Hello, everyone.

 

I’m in the market for a Jaws-compatible Windows Tablet that I can take with me for note-taking, checking e-mail, and browsing the web when traveling.

 

I do not expect a tablet to be nearly as robust and functional as the Windows Dell Laptop that I currently use as my main computer, but would like to have something adequate for the basic functions I described above.

 

I currently am using Windows 10 as my operating system, and fully realize that any new tablet I purchase today will contain Windows 11.

 

I have Microsoft 365, and the latest version of Jaws 2023.  I also use Google Chrome as my main internet browser.

 

I am looking for a tablet that will have a usable keyboard, although I realize that this may not involve a number pad.  I do have a Logitec bluetooth keyboard that I can use if needed.

 

I’ve done a fair amount of research already, andhave come up with the following possibility:

 

Surface Pro 8

13 inch touch screen

Intel 11th Generation Core

i7-1185G7

16GB memory

256 GB total storage

 

On sale for $959.99

 

 

This might be a bit of overkill in terms of Jaws requirements, but I’d rather have more than I need, than purchase something that would be only marginally suitable.

 

I’d be interested if this sounds like a reasonable choice for what I’m needing.

 

And, I have a few more questions:

 

1.  Since this tablet has no numpad, how do you invoke the usual Jaws reading commands?  Can you use the insert key, followed by  the regular number on the main number row?  I think the insert key is invoked by by using the function and dlete key together.

 

2.  I suspect there’s no application key on the main keyboard;  so, do you simply use shift F10?

 

3.  Since there’s no standard headphone jack, and, I believe, only one USB port, would I be best to purchase a set of bluetooth earphones so I can take notes in a public place such as an airport waiting area if needed?  If so, what bluetooth headphones are recommended?

 

4.  I have changed operating systems before, and jus wonder how much of a learning curve is involved with moving from Windows 10 to Windows 11?

 

5.  Is there anything else I should be thinking about?

 

Since this thread might not be of interest to many people on the list, I’d ask that you please respond privately so as to minimize list traffic.

 

My private e-mail is:

 

tombehler@...

 

Thank you!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler From Michigan

 

 

On 1/27/23, Tom Behler <tombehler@...> wrote:

Hello, everyone.



I'm in the market for a Jaws-compatible Windows Tablet that I can take with
me for note-taking, checking e-mail, and browsing the web when traveling.



I do not expect a tablet to be nearly as robust and functional as the
Windows Dell Laptop that I currently use as my main computer, but would
like
to have something adequate for the basic functions I described above.



I currently am using Windows 10 as my operating system, and fully realize
that any new tablet I purchase today will contain Windows 11.



I have Microsoft 365, and the latest version of Jaws 2023. I also use
Google Chrome as my main internet browser.



I am looking for a tablet that will have a usable keyboard, although I
realize that this may not involve a number pad. I do have a Logitec
bluetooth keyboard that I can use if needed.



I've done a fair amount of research already, andhave come up with the
following possibility:



Surface Pro 8

13 inch touch screen

Intel 11th Generation Core

i7-1185G7

16GB memory

256 GB total storage



On sale for $959.99





This might be a bit of overkill in terms of Jaws requirements, but I'd
rather have more than I need, than purchase something that would be only
marginally suitable.



I'd be interested if this sounds like a reasonable choice for what I'm
needing.



And, I have a few more questions:



1. Since this tablet has no numpad, how do you invoke the usual Jaws
reading commands? Can you use the insert key, followed by the regular
number on the main number row? I think the insert key is invoked by by
using the function and dlete key together.



2. I suspect there's no application key on the main keyboard; so, do you
simply use shift F10?



3. Since there's no standard headphone jack, and, I believe, only one USB
port, would I be best to purchase a set of bluetooth earphones so I can
take
notes in a public place such as an airport waiting area if needed? If so,
what bluetooth headphones are recommended?



4. I have changed operating systems before, and jus wonder how much of a
learning curve is involved with moving from Windows 10 to Windows 11?



5. Is there anything else I should be thinking about?



Since this thread might not be of interest to many people on the list, I'd
ask that you please respond privately so as to minimize list traffic.



My private e-mail is:



tombehler@... <mailto:tombehler@...>



Thank you!



Dr. Tom Behler From Michigan

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2023 9:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Some Questions On Jaws-Compatible Windows Tablets

 

Hello.

Well, I can give a couple of ideas.

First of all, windows 11 really isn't much different from 10.  I know they moved the location of the start button, but Jaws doesn't care.  Other than that, I can't think of a single difference I've run into, and I have both 11 and 10 machines around here.  As far as the keyboard goes, you could always use the jaws laptop layout; you won't likely be able to use the top numbers along with a function key to emulate jaws commands.

As far as hardware spec goes, it sounds fine to me, I'd probably opt for less processor and more storage, but I tend to want to take it all with me, no matter how big all is.

CH

Hello, everyone.

 

I’m in the market for a Jaws-compatible Windows Tablet that I can take with me for note-taking, checking e-mail, and browsing the web when traveling.

 

I do not expect a tablet to be nearly as robust and functional as the Windows Dell Laptop that I currently use as my main computer, but would like to have something adequate for the basic functions I described above.

 

I currently am using Windows 10 as my operating system, and fully realize that any new tablet I purchase today will contain Windows 11.

 

I have Microsoft 365, and the latest version of Jaws 2023.  I also use Google Chrome as my main internet browser.

 

I am looking for a tablet that will have a usable keyboard, although I realize that this may not involve a number pad.  I do have a Logitec bluetooth keyboard that I can use if needed.

 

I’ve done a fair amount of research already, andhave come up with the following possibility:

 

Surface Pro 8

13 inch touch screen

Intel 11th Generation Core

i7-1185G7

16GB memory

256 GB total storage

 

On sale for $959.99

 

 

This might be a bit of overkill in terms of Jaws requirements, but I’d rather have more than I need, than purchase something that would be only marginally suitable.

 

I’d be interested if this sounds like a reasonable choice for what I’m needing.

 

And, I have a few more questions:

 

1.  Since this tablet has no numpad, how do you invoke the usual Jaws reading commands?  Can you use the insert key, followed by  the regular number on the main number row?  I think the insert key is invoked by by using the function and dlete key together.

 

2.  I suspect there’s no application key on the main keyboard;  so, do you simply use shift F10?

 

3.  Since there’s no standard headphone jack, and, I believe, only one USB port, would I be best to purchase a set of bluetooth earphones so I can take notes in a public place such as an airport waiting area if needed?  If so, what bluetooth headphones are recommended?

 

4.  I have changed operating systems before, and jus wonder how much of a learning curve is involved with moving from Windows 10 to Windows 11?

 

5.  Is there anything else I should be thinking about?

 

Since this thread might not be of interest to many people on the list, I’d ask that you please respond privately so as to minimize list traffic.

 

My private e-mail is:

 

tombehler@...

 

Thank you!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler From Michigan

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2023 9:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Some Questions On Jaws-Compatible Windows Tablets

Hi. I once had a Surface Go. It worked ok in terms of Jaws, but I would not recommend buying one with only 4 GB or ram.

On 1/27/23, Tom Behler <tombehler@...> wrote:

Hello, everyone.



I'm in the market for a Jaws-compatible Windows Tablet that I can take
with me for note-taking, checking e-mail, and browsing the web when traveling.



I do not expect a tablet to be nearly as robust and functional as the
Windows Dell Laptop that I currently use as my main computer, but
would like to have something adequate for the basic functions I
described above.



I currently am using Windows 10 as my operating system, and fully
realize that any new tablet I purchase today will contain Windows 11.



I have Microsoft 365, and the latest version of Jaws 2023. I also use
Google Chrome as my main internet browser.



I am looking for a tablet that will have a usable keyboard, although I
realize that this may not involve a number pad. I do have a Logitec
bluetooth keyboard that I can use if needed.



I've done a fair amount of research already, andhave come up with the
following possibility:



Surface Pro 8

13 inch touch screen

Intel 11th Generation Core

i7-1185G7

16GB memory

256 GB total storage



On sale for $959.99





This might be a bit of overkill in terms of Jaws requirements, but I'd
rather have more than I need, than purchase something that would be
only marginally suitable.



I'd be interested if this sounds like a reasonable choice for what I'm
needing.



And, I have a few more questions:



1. Since this tablet has no numpad, how do you invoke the usual Jaws
reading commands? Can you use the insert key, followed by the
regular number on the main number row? I think the insert key is
invoked by by using the function and dlete key together.



2. I suspect there's no application key on the main keyboard; so, do
you simply use shift F10?



3. Since there's no standard headphone jack, and, I believe, only one
USB port, would I be best to purchase a set of bluetooth earphones so
I can take notes in a public place such as an airport waiting area if
needed? If so, what bluetooth headphones are recommended?



4. I have changed operating systems before, and jus wonder how much
of a learning curve is involved with moving from Windows 10 to Windows 11?



5. Is there anything else I should be thinking about?



Since this thread might not be of interest to many people on the list,
I'd ask that you please respond privately so as to minimize list traffic.



My private e-mail is:



tombehler@... <mailto:tombehler@...>



Thank you!



Dr. Tom Behler From Michigan

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2023 11:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Some Questions On Jaws-Compatible Windows Tablets

 

If you can’t use the numbers on the top row to emulate Jaws commands, how do you do basic Jaws functions?

 

The answer might be obvious, but it is not clear to  me right now.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

 

Hello.

Well, I can give a couple of ideas.

First of all, windows 11 really isn't much different from 10.  I know they moved the location of the start button, but Jaws doesn't care.  Other than that, I can't think of a single difference I've run into, and I have both 11 and 10 machines around here.  As far as the keyboard goes, you could always use the jaws laptop layout; you won't likely be able to use the top numbers along with a function key to emulate jaws commands.

As far as hardware spec goes, it sounds fine to me, I'd probably opt for less processor and more storage, but I tend to want to take it all with me, no matter how big all is.

CH

Hello, everyone.

 

I’m in the market for a Jaws-compatible Windows Tablet that I can take with me for note-taking, checking e-mail, and browsing the web when traveling.

 

I do not expect a tablet to be nearly as robust and functional as the Windows Dell Laptop that I currently use as my main computer, but would like to have something adequate for the basic functions I described above.

 

I currently am using Windows 10 as my operating system, and fully realize that any new tablet I purchase today will contain Windows 11.

 

I have Microsoft 365, and the latest version of Jaws 2023.  I also use Google Chrome as my main internet browser.

 

I am looking for a tablet that will have a usable keyboard, although I realize that this may not involve a number pad.  I do have a Logitec bluetooth keyboard that I can use if needed.

 

I’ve done a fair amount of research already, andhave come up with the following possibility:

 

Surface Pro 8

13 inch touch screen

Intel 11th Generation Core

i7-1185G7

16GB memory

256 GB total storage

 

On sale for $959.99

 

 

This might be a bit of overkill in terms of Jaws requirements, but I’d rather have more than I need, than purchase something that would be only marginally suitable.

 

I’d be interested if this sounds like a reasonable choice for what I’m needing.

 

And, I have a few more questions:

 

1.  Since this tablet has no numpad, how do you invoke the usual Jaws reading commands?  Can you use the insert key, followed by  the regular number on the main number row?  I think the insert key is invoked by by using the function and dlete key together.

 

2.  I suspect there’s no application key on the main keyboard;  so, do you simply use shift F10?

 

3.  Since there’s no standard headphone jack, and, I believe, only one USB port, would I be best to purchase a set of bluetooth earphones so I can take notes in a public place such as an airport waiting area if needed?  If so, what bluetooth headphones are recommended?

 

4.  I have changed operating systems before, and jus wonder how much of a learning curve is involved with moving from Windows 10 to Windows 11?

 

5.  Is there anything else I should be thinking about?

 

Since this thread might not be of interest to many people on the list, I’d ask that you please respond privately so as to minimize list traffic.

 

My private e-mail is:

 

tombehler@...

 

Thank you!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler From Michigan

 

 

 

If you can’t use the numbers on the top row to emulate Jaws commands, how do you do basic Jaws functions?

 

The answer might be obvious, but it is not clear to  me right now.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2023 9:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Some Questions On Jaws-Compatible Windows Tablets

 

Hello.

Well, I can give a couple of ideas.

First of all, windows 11 really isn't much different from 10.  I know they moved the location of the start button, but Jaws doesn't care.  Other than that, I can't think of a single difference I've run into, and I have both 11 and 10 machines around here.  As far as the keyboard goes, you could always use the jaws laptop layout; you won't likely be able to use the top numbers along with a function key to emulate jaws commands.

As far as hardware spec goes, it sounds fine to me, I'd probably opt for less processor and more storage, but I tend to want to take it all with me, no matter how big all is.

CH

On 1/27/2023 18:57, Tom Behler wrote:

Hello, everyone.

 

I’m in the market for a Jaws-compatible Windows Tablet that I can take with me for note-taking, checking e-mail, and browsing the web when traveling.

 

I do not expect a tablet to be nearly as robust and functional as the Windows Dell Laptop that I currently use as my main computer, but would like to have something adequate for the basic functions I described above.

 

I currently am using Windows 10 as my operating system, and fully realize that any new tablet I purchase today will contain Windows 11.

 

I have Microsoft 365, and the latest version of Jaws 2023.  I also use Google Chrome as my main internet browser.

 

I am looking for a tablet that will have a usable keyboard, although I realize that this may not involve a number pad.  I do have a Logitec bluetooth keyboard that I can use if needed.

 

I’ve done a fair amount of research already, andhave come up with the following possibility:

 

Surface Pro 8

13 inch touch screen

Intel 11th Generation Core

i7-1185G7

16GB memory

256 GB total storage

 

On sale for $959.99

 

 

This might be a bit of overkill in terms of Jaws requirements, but I’d rather have more than I need, than purchase something that would be only marginally suitable.

 

I’d be interested if this sounds like a reasonable choice for what I’m needing.

 

And, I have a few more questions:

 

1.  Since this tablet has no numpad, how do you invoke the usual Jaws reading commands?  Can you use the insert key, followed by  the regular number on the main number row?  I think the insert key is invoked by by using the function and dlete key together.

 

2.  I suspect there’s no application key on the main keyboard;  so, do you simply use shift F10?

 

3.  Since there’s no standard headphone jack, and, I believe, only one USB port, would I be best to purchase a set of bluetooth earphones so I can take notes in a public place such as an airport waiting area if needed?  If so, what bluetooth headphones are recommended?

 

4.  I have changed operating systems before, and jus wonder how much of a learning curve is involved with moving from Windows 10 to Windows 11?

 

5.  Is there anything else I should be thinking about?

 

Since this thread might not be of interest to many people on the list, I’d ask that you please respond privately so as to minimize list traffic.

 

My private e-mail is:

 

tombehler@...

 

Thank you!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler From Michigan

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nermin via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2023 12:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Some Questions On Jaws-Compatible Windows Tablets

Hi Tom,


look at the Samsung Galaxy Book line of laptops.

As far as weight is concerned, most of them are pretty light..

My Samsung Galaxy Book Pro LTE only weighs about 870 grams.

This is a 13 inch model that has no touch screen, but you also find them wit one.

My model has 16 GB of RAM, but you also find them with 8. It has an SSD with 512 GB of storage.


I heard the Lenovo line of what one would call subnotebooks is also
great as far as specs are concerned.

It does not always have to be a Surface.


The keyboard on my Samsung is one of the best keyboards for longer texts.

You do most JAWS commands using the home row or any other letter key in
comjunction with INSERT.

Also, you can emulate numpad keys using the FN key on most laptops that
do not have a dedicated numpad.


Regards,

Nermin

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2023 5:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Some Questions On Jaws-Compatible Windows Tablets

 

Hi,

 

I have the Surface Pro and it works great. I commonly attach my keyboard to make it easier but if not, I always have an external number pad nearby.

 

Rick

 

 

If you can’t use the numbers on the top row to emulate Jaws commands, how do you do basic Jaws functions?

 

The answer might be obvious, but it is not clear to  me right now.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

 

Hello.

Well, I can give a couple of ideas.

First of all, windows 11 really isn't much different from 10.  I know they moved the location of the start button, but Jaws doesn't care.  Other than that, I can't think of a single difference I've run into, and I have both 11 and 10 machines around here.  As far as the keyboard goes, you could always use the jaws laptop layout; you won't likely be able to use the top numbers along with a function key to emulate jaws commands.

As far as hardware spec goes, it sounds fine to me, I'd probably opt for less processor and more storage, but I tend to want to take it all with me, no matter how big all is.

CH

Hello, everyone.

 

I’m in the market for a Jaws-compatible Windows Tablet that I can take with me for note-taking, checking e-mail, and browsing the web when traveling.

 

I do not expect a tablet to be nearly as robust and functional as the Windows Dell Laptop that I currently use as my main computer, but would like to have something adequate for the basic functions I described above.

 

I currently am using Windows 10 as my operating system, and fully realize that any new tablet I purchase today will contain Windows 11.

 

I have Microsoft 365, and the latest version of Jaws 2023.  I also use Google Chrome as my main internet browser.

 

I am looking for a tablet that will have a usable keyboard, although I realize that this may not involve a number pad.  I do have a Logitec bluetooth keyboard that I can use if needed.

 

I’ve done a fair amount of research already, andhave come up with the following possibility:

 

Surface Pro 8

13 inch touch screen

Intel 11th Generation Core

i7-1185G7

16GB memory

256 GB total storage

 

On sale for $959.99

 

 

This might be a bit of overkill in terms of Jaws requirements, but I’d rather have more than I need, than purchase something that would be only marginally suitable.

 

I’d be interested if this sounds like a reasonable choice for what I’m needing.

 

And, I have a few more questions:

 

1.  Since this tablet has no numpad, how do you invoke the usual Jaws reading commands?  Can you use the insert key, followed by  the regular number on the main number row?  I think the insert key is invoked by by using the function and dlete key together.

 

2.  I suspect there’s no application key on the main keyboard;  so, do you simply use shift F10?

 

3.  Since there’s no standard headphone jack, and, I believe, only one USB port, would I be best to purchase a set of bluetooth earphones so I can take notes in a public place such as an airport waiting area if needed?  If so, what bluetooth headphones are recommended?

 

4.  I have changed operating systems before, and jus wonder how much of a learning curve is involved with moving from Windows 10 to Windows 11?

 

5.  Is there anything else I should be thinking about?

 

Since this thread might not be of interest to many people on the list, I’d ask that you please respond privately so as to minimize list traffic.

 

My private e-mail is:

 

tombehler@...

 

Thank you!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler From Michigan

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2023 10:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Some Questions On Jaws-Compatible Windows Tablets

 

Rick:

 

With your surface pro, is there a way to emulate the number pad in order to do basic Jaws commands, or do you have to use the separate numpad as yu suggest?

 

Tom Behler

 

 

 

Hi,

 

I have the Surface Pro and it works great. I commonly attach my keyboard to make it easier but if not, I always have an external number pad nearby.

 

Rick

 

 

If you can’t use the numbers on the top row to emulate Jaws commands, how do you do basic Jaws functions?

 

The answer might be obvious, but it is not clear to  me right now.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

 

Hello.

Well, I can give a couple of ideas.

First of all, windows 11 really isn't much different from 10.  I know they moved the location of the start button, but Jaws doesn't care.  Other than that, I can't think of a single difference I've run into, and I have both 11 and 10 machines around here.  As far as the keyboard goes, you could always use the jaws laptop layout; you won't likely be able to use the top numbers along with a function key to emulate jaws commands.

As far as hardware spec goes, it sounds fine to me, I'd probably opt for less processor and more storage, but I tend to want to take it all with me, no matter how big all is.

CH

Hello, everyone.

 

I’m in the market for a Jaws-compatible Windows Tablet that I can take with me for note-taking, checking e-mail, and browsing the web when traveling.

 

I do not expect a tablet to be nearly as robust and functional as the Windows Dell Laptop that I currently use as my main computer, but would like to have something adequate for the basic functions I described above.

 

I currently am using Windows 10 as my operating system, and fully realize that any new tablet I purchase today will contain Windows 11.

 

I have Microsoft 365, and the latest version of Jaws 2023.  I also use Google Chrome as my main internet browser.

 

I am looking for a tablet that will have a usable keyboard, although I realize that this may not involve a number pad.  I do have a Logitec bluetooth keyboard that I can use if needed.

 

I’ve done a fair amount of research already, andhave come up with the following possibility:

 

Surface Pro 8

13 inch touch screen

Intel 11th Generation Core

i7-1185G7

16GB memory

256 GB total storage

 

On sale for $959.99

 

 

This might be a bit of overkill in terms of Jaws requirements, but I’d rather have more than I need, than purchase something that would be only marginally suitable.

 

I’d be interested if this sounds like a reasonable choice for what I’m needing.

 

And, I have a few more questions:

 

1.  Since this tablet has no numpad, how do you invoke the usual Jaws reading commands?  Can you use the insert key, followed by  the regular number on the main number row?  I think the insert key is invoked by by using the function and dlete key together.

 

2.  I suspect there’s no application key on the main keyboard;  so, do you simply use shift F10?

 

3.  Since there’s no standard headphone jack, and, I believe, only one USB port, would I be best to purchase a set of bluetooth earphones so I can take notes in a public place such as an airport waiting area if needed?  If so, what bluetooth headphones are recommended?

 

4.  I have changed operating systems before, and jus wonder how much of a learning curve is involved with moving from Windows 10 to Windows 11?

 

5.  Is there anything else I should be thinking about?

 

Since this thread might not be of interest to many people on the list, I’d ask that you please respond privately so as to minimize list traffic.

 

My private e-mail is:

 

tombehler@...

 

Thank you!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler From Michigan

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2023 7:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Some Questions On Jaws-Compatible Windows Tablets

 

Jaws has  different keyboard layouts.  The one we all use is the desktop layout.  The laptop layout is designed to use the caps lock as the modifier and doesn't use the numeric pad.
The setting can be found under options/basic

If you can’t use the numbers on the top row to emulate Jaws commands, how do you do basic Jaws functions?

 

The answer might be obvious, but it is not clear to  me right now.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2023 9:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Some Questions On Jaws-Compatible Windows Tablets

 

Hello.

Well, I can give a couple of ideas.

First of all, windows 11 really isn't much different from 10.  I know they moved the location of the start button, but Jaws doesn't care.  Other than that, I can't think of a single difference I've run into, and I have both 11 and 10 machines around here.  As far as the keyboard goes, you could always use the jaws laptop layout; you won't likely be able to use the top numbers along with a function key to emulate jaws commands.

As far as hardware spec goes, it sounds fine to me, I'd probably opt for less processor and more storage, but I tend to want to take it all with me, no matter how big all is.

CH

On 1/27/2023 18:57, Tom Behler wrote:

Hello, everyone.

 

I’m in the market for a Jaws-compatible Windows Tablet that I can take with me for note-taking, checking e-mail, and browsing the web when traveling.

 

I do not expect a tablet to be nearly as robust and functional as the Windows Dell Laptop that I currently use as my main computer, but would like to have something adequate for the basic functions I described above.

 

I currently am using Windows 10 as my operating system, and fully realize that any new tablet I purchase today will contain Windows 11.

 

I have Microsoft 365, and the latest version of Jaws 2023.  I also use Google Chrome as my main internet browser.

 

I am looking for a tablet that will have a usable keyboard, although I realize that this may not involve a number pad.  I do have a Logitec bluetooth keyboard that I can use if needed.

 

I’ve done a fair amount of research already, andhave come up with the following possibility:

 

Surface Pro 8

13 inch touch screen

Intel 11th Generation Core

i7-1185G7

16GB memory

256 GB total storage

 

On sale for $959.99

 

 

This might be a bit of overkill in terms of Jaws requirements, but I’d rather have more than I need, than purchase something that would be only marginally suitable.

 

I’d be interested if this sounds like a reasonable choice for what I’m needing.

 

And, I have a few more questions:

 

1.  Since this tablet has no numpad, how do you invoke the usual Jaws reading commands?  Can you use the insert key, followed by  the regular number on the main number row?  I think the insert key is invoked by by using the function and dlete key together.

 

2.  I suspect there’s no application key on the main keyboard;  so, do you simply use shift F10?

 

3.  Since there’s no standard headphone jack, and, I believe, only one USB port, would I be best to purchase a set of bluetooth earphones so I can take notes in a public place such as an airport waiting area if needed?  If so, what bluetooth headphones are recommended?

 

4.  I have changed operating systems before, and jus wonder how much of a learning curve is involved with moving from Windows 10 to Windows 11?

 

5.  Is there anything else I should be thinking about?

 

Since this thread might not be of interest to many people on the list, I’d ask that you please respond privately so as to minimize list traffic.

 

My private e-mail is:

 

tombehler@...

 

Thank you!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler From Michigan

 

 

 

 

Chris:

 

I understand the laptop layout option, but have a question.

 

Say if you want to emulate the insert numpad 2 Jaws reading command to read a document, how would you do this on a tablet with no numpad?

 

The other issue is that on the Surface Pro I’m looking at, the insert key is a toggle with the delete key being the other function.

 

Just trying to make a cognitive connection here.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2023 7:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Some Questions On Jaws-Compatible Windows Tablets

 

Jaws has  different keyboard layouts.  The one we all use is the desktop layout.  The laptop layout is designed to use the caps lock as the modifier and doesn't use the numeric pad.
The setting can be found under options/basic

On 1/27/2023 22:27, Tom Behler wrote:

If you can’t use the numbers on the top row to emulate Jaws commands, how do you do basic Jaws functions?

 

The answer might be obvious, but it is not clear to  me right now.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2023 9:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Some Questions On Jaws-Compatible Windows Tablets

 

Hello.

Well, I can give a couple of ideas.

First of all, windows 11 really isn't much different from 10.  I know they moved the location of the start button, but Jaws doesn't care.  Other than that, I can't think of a single difference I've run into, and I have both 11 and 10 machines around here.  As far as the keyboard goes, you could always use the jaws laptop layout; you won't likely be able to use the top numbers along with a function key to emulate jaws commands.

As far as hardware spec goes, it sounds fine to me, I'd probably opt for less processor and more storage, but I tend to want to take it all with me, no matter how big all is.

CH

On 1/27/2023 18:57, Tom Behler wrote:

Hello, everyone.

 

I’m in the market for a Jaws-compatible Windows Tablet that I can take with me for note-taking, checking e-mail, and browsing the web when traveling.

 

I do not expect a tablet to be nearly as robust and functional as the Windows Dell Laptop that I currently use as my main computer, but would like to have something adequate for the basic functions I described above.

 

I currently am using Windows 10 as my operating system, and fully realize that any new tablet I purchase today will contain Windows 11.

 

I have Microsoft 365, and the latest version of Jaws 2023.  I also use Google Chrome as my main internet browser.

 

I am looking for a tablet that will have a usable keyboard, although I realize that this may not involve a number pad.  I do have a Logitec bluetooth keyboard that I can use if needed.

 

I’ve done a fair amount of research already, andhave come up with the following possibility:

 

Surface Pro 8

13 inch touch screen

Intel 11th Generation Core

i7-1185G7

16GB memory

256 GB total storage

 

On sale for $959.99

 

 

This might be a bit of overkill in terms of Jaws requirements, but I’d rather have more than I need, than purchase something that would be only marginally suitable.

 

I’d be interested if this sounds like a reasonable choice for what I’m needing.

 

And, I have a few more questions:

 

1.  Since this tablet has no numpad, how do you invoke the usual Jaws reading commands?  Can you use the insert key, followed by  the regular number on the main number row?  I think the insert key is invoked by by using the function and dlete key together.

 

2.  I suspect there’s no application key on the main keyboard;  so, do you simply use shift F10?

 

3.  Since there’s no standard headphone jack, and, I believe, only one USB port, would I be best to purchase a set of bluetooth earphones so I can take notes in a public place such as an airport waiting area if needed?  If so, what bluetooth headphones are recommended?

 

4.  I have changed operating systems before, and jus wonder how much of a learning curve is involved with moving from Windows 10 to Windows 11?

 

5.  Is there anything else I should be thinking about?

 

Since this thread might not be of interest to many people on the list, I’d ask that you please respond privately so as to minimize list traffic.

 

My private e-mail is:

 

tombehler@...

 

Thank you!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler From Michigan

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2023 11:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Some Questions On Jaws-Compatible Windows Tablets

 

The laptop layout uses the caps lock for insert, and different commands in many cases.  Your read document command is called "say all" and is caps-lock plus a or cabslock+down arrow.

Yes, you'd have to memorize a whole nother set of commands.  I'd rather carry around a laptop with a real keyboard; nothing made today is as heavy as the old Toshiba T1100+ I carried in college.

CH

Chris:

 

I understand the laptop layout option, but have a question.

 

Say if you want to emulate the insert numpad 2 Jaws reading command to read a document, how would you do this on a tablet with no numpad?

 

The other issue is that on the Surface Pro I’m looking at, the insert key is a toggle with the delete key being the other function.

 

Just trying to make a cognitive connection here.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2023 7:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Some Questions On Jaws-Compatible Windows Tablets

 

Jaws has  different keyboard layouts.  The one we all use is the desktop layout.  The laptop layout is designed to use the caps lock as the modifier and doesn't use the numeric pad.
The setting can be found under options/basic

On 1/27/2023 22:27, Tom Behler wrote:

If you can’t use the numbers on the top row to emulate Jaws commands, how do you do basic Jaws functions?

 

The answer might be obvious, but it is not clear to  me right now.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2023 9:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Some Questions On Jaws-Compatible Windows Tablets

 

Hello.

Well, I can give a couple of ideas.

First of all, windows 11 really isn't much different from 10.  I know they moved the location of the start button, but Jaws doesn't care.  Other than that, I can't think of a single difference I've run into, and I have both 11 and 10 machines around here.  As far as the keyboard goes, you could always use the jaws laptop layout; you won't likely be able to use the top numbers along with a function key to emulate jaws commands.

As far as hardware spec goes, it sounds fine to me, I'd probably opt for less processor and more storage, but I tend to want to take it all with me, no matter how big all is.

CH

On 1/27/2023 18:57, Tom Behler wrote:

Hello, everyone.

 

I’m in the market for a Jaws-compatible Windows Tablet that I can take with me for note-taking, checking e-mail, and browsing the web when traveling.

 

I do not expect a tablet to be nearly as robust and functional as the Windows Dell Laptop that I currently use as my main computer, but would like to have something adequate for the basic functions I described above.

 

I currently am using Windows 10 as my operating system, and fully realize that any new tablet I purchase today will contain Windows 11.

 

I have Microsoft 365, and the latest version of Jaws 2023.  I also use Google Chrome as my main internet browser.

 

I am looking for a tablet that will have a usable keyboard, although I realize that this may not involve a number pad.  I do have a Logitec bluetooth keyboard that I can use if needed.

 

I’ve done a fair amount of research already, andhave come up with the following possibility:

 

Surface Pro 8

13 inch touch screen

Intel 11th Generation Core

i7-1185G7

16GB memory

256 GB total storage

 

On sale for $959.99

 

 

This might be a bit of overkill in terms of Jaws requirements, but I’d rather have more than I need, than purchase something that would be only marginally suitable.

 

I’d be interested if this sounds like a reasonable choice for what I’m needing.

 

And, I have a few more questions:

 

1.  Since this tablet has no numpad, how do you invoke the usual Jaws reading commands?  Can you use the insert key, followed by  the regular number on the main number row?  I think the insert key is invoked by by using the function and dlete key together.

 

2.  I suspect there’s no application key on the main keyboard;  so, do you simply use shift F10?

 

3.  Since there’s no standard headphone jack, and, I believe, only one USB port, would I be best to purchase a set of bluetooth earphones so I can take notes in a public place such as an airport waiting area if needed?  If so, what bluetooth headphones are recommended?

 

4.  I have changed operating systems before, and jus wonder how much of a learning curve is involved with moving from Windows 10 to Windows 11?

 

5.  Is there anything else I should be thinking about?

 

Since this thread might not be of interest to many people on the list, I’d ask that you please respond privately so as to minimize list traffic.

 

My private e-mail is:

 

tombehler@...

 

Thank you!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler From Michigan

 

 

 

 

 

Chris:

 

Do you, or does anyone else have that list of commands?

 

I’m sure there’s a link to it on the FS web site somewhere, but I’m not exactly sure what I’d be looking for.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2023 11:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Some Questions On Jaws-Compatible Windows Tablets

 

The laptop layout uses the caps lock for insert, and different commands in many cases.  Your read document command is called "say all" and is caps-lock plus a or cabslock+down arrow.

Yes, you'd have to memorize a whole nother set of commands.  I'd rather carry around a laptop with a real keyboard; nothing made today is as heavy as the old Toshiba T1100+ I carried in college.

CH

On 1/28/2023 09:55, Tom Behler wrote:

Chris:

 

I understand the laptop layout option, but have a question.

 

Say if you want to emulate the insert numpad 2 Jaws reading command to read a document, how would you do this on a tablet with no numpad?

 

The other issue is that on the Surface Pro I’m looking at, the insert key is a toggle with the delete key being the other function.

 

Just trying to make a cognitive connection here.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2023 7:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Some Questions On Jaws-Compatible Windows Tablets

 

Jaws has  different keyboard layouts.  The one we all use is the desktop layout.  The laptop layout is designed to use the caps lock as the modifier and doesn't use the numeric pad.
The setting can be found under options/basic

On 1/27/2023 22:27, Tom Behler wrote:

If you can’t use the numbers on the top row to emulate Jaws commands, how do you do basic Jaws functions?

 

The answer might be obvious, but it is not clear to  me right now.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2023 9:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Some Questions On Jaws-Compatible Windows Tablets

 

Hello.

Well, I can give a couple of ideas.

First of all, windows 11 really isn't much different from 10.  I know they moved the location of the start button, but Jaws doesn't care.  Other than that, I can't think of a single difference I've run into, and I have both 11 and 10 machines around here.  As far as the keyboard goes, you could always use the jaws laptop layout; you won't likely be able to use the top numbers along with a function key to emulate jaws commands.

As far as hardware spec goes, it sounds fine to me, I'd probably opt for less processor and more storage, but I tend to want to take it all with me, no matter how big all is.

CH

On 1/27/2023 18:57, Tom Behler wrote:

Hello, everyone.

 

I’m in the market for a Jaws-compatible Windows Tablet that I can take with me for note-taking, checking e-mail, and browsing the web when traveling.

 

I do not expect a tablet to be nearly as robust and functional as the Windows Dell Laptop that I currently use as my main computer, but would like to have something adequate for the basic functions I described above.

 

I currently am using Windows 10 as my operating system, and fully realize that any new tablet I purchase today will contain Windows 11.

 

I have Microsoft 365, and the latest version of Jaws 2023.  I also use Google Chrome as my main internet browser.

 

I am looking for a tablet that will have a usable keyboard, although I realize that this may not involve a number pad.  I do have a Logitec bluetooth keyboard that I can use if needed.

 

I’ve done a fair amount of research already, andhave come up with the following possibility:

 

Surface Pro 8

13 inch touch screen

Intel 11th Generation Core

i7-1185G7

16GB memory

256 GB total storage

 

On sale for $959.99

 

 

This might be a bit of overkill in terms of Jaws requirements, but I’d rather have more than I need, than purchase something that would be only marginally suitable.

 

I’d be interested if this sounds like a reasonable choice for what I’m needing.

 

And, I have a few more questions:

 

1.  Since this tablet has no numpad, how do you invoke the usual Jaws reading commands?  Can you use the insert key, followed by  the regular number on the main number row?  I think the insert key is invoked by by using the function and dlete key together.

 

2.  I suspect there’s no application key on the main keyboard;  so, do you simply use shift F10?

 

3.  Since there’s no standard headphone jack, and, I believe, only one USB port, would I be best to purchase a set of bluetooth earphones so I can take notes in a public place such as an airport waiting area if needed?  If so, what bluetooth headphones are recommended?

 

4.  I have changed operating systems before, and jus wonder how much of a learning curve is involved with moving from Windows 10 to Windows 11?

 

5.  Is there anything else I should be thinking about?

 

Since this thread might not be of interest to many people on the list, I’d ask that you please respond privately so as to minimize list traffic.

 

My private e-mail is:

 

tombehler@...

 

Thank you!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler From Michigan

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2023 2:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Some Questions On Jaws-Compatible Windows Tablets

 

It should all be on this page, the three column tables have both desktop and laptop versions.
https://www.freedomscientific.com/training/jaws/hotkeys/

Chris:

 

Do you, or does anyone else have that list of commands?

 

I’m sure there’s a link to it on the FS web site somewhere, but I’m not exactly sure what I’d be looking for.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2023 11:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Some Questions On Jaws-Compatible Windows Tablets

 

The laptop layout uses the caps lock for insert, and different commands in many cases.  Your read document command is called "say all" and is caps-lock plus a or cabslock+down arrow.

Yes, you'd have to memorize a whole nother set of commands.  I'd rather carry around a laptop with a real keyboard; nothing made today is as heavy as the old Toshiba T1100+ I carried in college.

CH

On 1/28/2023 09:55, Tom Behler wrote:

Chris:

 

I understand the laptop layout option, but have a question.

 

Say if you want to emulate the insert numpad 2 Jaws reading command to read a document, how would you do this on a tablet with no numpad?

 

The other issue is that on the Surface Pro I’m looking at, the insert key is a toggle with the delete key being the other function.

 

Just trying to make a cognitive connection here.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2023 7:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Some Questions On Jaws-Compatible Windows Tablets

 

Jaws has  different keyboard layouts.  The one we all use is the desktop layout.  The laptop layout is designed to use the caps lock as the modifier and doesn't use the numeric pad.
The setting can be found under options/basic

On 1/27/2023 22:27, Tom Behler wrote:

If you can’t use the numbers on the top row to emulate Jaws commands, how do you do basic Jaws functions?

 

The answer might be obvious, but it is not clear to  me right now.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2023 9:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Some Questions On Jaws-Compatible Windows Tablets

 

Hello.

Well, I can give a couple of ideas.

First of all, windows 11 really isn't much different from 10.  I know they moved the location of the start button, but Jaws doesn't care.  Other than that, I can't think of a single difference I've run into, and I have both 11 and 10 machines around here.  As far as the keyboard goes, you could always use the jaws laptop layout; you won't likely be able to use the top numbers along with a function key to emulate jaws commands.

As far as hardware spec goes, it sounds fine to me, I'd probably opt for less processor and more storage, but I tend to want to take it all with me, no matter how big all is.

CH

On 1/27/2023 18:57, Tom Behler wrote:

Hello, everyone.

 

I’m in the market for a Jaws-compatible Windows Tablet that I can take with me for note-taking, checking e-mail, and browsing the web when traveling.

 

I do not expect a tablet to be nearly as robust and functional as the Windows Dell Laptop that I currently use as my main computer, but would like to have something adequate for the basic functions I described above.

 

I currently am using Windows 10 as my operating system, and fully realize that any new tablet I purchase today will contain Windows 11.

 

I have Microsoft 365, and the latest version of Jaws 2023.  I also use Google Chrome as my main internet browser.

 

I am looking for a tablet that will have a usable keyboard, although I realize that this may not involve a number pad.  I do have a Logitec bluetooth keyboard that I can use if needed.

 

I’ve done a fair amount of research already, andhave come up with the following possibility:

 

Surface Pro 8

13 inch touch screen

Intel 11th Generation Core

i7-1185G7

16GB memory

256 GB total storage

 

On sale for $959.99

 

 

This might be a bit of overkill in terms of Jaws requirements, but I’d rather have more than I need, than purchase something that would be only marginally suitable.

 

I’d be interested if this sounds like a reasonable choice for what I’m needing.

 

And, I have a few more questions:

 

1.  Since this tablet has no numpad, how do you invoke the usual Jaws reading commands?  Can you use the insert key, followed by  the regular number on the main number row?  I think the insert key is invoked by by using the function and dlete key together.

 

2.  I suspect there’s no application key on the main keyboard;  so, do you simply use shift F10?

 

3.  Since there’s no standard headphone jack, and, I believe, only one USB port, would I be best to purchase a set of bluetooth earphones so I can take notes in a public place such as an airport waiting area if needed?  If so, what bluetooth headphones are recommended?

 

4.  I have changed operating systems before, and jus wonder how much of a learning curve is involved with moving from Windows 10 to Windows 11?

 

5.  Is there anything else I should be thinking about?

 

Since this thread might not be of interest to many people on the list, I’d ask that you please respond privately so as to minimize list traffic.

 

My private e-mail is:

 

tombehler@...

 

Thank you!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler From Michigan