moderated Specifying a voice for say all?


Gene Warner
 

Hi everyone!

I was just wondering if it is possible to have the Say All feature use a different voice than the one I use as JAWS' default voice which I have set to Eloquence.

Thanks!
Gene...


Soronel Haetir
 

I believe this feature used to be present but was removed long ago (as
in around 2010).

On 8/26/22, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:
Hi everyone!

I was just wondering if it is possible to have the Say All feature use a
different voice than the one I use as JAWS' default voice which I have
set to Eloquence.

Thanks!
Gene...





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Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@...


Gene Warner
 

I wonder why they would do that? Eloquence is fine for doing day to day tasks, but when I'm going to have JAWS' read something that might be some what long, such as the monthly newsletter my financial advisor send out, I'd like to be able to listen to it with a more human sounding voice.

Gene...


8/26/2022 7:23 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:

I believe this feature used to be present but was removed long ago (as
in around 2010).
On 8/26/22, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:
Hi everyone!

I was just wondering if it is possible to have the Say All feature use a
different voice than the one I use as JAWS' default voice which I have
set to Eloquence.

Thanks!
Gene...






leonard morris
 

Can the invisible cursor read the entire document by routing the cursor to the beginning I never tried this I was just wondering. Maybe Here you can change the voice because I have my invisible cursor change to a female voice and my PC cursor to Tom eloquence I think he’s called.Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.

On Aug 26, 2022, at 7:34 PM, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:

I wonder why they would do that? Eloquence is fine for doing day to day tasks, but when I'm going to have JAWS' read something that might be some what long, such as the monthly newsletter my financial advisor send out, I'd like to be able to listen to it with a more human sounding voice.

Gene...


8/26/2022 7:23 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
I believe this feature used to be present but was removed long ago (as
in around 2010).
On 8/26/22, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:
Hi everyone!

I was just wondering if it is possible to have the Say All feature use a
different voice than the one I use as JAWS' default voice which I have
set to Eloquence.

Thanks!
Gene...









Gene Warner
 

I don't necessarily need it to always start at the beginning of the document, starting from where my cursor is works fine for me. If say all uses the invisible cursor, how do you change the voice the invisible cursor uses?

Thanks!
Gene...

On 8/27/2022 1:28 AM, leonard morris wrote:
Can the invisible cursor read the entire document by routing the cursor to the beginning I never tried this I was just wondering. Maybe Here you can change the voice because I have my invisible cursor change to a female voice and my PC cursor to Tom eloquence I think he’s called.Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.

On Aug 26, 2022, at 7:34 PM, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:

I wonder why they would do that? Eloquence is fine for doing day to day tasks, but when I'm going to have JAWS' read something that might be some what long, such as the monthly newsletter my financial advisor send out, I'd like to be able to listen to it with a more human sounding voice.

Gene...


8/26/2022 7:23 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
I believe this feature used to be present but was removed long ago (as
in around 2010).
On 8/26/22, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:
Hi everyone!

I was just wondering if it is possible to have the Say All feature use a
different voice than the one I use as JAWS' default voice which I have
set to Eloquence.

Thanks!
Gene...









Soronel Haetir
 

I do something like what you are after by having a voice profile that
uses Eloquence as my normal default but then having another that uses
vocalizer for programs that I am actually likely to listen to long
passages. (I.E Firefox, Word, wordpad, edsharp).

I have eloquence set so fast that if I actually try using it for say
all after a bit its buffering is complete and the speed kicks up
another notch and I can no longer understand it.

On 8/27/22, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:
I don't necessarily need it to always start at the beginning of the
document, starting from where my cursor is works fine for me. If say all
uses the invisible cursor, how do you change the voice the invisible
cursor uses?

Thanks!
Gene...


On 8/27/2022 1:28 AM, leonard morris wrote:
Can the invisible cursor read the entire document by routing the cursor to
the beginning I never tried this I was just wondering. Maybe Here you can
change the voice because I have my invisible cursor change to a female
voice and my PC cursor to Tom eloquence I think he’s called.Every country
has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in
determining how its people Live, work, and play.

On Aug 26, 2022, at 7:34 PM, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:

I wonder why they would do that? Eloquence is fine for doing day to day
tasks, but when I'm going to have JAWS' read something that might be some
what long, such as the monthly newsletter my financial advisor send out,
I'd like to be able to listen to it with a more human sounding voice.

Gene...


8/26/2022 7:23 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
I believe this feature used to be present but was removed long ago (as
in around 2010).
On 8/26/22, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:
Hi everyone!

I was just wondering if it is possible to have the Say All feature use
a
different voice than the one I use as JAWS' default voice which I have
set to Eloquence.

Thanks!
Gene...















--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@...


Steve Nutt
 

Check out Voice Adjustment, set context to Say All where it says All Contexts, then make your changes.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: 27 August 2022 13:44
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

I don't necessarily need it to always start at the beginning of the document, starting from where my cursor is works fine for me. If say all uses the invisible cursor, how do you change the voice the invisible cursor uses?

Thanks!
Gene...


On 8/27/2022 1:28 AM, leonard morris wrote:
Can the invisible cursor read the entire document by routing the cursor to the beginning I never tried this I was just wondering. Maybe Here you can change the voice because I have my invisible cursor change to a female voice and my PC cursor to Tom eloquence I think he’s called.Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.

On Aug 26, 2022, at 7:34 PM, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:

I wonder why they would do that? Eloquence is fine for doing day to day tasks, but when I'm going to have JAWS' read something that might be some what long, such as the monthly newsletter my financial advisor send out, I'd like to be able to listen to it with a more human sounding voice.

Gene...


8/26/2022 7:23 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
I believe this feature used to be present but was removed long ago
(as in around 2010).
On 8/26/22, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:
Hi everyone!

I was just wondering if it is possible to have the Say All feature
use a different voice than the one I use as JAWS' default voice
which I have set to Eloquence.

Thanks!
Gene...












Gene Warner
 

Would you explain in more detail exactly where I choose "Say All". I have the context set to "All contexts" but no where is there anything that lets me choose "Say All".

Gene...

On 8/30/2022 3:57 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Check out Voice Adjustment, set context to Say All where it says All Contexts, then make your changes.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: 27 August 2022 13:44
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?
I don't necessarily need it to always start at the beginning of the document, starting from where my cursor is works fine for me. If say all uses the invisible cursor, how do you change the voice the invisible cursor uses?
Thanks!
Gene...
On 8/27/2022 1:28 AM, leonard morris wrote:
Can the invisible cursor read the entire document by routing the cursor to the beginning I never tried this I was just wondering. Maybe Here you can change the voice because I have my invisible cursor change to a female voice and my PC cursor to Tom eloquence I think he’s called.Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.

On Aug 26, 2022, at 7:34 PM, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:

I wonder why they would do that? Eloquence is fine for doing day to day tasks, but when I'm going to have JAWS' read something that might be some what long, such as the monthly newsletter my financial advisor send out, I'd like to be able to listen to it with a more human sounding voice.

Gene...


8/26/2022 7:23 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
I believe this feature used to be present but was removed long ago
(as in around 2010).
On 8/26/22, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:
Hi everyone!

I was just wondering if it is possible to have the Say All feature
use a different voice than the one I use as JAWS' default voice
which I have set to Eloquence.

Thanks!
Gene...












Steve Nutt
 

Sorry Jean, it's not there, I thought it was.

So you'd have to create a new voice profile and have it trigger on Say All.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: 30 August 2022 13:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

Would you explain in more detail exactly where I choose "Say All". I have the context set to "All contexts" but no where is there anything that lets me choose "Say All".

Gene...


On 8/30/2022 3:57 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Check out Voice Adjustment, set context to Say All where it says All Contexts, then make your changes.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: 27 August 2022 13:44
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

I don't necessarily need it to always start at the beginning of the document, starting from where my cursor is works fine for me. If say all uses the invisible cursor, how do you change the voice the invisible cursor uses?

Thanks!
Gene...


On 8/27/2022 1:28 AM, leonard morris wrote:
Can the invisible cursor read the entire document by routing the cursor to the beginning I never tried this I was just wondering. Maybe Here you can change the voice because I have my invisible cursor change to a female voice and my PC cursor to Tom eloquence I think he’s called.Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.

On Aug 26, 2022, at 7:34 PM, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:

I wonder why they would do that? Eloquence is fine for doing day to day tasks, but when I'm going to have JAWS' read something that might be some what long, such as the monthly newsletter my financial advisor send out, I'd like to be able to listen to it with a more human sounding voice.

Gene...


8/26/2022 7:23 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
I believe this feature used to be present but was removed long ago
(as in around 2010).
On 8/26/22, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:
Hi everyone!

I was just wondering if it is possible to have the Say All feature
use a different voice than the one I use as JAWS' default voice
which I have set to Eloquence.

Thanks!
Gene...






















Steve Nutt
 

Hi again Jean,

Download this training module regarding voice profiles, and there is a lot of detail in there, including how to have a different voice for Say All:-

https://support.freedomscientific.com/content/downloads/daisy/VoiceProfiles.exe

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 30 August 2022 15:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

Sorry Jean, it's not there, I thought it was.

So you'd have to create a new voice profile and have it trigger on Say All.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: 30 August 2022 13:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

Would you explain in more detail exactly where I choose "Say All". I have the context set to "All contexts" but no where is there anything that lets me choose "Say All".

Gene...


On 8/30/2022 3:57 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Check out Voice Adjustment, set context to Say All where it says All Contexts, then make your changes.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: 27 August 2022 13:44
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

I don't necessarily need it to always start at the beginning of the document, starting from where my cursor is works fine for me. If say all uses the invisible cursor, how do you change the voice the invisible cursor uses?

Thanks!
Gene...


On 8/27/2022 1:28 AM, leonard morris wrote:
Can the invisible cursor read the entire document by routing the cursor to the beginning I never tried this I was just wondering. Maybe Here you can change the voice because I have my invisible cursor change to a female voice and my PC cursor to Tom eloquence I think he’s called.Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.

On Aug 26, 2022, at 7:34 PM, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:

I wonder why they would do that? Eloquence is fine for doing day to day tasks, but when I'm going to have JAWS' read something that might be some what long, such as the monthly newsletter my financial advisor send out, I'd like to be able to listen to it with a more human sounding voice.

Gene...


8/26/2022 7:23 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
I believe this feature used to be present but was removed long ago
(as in around 2010).
On 8/26/22, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:
Hi everyone!

I was just wondering if it is possible to have the Say All feature
use a different voice than the one I use as JAWS' default voice
which I have set to Eloquence.

Thanks!
Gene...






















Gene Warner
 

I guess Vispero thinks that JAWS users have some mystical power of mind reading. Not one single word about how I'm supposed to access this training onece it is installed.

I always thought that Vispero was clueless, now I have proof.

Gene...

On 8/30/2022 11:05 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi again Jean,
Download this training module regarding voice profiles, and there is a lot of detail in there, including how to have a different voice for Say All:-
https://support.freedomscientific.com/content/downloads/daisy/VoiceProfiles.exe
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 30 August 2022 15:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?
Sorry Jean, it's not there, I thought it was.
So you'd have to create a new voice profile and have it trigger on Say All.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: 30 August 2022 13:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?
Would you explain in more detail exactly where I choose "Say All". I have the context set to "All contexts" but no where is there anything that lets me choose "Say All".
Gene...
On 8/30/2022 3:57 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Check out Voice Adjustment, set context to Say All where it says All Contexts, then make your changes.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: 27 August 2022 13:44
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

I don't necessarily need it to always start at the beginning of the document, starting from where my cursor is works fine for me. If say all uses the invisible cursor, how do you change the voice the invisible cursor uses?

Thanks!
Gene...


On 8/27/2022 1:28 AM, leonard morris wrote:
Can the invisible cursor read the entire document by routing the cursor to the beginning I never tried this I was just wondering. Maybe Here you can change the voice because I have my invisible cursor change to a female voice and my PC cursor to Tom eloquence I think he’s called.Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.

On Aug 26, 2022, at 7:34 PM, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:

I wonder why they would do that? Eloquence is fine for doing day to day tasks, but when I'm going to have JAWS' read something that might be some what long, such as the monthly newsletter my financial advisor send out, I'd like to be able to listen to it with a more human sounding voice.

Gene...


8/26/2022 7:23 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
I believe this feature used to be present but was removed long ago
(as in around 2010).
On 8/26/22, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:
Hi everyone!

I was just wondering if it is possible to have the Say All feature
use a different voice than the one I use as JAWS' default voice
which I have set to Eloquence.

Thanks!
Gene...






















JM Casey
 

The url says it's in the daisy folder on the Freedom Scientific web tree, and they look like daisy files. Not sure what the msi installer is for though. You can play these with the ez-reader or whatever they call it that comes bundled with the shark.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: August 30, 2022 06:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

I guess Vispero thinks that JAWS users have some mystical power of mind reading. Not one single word about how I'm supposed to access this training onece it is installed.

I always thought that Vispero was clueless, now I have proof.

Gene...


On 8/30/2022 11:05 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi again Jean,

Download this training module regarding voice profiles, and there is a
lot of detail in there, including how to have a different voice for
Say All:-

https://support.freedomscientific.com/content/downloads/daisy/VoicePro
files.exe

All the best

Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 30 August 2022 15:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

Sorry Jean, it's not there, I thought it was.

So you'd have to create a new voice profile and have it trigger on Say All.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: 30 August 2022 13:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

Would you explain in more detail exactly where I choose "Say All". I have the context set to "All contexts" but no where is there anything that lets me choose "Say All".

Gene...


On 8/30/2022 3:57 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Check out Voice Adjustment, set context to Say All where it says All Contexts, then make your changes.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Warner
Sent: 27 August 2022 13:44
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

I don't necessarily need it to always start at the beginning of the document, starting from where my cursor is works fine for me. If say all uses the invisible cursor, how do you change the voice the invisible cursor uses?

Thanks!
Gene...


On 8/27/2022 1:28 AM, leonard morris wrote:
Can the invisible cursor read the entire document by routing the cursor to the beginning I never tried this I was just wondering. Maybe Here you can change the voice because I have my invisible cursor change to a female voice and my PC cursor to Tom eloquence I think he’s called.Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.

On Aug 26, 2022, at 7:34 PM, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:

I wonder why they would do that? Eloquence is fine for doing day to day tasks, but when I'm going to have JAWS' read something that might be some what long, such as the monthly newsletter my financial advisor send out, I'd like to be able to listen to it with a more human sounding voice.

Gene...


8/26/2022 7:23 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
I believe this feature used to be present but was removed long ago
(as in around 2010).
On 8/26/22, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:
Hi everyone!

I was just wondering if it is possible to have the Say All
feature use a different voice than the one I use as JAWS' default
voice which I have set to Eloquence.

Thanks!
Gene...







































Adrian Spratt
 

Gene,

Here's how I accessed the files. When I clicked on the link provided by Steven,
https://support.freedomscientific.com/content/downloads/daisy/VoiceProfiles.exe
an executable file went to my downloads folder. I pressed enter, and soon I was told that files had been extracted.
I then opened the JAWS menu and went to "Help," and then "Training." After pressing enter on Training, this particular session appeared. I pressed enter again, and a DAISY file opened in FS Reader.

I agree, FS should have included some details about how to follow this sequence. However, it is tiresome when you lash out at Vispero. Pose the question, yes, and write to Vispero with a suggestion for how to clarify the procedure. However, I for one find your unrelentingly hostile attitude tiresome. I don't know where I'd be without JAWS.

--
My novel Caroline is now available in paperback, Kindle and audiobook versions and, for qualified readers in the US, at the National Library Service/BARD. Go to: https://adrianspratt.com/book/

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2022 6:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

I guess Vispero thinks that JAWS users have some mystical power of mind reading. Not one single word about how I'm supposed to access this training onece it is installed.

I always thought that Vispero was clueless, now I have proof.

Gene...


On 8/30/2022 11:05 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi again Jean,

Download this training module regarding voice profiles, and there is a
lot of detail in there, including how to have a different voice for
Say All:-

https://support.freedomscientific.com/content/downloads/daisy/VoicePro
files.exe

All the best

Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 30 August 2022 15:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

Sorry Jean, it's not there, I thought it was.

So you'd have to create a new voice profile and have it trigger on Say All.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: 30 August 2022 13:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

Would you explain in more detail exactly where I choose "Say All". I have the context set to "All contexts" but no where is there anything that lets me choose "Say All".

Gene...


On 8/30/2022 3:57 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Check out Voice Adjustment, set context to Say All where it says All Contexts, then make your changes.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Warner
Sent: 27 August 2022 13:44
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

I don't necessarily need it to always start at the beginning of the document, starting from where my cursor is works fine for me. If say all uses the invisible cursor, how do you change the voice the invisible cursor uses?

Thanks!
Gene...


On 8/27/2022 1:28 AM, leonard morris wrote:
Can the invisible cursor read the entire document by routing the cursor to the beginning I never tried this I was just wondering. Maybe Here you can change the voice because I have my invisible cursor change to a female voice and my PC cursor to Tom eloquence I think he’s called.Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.

On Aug 26, 2022, at 7:34 PM, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:

I wonder why they would do that? Eloquence is fine for doing day to day tasks, but when I'm going to have JAWS' read something that might be some what long, such as the monthly newsletter my financial advisor send out, I'd like to be able to listen to it with a more human sounding voice.

Gene...


8/26/2022 7:23 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
I believe this feature used to be present but was removed long ago
(as in around 2010).
On 8/26/22, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:
Hi everyone!

I was just wondering if it is possible to have the Say All
feature use a different voice than the one I use as JAWS' default
voice which I have set to Eloquence.

Thanks!
Gene...







































Gene Warner
 

I don't know what the web tree is or where it is.

I assume that the MSI installer is for FS Reader to either update it or to install it if it isn't on the machine you install the training files on.

I found out that the EXE is just a self extracting zip file, so I unpacked it with 7zip, so now I I'll know where to find them with FS Reader.

Gene...
I know

On 8/30/2022 6:18 PM, JM Casey wrote:
The url says it's in the daisy folder on the Freedom Scientific web tree, and they look like daisy files. Not sure what the msi installer is for though. You can play these with the ez-reader or whatever they call it that comes bundled with the shark.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: August 30, 2022 06:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?
I guess Vispero thinks that JAWS users have some mystical power of mind reading. Not one single word about how I'm supposed to access this training onece it is installed.
I always thought that Vispero was clueless, now I have proof.
Gene...
On 8/30/2022 11:05 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi again Jean,

Download this training module regarding voice profiles, and there is a
lot of detail in there, including how to have a different voice for
Say All:-

https://support.freedomscientific.com/content/downloads/daisy/VoicePro
files.exe

All the best

Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 30 August 2022 15:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

Sorry Jean, it's not there, I thought it was.

So you'd have to create a new voice profile and have it trigger on Say All.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: 30 August 2022 13:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

Would you explain in more detail exactly where I choose "Say All". I have the context set to "All contexts" but no where is there anything that lets me choose "Say All".

Gene...


On 8/30/2022 3:57 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Check out Voice Adjustment, set context to Say All where it says All Contexts, then make your changes.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Warner
Sent: 27 August 2022 13:44
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

I don't necessarily need it to always start at the beginning of the document, starting from where my cursor is works fine for me. If say all uses the invisible cursor, how do you change the voice the invisible cursor uses?

Thanks!
Gene...


On 8/27/2022 1:28 AM, leonard morris wrote:
Can the invisible cursor read the entire document by routing the cursor to the beginning I never tried this I was just wondering. Maybe Here you can change the voice because I have my invisible cursor change to a female voice and my PC cursor to Tom eloquence I think he’s called.Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.

On Aug 26, 2022, at 7:34 PM, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:

I wonder why they would do that? Eloquence is fine for doing day to day tasks, but when I'm going to have JAWS' read something that might be some what long, such as the monthly newsletter my financial advisor send out, I'd like to be able to listen to it with a more human sounding voice.

Gene...


8/26/2022 7:23 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
I believe this feature used to be present but was removed long ago
(as in around 2010).
On 8/26/22, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:
Hi everyone!

I was just wondering if it is possible to have the Say All
feature use a different voice than the one I use as JAWS' default
voice which I have set to Eloquence.

Thanks!
Gene...







































Gene Warner
 

I read your message up to the point where you lashed out at me for what you called my hostility towards Vispero.

I too wouldn't know what I'd be doing without JAWS, but that doesn't give Vispero a pass on their very poor tech support or their lack of providing even a simple line of instruction on how to use the training file. And from experience I have found that trying to talk to Vispero is comparable to talking to a brick wall.

And since turn about is fair play, I'll tell you what I get very tired of and that is people who use their email signature to spam everyone else with advertising as you do.

Gene...

On 8/30/2022 6:34 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
Gene,
Here's how I accessed the files. When I clicked on the link provided by Steven,
https://support.freedomscientific.com/content/downloads/daisy/VoiceProfiles.exe
an executable file went to my downloads folder. I pressed enter, and soon I was told that files had been extracted.
I then opened the JAWS menu and went to "Help," and then "Training." After pressing enter on Training, this particular session appeared. I pressed enter again, and a DAISY file opened in FS Reader.
I agree, FS should have included some details about how to follow this sequence. However, it is tiresome when you lash out at Vispero. Pose the question, yes, and write to Vispero with a suggestion for how to clarify the procedure. However, I for one find your unrelentingly hostile attitude tiresome. I don't know where I'd be without JAWS.
--
My novel Caroline is now available in paperback, Kindle and audiobook versions and, for qualified readers in the US, at the National Library Service/BARD. Go to: https://adrianspratt.com/book/
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2022 6:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?
I guess Vispero thinks that JAWS users have some mystical power of mind reading. Not one single word about how I'm supposed to access this training onece it is installed.
I always thought that Vispero was clueless, now I have proof.
Gene...
On 8/30/2022 11:05 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi again Jean,

Download this training module regarding voice profiles, and there is a
lot of detail in there, including how to have a different voice for
Say All:-

https://support.freedomscientific.com/content/downloads/daisy/VoicePro
files.exe

All the best

Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 30 August 2022 15:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

Sorry Jean, it's not there, I thought it was.

So you'd have to create a new voice profile and have it trigger on Say All.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: 30 August 2022 13:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

Would you explain in more detail exactly where I choose "Say All". I have the context set to "All contexts" but no where is there anything that lets me choose "Say All".

Gene...


On 8/30/2022 3:57 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Check out Voice Adjustment, set context to Say All where it says All Contexts, then make your changes.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Warner
Sent: 27 August 2022 13:44
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

I don't necessarily need it to always start at the beginning of the document, starting from where my cursor is works fine for me. If say all uses the invisible cursor, how do you change the voice the invisible cursor uses?

Thanks!
Gene...


On 8/27/2022 1:28 AM, leonard morris wrote:
Can the invisible cursor read the entire document by routing the cursor to the beginning I never tried this I was just wondering. Maybe Here you can change the voice because I have my invisible cursor change to a female voice and my PC cursor to Tom eloquence I think he’s called.Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.

On Aug 26, 2022, at 7:34 PM, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:

I wonder why they would do that? Eloquence is fine for doing day to day tasks, but when I'm going to have JAWS' read something that might be some what long, such as the monthly newsletter my financial advisor send out, I'd like to be able to listen to it with a more human sounding voice.

Gene...


8/26/2022 7:23 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
I believe this feature used to be present but was removed long ago
(as in around 2010).
On 8/26/22, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:
Hi everyone!

I was just wondering if it is possible to have the Say All
feature use a different voice than the one I use as JAWS' default
voice which I have set to Eloquence.

Thanks!
Gene...







































Adrian Spratt
 

I've found Vispero's support staff to be responsive and interested in finding solutions. Last year, I had an especially vexing problem that they couldn’t replicate, but they not only kept working with me, but even initiated contact when an idea occurred to them. This was to do with the JAWS dictionary and how a large number of entries was somehow affecting JAWS's verbalization on the Web.

Again, asking questions and making suggestions is appropriate and what this list is about. Repeatedly trashing the very company that gives life to this list distracts from your sometimes substantive posts.

And no, I'm not a moderator, and I apologize to everyone for taking this detour. I won't pursue this thread further.

--
My novel Caroline is now available in paperback, Kindle and audiobook versions and, for qualified readers in the US, at the National Library Service/BARD. Go to: https://adrianspratt.com/book/

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2022 6:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

I read your message up to the point where you lashed out at me for what you called my hostility towards Vispero.

I too wouldn't know what I'd be doing without JAWS, but that doesn't give Vispero a pass on their very poor tech support or their lack of providing even a simple line of instruction on how to use the training file. And from experience I have found that trying to talk to Vispero is comparable to talking to a brick wall.

And since turn about is fair play, I'll tell you what I get very tired of and that is people who use their email signature to spam everyone else with advertising as you do.

Gene...





On 8/30/2022 6:34 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
Gene,

Here's how I accessed the files. When I clicked on the link provided
by Steven,
https://support.freedomscientific.com/content/downloads/daisy/VoicePro
files.exe an executable file went to my downloads folder. I pressed
enter, and soon I was told that files had been extracted.
I then opened the JAWS menu and went to "Help," and then "Training." After pressing enter on Training, this particular session appeared. I pressed enter again, and a DAISY file opened in FS Reader.

I agree, FS should have included some details about how to follow this sequence. However, it is tiresome when you lash out at Vispero. Pose the question, yes, and write to Vispero with a suggestion for how to clarify the procedure. However, I for one find your unrelentingly hostile attitude tiresome. I don't know where I'd be without JAWS.

--
My novel Caroline is now available in paperback, Kindle and audiobook
versions and, for qualified readers in the US, at the National Library
Service/BARD. Go to: https://adrianspratt.com/book/

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2022 6:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

I guess Vispero thinks that JAWS users have some mystical power of mind reading. Not one single word about how I'm supposed to access this training onece it is installed.

I always thought that Vispero was clueless, now I have proof.

Gene...


On 8/30/2022 11:05 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi again Jean,

Download this training module regarding voice profiles, and there is
a lot of detail in there, including how to have a different voice for
Say All:-

https://support.freedomscientific.com/content/downloads/daisy/VoicePr
o
files.exe

All the best

Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 30 August 2022 15:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

Sorry Jean, it's not there, I thought it was.

So you'd have to create a new voice profile and have it trigger on Say All.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Warner
Sent: 30 August 2022 13:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

Would you explain in more detail exactly where I choose "Say All". I have the context set to "All contexts" but no where is there anything that lets me choose "Say All".

Gene...


On 8/30/2022 3:57 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Check out Voice Adjustment, set context to Say All where it says All Contexts, then make your changes.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Warner
Sent: 27 August 2022 13:44
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

I don't necessarily need it to always start at the beginning of the document, starting from where my cursor is works fine for me. If say all uses the invisible cursor, how do you change the voice the invisible cursor uses?

Thanks!
Gene...


On 8/27/2022 1:28 AM, leonard morris wrote:
Can the invisible cursor read the entire document by routing the cursor to the beginning I never tried this I was just wondering. Maybe Here you can change the voice because I have my invisible cursor change to a female voice and my PC cursor to Tom eloquence I think he’s called.Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.

On Aug 26, 2022, at 7:34 PM, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:

I wonder why they would do that? Eloquence is fine for doing day to day tasks, but when I'm going to have JAWS' read something that might be some what long, such as the monthly newsletter my financial advisor send out, I'd like to be able to listen to it with a more human sounding voice.

Gene...


8/26/2022 7:23 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
I believe this feature used to be present but was removed long
ago (as in around 2010).
On 8/26/22, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:
Hi everyone!

I was just wondering if it is possible to have the Say All
feature use a different voice than the one I use as JAWS'
default voice which I have set to Eloquence.

Thanks!
Gene...














































JM Casey
 

Yeah, I figured it was an archive, so the first thign I did was open it with 7zip.
The tree is part of the url. So it goes content/downloads/daisy/blah-blah.exe. Something like that 9i deleted the emssage now so I'm not sure). There are probably instructions somewhere on the training page, but the original poster just provided the direct link to the exe file.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: August 30, 2022 06:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

I don't know what the web tree is or where it is.

I assume that the MSI installer is for FS Reader to either update it or to install it if it isn't on the machine you install the training files on.

I found out that the EXE is just a self extracting zip file, so I unpacked it with 7zip, so now I I'll know where to find them with FS Reader.

Gene...
I know

On 8/30/2022 6:18 PM, JM Casey wrote:
The url says it's in the daisy folder on the Freedom Scientific web tree, and they look like daisy files. Not sure what the msi installer is for though. You can play these with the ez-reader or whatever they call it that comes bundled with the shark.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: August 30, 2022 06:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

I guess Vispero thinks that JAWS users have some mystical power of mind reading. Not one single word about how I'm supposed to access this training onece it is installed.

I always thought that Vispero was clueless, now I have proof.

Gene...


On 8/30/2022 11:05 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi again Jean,

Download this training module regarding voice profiles, and there is
a lot of detail in there, including how to have a different voice for
Say All:-

https://support.freedomscientific.com/content/downloads/daisy/VoicePr
o
files.exe

All the best

Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 30 August 2022 15:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

Sorry Jean, it's not there, I thought it was.

So you'd have to create a new voice profile and have it trigger on Say All.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Warner
Sent: 30 August 2022 13:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

Would you explain in more detail exactly where I choose "Say All". I have the context set to "All contexts" but no where is there anything that lets me choose "Say All".

Gene...


On 8/30/2022 3:57 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Check out Voice Adjustment, set context to Say All where it says All Contexts, then make your changes.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Warner
Sent: 27 August 2022 13:44
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

I don't necessarily need it to always start at the beginning of the document, starting from where my cursor is works fine for me. If say all uses the invisible cursor, how do you change the voice the invisible cursor uses?

Thanks!
Gene...


On 8/27/2022 1:28 AM, leonard morris wrote:
Can the invisible cursor read the entire document by routing the cursor to the beginning I never tried this I was just wondering. Maybe Here you can change the voice because I have my invisible cursor change to a female voice and my PC cursor to Tom eloquence I think he’s called.Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.

On Aug 26, 2022, at 7:34 PM, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:

I wonder why they would do that? Eloquence is fine for doing day to day tasks, but when I'm going to have JAWS' read something that might be some what long, such as the monthly newsletter my financial advisor send out, I'd like to be able to listen to it with a more human sounding voice.

Gene...


8/26/2022 7:23 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
I believe this feature used to be present but was removed long
ago (as in around 2010).
On 8/26/22, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:
Hi everyone!

I was just wondering if it is possible to have the Say All
feature use a different voice than the one I use as JAWS'
default voice which I have set to Eloquence.

Thanks!
Gene...















































Steve Nutt
 

Hi Jean,

No, the way you open that training is a bit geeky.

If you have installed the module, go into FS Reader, Control O then put the following path:-

"C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Training\JAWS\enu\VoiceProfiles\ncc.html"

That will open the training module. From there, Control P will play audio or pause it, or you can read it textually.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: 30 August 2022 23:04
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

I guess Vispero thinks that JAWS users have some mystical power of mind reading. Not one single word about how I'm supposed to access this training onece it is installed.

I always thought that Vispero was clueless, now I have proof.

Gene...


On 8/30/2022 11:05 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi again Jean,

Download this training module regarding voice profiles, and there is a
lot of detail in there, including how to have a different voice for
Say All:-

https://support.freedomscientific.com/content/downloads/daisy/VoicePro
files.exe

All the best

Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 30 August 2022 15:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

Sorry Jean, it's not there, I thought it was.

So you'd have to create a new voice profile and have it trigger on Say All.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: 30 August 2022 13:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

Would you explain in more detail exactly where I choose "Say All". I have the context set to "All contexts" but no where is there anything that lets me choose "Say All".

Gene...


On 8/30/2022 3:57 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Check out Voice Adjustment, set context to Say All where it says All Contexts, then make your changes.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Warner
Sent: 27 August 2022 13:44
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

I don't necessarily need it to always start at the beginning of the document, starting from where my cursor is works fine for me. If say all uses the invisible cursor, how do you change the voice the invisible cursor uses?

Thanks!
Gene...


On 8/27/2022 1:28 AM, leonard morris wrote:
Can the invisible cursor read the entire document by routing the cursor to the beginning I never tried this I was just wondering. Maybe Here you can change the voice because I have my invisible cursor change to a female voice and my PC cursor to Tom eloquence I think he’s called.Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.

On Aug 26, 2022, at 7:34 PM, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:

I wonder why they would do that? Eloquence is fine for doing day to day tasks, but when I'm going to have JAWS' read something that might be some what long, such as the monthly newsletter my financial advisor send out, I'd like to be able to listen to it with a more human sounding voice.

Gene...


8/26/2022 7:23 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
I believe this feature used to be present but was removed long ago
(as in around 2010).
On 8/26/22, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:
Hi everyone!

I was just wondering if it is possible to have the Say All
feature use a different voice than the one I use as JAWS' default
voice which I have set to Eloquence.

Thanks!
Gene...







































Steve Nutt
 

The installer puts it into the Training folder, where all the other training modules are, but the reader isn't great at picking up that it is installed.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: 30 August 2022 23:19
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

The url says it's in the daisy folder on the Freedom Scientific web tree, and they look like daisy files. Not sure what the msi installer is for though. You can play these with the ez-reader or whatever they call it that comes bundled with the shark.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: August 30, 2022 06:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

I guess Vispero thinks that JAWS users have some mystical power of mind reading. Not one single word about how I'm supposed to access this training onece it is installed.

I always thought that Vispero was clueless, now I have proof.

Gene...


On 8/30/2022 11:05 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi again Jean,

Download this training module regarding voice profiles, and there is a
lot of detail in there, including how to have a different voice for
Say All:-

https://support.freedomscientific.com/content/downloads/daisy/VoicePro
files.exe

All the best

Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 30 August 2022 15:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

Sorry Jean, it's not there, I thought it was.

So you'd have to create a new voice profile and have it trigger on Say All.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: 30 August 2022 13:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

Would you explain in more detail exactly where I choose "Say All". I have the context set to "All contexts" but no where is there anything that lets me choose "Say All".

Gene...


On 8/30/2022 3:57 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Check out Voice Adjustment, set context to Say All where it says All Contexts, then make your changes.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Warner
Sent: 27 August 2022 13:44
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Specifying a voice for say all?

I don't necessarily need it to always start at the beginning of the document, starting from where my cursor is works fine for me. If say all uses the invisible cursor, how do you change the voice the invisible cursor uses?

Thanks!
Gene...


On 8/27/2022 1:28 AM, leonard morris wrote:
Can the invisible cursor read the entire document by routing the cursor to the beginning I never tried this I was just wondering. Maybe Here you can change the voice because I have my invisible cursor change to a female voice and my PC cursor to Tom eloquence I think he’s called.Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.

On Aug 26, 2022, at 7:34 PM, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:

I wonder why they would do that? Eloquence is fine for doing day to day tasks, but when I'm going to have JAWS' read something that might be some what long, such as the monthly newsletter my financial advisor send out, I'd like to be able to listen to it with a more human sounding voice.

Gene...


8/26/2022 7:23 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
I believe this feature used to be present but was removed long ago
(as in around 2010).
On 8/26/22, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:
Hi everyone!

I was just wondering if it is possible to have the Say All
feature use a different voice than the one I use as JAWS' default
voice which I have set to Eloquence.

Thanks!
Gene...