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shut down sound for windows 10


Bill White
 

Hi, Don. First, the Startup sound does return if Fast Startup is checked, but not the shutdown sound.

Second, Do you get other system sounds, once you are logged on? In other words, do you get a ding sound if you press semicolon when on your desktop?

You must not only check Fast Startup to get a Startup sound. You must also check the box for Startup sound in your Sound settings in the Sounds tab.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 10:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

Someone said if you uncheck fast startup in the power settings the
startup and shutdown sound options return. On my system they do not.
I wonder how many people that have fast startup enabled know that this
does not do the same as a restart? If you have fast startup enabled you
should on a regular basis do a system restart. I have fast startup
disabled as I think a full shutdown gives you better overall
performance. Can't think that a few more seconds for bootup is a
terrible thing.


 

Hi,
No, startup sound won't play if fast startup is enabled, as Windows will "resume" from hybrid hibernation if this is checked.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 11:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

Hi, Don. First, the Startup sound does return if Fast Startup is checked, but not the shutdown sound.

Second, Do you get other system sounds, once you are logged on? In other words, do you get a ding sound if you press semicolon when on your desktop?

You must not only check Fast Startup to get a Startup sound. You must also check the box for Startup sound in your Sound settings in the Sounds tab.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 10:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

Someone said if you uncheck fast startup in the power settings the startup and shutdown sound options return. On my system they do not.
I wonder how many people that have fast startup enabled know that this does not do the same as a restart? If you have fast startup enabled you should on a regular basis do a system restart. I have fast startup disabled as I think a full shutdown gives you better overall performance. Can't think that a few more seconds for bootup is a terrible thing.


Don H
 

People are wanting a shutdown sound not a start up sound. I am only saying that disabling the fast startup does not give you a shutdown sound. I can see a usefulness for a shutdown sound but I can't say it has been a real issue for me.

On 7/31/2018 1:50 PM, Bill White wrote:
Hi, Don. First, the Startup sound does return if Fast Startup is checked, but not the shutdown sound.
Second, Do you get other system sounds, once you are logged on? In other words, do you get a ding sound if you press semicolon when on your desktop?
You must not only check Fast Startup to get a Startup sound. You must also check the box for Startup sound in your Sound settings in the Sounds tab.
Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 10:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10
Someone said if you uncheck fast startup in the power settings the
startup and shutdown sound options return. On my system they do not.
I wonder how many people that have fast startup enabled know that this
does not do the same as a restart? If you have fast startup enabled you
should on a regular basis do a system restart. I have fast startup
disabled as I think a full shutdown gives you better overall
performance. Can't think that a few more seconds for bootup is a
terrible thing.


Steve Matzura
 

It's stupid because that's not how any other sound in the Windows environment is played, so why should this one be treated differently? And what happens if the task manager service terminates before the sound gets a chance to play?

On 7/31/2018 1:26 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Steve Matzura wrote:
This is the stupidest solution I've ever encountered,but apparently it's the only one.
I don't know why, in particular, you consider it stupid as this is pretty much how it's implemented "under the hood" on older versions of Windows, but the task is shipped with the OS and you don't know it's there.

This is also the solution I've posted and noted that it is not 100% reliable.  It seems to work perfectly on certain machines and not on others, and I believe a lot of that is secondary to exactly when the task gets triggered, or doesn't get triggered, during the shutdown process.  There are lots of factors that can affect this.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill



Bill White
 

You're right. I should have said, uncheck fast startup, and check startup sound in Sound Settings.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 11:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

Hi,
No, startup sound won't play if fast startup is enabled, as Windows will "resume" from hybrid hibernation if this is checked.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 11:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

Hi, Don. First, the Startup sound does return if Fast Startup is checked, but not the shutdown sound.

Second, Do you get other system sounds, once you are logged on? In other words, do you get a ding sound if you press semicolon when on your desktop?

You must not only check Fast Startup to get a Startup sound. You must also check the box for Startup sound in your Sound settings in the Sounds tab.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 10:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

Someone said if you uncheck fast startup in the power settings the startup and shutdown sound options return. On my system they do not.
I wonder how many people that have fast startup enabled know that this does not do the same as a restart? If you have fast startup enabled you should on a regular basis do a system restart. I have fast startup disabled as I think a full shutdown gives you better overall performance. Can't think that a few more seconds for bootup is a terrible thing.


 

, Mario,

            It's an XML file, hence the extension.  It can be viewed with Notepad if desired, or even MS-Word, as XML is at its heart a formatted text layout.

            Its sole purpose is to select an existing Windows ring sound that I've not seen used elsewhere unless someone selects it elsewhere and using it for the sound to be played when the event is triggered.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


 

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 02:19 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Attitudes matter because how users and developers understand accessibility and needs of customers will shape how accessible the end product will be. Technologies matter because without means of delivering on that attitudes, attempts at convincing the public and developers won’t be that strong. Thus, to me, lack of shutdown sounds is a small thing compared to attitudes of some developers who think it is okay to just design beautiful interfaces without giving thoughts to accessibility, and screen reader vendors are not exempt from this. 
Amen!!   There really are important battles to be fought and won.  The presence or absence of a shutdown sound is definitely not one of them.  It's very nice to have, and I've made a major effort to find a way to provide one, but in the end it is a triviality for the very reason you state.  People were used to it, but that doesn't make it essential.  There are plenty of ways, most of which have now been mentioned repeatedly, to double check that a computer is powered down sans any system sound to indicate it's at least trying to get there.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Mario
 

after activating the link for the PlayShutdownSound.xml, I selected from
the first dash to the end of the commands, copied and pasted it in to
notepad, and saved it as PlayShutdownSound.xml. is this what to do, and
is there anything I have to do in notepad other than saving it?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, Jul 31, 2018 3:51 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: shut down sound for windows 10

, Mario,

            It's an XML file, hence the extension.  It can be viewed
with Notepad if desired, or even MS-Word, as XML is at its heart a
formatted text layout.

            Its sole purpose is to select an existing Windows ring
sound that I've not seen used elsewhere unless someone selects it
elsewhere and using it for the sound to be played when the event is
triggered.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

   The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in
the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Ashleigh Piccinino
 

 Normally, you should be able to hear the motor in your computer stop as it shuts down. Can you do this? If not, you should be able to see the light on your monitor go out. 


Maria Campbell
 

Um, can't see light.  Don't hear fan on laptop.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 7/31/2018 6:28 PM, Ashleigh Piccinino wrote:

 Normally, you should be able to hear the motor in your computer stop as it shuts down. Can you do this? If not, you should be able to see the light on your monitor go out. 



Don H
 

It is possible to creat a batch file to shutdown Windows 10 as well as a way to play a sound. However if something is preventing Windows from shutting down I am not sure the batch file would be any better.

On 7/31/2018 5:40 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
Um, can't see light.  Don't hear fan on laptop.
Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com
"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis
On 7/31/2018 6:28 PM, Ashleigh Piccinino wrote:
 Normally, you should be able to hear the motor in your computer stop as it shuts down. Can you do this? If not, you should be able to see the light on your monitor go out.

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>;


Don Walls
 

Brian, David requested that you top post.  Get with the program.
 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 12:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10
 
On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 02:19 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Attitudes matter because how users and developers understand accessibility and needs of customers will shape how accessible the end product will be. Technologies matter because without means of delivering on that attitudes, attempts at convincing the public and developers won’t be that strong. Thus, to me, lack of shutdown sounds is a small thing compared to attitudes of some developers who think it is okay to just design beautiful interfaces without giving thoughts to accessibility, and screen reader vendors are not exempt from this.
Amen!!   There really are important battles to be fought and won.  The presence or absence of a shutdown sound is definitely not one of them.  It's very nice to have, and I've made a major effort to find a way to provide one, but in the end it is a triviality for the very reason you state.  People were used to it, but that doesn't make it essential.  There are plenty of ways, most of which have now been mentioned repeatedly, to double check that a computer is powered down sans any system sound to indicate it's at least trying to get there.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Ashleigh Piccinino
 

Just bought my suggestion would help.


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Don H <lmddh50@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 6:43:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10
 
It is possible to creat a batch file to shutdown Windows 10 as well as a
way to play a sound.  However if something is preventing Windows from
shutting down I am not sure the batch file would be any better.

On 7/31/2018 5:40 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
> Um, can't see light.  Don't hear fan on laptop.
>
>
> Maria Campbell
> lucky1inct@...
>
> "Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
> --St. Francis
>
> On 7/31/2018 6:28 PM, Ashleigh Piccinino wrote:
>>  Normally, you should be able to hear the motor in your computer stop
>> as it shuts down. Can you do this? If not, you should be able to see
>> the light on your monitor go out.
>>
>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2Fo0ukef&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C88511076a1da453f425808d5f73f705d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636686774188739129&amp;sdata=JwYU0%2FjlMfTYzpuCxyiKoTdPa2wdjlmBZ0uziHin8tY%3D&amp;reserved=0>
>
>





Ashleigh Piccinino
 

I too have held the power button down on my computer. However, it messes with the hard drive. I wouldn’t do that if I were you. I will get cited assistance to see if your computer has shut down. Better to be safe than sorry


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 12:22:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10
 
On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 12:16 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:
But without a shutdown sound, you can't confirm that the shutdown procedure has even been initiated in the first place.
If you choose the power menu, shutdown option, you can be assured that the shutdown procedure has been initiated.  It may hang at times, as you've already indicated, but it's initiated.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


 

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 10:15 PM, Don Walls wrote:
Brian, David requested that you top post.  Get with the program.
David does not run this group nor dictate to me my posting style.  I suggest you both learn to deal or learn to mute.  My posting record stands very well on its own and I do not have to comport to the style anyone else prefers.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Alan Robbins
 

Don,

 

I think this is the wrong JAWS list. I believe the one you are referring to is the Jaws-users-list I think Brian unsubscribed over there.

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 10:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

 

Brian, David requested that you top post.  Get with the program.

 

From: Brian Vogel

Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 12:54 PM

Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

 

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 02:19 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Attitudes matter because how users and developers understand accessibility and needs of customers will shape how accessible the end product will be. Technologies matter because without means of delivering on that attitudes, attempts at convincing the public and developers won’t be that strong. Thus, to me, lack of shutdown sounds is a small thing compared to attitudes of some developers who think it is okay to just design beautiful interfaces without giving thoughts to accessibility, and screen reader vendors are not exempt from this.

Amen!!   There really are important battles to be fought and won.  The presence or absence of a shutdown sound is definitely not one of them.  It's very nice to have, and I've made a major effort to find a way to provide one, but in the end it is a triviality for the very reason you state.  People were used to it, but that doesn't make it essential.  There are plenty of ways, most of which have now been mentioned repeatedly, to double check that a computer is powered down sans any system sound to indicate it's at least trying to get there.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


 

What exactly do you mean by "normal stuff"?
I also have pointed out that in some ways Windows 10 is a step back for accessibility especially with legacy applications where in Windows 7 the Jaws cursor could often be used to great effect. However, let's face it, accessibility has never received as much attention by these large organisations (Microsoft, Apple, Google, Facebook, Amazon etc.) as it is getting now and over the last 6 or 8 years. Apple started the ball rolling with Voiceover and while Microsoft the corporation is neither blind nor sighted since it doesn't have eyes, there are plenty of blind employees who are part of Microsoft and who probably do their best to push accessibility forward. Why a few people get their panties in such a wad over this shutdown sound is a mystery to me especially since instructions as to how to get it back have been posted and Brian has even posted his registry file which does it all for you. The result may not always be reliable for everybody, but those who want it should at least try it. Furthermore, as far as knowing whether a computer has shut down is not necessarily determined by its shutdown sound. I had situations where in Windows 7 the shutdown sound played and then a sighted employee told me my computer screen displayed some message which required action and the computer had not shut down. As Brian said, if you are that concerned and require the feedback and if you don't have a DVD drive, then plug in a USB stick and see if the computer plays any sounds.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of cecropia64
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 8:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

Problem is that Microsoft isn't blind.  They really have no idea how hard it can be for us.  If they did I think they'd put more effort into it.  I know they have come a long way but it would be nice if they made the normal stuff more useable as well, not just their own stuff.


On 7/31/2018 11:18 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:

MS doesn't give a rat's ass what the public thinks.  If it did, it
would have replaced the much-despised ribbon menu structure with the
more convenient and less cumbersome classic menu structure that most
of its customers, sighted and blind alike,  prefer. On the contrary,
MS seems to go out of its way to frustrate and tick off its customers
just to prove that they can do anything they damn well please and get
away with it.

Gerald



-----Original Message----- From: Aleeha Dudley
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 10:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

Hi all,
I am a very infrequent poster on this list, but I needed to contribute
on this one.
The lack of a shutdown sound does NOT indicate a lack of accessibility
You could always use a light detector app to determine if the screen
is off, or place your ear close to the computer to hear the different
sounds stop. Systems change. That’s a fact. The Mac, for example, does
not make the startup sound on the new machines. It’s sad, but it’s
true. In an age where people want faster operating systems and less
noise from machines, Microsoft has to go with what the public wants,
not a niche market. If you really think that Microsoft or any other
company is stepping back in terms of accessibility, I’d strongly
encourage you to do a bit of research into current accessibility
developments first.
Aleeha
On Jul 31, 2018, at 9:42 AM, David Ingram <dingram269@earthlink.net>
wrote:

hi list members, what version of jaws are being used currently? If
the answers is jaws 2018 or jaws 17 then you should hear all system
sounds. I'currently using jaws version 16.  This means that if you're
using jaws 17 or 2018 with windows 10 version 1803 you should hear
all system soundsI'm going to check to see whether windows 10 version
1803 does the same with firefox?


-----Original Message-----
From: cecropia64 <cecropia64@att.net>
Sent: Jul 31, 2018 9:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

Maybe.  But that's what these lists are for.  To ask questions and
get answers if there are any to be had.


On 7/31/2018 10:17 AM, Alan Robbins via Groups.Io wrote:
I wish I had a dollar for every time this thread starts up on this
list as well as other lists. It seems to me there must be a reason
Microsoft stopped having a shut down sound. Has anyone ever taken
the time to research this or ask Microsoft? It would seem to me to
be energy better spend than repeatedly asking this question on
email lists.

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 9:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

I disagree with that statement about Microsoft not caring about
accessibility. If this were so then why the major and continueing
improvements of Narrator and if this statement was true then Apple
also does not care about accessibility (which of course is not
true) because the iPhone makes neither a startup sound nor a
shutdown sound.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald
Levy
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 3:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10


Taking away the shutdown sound in Windows 10 proves once again that
MS really does not careabout accessibility, contrary to what some
list members believe to the contrary. What possible advantage is
there to having no audible means of confirming that your computer
has completely shut down? On some laptops, the cooling fan is so
weak that it is difficult to impossible to tell whether it is
running just by feeling or placing your ear next to the case, so
this may not be a reliable substitute for the shutdown sound.
Maybe someone who is smarter than me can explain how eliminating
the shutdown sound is an "improvement".

Gerald



Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Mario
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 8:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

in the meantime, it would be appreciated, I think by most blind
and/or sighted users, to send feedback to Microsoft pleeding that
the familiar Windows 7 shutdown sound be reenabled and that any wav
file can be assigned as it was possible with earlier versions of
Windows, i.e. via the sounds applett of the control panel.
there might be a chance MS would consider it if there were
compelling reasons such as for blind users who choose to completely
shutdown their system and are using a laptop (or desktop) that does
not have any means of testing to see if the system is truely
shutdown. the more the reasons that are reasonable, the better the
chance MS might do it. no?




-------- Original Message --------
From: cecropia64 [mailto:cecropia64@att.net]
Sent: Monday, Jul 30, 2018 7:35 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: shut down sound for windows 10

yup, me too.  I'm gonna use Windows 7 until Microsoft says "no more".
But by then I hope to have learned enough about Windows 10 to at
least use it without too much of an issue.  We shall see about that.


On 7/30/2018 6:24 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:

So how can you tell for sure that your computer has shut down
completely if there is no sound like in Windows 7 and earlier? This
is yet another reason why I'm in no hurry to upgrade to Windows 10.

Gerald



-----Original Message----- From: Pastor Gil Pries
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 5:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

With Windows 10, there is no way to assign a shutdown sound.

Pastor Gil

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teresa
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 1:56 PM
To: JFW <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: shut down sound for windows 10

good afternoon list: how do I assign a sound when windows 10 shuts
down?
Thanks to all in advance.














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What exactly makes this a "stupid" solution?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 9:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

This is the stupidest solution I've ever encountered,but apparently it's the only one.
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/94891-play-sound-shutdown-windows-10-a.html


On 7/30/2018 4:56 PM, Teresa wrote:
good afternoon list: how do I assign a sound when windows 10 shuts down? Thanks to all in advance.



 

Hi  Aleeha,

 

I have seen posts on Viphone where people complained that theire is no startup sound on the iPhone, don’t think I ever seen somebody wanting a shutdown sound, however. Of course it’s easy on the iPhone to check and in any ways, I never have seen any of my iPhones not shut down after I double tapped the “Power off” button. To check you can just wait 6 or 8 seconds and then flick the mute switch, if the iPhone was not shutdown you would feel the little vibration. In any case, maybe with the iPhone people don’t complain because very few people shut it down for any extended period of time whereas desktops and PC’s are still shutdown by many people on a regular bases instead of simply putting them to sleep. nobody

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Aleeha Dudley
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 10:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

 

What about the fact that the iPhone and Mac don’t and have never had, shut down sounds? Why are we not bashing Apple as well? The point that has been made that Microsoft should focus on more important accessibility features rather than focusing on the shut down sound. The shut down sound is not an accessibility feature. And you’re right: they’re spending more time on accessibility features than worrying about a petty little concern that doesn’t even conclusively indicate anything. The computer is not shut down when you hear the sound. It is only shut down when the fans and hard drive stop.

Aleeha

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 12:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

 

Someone said if you uncheck fast startup in the power settings the

startup and shutdown sound options return.  On my system they do not.

I wonder how many people that have fast startup enabled know that this

does not do the same as a restart?  If you have fast startup enabled you

should on a regular basis do a system restart.  I have fast startup

disabled as I think a full shutdown gives you better overall

performance.  Can't think that a few more seconds for bootup is a

terrible thing.

 

 

 

 


 

Hi Ashleigh,

 

First of all, you must be partially sighted, but is it so hard to imagine all of us fully blind users who simply have no way to see any lights go out or not go out?

Also, if you use a desktop the monitor might go black, but any LED lights remain on since the monitor has it’s own power. I assume you would see the monitor going black, but once again a completely blind person of course will not.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 3:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

 

 Normally, you should be able to hear the motor in your computer stop as it shuts down. Can you do this? If not, you should be able to see the light on your monitor go out.