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Moderated Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe Mode in Windows 10
Mike B.
Hi Dave,
After you press the spacebar on the Safe Boot checkbox
and tab 1 time to, Boot Options, there will be 4 radio buttons and networking is
one of them.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2022 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe
Mode in Windows 10
Glenn:
Did you see the message I posted to Brian earlier
today?
None of the systems which I am running Windows 10,
show an option called "Safe mode with Networking". Do I need to do something in
order for that option to be shown in the Boot Tab in MsConfig?
Dave
----- Original Message -----From: Glenn / LennySent: Saturday, October 15, 2022 7:37 PMSubject: Re: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe Mode in Windows 10Hi Dave,That message is supposed to come up, it usually scares people, but something would be wrong if it did not pop up.Glenn----- Original Message -----From: Dave DurberSent: Saturday, October 15, 2022 1:35 PMSubject: Re: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe Mode in Windows 10Glenn:The information below, is the error information I got, after I selected the text and copied it to the clipboard and then pasted into notepad and then saved the information to a file calledTurn on System sounds in Safe Mode.reg*** Start of Error message from Windows 10 ***Registry Editor
Adding information can unintentionally change or delete values and cause components to stop working correctly. If you do not trust the source of this information in F:\Turn on System sounds in Safe Mode.reg, do not add it to the registry. Are you sure you want to continue?
Yes Button
Registry Editor
Cannot import F:\Turn on System sounds in Safe Mode.reg: Not all data was successfully written to the registry. Some keys are open by the system or other processes, or you have insufficient privileges to perform this operation.
OK Button
OK Button*** End of Error message from Windows 10 ***
On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 07:20 PM, Dave Durber wrote:
It is shown in the boot tab of MSCONFIG. I'm just not used to using MSCONFIG to do a safe boot and the networking choice comes up before Windows boots using the method I usually do.
In the Boot Tab of MSCONFIG, there is a checkbox for "Safe Boot" which you must check. Associated with that checkbox, and only accessible once it's checked, are a series of 4 radio buttons: Minimal, Alternate Shell, Active Directory Repair, and Network. Checking the Safe Mode checkbox and activating the Network radio button causes a safe mode boot with networking.
Something I've had happen once when using the MSCONFIG method is that when the machine restarted it would not accept my password or pin initially, but if I held down the power button until it shut off, then restarted it again with the power button it took it and went into safe mode. I have no idea how consistent this is, as I don't use the MSCONFIG method at all often to induce safe mode boot.
Remember that after you've done the boot into Safe Mode with Networkig using this method, that you have to invoke MSCONFIG while you're in Safe mode and go back to Normal startup in the General Tab in order to get the computer back to booting typically. Otherwise you end up booting into Safe Mode (with Networking) repeatedly until you do so.
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None of the systems which I am running Windows 10, show an option called "Safe mode with Networking". Do I need to do something in order for that option to be shown in the Boot Tab in MsConfig?-
It is shown in the boot tab of MSCONFIG. I'm just not used to using MSCONFIG to do a safe boot and the networking choice comes up before Windows boots using the method I usually do.
In the Boot Tab of MSCONFIG, there is a checkbox for "Safe Boot" which you must check. Associated with that checkbox, and only accessible once it's checked, are a series of 4 radio buttons: Minimal, Alternate Shell, Active Directory Repair, and Network. Checking the Safe Mode checkbox and activating the Network radio button causes a safe mode boot with networking.
Something I've had happen once when using the MSCONFIG method is that when the machine restarted it would not accept my password or pin initially, but if I held down the power button until it shut off, then restarted it again with the power button it took it and went into safe mode. I have no idea how consistent this is, as I don't use the MSCONFIG method at all often to induce safe mode boot.
Remember that after you've done the boot into Safe Mode with Networkig using this method, that you have to invoke MSCONFIG while you're in Safe mode and go back to Normal startup in the General Tab in order to get the computer back to booting typically. Otherwise you end up booting into Safe Mode (with Networking) repeatedly until you do so.
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Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.
~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 07:53 PM, Mike B. wrote:
Mike,
Thanks for answering, you posted before I finished composing my response.
I've been gone almost all day at an annual apple butter making I attend, so wasn't around to see additional questions or answer them promptly.
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After you press the spacebar on the Safe Boot checkbox and tab 1 time to, Boot Options, there will be 4 radio buttons and networking is one of them.-
Mike,
Thanks for answering, you posted before I finished composing my response.
I've been gone almost all day at an annual apple butter making I attend, so wasn't around to see additional questions or answer them promptly.
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Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.
~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
Annabelle Susan Morison
Is there any particular reason why there are foreign characters in the line
@="[6cFgE][Şοûпđ, νìδ℮ô άήδ ğªмè ¢őήťřόℓŀèґ !!! !!! !]"
JAWS thinks these characters are Russian.
On 10/15/2022 7:41 AM Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:
Hi Annabelle,No, you don't do anything with it but copy and paste it into a text file and rename it, or if you want to do it the easy way, I have both files in a zip file that I posted the link to, and you only enter on the .REG file to install it.Glenn----- Original Message -----From: Annabelle Susan MorisonSent: Saturday, October 15, 2022 3:55 AMSubject: Re: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe Mode in Windows 10
On the parts that say, ="Driver" and ="Service", does one have to specify the name of a driver and a service in order to make this work right? I'm confused!
On 10/14/2022 11:38 AM Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:
I'd be willing to bet that the registry hack that works in 7 will work in 10, for switching on audio in safe mode.Here's the registry hacks:Files 1&2 can be called anything you want.regSave the below in notepad and give it a .reg extension and save it and enter on it, Windows will ask you if you want to run it.After file 1, I'll put file 2 that will undo it if it does not work.File 1:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\{4D36E96C-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}]
@="[6cFgE][Şοûпđ, νìδ℮ô άήδ ğªмè ¢őήťřόℓŀèґ !!! !!! !]"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\{640167b4-59b0-47a6-b335-a6b3c0695aea}]
@="Portable Media Devices"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\AudioEndpointBuilder]
@="Service"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\Audiosrv]
@="Service"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\HdAudAddService]
@="Service"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\HDAudBus]
@="Service"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\drmkaud]
@="Driver"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\MMCSS]
@="Service"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\{4D36E96C-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}]
@="[6cFgE][Şοûпđ, νìδ℮ô άήδ ğªмè ¢őήťřόℓŀèґ !!! !!! !]"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\{640167b4-59b0-47a6-b335-a6b3c0695aea}]
@="Portable Media Devices"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\AudioEndpointBuilder]
@="Service"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\Audiosrv]
@="Service"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\HdAudAddService]
@="Service"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\HDAudBus]
@="Service"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\drmkaud]
@="Driver"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\MMCSS]
@="Service"
File 2:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\{4D36E96C-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}]
@="[6cFgE][Şοûпđ, νìδ℮ô άήδ ğªмè ¢őήťřόℓŀèґ !!! !!! !]"
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\{640167b4-59b0-47a6-b335-a6b3c0695aea}]
@="Portable Media Devices"
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\AudioEndpointBuilder]
@="Service"
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\Audiosrv]
@="Service"
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\HdAudAddService]
@="Service"
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\HDAudBus]
@="Service"
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\drmkaud]
@="Driver"
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\MMCSS]
@="Service"
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\{4D36E96C-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}]
@="[6cFgE][Şοûпđ, νìδ℮ô άήδ ğªмè ¢őήťřόℓŀèґ !!! !!! !]"
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\{640167b4-59b0-47a6-b335-a6b3c0695aea}]
@="Portable Media Devices"
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\AudioEndpointBuilder]
@="Service"
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\Audiosrv]
@="Service"
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\HdAudAddService]
@="Service"
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\HDAudBus]
@="Service"
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\drmkaud]
@="Driver"
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\MMCSS]
@="Service"
HTHGlenn----- Original Message -----From: Dave DurberSent: Friday, October 14, 2022 1:29 PMSubject: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe Mode in Windows 10
Hello everyone:
The subject line says it all. Earlier today, I checked the check box to have the system boot to safe mode, under the Boot Tab in MsConfig, saved the setting change then, I restarted the computer. . However, after waiting for about 2 minutes, I determined that the sound settings for the default sound card are not enabled for Windows 10 in Safe Mode. I was certain that the system had restarted in Safe Mode, and on that assumption, I used another computer with MsConfig to follow the steps, to uncheck the check box for the original computer then, I restarted the computer, which started in full Windows mode.
I have no idea how far back this problem goes, I do remember, the System Sounds were turned on for the last major update in 2019 because, I can remember booting Windows 10 into Safe Mode at that time and being able to use both Narrator and NVDA
Do you now need to initialize a setting in standard Windows in order for the System Sounds to be turned on for safe mode?
Dave
K0LNY
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No, you don't have to worry what is in the .REG
file.
Sorry I pasted the contents of the REG
file.
I thought some folks might want to roll their
own.
I didn't paste it for anyone to try to figure it
out.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: Annabelle
Susan Morison
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2022 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe
Mode in Windows 10
Is
there any particular reason why there are foreign characters in the line
@="[6cFgE][Şοûпđ,
νìδ℮ô άήδ ğªмè ¢őήťřόℓŀèґ !!! !!! !]"
JAWS
thinks these characters are Russian.
On 10/15/2022 7:41 AM Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:Hi Annabelle,No, you don't do anything with it but copy and paste it into a text file and rename it, or if you want to do it the easy way, I have both files in a zip file that I posted the link to, and you only enter on the .REG file to install it.Glenn----- Original Message -----From: Annabelle Susan MorisonSent: Saturday, October 15, 2022 3:55 AMSubject: Re: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe Mode in Windows 10On the parts that say, ="Driver" and ="Service", does one have to specify the name of a driver and a service in order to make this work right? I'm confused!On 10/14/2022 11:38 AM Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:I'd be willing to bet that the registry hack that works in 7 will work in 10, for switching on audio in safe mode.Here's the registry hacks:Files 1&2 can be called anything you want.regSave the below in notepad and give it a .reg extension and save it and enter on it, Windows will ask you if you want to run it.After file 1, I'll put file 2 that will undo it if it does not work.File 1:Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\{4D36E96C-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}]
@="[6cFgE][Şοûпđ, νìδ℮ô άήδ ğªмè ¢őήťřόℓŀèґ !!! !!! !]"[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\{640167b4-59b0-47a6-b335-a6b3c0695aea}]
@="Portable Media Devices"[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\AudioEndpointBuilder]
@="Service"[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\Audiosrv]
@="Service"[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\HdAudAddService]
@="Service"[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\HDAudBus]
@="Service"[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\drmkaud]
@="Driver"[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\MMCSS]
@="Service"[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\{4D36E96C-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}]
@="[6cFgE][Şοûпđ, νìδ℮ô άήδ ğªмè ¢őήťřόℓŀèґ !!! !!! !]"[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\{640167b4-59b0-47a6-b335-a6b3c0695aea}]
@="Portable Media Devices"[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\AudioEndpointBuilder]
@="Service"[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\Audiosrv]
@="Service"[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\HdAudAddService]
@="Service"[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\HDAudBus]
@="Service"[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\drmkaud]
@="Driver"[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\MMCSS]
@="Service"File 2:Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\{4D36E96C-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}]
@="[6cFgE][Şοûпđ, νìδ℮ô άήδ ğªмè ¢őήťřόℓŀèґ !!! !!! !]"[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\{640167b4-59b0-47a6-b335-a6b3c0695aea}]
@="Portable Media Devices"[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\AudioEndpointBuilder]
@="Service"[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\Audiosrv]
@="Service"[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\HdAudAddService]
@="Service"[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\HDAudBus]
@="Service"[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\drmkaud]
@="Driver"[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\MMCSS]
@="Service"[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\{4D36E96C-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}]
@="[6cFgE][Şοûпđ, νìδ℮ô άήδ ğªмè ¢őήťřόℓŀèґ !!! !!! !]"[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\{640167b4-59b0-47a6-b335-a6b3c0695aea}]
@="Portable Media Devices"[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\AudioEndpointBuilder]
@="Service"[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\Audiosrv]
@="Service"[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\HdAudAddService]
@="Service"[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\HDAudBus]
@="Service"[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\drmkaud]
@="Driver"[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\MMCSS]
@="Service"HTHGlenn----- Original Message -----From: Dave DurberSent: Friday, October 14, 2022 1:29 PMSubject: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe Mode in Windows 10Hello everyone:The subject line says it all. Earlier today, I checked the check box to have the system boot to safe mode, under the Boot Tab in MsConfig, saved the setting change then, I restarted the computer. . However, after waiting for about 2 minutes, I determined that the sound settings for the default sound card are not enabled for Windows 10 in Safe Mode. I was certain that the system had restarted in Safe Mode, and on that assumption, I used another computer with MsConfig to follow the steps, to uncheck the check box for the original computer then, I restarted the computer, which started in full Windows mode.I have no idea how far back this problem goes, I do remember, the System Sounds were turned on for the last major update in 2019 because, I can remember booting Windows 10 into Safe Mode at that time and being able to use both Narrator and NVDADo you now need to initialize a setting in standard Windows in order for the System Sounds to be turned on for safe mode?Dave
Annabelle,
I have no idea why Glenn/Lenny's registry edit script contains that key (Şοûпđ, νìδ℮ô άήδ ğªмè ¢őήťřόℓŀèґ !!! !!! !). That key should be, "Sound, video and game controllers"
I have double checked from the download link he gave, and this weird character sequence is present for the install and remove regedit scripts. I have to presume it was an accident that was somehow carried over at some point.
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I have no idea why Glenn/Lenny's registry edit script contains that key (Şοûпđ, νìδ℮ô άήδ ğªмè ¢őήťřόℓŀèґ !!! !!! !). That key should be, "Sound, video and game controllers"
I have double checked from the download link he gave, and this weird character sequence is present for the install and remove regedit scripts. I have to presume it was an accident that was somehow carried over at some point.
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Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.
~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
Annabelle Susan Morison
So you're saying the line should read:
@="Sound, video and game controllers"
Am I right?
On 10/15/2022 5:44 PM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
Annabelle,
I have no idea why Glenn/Lenny's registry edit script contains that key (Şοûпđ, νìδ℮ô άήδ ğªмè ¢őήťřόℓŀèґ !!! !!! !). That key should be, "Sound, video and game controllers"
I have double checked from the download link he gave, and this weird character sequence is present for the install and remove regedit scripts. I have to presume it was an accident that was somehow carried over at some point.
--
Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.
~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
Annabelle,
No, because I don't know anything about the [6cFgE] part. I just wanted you to be aware of what the actual text should be.
At this point I'm bowing out, as I've offered my solution which has been confirmed as working, still.
Getting Sound in Safe Mode Under Windows 10
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No, because I don't know anything about the [6cFgE] part. I just wanted you to be aware of what the actual text should be.
At this point I'm bowing out, as I've offered my solution which has been confirmed as working, still.
Getting Sound in Safe Mode Under Windows 10
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Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.
~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
K0LNY
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I have probably always had that, it came made for
NVDA, from an NVDA add-on source.
Never the less, it has always worked for
me.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2022 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe
Mode in Windows 10
No, because I don't know anything about the [6cFgE] part. I just wanted you to be aware of what the actual text should be.
At this point I'm bowing out, as I've offered my solution which has been confirmed as working, still.
Getting Sound in Safe Mode Under Windows 10
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Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build
19044
Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.
~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
Mike B.
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Hi Brian,
I like your answer better since it was more thorough and
I'll put it with my notes.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2022 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe
Mode in Windows 10
After you press the spacebar on the Safe Boot checkbox and tab 1 time to, Boot Options, there will be 4 radio buttons and networking is one of them.-
Mike,
Thanks for answering, you posted before I finished composing my response.
I've been gone almost all day at an annual apple butter making I attend, so wasn't around to see additional questions or answer them promptly.
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Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build
19044
Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.
~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
Dave Durber
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Brian:
To let you and others know, after you check the
check box for Safe Mode, you must tap the DOWN ARROW key 4 times, in order
to get down to the Network option.
Dave
----- Original Message -----From: Brian VogelSent: Sunday, October 16, 2022 1:00 AMSubject: Re: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe Mode in Windows 10On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 07:20 PM, Dave Durber wrote:
None of the systems which I am running Windows 10, show an option called "Safe mode with Networking". Do I need to do something in order for that option to be shown in the Boot Tab in MsConfig?-
It is shown in the boot tab of MSCONFIG. I'm just not used to using MSCONFIG to do a safe boot and the networking choice comes up before Windows boots using the method I usually do.
In the Boot Tab of MSCONFIG, there is a checkbox for "Safe Boot" which you must check. Associated with that checkbox, and only accessible once it's checked, are a series of 4 radio buttons: Minimal, Alternate Shell, Active Directory Repair, and Network. Checking the Safe Mode checkbox and activating the Network radio button causes a safe mode boot with networking.
Something I've had happen once when using the MSCONFIG method is that when the machine restarted it would not accept my password or pin initially, but if I held down the power button until it shut off, then restarted it again with the power button it took it and went into safe mode. I have no idea how consistent this is, as I don't use the MSCONFIG method at all often to induce safe mode boot.
Remember that after you've done the boot into Safe Mode with Networkig using this method, that you have to invoke MSCONFIG while you're in Safe mode and go back to Normal startup in the General Tab in order to get the computer back to booting typically. Otherwise you end up booting into Safe Mode (with Networking) repeatedly until you do so.
--
Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.
~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
Dave Durber
Mike:
Thanks.
Dave
----- Original Message -----From: Mike B.Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2022 12:53 AMSubject: Re: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe Mode in Windows 10Hi Dave,After you press the spacebar on the Safe Boot checkbox and tab 1 time to, Boot Options, there will be 4 radio buttons and networking is one of them.Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers!----- Original Message -----From: Dave DurberSent: Saturday, October 15, 2022 4:20 PMSubject: Re: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe Mode in Windows 10Glenn:Did you see the message I posted to Brian earlier today?None of the systems which I am running Windows 10, show an option called "Safe mode with Networking". Do I need to do something in order for that option to be shown in the Boot Tab in MsConfig?Dave----- Original Message -----From: Glenn / LennySent: Saturday, October 15, 2022 7:37 PMSubject: Re: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe Mode in Windows 10Hi Dave,That message is supposed to come up, it usually scares people, but something would be wrong if it did not pop up.Glenn----- Original Message -----From: Dave DurberSent: Saturday, October 15, 2022 1:35 PMSubject: Re: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe Mode in Windows 10Glenn:The information below, is the error information I got, after I selected the text and copied it to the clipboard and then pasted into notepad and then saved the information to a file calledTurn on System sounds in Safe Mode.reg*** Start of Error message from Windows 10 ***Registry Editor
Adding information can unintentionally change or delete values and cause components to stop working correctly. If you do not trust the source of this information in F:\Turn on System sounds in Safe Mode.reg, do not add it to the registry. Are you sure you want to continue?
Yes Button
Registry Editor
Cannot import F:\Turn on System sounds in Safe Mode.reg: Not all data was successfully written to the registry. Some keys are open by the system or other processes, or you have insufficient privileges to perform this operation.
OK Button
OK Button*** End of Error message from Windows 10 ***
Dave Durber
Glenn:
Once I have finished doing what I need to do in
Safe Mode, and I need to return my Windows 10 system back to standard Windows
mode, do I need to uncheck the Network option firsdt, then uncheck the Safe Mode
option or, does unchecking the Safe Mode option, automatically disable the
Network option at the same time?
Dave
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From: Glenn / LennySent: Sunday, October 16, 2022 12:31 AMSubject: Re: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe Mode in Windows 10Dave,In my windows 10, in the msconfig utility, I only get the network option after I use space bar on safe mode, and after that, there will be items to check with the space bar, like network.HTH.Glenn----- Original Message -----From: Dave DurberSent: Saturday, October 15, 2022 6:20 PMSubject: Re: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe Mode in Windows 10Glenn:Did you see the message I posted to Brian earlier today?None of the systems which I am running Windows 10, show an option called "Safe mode with Networking". Do I need to do something in order for that option to be shown in the Boot Tab in MsConfig?Dave----- Original Message -----From: Glenn / LennySent: Saturday, October 15, 2022 7:37 PMSubject: Re: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe Mode in Windows 10Hi Dave,That message is supposed to come up, it usually scares people, but something would be wrong if it did not pop up.Glenn----- Original Message -----From: Dave DurberSent: Saturday, October 15, 2022 1:35 PMSubject: Re: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe Mode in Windows 10Glenn:The information below, is the error information I got, after I selected the text and copied it to the clipboard and then pasted into notepad and then saved the information to a file calledTurn on System sounds in Safe Mode.reg*** Start of Error message from Windows 10 ***Registry Editor
Adding information can unintentionally change or delete values and cause components to stop working correctly. If you do not trust the source of this information in F:\Turn on System sounds in Safe Mode.reg, do not add it to the registry. Are you sure you want to continue?
Yes Button
Registry Editor
Cannot import F:\Turn on System sounds in Safe Mode.reg: Not all data was successfully written to the registry. Some keys are open by the system or other processes, or you have insufficient privileges to perform this operation.
OK Button
OK Button*** End of Error message from Windows 10 ***
Dave Durber
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Brian:
The link you posted in your last message, will work
if you click on it within the message. However, because the link does not
display the entire URL to the downloadable .zip file, it will not work if you
try to launch the link outside an email client or, directly from an email web
sight, such as GMail. Willyou please post the entire URL, so it can be saved in
order for it to be used at a later time.
Thank you in anticipation.
Dave
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From: Brian VogelSent: Saturday, October 15, 2022 12:46 AMSubject: Re: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe Mode in Windows 10William,
Thank you very much. Now it's been around a year since Google imposed a new security requirement, and I've gone in to as many of my links and corrected them as I could remember, but apparently not this one.
Getting Sound in Safe Mode Under Windows 10
That link should work. It's a ZIP file and you should save it to your Desktop (or copy it there from wherever it downloads) and unzip it there. After the unzipping, the ZIP file can be deleted. The instructions for using it after you've unzipped it are in the folder in a plain text file.
If there are any additional issues, please let me know.
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Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.
~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:56 AM, Dave Durber wrote:
I repeat: Remember that after you've done the boot into Safe Mode with Networking, you have to invoke MSCONFIG while you're in Safe mode and activate the Normal startup radio button in the General Tab in order to get the computer back to booting typically. Otherwise you end up booting into Safe Mode (with Networking) repeatedly until you do so.
The registry edits have nothing whatsoever with making the machine boot into safe mode, they just make it possible to have sound while in safe mode. It's the choice on the MSCONFIG General tab that indicates the system startup type. And when you've changed the bits on the Boot tab to have Safe Mode at boot, the radio button on the general tab is automatically switched to the third radio button, "Selective Startup", with it's first two checkboxes checked. (And it stays that way unless you reactivate the Normal startup radio button).
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Once I have finished doing what I need to do in Safe Mode, and I need to return my Windows 10 system back to standard Windows mode-
I repeat: Remember that after you've done the boot into Safe Mode with Networking, you have to invoke MSCONFIG while you're in Safe mode and activate the Normal startup radio button in the General Tab in order to get the computer back to booting typically. Otherwise you end up booting into Safe Mode (with Networking) repeatedly until you do so.
The registry edits have nothing whatsoever with making the machine boot into safe mode, they just make it possible to have sound while in safe mode. It's the choice on the MSCONFIG General tab that indicates the system startup type. And when you've changed the bits on the Boot tab to have Safe Mode at boot, the radio button on the general tab is automatically switched to the third radio button, "Selective Startup", with it's first two checkboxes checked. (And it stays that way unless you reactivate the Normal startup radio button).
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Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.
~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
Annabelle Susan Morison
I wonder, will this file of Sound in Safe Mode let JAWS run in there? Or is it just for Narrator and NVDA?
On 10/16/2022 8:07 AM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:56 AM, Dave Durber wrote:
Once I have finished doing what I need to do in Safe Mode, and I need to return my Windows 10 system back to standard Windows mode-
I repeat: Remember that after you've done the boot into Safe Mode with Networking, you have to invoke MSCONFIG while you're in Safe mode and activate the Normal startup radio button in the General Tab in order to get the computer back to booting typically. Otherwise you end up booting into Safe Mode (with Networking) repeatedly until you do so.
The registry edits have nothing whatsoever with making the machine boot into safe mode, they just make it possible to have sound while in safe mode. It's the choice on the MSCONFIG General tab that indicates the system startup type. And when you've changed the bits on the Boot tab to have Safe Mode at boot, the radio button on the general tab is automatically switched to the third radio button, "Selective Startup", with it's first two checkboxes checked. (And it stays that way unless you reactivate the Normal startup radio button).
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Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.
~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
Mike B.
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Hi Dave,
In msconfig on the, General tab, my Windows10 system is
set on, Selective, startup so, make sure you check your General tab setting so
you know what to go back to after you're done in safe Mode.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2022 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe
Mode in Windows 10
Once I have finished doing what I need to do in Safe Mode, and I need to return my Windows 10 system back to standard Windows mode-
I repeat: Remember that after you've done the boot into Safe Mode with Networking, you have to invoke MSCONFIG while you're in Safe mode and activate the Normal startup radio button in the General Tab in order to get the computer back to booting typically. Otherwise you end up booting into Safe Mode (with Networking) repeatedly until you do so.
The registry edits have nothing whatsoever with making the machine boot into safe mode, they just make it possible to have sound while in safe mode. It's the choice on the MSCONFIG General tab that indicates the system startup type. And when you've changed the bits on the Boot tab to have Safe Mode at boot, the radio button on the general tab is automatically switched to the third radio button, "Selective Startup", with it's first two checkboxes checked. (And it stays that way unless you reactivate the Normal startup radio button).
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Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build
19044
Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.
~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
K0LNY
Hi Dave,
You might have read the answer to that already, but
if not, then I'll add that you have to uncheck safe mode to boot to
normal.
I don't know if you have to check networking every
time you check safe mode, or if it keeps your last setting.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2022 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe
Mode in Windows 10
Glenn:
Once I have finished doing what I need to do in
Safe Mode, and I need to return my Windows 10 system back to standard Windows
mode, do I need to uncheck the Network option firsdt, then uncheck the Safe Mode
option or, does unchecking the Safe Mode option, automatically disable the
Network option at the same time?
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: Glenn / LennySent: Sunday, October 16, 2022 12:31 AMSubject: Re: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe Mode in Windows 10Dave,In my windows 10, in the msconfig utility, I only get the network option after I use space bar on safe mode, and after that, there will be items to check with the space bar, like network.HTH.Glenn----- Original Message -----From: Dave DurberSent: Saturday, October 15, 2022 6:20 PMSubject: Re: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe Mode in Windows 10Glenn:Did you see the message I posted to Brian earlier today?None of the systems which I am running Windows 10, show an option called "Safe mode with Networking". Do I need to do something in order for that option to be shown in the Boot Tab in MsConfig?Dave----- Original Message -----From: Glenn / LennySent: Saturday, October 15, 2022 7:37 PMSubject: Re: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe Mode in Windows 10Hi Dave,That message is supposed to come up, it usually scares people, but something would be wrong if it did not pop up.Glenn----- Original Message -----From: Dave DurberSent: Saturday, October 15, 2022 1:35 PMSubject: Re: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe Mode in Windows 10Glenn:The information below, is the error information I got, after I selected the text and copied it to the clipboard and then pasted into notepad and then saved the information to a file calledTurn on System sounds in Safe Mode.reg*** Start of Error message from Windows 10 ***Registry Editor
Adding information can unintentionally change or delete values and cause components to stop working correctly. If you do not trust the source of this information in F:\Turn on System sounds in Safe Mode.reg, do not add it to the registry. Are you sure you want to continue?
Yes Button
Registry Editor
Cannot import F:\Turn on System sounds in Safe Mode.reg: Not all data was successfully written to the registry. Some keys are open by the system or other processes, or you have insufficient privileges to perform this operation.
OK Button
OK Button*** End of Error message from Windows 10 ***
K0LNY
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Annabelle,
It is just audio, so whatever uses the sound card
can then work in safe mode, it means you can play audio files in safe mode
too.
Glenn
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From: Annabelle
Susan Morison
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2022 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe
Mode in Windows 10
I
wonder, will this file of Sound in Safe Mode let JAWS run in there? Or is it
just for Narrator and NVDA?
On 10/16/2022 8:07 AM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:56 AM, Dave Durber wrote:
Once I have finished doing what I need to do in Safe Mode, and I need to return my Windows 10 system back to standard Windows mode-
I repeat: Remember that after you've done the boot into Safe Mode with Networking, you have to invoke MSCONFIG while you're in Safe mode and activate the Normal startup radio button in the General Tab in order to get the computer back to booting typically. Otherwise you end up booting into Safe Mode (with Networking) repeatedly until you do so.
The registry edits have nothing whatsoever with making the machine boot into safe mode, they just make it possible to have sound while in safe mode. It's the choice on the MSCONFIG General tab that indicates the system startup type. And when you've changed the bits on the Boot tab to have Safe Mode at boot, the radio button on the general tab is automatically switched to the third radio button, "Selective Startup", with it's first two checkboxes checked. (And it stays that way unless you reactivate the Normal startup radio button).
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Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.
~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 12:23 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
That depends on whether you've checked another checkbox on this same tab that says something like "retain the selected settings" or not. I never retain them, so I always make the choice each time. That checkbox is standalone and comes after the Safe Mode checkbox and radio button set.
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I don't know if you have to check networking every time you check safe mode, or if it keeps your last setting.-
That depends on whether you've checked another checkbox on this same tab that says something like "retain the selected settings" or not. I never retain them, so I always make the choice each time. That checkbox is standalone and comes after the Safe Mode checkbox and radio button set.
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Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.
~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore