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Mario #83258 an acquaintance is using Jarte with JAWS 2020 on Windows 10, and when he types, the letters are announced, but when he attempts to review what he wrote, JAWS just says nothing. I asked him to do a few things, and discovered pressing insert+homerow 5 announces black on black. his wife who is sighted says that the lettering is black on a white background, but the untyped area is blackish blue. shouldn't the untyped background be white? what needs to be done in order to have JAWS read what has been typed if he needs to check what he typed or navigate to a misspelling to correct? might there be some settings other than fiddling with the color settings?
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David Griffith #83262 I know that this is not particularly useful for a Jaws list but I personally found that Jarte has become unusable with Jaws. However it still works perfectly well with NVDA as a workaround. David Griffith. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 toggle quoted messageShow quoted text From: Mario Sent: 01 November 2020 01:21 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: using Jarte with JAWS an acquaintance is using Jarte with JAWS 2020 on Windows 10, and when he types, the letters are announced, but when he attempts to review what he wrote, JAWS just says nothing. I asked him to do a few things, and discovered pressing insert+homerow 5 announces black on black. his wife who is sighted says that the lettering is black on a white background, but the untyped area is blackish blue. shouldn't the untyped background be white? what needs to be done in order to have JAWS read what has been typed if he needs to check what he typed or navigate to a misspelling to correct? might there be some settings other than fiddling with the color settings?
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Mike B #83265 Hi David, What's the work around for NVDA? Someone else is having problems with Jaws & NVDA running Windows 10 with J2020. Take care and stay safe. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Rams! Main's Law: For every action there is an equal and opposite government program. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: David Griffith To: main@jfw.groups.io Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2020 5:35 AM Subject: Re: using Jarte with JAWS I know that this is not particularly useful for a Jaws list but I personally found that Jarte has become unusable with Jaws. However it still works perfectly well with NVDA as a workaround. David Griffith. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Mario Sent: 01 November 2020 01:21 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: using Jarte with JAWS an acquaintance is using Jarte with JAWS 2020 on Windows 10, and when he types, the letters are announced, but when he attempts to review what he wrote, JAWS just says nothing. I asked him to do a few things, and discovered pressing insert+homerow 5 announces black on black. his wife who is sighted says that the lettering is black on a white background, but the untyped area is blackish blue. shouldn't the untyped background be white? what needs to be done in order to have JAWS read what has been typed if he needs to check what he typed or navigate to a misspelling to correct? might there be some settings other than fiddling with the color settings?
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David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> #83266 Hello. I also ran into the problem where JAWS seemed to no longer support cursor navigation in Jarte. You will be happy to know that there is a very simple fix for this problem which is achieved by toggling the state of enhanced edit support within the JAWS settings center. See my blog post for detailed instructions for those who are not familiar with adjusting options within Settings Center. However, going into Settings Center and toggling Enhanced Edit support will definitely fix the problem. David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 WWW.DavidGoldfield.org On 11/1/2020 11:27 AM, Mike B wrote: toggle quoted messageShow quoted text Hi David, What's the work around for NVDA? Someone else is having problems with Jaws & NVDA running Windows 10 with J2020. Take care and stay safe. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Rams! Main's Law: For every action there is an equal and opposite government program. ----- Original Message ----- From: David Griffith To: main@jfw.groups.io Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2020 5:35 AM Subject: Re: using Jarte with JAWS I know that this is not particularly useful for a Jaws list but I personally found that Jarte has become unusable with Jaws. However it still works perfectly well with NVDA as a workaround. David Griffith. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Mario Sent: 01 November 2020 01:21 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: using Jarte with JAWS an acquaintance is using Jarte with JAWS 2020 on Windows 10, and when he types, the letters are announced, but when he attempts to review what he wrote, JAWS just says nothing. I asked him to do a few things, and discovered pressing insert+homerow 5 announces black on black. his wife who is sighted says that the lettering is black on a white background, but the untyped area is blackish blue. shouldn't the untyped background be white? what needs to be done in order to have JAWS read what has been typed if he needs to check what he typed or navigate to a misspelling to correct? might there be some settings other than fiddling with the color settings?
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David Griffith #83268 No workaround needed for NVDA – it just works perfectly with Jarte as far as I can tell from my limited usage. I just went to type a sample document and all was fine. What I meant was that using NVDA was the workaround rather than trying to make Jaws work with Jarte properly. David Griffith Sent from Mail for Windows 10 toggle quoted messageShow quoted text From: Mike B Sent: 01 November 2020 16:27 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: using Jarte with JAWS Hi David, What's the work around for NVDA? Someone else is having problems with Jaws & NVDA running Windows 10 with J2020. Take care and stay safe. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Rams! Main's Law: For every action there is an equal and opposite government program. ----- Original Message ----- From: David Griffith To: main@jfw.groups.io Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2020 5:35 AM Subject: Re: using Jarte with JAWS I know that this is not particularly useful for a Jaws list but I personally found that Jarte has become unusable with Jaws. However it still works perfectly well with NVDA as a workaround. David Griffith. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Mario Sent: 01 November 2020 01:21 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: using Jarte with JAWS an acquaintance is using Jarte with JAWS 2020 on Windows 10, and when he types, the letters are announced, but when he attempts to review what he wrote, JAWS just says nothing. I asked him to do a few things, and discovered pressing insert+homerow 5 announces black on black. his wife who is sighted says that the lettering is black on a white background, but the untyped area is blackish blue. shouldn't the untyped background be white? what needs to be done in order to have JAWS read what has been typed if he needs to check what he typed or navigate to a misspelling to correct? might there be some settings other than fiddling with the color settings?
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David Griffith #83271 Many thanks for this David David G. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 toggle quoted messageShow quoted text From: D avid Goldfield Sent: 01 November 2020 16:35 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: using Jarte with JAWS Hello. I also ran into the problem where JAWS seemed to no longer support cursor navigation in Jarte. You will be happy to know that there is a very simple fix for this problem which is achieved by toggling the state of enhanced edit support within the JAWS settings center. See my blog post for detailed instructions for those who are not familiar with adjusting options within Settings Center. However, going into Settings Center and toggling Enhanced Edit support will definitely fix the problem. David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 WWW.DavidGoldfield.org On 11/1/2020 11:27 AM, Mike B wrote: Hi David, What's the work around for NVDA? Someone else is having problems with Jaws & NVDA running Windows 10 with J2020. Take care and stay safe. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Rams! Main's Law: For every action there is an equal and opposite government program. ----- Original Message ----- From: David Griffith To: main@jfw.groups.io Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2020 5:35 AM Subject: Re: using Jarte with JAWS I know that this is not particularly useful for a Jaws list but I personally found that Jarte has become unusable with Jaws. However it still works perfectly well with NVDA as a workaround. David Griffith. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Mario Sent: 01 November 2020 01:21 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: using Jarte with JAWS an acquaintance is using Jarte with JAWS 2020 on Windows 10, and when he types, the letters are announced, but when he attempts to review what he wrote, JAWS just says nothing. I asked him to do a few things, and discovered pressing insert+homerow 5 announces black on black. his wife who is sighted says that the lettering is black on a white background, but the untyped area is blackish blue. shouldn't the untyped background be white? what needs to be done in order to have JAWS read what has been typed if he needs to check what he typed or navigate to a misspelling to correct? might there be some settings other than fiddling with the color settings?
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Mario #83275 David, thanks for your help, it works now. BTW, got any other tips for using Jarte with JAWS and/(or NVDA)? toggle quoted messageShow quoted text -------- Original Message -------- From: David Goldfield [mailto:david.goldfield@outlook.com] To: main@jfw.groups.io Date: Sunday, November 1, 2020, 11:35 AM Subject: using Jarte with JAWS Hello. I also ran into the problem where JAWS seemed to no longer support cursor navigation in Jarte. You will be happy to know that there is a very simple fix for this problem which is achieved by toggling the state of enhanced edit support within the JAWS settings center. See my blog post <https://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2020/10/08/jaws-tip-is-jaws-not-speaking-as-you-move-your-cursor-try-toggling-enhanced-edit-support/>for detailed instructions for those who are not familiar with adjusting options within Settings Center. However, going into Settings Center and toggling Enhanced Edit support will definitely fix the problem. David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 WWW.DavidGoldfield.org On 11/1/2020 11:27 AM, Mike B wrote: Hi David, What's the work around for NVDA? Someone else is having problems with Jaws & NVDA running Windows 10 with J2020. Take care and stay safe. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Rams! Main's Law: For every action there is an equal and opposite government program. ----- Original Message ----- From: David Griffith <mailto:daj.griffith@gmail.com> To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2020 5:35 AM Subject: Re: using Jarte with JAWS I know that this is not particularly useful for a Jaws list but I personally found that Jarte has become unusable with Jaws. However it still works perfectly well with NVDA as a workaround. David Griffith. Sent from Mail <https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.microsoft.com%2Ffwlink%2F%3FLinkId%3D550986&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1ba1c54c62954079648b08d87e831640%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637398448758656482%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=iqYJ0PaGy0V%2BqYrOetwf3BJXgOEZ2FJSs9fopssRBTc%3D&reserved=0> for Windows 10 From: Mario <mailto:mrb620@hotmail.com> Sent: 01 November 2020 01:21 To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: using Jarte with JAWS an acquaintance is using Jarte with JAWS 2020 on Windows 10, and when he types, the letters are announced, but when he attempts to review what he wrote, JAWS just says nothing. I asked him to do a few things, and discovered pressing insert+homerow 5 announces black on black. his wife who is sighted says that the lettering is black on a white background, but the untyped area is blackish blue. shouldn't the untyped background be white? what needs to be done in order to have JAWS read what has been typed if he needs to check what he typed or navigate to a misspelling to correct? might there be some settings other than fiddling with the color settings?
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