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Moderated Trouble Reading By Paragraph In Emails
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K0LNY
Hi,
Using Jaws 2020, Windows 7, and Outlook Express. I'm guessing the last time I was able to read by paragraph in my outlook express messages with Jaws was 2019 version. When I get NFB TV listings for the day, it uses HTML commands, and I jump from channel to channel with #3, for heading level 3. It always worked a long time back to move from episode to episode for the 24 hour period by doing control down arrow. At some point in the past, it quit working, and in retrospect, I'm guessing it was when I started using 2020. Today I had loaded NVDA for another reason, and hadn't switched back to Jaws, and I checked the TV guide to see what other episodes were on tonight, and I tried the control down arrow, and it worked like Jaws used to. With 2020, when I do control down arrow under a channel, it skips a channel or two and starts reading an episode in another channel further down. I had just accepted that something had changed in Jaws and lived with it, but seeing that it still works properly in NVDA, I'm wondering what I might change in Jaws to make it work right. Jaws still moves by heading number in eMails, just not by paragraph. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. Glenn |
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Mike B.
Hi Glenn,
J2020 will navigate by paragraph but, this is only
for the emails I've created myself and it might be the way the email is
formatted. If you turn on Jaws help, Insert + 1, on the number row the
control + down arrow still reports moves to the next paragraph. But, I
don't know how else the control + down arrow will work except for the formatting
of the message. There's not a setting that I'm aware of that can change
this behavior unless the speech and sound scheme is changed, and this is only a
guess.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Note from a creditor: Dear Sir, Your account has been on our books for over a year. We want to remind you that we have now carried you longer than your mother did!" ----- Original Message -----
From: K0LNY
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 7:29 PM
Subject: Trouble Reading By Paragraph In Emails Using Jaws 2020, Windows 7, and Outlook Express. I'm guessing the last time I was able to read by paragraph in my outlook express messages with Jaws was 2019 version. When I get NFB TV listings for the day, it uses HTML commands, and I jump from channel to channel with #3, for heading level 3. It always worked a long time back to move from episode to episode for the 24 hour period by doing control down arrow. At some point in the past, it quit working, and in retrospect, I'm guessing it was when I started using 2020. Today I had loaded NVDA for another reason, and hadn't switched back to Jaws, and I checked the TV guide to see what other episodes were on tonight, and I tried the control down arrow, and it worked like Jaws used to. With 2020, when I do control down arrow under a channel, it skips a channel or two and starts reading an episode in another channel further down. I had just accepted that something had changed in Jaws and lived with it, but seeing that it still works properly in NVDA, I'm wondering what I might change in Jaws to make it work right. Jaws still moves by heading number in eMails, just not by paragraph. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. Glenn |
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K0LNY
Thanks Mike,
Since it works as expected with NVDA, then I don't
think it's the formatting.
I really don't want to install 2019 into this
windows install just to test it.
Glenn ----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: Trouble Reading By Paragraph In Emails Hi Glenn,
J2020 will navigate by paragraph but, this is only
for the emails I've created myself and it might be the way the email is
formatted. If you turn on Jaws help, Insert + 1, on the number row the
control + down arrow still reports moves to the next paragraph. But, I
don't know how else the control + down arrow will work except for the formatting
of the message. There's not a setting that I'm aware of that can change
this behavior unless the speech and sound scheme is changed, and this is only a
guess.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
Note from a creditor: Dear Sir, Your account has been on our books for over a year. We want to remind you that we have now carried you longer than your mother did!" ----- Original Message -----
From: K0LNY
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 7:29 PM
Subject: Trouble Reading By Paragraph In Emails Using Jaws 2020, Windows 7, and Outlook Express. I'm guessing the last time I was able to read by paragraph in my outlook express messages with Jaws was 2019 version. When I get NFB TV listings for the day, it uses HTML commands, and I jump from channel to channel with #3, for heading level 3. It always worked a long time back to move from episode to episode for the 24 hour period by doing control down arrow. At some point in the past, it quit working, and in retrospect, I'm guessing it was when I started using 2020. Today I had loaded NVDA for another reason, and hadn't switched back to Jaws, and I checked the TV guide to see what other episodes were on tonight, and I tried the control down arrow, and it worked like Jaws used to. With 2020, when I do control down arrow under a channel, it skips a channel or two and starts reading an episode in another channel further down. I had just accepted that something had changed in Jaws and lived with it, but seeing that it still works properly in NVDA, I'm wondering what I might change in Jaws to make it work right. Jaws still moves by heading number in eMails, just not by paragraph. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. Glenn |
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Mike B.
Glenn,
One thing you could try is to install J16 on your
computer and use the J16 version when using email. J16 is the last Jaws
version to have the Outlook Express scripts.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Note from a creditor: Dear Sir, Your account has been on our books for over a year. We want to remind you that we have now carried you longer than your mother did!" ----- Original Message -----
From: K0LNY
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 7:29 PM
Subject: Trouble Reading By Paragraph In Emails Using Jaws 2020, Windows 7, and Outlook Express. I'm guessing the last time I was able to read by paragraph in my outlook express messages with Jaws was 2019 version. When I get NFB TV listings for the day, it uses HTML commands, and I jump from channel to channel with #3, for heading level 3. It always worked a long time back to move from episode to episode for the 24 hour period by doing control down arrow. At some point in the past, it quit working, and in retrospect, I'm guessing it was when I started using 2020. Today I had loaded NVDA for another reason, and hadn't switched back to Jaws, and I checked the TV guide to see what other episodes were on tonight, and I tried the control down arrow, and it worked like Jaws used to. With 2020, when I do control down arrow under a channel, it skips a channel or two and starts reading an episode in another channel further down. I had just accepted that something had changed in Jaws and lived with it, but seeing that it still works properly in NVDA, I'm wondering what I might change in Jaws to make it work right. Jaws still moves by heading number in eMails, just not by paragraph. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. Glenn |
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K0LNY
Hi Mike,
Using the OE from the white stick site, I haven't
needed any scripts.
This is the same OE I have used for a long
time.
I did use Jaws 16 on another windows 7, for my old
MS Office, but I switched to using NVDA for that old Office.
Glenn ----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: Trouble Reading By Paragraph In Emails Glenn,
One thing you could try is to install J16 on your
computer and use the J16 version when using email. J16 is the last Jaws
version to have the Outlook Express scripts.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
Note from a creditor: Dear Sir, Your account has been on our books for over a year. We want to remind you that we have now carried you longer than your mother did!" ----- Original Message -----
From: K0LNY
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 7:29 PM
Subject: Trouble Reading By Paragraph In Emails Using Jaws 2020, Windows 7, and Outlook Express. I'm guessing the last time I was able to read by paragraph in my outlook express messages with Jaws was 2019 version. When I get NFB TV listings for the day, it uses HTML commands, and I jump from channel to channel with #3, for heading level 3. It always worked a long time back to move from episode to episode for the 24 hour period by doing control down arrow. At some point in the past, it quit working, and in retrospect, I'm guessing it was when I started using 2020. Today I had loaded NVDA for another reason, and hadn't switched back to Jaws, and I checked the TV guide to see what other episodes were on tonight, and I tried the control down arrow, and it worked like Jaws used to. With 2020, when I do control down arrow under a channel, it skips a channel or two and starts reading an episode in another channel further down. I had just accepted that something had changed in Jaws and lived with it, but seeing that it still works properly in NVDA, I'm wondering what I might change in Jaws to make it work right. Jaws still moves by heading number in eMails, just not by paragraph. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. Glenn |
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Mike Pietruk
Glenn
If you dug out that script from the j16 settings folder, perhaps it might work in j23! Might be worth a shot! |
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