moderated Search Everything from voidtools.com - Lite version is NOT accessible


 

From the FAQ page, which has a dedicated answer to "what's lite?"  Note well the last sentence.

What is the Lite version of "Everything"?

The Lite version of Everything is the same as the normal multilingual version of Everything, except it has some features removed:



The Command line interface / ES will not work with the Lite version.

The SDK will not work with the Lite version.

Windows accessibility features and screen readers will not work with the Lite version.

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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

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Mario
 

Brian, thanks for the heads up.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com]
Subject: Search Everything from voidtools.com - Lite version is NOT accessible
Date: Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 4:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
From the FAQ page, which has a dedicated answer to "what's lite?"  Note
well the last sentence.


/What is the Lite version of "Everything"?/

/The Lite version of Everything is the same as the normal multilingual
version of Everything, except it has some features removed:/


*

/Removed ETP/FTP Server <https://voidtools.com/support/everything/etp>./

*

/Removed HTTP Server <https://voidtools.com/support/everything/http>./

*

/Removed IPC <https://voidtools.com/support/everything/sdk/ipc>./


/The Command line interface / ES will not work with the Lite version./

/The SDK will not work with the Lite version./

*/Windows accessibility features and screen readers will not work with
the Lite version./*

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Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

*/It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between
thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly
different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power
to connect the seemingly unconnected./*

    ~ William Plomer


Steve Nutt
 

Wow, that last sentence is a bit naughty isn’t it?

 

That is direct discrimination surely?

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 27 July 2021 21:24
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Search Everything from voidtools.com - Lite version is NOT accessible

 

From the FAQ page, which has a dedicated answer to "what's lite?"  Note well the last sentence.

What is the Lite version of "Everything"?

The Lite version of Everything is the same as the normal multilingual version of Everything, except it has some features removed:

 

 

The Command line interface / ES will not work with the Lite version.

The SDK will not work with the Lite version.

Windows accessibility features and screen readers will not work with the Lite version.

--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


 

On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 03:26 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
That is direct discrimination surely?
-
No, it's not.  You just use the full version.

If you strip out the underpinnings needed for the screen reader to make an ultra-light-weight version of something, that can hardly be called discrimination against the blind.  The accessible version, which is actually the one most used, is fully accessible.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


Steve Nutt
 

Sorry I don’t understand.

 

I thought it said that the light or free version doesn’t have screen reader functionality, but the paid for version does.

 

Because a blind person can’t actually see the screen, I would suggest that “making” them pay for accessibility just to use the program is a form of discrimination.

 

I’ll get off my high horse now.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 28 July 2021 14:09
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Search Everything from voidtools.com - Lite version is NOT accessible

 

On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 03:26 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:

That is direct discrimination surely?

-
No, it's not.  You just use the full version.

If you strip out the underpinnings needed for the screen reader to make an ultra-light-weight version of something, that can hardly be called discrimination against the blind.  The accessible version, which is actually the one most used, is fully accessible.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


 

On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 10:44 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
I thought it said that the light or free version doesn’t have screen reader functionality, but the paid for version does.
-
Steve,

The site for Search Everything, https://voidtools.com, has been offered many times.  There is no such thing as a paid version.  Regardless of which edition or bit-depth you wish to download, it is freeware.

The lite version is nothing but the full version stripped of a number of things that many likely never use, and where absolute "lightness of being" is paramount.  Even the full version is incredibly resource light.

Thus, trying to claim this is discrimination, of any sort, is ludicrous.  If you need screen reader support, the full version has it at no cost.  If you don't need screen reader support, and don't want a couple of the features that the full version has, there is a lite version.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


Steve Nutt
 

OK fair enough. I thought we were talking about paid and free apps.

 

My apologies.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 28 July 2021 15:49
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Search Everything from voidtools.com - Lite version is NOT accessible

 

On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 10:44 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:

I thought it said that the light or free version doesn’t have screen reader functionality, but the paid for version does.

-
Steve,

The site for Search Everything, https://voidtools.com, has been offered many times.  There is no such thing as a paid version.  Regardless of which edition or bit-depth you wish to download, it is freeware.

The lite version is nothing but the full version stripped of a number of things that many likely never use, and where absolute "lightness of being" is paramount.  Even the full version is incredibly resource light.

Thus, trying to claim this is discrimination, of any sort, is ludicrous.  If you need screen reader support, the full version has it at no cost.  If you don't need screen reader support, and don't want a couple of the features that the full version has, there is a lite version.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


Bill White
 

Hi, Steve. None of the versions require purchase. The light version just doesn't require as much space on disk or in memory. You can download and install the full 64-bit or 32-bit versions without purchase. They are all free.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 7:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Search Everything from voidtools.com - Lite version is NOT accessible

 

Sorry I don’t understand.

 

I thought it said that the light or free version doesn’t have screen reader functionality, but the paid for version does.

 

Because a blind person can’t actually see the screen, I would suggest that “making” them pay for accessibility just to use the program is a form of discrimination.

 

I’ll get off my high horse now.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 28 July 2021 14:09
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Search Everything from voidtools.com - Lite version is NOT accessible

 

On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 03:26 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:

That is direct discrimination surely?

-
No, it's not.  You just use the full version.

If you strip out the underpinnings needed for the screen reader to make an ultra-light-weight version of something, that can hardly be called discrimination against the blind.  The accessible version, which is actually the one most used, is fully accessible.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer