Moderated Windows 11 comparison chart to Windows 10
I'm dealing with the differences as I hit them, and there haven't been a ton of those to deal with.
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Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13)
It’s not lack of contact with the world off campus that leads to the liberal views common in academia — it’s being trained to think critically and practicing this craft daily as we look at the world around us that makes us the libs conservatives so dislike.
~ Eliot A. Brenowitz, Seattle; New York Times, Letters, Tales of Town and Gown: Is the Campus Isolated?, August 20, 2022
I agree for the most part and am using Windows 11 on one computer and Windows 10 on another. I am a fan of File explorer and find no issue with either 10 or 11 and actually lean toward 11 version.
My biggest problem with Win 11 is in settings. I find it is taking me much longer to accomplish most settings in Win 11. I know that over time I will adjust but I believe they have removed much of the accessibility for a screen reader user here to make it more attractive to a sighted user with their effort to “un-clutter” the design.
Marie
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Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2023 8:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows 11 comparison chart to Windows 10
I've not seen such. For the most part, there is no difference. However, there are a number of changes that do exist where it's really easier to discuss what it is you're trying to do that you cannot (yet) do. File Explorer is a bit of
a PITA because some of the old ribbon shortcuts are no longer active under the default Windows 11 setup. But even then what any given individual might miss is directly dependent on what they have routinely used in the past. There are also, sometimes, ways
to get those techniques functioning again by tweaking settings.
I'm dealing with the differences as I hit them, and there haven't been a ton of those to deal with.
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Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13)
It’s not lack of contact with the world off campus that leads to the liberal views common in academia — it’s being trained to think critically and practicing this craft daily as we look at the world around us that makes us the libs conservatives so dislike.
~ Eliot A. Brenowitz, Seattle; New York Times, Letters, Tales of Town and Gown: Is the Campus Isolated?, August 20, 2022
I believe they have removed much of the accessibility for a screen reader user here to make it more attractive to a sighted user with their effort to “un-clutter” the design.-
I can tell you as a sighted user that "un-cluttering" is not what I'd describe as having happened in Settings. You actually have more direct access to more things at each main settings pane than you used to.
In the case of settings on either Windows 10 or 11, I tend to use the search function constantly to get me straight to what I want to tweak if I don't have it "hard wired into my fingers" where it is already.
I'd be curious to hear about how you're handling the differences between File Explorer in Windows 10 versus Windows 11 provided you do not have any software installed under Win11 that changes the presentation back to the Windows 10 ribbon setup. A tech on a forum I frequent posted a link to the following utility, StartAllBack, which is the best thing I've ever seen in allowing a user to change the whole UI, or just specific parts of it, to Win10 style or Win7 style under Windows 11.
I normally hate these skinning utilities, and still do as a general position, but this one is so slick, allows instant temporary or permanent changes to the Win11 UI, and is cheap ($4.99 US for one machine, $8.99 for two, $11.99 for three) that it's well worth it for anyone who needs or wants it. Based on my brief testing its UI is entirely accessible with NVDA, which means it's almost certain to be with JAWS, too.
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Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13)
It’s not lack of contact with the world off campus that leads to the liberal views common in academia — it’s being trained to think critically and practicing this craft daily as we look at the world around us that makes us the libs conservatives so dislike.
~ Eliot A. Brenowitz, Seattle; New York Times, Letters, Tales of Town and Gown: Is the Campus Isolated?, August 20, 2022
I personally just don’t see all that many changes in File Explorer and I like having the One Drive at the top with the Home option. I then have my normal often-used folders beneath pinned to make access quick such as:
Documents, downloads, music and drop box.
When I need to interact with any of the drives I simply press the letter T until reaching “This Pc”.
I am a self-taught computer user so it is sometimes difficult for me to explain how I accomplish certain tasks. You may be absolutely right about the settings and I also use the search feature almost every time I go to setting. There is perhaps too much there like trying to set up a default media player. It used to be so very simple and straight forward, whereas there are too many choices for some of us who are not power users. LOL! As I am not an audiophile, I don’t need to set a different default for each extension type.
I guess the plethora of choices is a bit daunting.
I will check out the
Utility you talk about, but I have never been one to circumvent the features in the OS.
Marie
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2023 8:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows 11 comparison chart to Windows 10
On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 11:22 AM, Marie Nelson wrote:
I believe they have removed much of the accessibility for a screen reader user here to make it more attractive to a sighted user with their effort to “un-clutter” the design.
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I can tell you as a sighted user that "un-cluttering" is not what I'd describe as having happened in Settings. You actually have more direct access to more things at each main settings pane than you used to.
In the case of settings on either Windows 10 or 11, I tend to use the search function constantly to get me straight to what I want to tweak if I don't have it "hard wired into my fingers" where it is already.
I'd be curious to hear about how you're handling the differences between File Explorer in Windows 10 versus Windows 11 provided you do not have any software installed under Win11 that changes the presentation back to the Windows 10 ribbon setup. A tech on
a forum I frequent posted a link to the following utility,
StartAllBack, which is the best thing I've ever seen in allowing a user to change the whole UI, or just specific parts of it, to Win10 style or Win7 style under Windows 11.
I normally hate these skinning utilities, and still do as a general position, but this one is so slick, allows instant temporary or permanent changes to the Win11 UI, and is cheap ($4.99 US for one machine, $8.99 for two, $11.99 for three) that it's well worth
it for anyone who needs or wants it. Based on my brief testing its UI is entirely accessible with NVDA, which means it's almost certain to be with JAWS, too.
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Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13)
It’s not lack of contact with the world off campus that leads to the liberal views common in academia — it’s being trained to think critically and practicing this craft daily as we look at the world around us that makes us the libs conservatives so dislike.
~ Eliot A. Brenowitz, Seattle; New York Times, Letters, Tales of Town and Gown: Is the Campus Isolated?, August 20, 2022
hi Brian i just got my win 11 acer laptop last december.
And i remember setting up vile explore to open to my PC the way i liked it in win 10.
Now for some reason i can't get it to have all my folders plus the c drive telling me how much space i have on the c drive.
If i change it back to quick access i get the c drive but not my documents.
I have reset the folders options.
I just cannot work out how to have all the folders that are in win 10 and the c drive of how much space i have used.
regards Michael.
On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 11:22 AM, Marie Nelson wrote:
I believe they have removed much of the accessibility for a screen reader user here to make it more attractive to a sighted user with their effort to “un-clutter” the design.-
I can tell you as a sighted user that "un-cluttering" is not what I'd describe as having happened in Settings. You actually have more direct access to more things at each main settings pane than you used to.
In the case of settings on either Windows 10 or 11, I tend to use the search function constantly to get me straight to what I want to tweak if I don't have it "hard wired into my fingers" where it is already.
I'd be curious to hear about how you're handling the differences between File Explorer in Windows 10 versus Windows 11 provided you do not have any software installed under Win11 that changes the presentation back to the Windows 10 ribbon setup. A tech on a forum I frequent posted a link to the following utility, StartAllBack, which is the best thing I've ever seen in allowing a user to change the whole UI, or just specific parts of it, to Win10 style or Win7 style under Windows 11.
I normally hate these skinning utilities, and still do as a general position, but this one is so slick, allows instant temporary or permanent changes to the Win11 UI, and is cheap ($4.99 US for one machine, $8.99 for two, $11.99 for three) that it's well worth it for anyone who needs or wants it. Based on my brief testing its UI is entirely accessible with NVDA, which means it's almost certain to be with JAWS, too.
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Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13)
It’s not lack of contact with the world off campus that leads to the liberal views common in academia — it’s being trained to think critically and practicing this craft daily as we look at the world around us that makes us the libs conservatives so dislike.
~ Eliot A. Brenowitz, Seattle; New York Times, Letters, Tales of Town and Gown: Is the Campus Isolated?, August 20, 2022