Locked Scanning lottery tickets


Gene Warner
 

I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the numbers myself and am not having much success.

Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can do it?

Thanks!
Gene...


K0LNY
 

Hi Gene,
I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers that I
have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska lottery, usually
power ball or megamillions or lucky for life.
I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone, and use
the document option, and it never gets them wrong.
I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher number
on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the lottery if it
got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM
Subject: Scanning lottery tickets


I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the
numbers myself and am not having much success.

Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can
do it?

Thanks!
Gene...


Gene Warner
 

I have Seeing AI on an iPhone I no longer use as a phone, so I could try that, then type them into Excel on my PC.

I am working on a spreadsheet that will tell me if a ticket is a winner or not, and which prize it has won if it is a winner.

The problem I've had with trying to OCR these tickets is that they print text in and around the numbers which screws up the OCR so much that you just can't tell what numbers go where.

I don't play the lotteries regularly, I play only when the prize gets interesting, like the powerball is right now.

Gene...

On 11/3/2022 2:24 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi Gene,
I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers that I
have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska lottery, usually
power ball or megamillions or lucky for life.
I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone, and use
the document option, and it never gets them wrong.
I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher number
on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the lottery if it
got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM
Subject: Scanning lottery tickets
I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the
numbers myself and am not having much success.
Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can
do it?
Thanks!
Gene...


 

Another factor here is that virtually all lottery tickets of this type is that they are printed on specially designed paper with a repeated interference pattern in the background which is used to make counterfeiting them much, much more difficult.  It also makes "signal to noise" ratio (SNR) for OCR scanners very low, so it's hard for them to separate out the actual material they're trying to catch.

On weeks where "things go crazy" it's very often the case that the dot-matrix systems used to print them also get overtaxed so that the actual print intensity is lighter than it might ideally be, and this makes the SNR even lower.
--

Brian Virginia, USA Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045  

If you cannot or will not imagine the results of your actions, there’s no way you can act morally or responsibly.  Little kids can’t do it; babies are morally monsters — completely greedy. Their imagination has to be trained into foresight and empathy.

         ~ Ursula LeGuin, 2005 Interview in The Guardian


K0LNY
 

The quick text is not as accurate as the document.
I wish my lottery office would put an earphone jack like ATMs have so I can
scan them myself at the store.
I've toyed with the idea of trying to see if my seeing AI on the quick text
would read the customer scan window so I could scan them at the store
myself.
The Nebraska lottery has an app for scanning tickets, but you know, there is
more than one barcode on the tickets, and that sometimes messes up the
iPhone lottery app, so it is more trouble than it is worth to use their app
to see if they are winners.
But I hate having to trust people behind the counter to scan my tickets.
For at least twenty years I've been asking Nebraska lotto to make accessible
scanners, but they haven't yet, and they have since I started asking,
updated their machines, with no accessibility.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


I have Seeing AI on an iPhone I no longer use as a phone, so I could try
that, then type them into Excel on my PC.

I am working on a spreadsheet that will tell me if a ticket is a winner
or not, and which prize it has won if it is a winner.

The problem I've had with trying to OCR these tickets is that they print
text in and around the numbers which screws up the OCR so much that you
just can't tell what numbers go where.

I don't play the lotteries regularly, I play only when the prize gets
interesting, like the powerball is right now.

Gene...



On 11/3/2022 2:24 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi Gene,
I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers that I
have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska lottery, usually
power ball or megamillions or lucky for life.
I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone, and
use
the document option, and it never gets them wrong.
I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher
number
on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the lottery if it
got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM
Subject: Scanning lottery tickets


I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the
numbers myself and am not having much success.

Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can
do it?

Thanks!
Gene...










Gene Warner
 

Lucky you! Here in Florida we don't get the option to check our own tickets with a machine. We have to hand our tickets to an employee of the lottery retailer to scan them for us, then hope they are honest about it.

There have been calls for the Florida lottery to make machines available so that ticket buyers can check their own tickets because there have been a number of reports of lottery retailer employees being dishonest about ticket results.

The way I avoid that problem is to always ask for my tickets back after they have been checked when I am told that there were no winners. That way if the employee is being dishonest, they won't have the tickets to claim the prize with, then I take them to another retailer to check. I still take back the non winning tickets just in case both employees are being dishonest, then shred them.

Unfortunately the text in and around the numbers screwed up Seeing AI as well. I guess it will take either a human or an app designed specifically to read these tickets.

Gene...

On 11/3/2022 3:08 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
The quick text is not as accurate as the document.
I wish my lottery office would put an earphone jack like ATMs have so I can
scan them myself at the store.
I've toyed with the idea of trying to see if my seeing AI on the quick text
would read the customer scan window so I could scan them at the store
myself.
The Nebraska lottery has an app for scanning tickets, but you know, there is
more than one barcode on the tickets, and that sometimes messes up the
iPhone lottery app, so it is more trouble than it is worth to use their app
to see if they are winners.
But I hate having to trust people behind the counter to scan my tickets.
For at least twenty years I've been asking Nebraska lotto to make accessible
scanners, but they haven't yet, and they have since I started asking,
updated their machines, with no accessibility.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets
I have Seeing AI on an iPhone I no longer use as a phone, so I could try
that, then type them into Excel on my PC.
I am working on a spreadsheet that will tell me if a ticket is a winner
or not, and which prize it has won if it is a winner.
The problem I've had with trying to OCR these tickets is that they print
text in and around the numbers which screws up the OCR so much that you
just can't tell what numbers go where.
I don't play the lotteries regularly, I play only when the prize gets
interesting, like the powerball is right now.
Gene...
On 11/3/2022 2:24 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi Gene,
I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers that I
have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska lottery, usually
power ball or megamillions or lucky for life.
I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone, and
use
the document option, and it never gets them wrong.
I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher
number
on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the lottery if it
got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM
Subject: Scanning lottery tickets


I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the
numbers myself and am not having much success.

Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can
do it?

Thanks!
Gene...










K0LNY
 

Well now is the time to make sure they add accessibility to the customer
ticket scanners.
So find out if there is a group or committee working on this, and they can
model them after ATM machines.
I too take my tickets back, not just in case I question their honesty, but
in case they made a mistake.
I wonder if this is accessible in California?
I thought California passed a point of sale law some years back where all
point of sale devices have to be accessible.
If that is the case there, we can get our states to use their type of
lottery machines.
On our ticket scanners for customers, it used to be that they only displayed
winner or not a winner.
Now they display how much you won.
But I think it would be easy for them to add TTS to that display.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


Lucky you! Here in Florida we don't get the option to check our own
tickets with a machine. We have to hand our tickets to an employee of
the lottery retailer to scan them for us, then hope they are honest
about it.

There have been calls for the Florida lottery to make machines available
so that ticket buyers can check their own tickets because there have
been a number of reports of lottery retailer employees being dishonest
about ticket results.

The way I avoid that problem is to always ask for my tickets back after
they have been checked when I am told that there were no winners. That
way if the employee is being dishonest, they won't have the tickets to
claim the prize with, then I take them to another retailer to check. I
still take back the non winning tickets just in case both employees are
being dishonest, then shred them.

Unfortunately the text in and around the numbers screwed up Seeing AI as
well. I guess it will take either a human or an app designed
specifically to read these tickets.

Gene...



On 11/3/2022 3:08 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
The quick text is not as accurate as the document.
I wish my lottery office would put an earphone jack like ATMs have so I
can
scan them myself at the store.
I've toyed with the idea of trying to see if my seeing AI on the quick
text
would read the customer scan window so I could scan them at the store
myself.
The Nebraska lottery has an app for scanning tickets, but you know, there
is
more than one barcode on the tickets, and that sometimes messes up the
iPhone lottery app, so it is more trouble than it is worth to use their
app
to see if they are winners.
But I hate having to trust people behind the counter to scan my tickets.
For at least twenty years I've been asking Nebraska lotto to make
accessible
scanners, but they haven't yet, and they have since I started asking,
updated their machines, with no accessibility.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


I have Seeing AI on an iPhone I no longer use as a phone, so I could try
that, then type them into Excel on my PC.

I am working on a spreadsheet that will tell me if a ticket is a winner
or not, and which prize it has won if it is a winner.

The problem I've had with trying to OCR these tickets is that they print
text in and around the numbers which screws up the OCR so much that you
just can't tell what numbers go where.

I don't play the lotteries regularly, I play only when the prize gets
interesting, like the powerball is right now.

Gene...



On 11/3/2022 2:24 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi Gene,
I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers that I
have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska lottery, usually
power ball or megamillions or lucky for life.
I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone, and
use
the document option, and it never gets them wrong.
I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher
number
on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the lottery if it
got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM
Subject: Scanning lottery tickets


I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the
numbers myself and am not having much success.

Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can
do it?

Thanks!
Gene...


















Joseph Machise
 

glenn what can I scan my tickets on.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


Well now is the time to make sure they add accessibility to the customer
ticket scanners.
So find out if there is a group or committee working on this, and they can
model them after ATM machines.
I too take my tickets back, not just in case I question their honesty, but
in case they made a mistake.
I wonder if this is accessible in California?
I thought California passed a point of sale law some years back where all
point of sale devices have to be accessible.
If that is the case there, we can get our states to use their type of
lottery machines.
On our ticket scanners for customers, it used to be that they only displayed
winner or not a winner.
Now they display how much you won.
But I think it would be easy for them to add TTS to that display.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


Lucky you! Here in Florida we don't get the option to check our own
tickets with a machine. We have to hand our tickets to an employee of
the lottery retailer to scan them for us, then hope they are honest
about it.

There have been calls for the Florida lottery to make machines available
so that ticket buyers can check their own tickets because there have
been a number of reports of lottery retailer employees being dishonest
about ticket results.

The way I avoid that problem is to always ask for my tickets back after
they have been checked when I am told that there were no winners. That
way if the employee is being dishonest, they won't have the tickets to
claim the prize with, then I take them to another retailer to check. I
still take back the non winning tickets just in case both employees are
being dishonest, then shred them.

Unfortunately the text in and around the numbers screwed up Seeing AI as
well. I guess it will take either a human or an app designed
specifically to read these tickets.

Gene...



On 11/3/2022 3:08 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
The quick text is not as accurate as the document.
I wish my lottery office would put an earphone jack like ATMs have so I
can
scan them myself at the store.
I've toyed with the idea of trying to see if my seeing AI on the quick
text
would read the customer scan window so I could scan them at the store
myself.
The Nebraska lottery has an app for scanning tickets, but you know, there
is
more than one barcode on the tickets, and that sometimes messes up the
iPhone lottery app, so it is more trouble than it is worth to use their
app
to see if they are winners.
But I hate having to trust people behind the counter to scan my tickets.
For at least twenty years I've been asking Nebraska lotto to make
accessible
scanners, but they haven't yet, and they have since I started asking,
updated their machines, with no accessibility.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


I have Seeing AI on an iPhone I no longer use as a phone, so I could try
that, then type them into Excel on my PC.

I am working on a spreadsheet that will tell me if a ticket is a winner
or not, and which prize it has won if it is a winner.

The problem I've had with trying to OCR these tickets is that they print
text in and around the numbers which screws up the OCR so much that you
just can't tell what numbers go where.

I don't play the lotteries regularly, I play only when the prize gets
interesting, like the powerball is right now.

Gene...



On 11/3/2022 2:24 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi Gene,
I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers that I
have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska lottery, usually
power ball or megamillions or lucky for life.
I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone, and
use
the document option, and it never gets them wrong.
I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher
number
on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the lottery if it
got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM
Subject: Scanning lottery tickets


I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the
numbers myself and am not having much success.

Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can
do it?

Thanks!
Gene...


















K0LNY
 

Well, you have a flatbed scanner, you just need to hook it up, install the
drivers, and tell Jaws to use it.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


glenn what can I scan my tickets on.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


Well now is the time to make sure they add accessibility to the customer
ticket scanners.
So find out if there is a group or committee working on this, and they can
model them after ATM machines.
I too take my tickets back, not just in case I question their honesty, but
in case they made a mistake.
I wonder if this is accessible in California?
I thought California passed a point of sale law some years back where all
point of sale devices have to be accessible.
If that is the case there, we can get our states to use their type of
lottery machines.
On our ticket scanners for customers, it used to be that they only displayed
winner or not a winner.
Now they display how much you won.
But I think it would be easy for them to add TTS to that display.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


Lucky you! Here in Florida we don't get the option to check our own
tickets with a machine. We have to hand our tickets to an employee of
the lottery retailer to scan them for us, then hope they are honest
about it.

There have been calls for the Florida lottery to make machines available
so that ticket buyers can check their own tickets because there have
been a number of reports of lottery retailer employees being dishonest
about ticket results.

The way I avoid that problem is to always ask for my tickets back after
they have been checked when I am told that there were no winners. That
way if the employee is being dishonest, they won't have the tickets to
claim the prize with, then I take them to another retailer to check. I
still take back the non winning tickets just in case both employees are
being dishonest, then shred them.

Unfortunately the text in and around the numbers screwed up Seeing AI as
well. I guess it will take either a human or an app designed
specifically to read these tickets.

Gene...



On 11/3/2022 3:08 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
The quick text is not as accurate as the document.
I wish my lottery office would put an earphone jack like ATMs have so I
can
scan them myself at the store.
I've toyed with the idea of trying to see if my seeing AI on the quick
text
would read the customer scan window so I could scan them at the store
myself.
The Nebraska lottery has an app for scanning tickets, but you know, there
is
more than one barcode on the tickets, and that sometimes messes up the
iPhone lottery app, so it is more trouble than it is worth to use their
app
to see if they are winners.
But I hate having to trust people behind the counter to scan my tickets.
For at least twenty years I've been asking Nebraska lotto to make
accessible
scanners, but they haven't yet, and they have since I started asking,
updated their machines, with no accessibility.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


I have Seeing AI on an iPhone I no longer use as a phone, so I could try
that, then type them into Excel on my PC.

I am working on a spreadsheet that will tell me if a ticket is a winner
or not, and which prize it has won if it is a winner.

The problem I've had with trying to OCR these tickets is that they print
text in and around the numbers which screws up the OCR so much that you
just can't tell what numbers go where.

I don't play the lotteries regularly, I play only when the prize gets
interesting, like the powerball is right now.

Gene...



On 11/3/2022 2:24 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi Gene,
I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers that I
have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska lottery, usually
power ball or megamillions or lucky for life.
I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone, and
use
the document option, and it never gets them wrong.
I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher
number
on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the lottery if it
got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM
Subject: Scanning lottery tickets


I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the
numbers myself and am not having much success.

Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can
do it?

Thanks!
Gene...


















Joseph Machise
 

tried it on the sarah I bought no luck got that last year.
Any news on my gmail account yet?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


Well, you have a flatbed scanner, you just need to hook it up, install the
drivers, and tell Jaws to use it.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


glenn what can I scan my tickets on.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


Well now is the time to make sure they add accessibility to the customer
ticket scanners.
So find out if there is a group or committee working on this, and they can
model them after ATM machines.
I too take my tickets back, not just in case I question their honesty, but
in case they made a mistake.
I wonder if this is accessible in California?
I thought California passed a point of sale law some years back where all
point of sale devices have to be accessible.
If that is the case there, we can get our states to use their type of
lottery machines.
On our ticket scanners for customers, it used to be that they only displayed
winner or not a winner.
Now they display how much you won.
But I think it would be easy for them to add TTS to that display.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


Lucky you! Here in Florida we don't get the option to check our own
tickets with a machine. We have to hand our tickets to an employee of
the lottery retailer to scan them for us, then hope they are honest
about it.

There have been calls for the Florida lottery to make machines available
so that ticket buyers can check their own tickets because there have
been a number of reports of lottery retailer employees being dishonest
about ticket results.

The way I avoid that problem is to always ask for my tickets back after
they have been checked when I am told that there were no winners. That
way if the employee is being dishonest, they won't have the tickets to
claim the prize with, then I take them to another retailer to check. I
still take back the non winning tickets just in case both employees are
being dishonest, then shred them.

Unfortunately the text in and around the numbers screwed up Seeing AI as
well. I guess it will take either a human or an app designed
specifically to read these tickets.

Gene...



On 11/3/2022 3:08 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
The quick text is not as accurate as the document.
I wish my lottery office would put an earphone jack like ATMs have so I
can
scan them myself at the store.
I've toyed with the idea of trying to see if my seeing AI on the quick
text
would read the customer scan window so I could scan them at the store
myself.
The Nebraska lottery has an app for scanning tickets, but you know, there
is
more than one barcode on the tickets, and that sometimes messes up the
iPhone lottery app, so it is more trouble than it is worth to use their
app
to see if they are winners.
But I hate having to trust people behind the counter to scan my tickets.
For at least twenty years I've been asking Nebraska lotto to make
accessible
scanners, but they haven't yet, and they have since I started asking,
updated their machines, with no accessibility.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


I have Seeing AI on an iPhone I no longer use as a phone, so I could try
that, then type them into Excel on my PC.

I am working on a spreadsheet that will tell me if a ticket is a winner
or not, and which prize it has won if it is a winner.

The problem I've had with trying to OCR these tickets is that they print
text in and around the numbers which screws up the OCR so much that you
just can't tell what numbers go where.

I don't play the lotteries regularly, I play only when the prize gets
interesting, like the powerball is right now.

Gene...



On 11/3/2022 2:24 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi Gene,
I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers that I
have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska lottery, usually
power ball or megamillions or lucky for life.
I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone, and
use
the document option, and it never gets them wrong.
I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher
number
on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the lottery if it
got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM
Subject: Scanning lottery tickets


I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the
numbers myself and am not having much success.

Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can
do it?

Thanks!
Gene...


















K0LNY
 

You should ask some lists for ideas.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


tried it on the sarah I bought no luck got that last year.
Any news on my gmail account yet?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


Well, you have a flatbed scanner, you just need to hook it up, install the
drivers, and tell Jaws to use it.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


glenn what can I scan my tickets on.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


Well now is the time to make sure they add accessibility to the customer
ticket scanners.
So find out if there is a group or committee working on this, and they can
model them after ATM machines.
I too take my tickets back, not just in case I question their honesty, but
in case they made a mistake.
I wonder if this is accessible in California?
I thought California passed a point of sale law some years back where all
point of sale devices have to be accessible.
If that is the case there, we can get our states to use their type of
lottery machines.
On our ticket scanners for customers, it used to be that they only displayed
winner or not a winner.
Now they display how much you won.
But I think it would be easy for them to add TTS to that display.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


Lucky you! Here in Florida we don't get the option to check our own
tickets with a machine. We have to hand our tickets to an employee of
the lottery retailer to scan them for us, then hope they are honest
about it.

There have been calls for the Florida lottery to make machines available
so that ticket buyers can check their own tickets because there have
been a number of reports of lottery retailer employees being dishonest
about ticket results.

The way I avoid that problem is to always ask for my tickets back after
they have been checked when I am told that there were no winners. That
way if the employee is being dishonest, they won't have the tickets to
claim the prize with, then I take them to another retailer to check. I
still take back the non winning tickets just in case both employees are
being dishonest, then shred them.

Unfortunately the text in and around the numbers screwed up Seeing AI as
well. I guess it will take either a human or an app designed
specifically to read these tickets.

Gene...



On 11/3/2022 3:08 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
The quick text is not as accurate as the document.
I wish my lottery office would put an earphone jack like ATMs have so I
can
scan them myself at the store.
I've toyed with the idea of trying to see if my seeing AI on the quick
text
would read the customer scan window so I could scan them at the store
myself.
The Nebraska lottery has an app for scanning tickets, but you know, there
is
more than one barcode on the tickets, and that sometimes messes up the
iPhone lottery app, so it is more trouble than it is worth to use their
app
to see if they are winners.
But I hate having to trust people behind the counter to scan my tickets.
For at least twenty years I've been asking Nebraska lotto to make
accessible
scanners, but they haven't yet, and they have since I started asking,
updated their machines, with no accessibility.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


I have Seeing AI on an iPhone I no longer use as a phone, so I could try
that, then type them into Excel on my PC.

I am working on a spreadsheet that will tell me if a ticket is a winner
or not, and which prize it has won if it is a winner.

The problem I've had with trying to OCR these tickets is that they print
text in and around the numbers which screws up the OCR so much that you
just can't tell what numbers go where.

I don't play the lotteries regularly, I play only when the prize gets
interesting, like the powerball is right now.

Gene...



On 11/3/2022 2:24 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi Gene,
I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers that I
have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska lottery, usually
power ball or megamillions or lucky for life.
I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone, and
use
the document option, and it never gets them wrong.
I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher
number
on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the lottery if it
got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM
Subject: Scanning lottery tickets


I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the
numbers myself and am not having much success.

Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can
do it?

Thanks!
Gene...


















Gene Warner
 

I find it very ironic that the worst violators of the ADA is the very same government that passed it into law.

They have an app that can scan their tickets, but it isn't accessible.

And even if it was, to use it you have to pay a monthly fee, and I refuse to do that.

I guess I'll just have to have an Aira agent put the numbers into a text file and email it to me.

Gene...

On 11/3/2022 3:30 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Well now is the time to make sure they add accessibility to the customer
ticket scanners.
So find out if there is a group or committee working on this, and they can
model them after ATM machines.
I too take my tickets back, not just in case I question their honesty, but
in case they made a mistake.
I wonder if this is accessible in California?
I thought California passed a point of sale law some years back where all
point of sale devices have to be accessible.
If that is the case there, we can get our states to use their type of
lottery machines.
On our ticket scanners for customers, it used to be that they only displayed
winner or not a winner.
Now they display how much you won.
But I think it would be easy for them to add TTS to that display.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets
Lucky you! Here in Florida we don't get the option to check our own
tickets with a machine. We have to hand our tickets to an employee of
the lottery retailer to scan them for us, then hope they are honest
about it.
There have been calls for the Florida lottery to make machines available
so that ticket buyers can check their own tickets because there have
been a number of reports of lottery retailer employees being dishonest
about ticket results.
The way I avoid that problem is to always ask for my tickets back after
they have been checked when I am told that there were no winners. That
way if the employee is being dishonest, they won't have the tickets to
claim the prize with, then I take them to another retailer to check. I
still take back the non winning tickets just in case both employees are
being dishonest, then shred them.
Unfortunately the text in and around the numbers screwed up Seeing AI as
well. I guess it will take either a human or an app designed
specifically to read these tickets.
Gene...
On 11/3/2022 3:08 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
The quick text is not as accurate as the document.
I wish my lottery office would put an earphone jack like ATMs have so I
can
scan them myself at the store.
I've toyed with the idea of trying to see if my seeing AI on the quick
text
would read the customer scan window so I could scan them at the store
myself.
The Nebraska lottery has an app for scanning tickets, but you know, there
is
more than one barcode on the tickets, and that sometimes messes up the
iPhone lottery app, so it is more trouble than it is worth to use their
app
to see if they are winners.
But I hate having to trust people behind the counter to scan my tickets.
For at least twenty years I've been asking Nebraska lotto to make
accessible
scanners, but they haven't yet, and they have since I started asking,
updated their machines, with no accessibility.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


I have Seeing AI on an iPhone I no longer use as a phone, so I could try
that, then type them into Excel on my PC.

I am working on a spreadsheet that will tell me if a ticket is a winner
or not, and which prize it has won if it is a winner.

The problem I've had with trying to OCR these tickets is that they print
text in and around the numbers which screws up the OCR so much that you
just can't tell what numbers go where.

I don't play the lotteries regularly, I play only when the prize gets
interesting, like the powerball is right now.

Gene...



On 11/3/2022 2:24 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi Gene,
I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers that I
have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska lottery, usually
power ball or megamillions or lucky for life.
I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone, and
use
the document option, and it never gets them wrong.
I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher
number
on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the lottery if it
got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM
Subject: Scanning lottery tickets


I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the
numbers myself and am not having much success.

Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can
do it?

Thanks!
Gene...


















Joseph Machise
 

the message I just got back didn't go in my gmail account.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Machise via groups.io" <jdmachise@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


tried it on the sarah I bought no luck got that last year.
Any news on my gmail account yet?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


Well, you have a flatbed scanner, you just need to hook it up, install the
drivers, and tell Jaws to use it.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


glenn what can I scan my tickets on.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


Well now is the time to make sure they add accessibility to the customer
ticket scanners.
So find out if there is a group or committee working on this, and they can
model them after ATM machines.
I too take my tickets back, not just in case I question their honesty, but
in case they made a mistake.
I wonder if this is accessible in California?
I thought California passed a point of sale law some years back where all
point of sale devices have to be accessible.
If that is the case there, we can get our states to use their type of
lottery machines.
On our ticket scanners for customers, it used to be that they only displayed
winner or not a winner.
Now they display how much you won.
But I think it would be easy for them to add TTS to that display.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


Lucky you! Here in Florida we don't get the option to check our own
tickets with a machine. We have to hand our tickets to an employee of
the lottery retailer to scan them for us, then hope they are honest
about it.

There have been calls for the Florida lottery to make machines available
so that ticket buyers can check their own tickets because there have
been a number of reports of lottery retailer employees being dishonest
about ticket results.

The way I avoid that problem is to always ask for my tickets back after
they have been checked when I am told that there were no winners. That
way if the employee is being dishonest, they won't have the tickets to
claim the prize with, then I take them to another retailer to check. I
still take back the non winning tickets just in case both employees are
being dishonest, then shred them.

Unfortunately the text in and around the numbers screwed up Seeing AI as
well. I guess it will take either a human or an app designed
specifically to read these tickets.

Gene...



On 11/3/2022 3:08 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
The quick text is not as accurate as the document.
I wish my lottery office would put an earphone jack like ATMs have so I
can
scan them myself at the store.
I've toyed with the idea of trying to see if my seeing AI on the quick
text
would read the customer scan window so I could scan them at the store
myself.
The Nebraska lottery has an app for scanning tickets, but you know, there
is
more than one barcode on the tickets, and that sometimes messes up the
iPhone lottery app, so it is more trouble than it is worth to use their
app
to see if they are winners.
But I hate having to trust people behind the counter to scan my tickets.
For at least twenty years I've been asking Nebraska lotto to make
accessible
scanners, but they haven't yet, and they have since I started asking,
updated their machines, with no accessibility.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


I have Seeing AI on an iPhone I no longer use as a phone, so I could try
that, then type them into Excel on my PC.

I am working on a spreadsheet that will tell me if a ticket is a winner
or not, and which prize it has won if it is a winner.

The problem I've had with trying to OCR these tickets is that they print
text in and around the numbers which screws up the OCR so much that you
just can't tell what numbers go where.

I don't play the lotteries regularly, I play only when the prize gets
interesting, like the powerball is right now.

Gene...



On 11/3/2022 2:24 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi Gene,
I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers that I
have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska lottery, usually
power ball or megamillions or lucky for life.
I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone, and
use
the document option, and it never gets them wrong.
I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher
number
on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the lottery if it
got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM
Subject: Scanning lottery tickets


I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the
numbers myself and am not having much success.

Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can
do it?

Thanks!
Gene...


















Joseph Machise
 

hey gene I agree with you, they treat us like crap

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


I find it very ironic that the worst violators of the ADA is the very
same government that passed it into law.

They have an app that can scan their tickets, but it isn't accessible.

And even if it was, to use it you have to pay a monthly fee, and I
refuse to do that.

I guess I'll just have to have an Aira agent put the numbers into a text
file and email it to me.

Gene...


On 11/3/2022 3:30 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Well now is the time to make sure they add accessibility to the customer
ticket scanners.
So find out if there is a group or committee working on this, and they can
model them after ATM machines.
I too take my tickets back, not just in case I question their honesty, but
in case they made a mistake.
I wonder if this is accessible in California?
I thought California passed a point of sale law some years back where all
point of sale devices have to be accessible.
If that is the case there, we can get our states to use their type of
lottery machines.
On our ticket scanners for customers, it used to be that they only
displayed
winner or not a winner.
Now they display how much you won.
But I think it would be easy for them to add TTS to that display.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


Lucky you! Here in Florida we don't get the option to check our own
tickets with a machine. We have to hand our tickets to an employee of
the lottery retailer to scan them for us, then hope they are honest
about it.

There have been calls for the Florida lottery to make machines available
so that ticket buyers can check their own tickets because there have
been a number of reports of lottery retailer employees being dishonest
about ticket results.

The way I avoid that problem is to always ask for my tickets back after
they have been checked when I am told that there were no winners. That
way if the employee is being dishonest, they won't have the tickets to
claim the prize with, then I take them to another retailer to check. I
still take back the non winning tickets just in case both employees are
being dishonest, then shred them.

Unfortunately the text in and around the numbers screwed up Seeing AI as
well. I guess it will take either a human or an app designed
specifically to read these tickets.

Gene...



On 11/3/2022 3:08 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
The quick text is not as accurate as the document.
I wish my lottery office would put an earphone jack like ATMs have so I
can
scan them myself at the store.
I've toyed with the idea of trying to see if my seeing AI on the quick
text
would read the customer scan window so I could scan them at the store
myself.
The Nebraska lottery has an app for scanning tickets, but you know, there
is
more than one barcode on the tickets, and that sometimes messes up the
iPhone lottery app, so it is more trouble than it is worth to use their
app
to see if they are winners.
But I hate having to trust people behind the counter to scan my tickets.
For at least twenty years I've been asking Nebraska lotto to make
accessible
scanners, but they haven't yet, and they have since I started asking,
updated their machines, with no accessibility.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


I have Seeing AI on an iPhone I no longer use as a phone, so I could try
that, then type them into Excel on my PC.

I am working on a spreadsheet that will tell me if a ticket is a winner
or not, and which prize it has won if it is a winner.

The problem I've had with trying to OCR these tickets is that they print
text in and around the numbers which screws up the OCR so much that you
just can't tell what numbers go where.

I don't play the lotteries regularly, I play only when the prize gets
interesting, like the powerball is right now.

Gene...



On 11/3/2022 2:24 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi Gene,
I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers that I
have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska lottery, usually
power ball or megamillions or lucky for life.
I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone, and
use
the document option, and it never gets them wrong.
I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher
number
on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the lottery if
it
got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM
Subject: Scanning lottery tickets


I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the
numbers myself and am not having much success.

Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can
do it?

Thanks!
Gene...


























Gene Warner
 

And hope that your state's lottery doesn't sprinkle text in with the numbers like ours does.

Gene...

On 11/3/2022 3:42 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Well, you have a flatbed scanner, you just need to hook it up, install the
drivers, and tell Jaws to use it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets
glenn what can I scan my tickets on.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets
Well now is the time to make sure they add accessibility to the customer
ticket scanners.
So find out if there is a group or committee working on this, and they can
model them after ATM machines.
I too take my tickets back, not just in case I question their honesty, but
in case they made a mistake.
I wonder if this is accessible in California?
I thought California passed a point of sale law some years back where all
point of sale devices have to be accessible.
If that is the case there, we can get our states to use their type of
lottery machines.
On our ticket scanners for customers, it used to be that they only displayed
winner or not a winner.
Now they display how much you won.
But I think it would be easy for them to add TTS to that display.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets
Lucky you! Here in Florida we don't get the option to check our own
tickets with a machine. We have to hand our tickets to an employee of
the lottery retailer to scan them for us, then hope they are honest
about it.
There have been calls for the Florida lottery to make machines available
so that ticket buyers can check their own tickets because there have
been a number of reports of lottery retailer employees being dishonest
about ticket results.
The way I avoid that problem is to always ask for my tickets back after
they have been checked when I am told that there were no winners. That
way if the employee is being dishonest, they won't have the tickets to
claim the prize with, then I take them to another retailer to check. I
still take back the non winning tickets just in case both employees are
being dishonest, then shred them.
Unfortunately the text in and around the numbers screwed up Seeing AI as
well. I guess it will take either a human or an app designed
specifically to read these tickets.
Gene...
On 11/3/2022 3:08 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
The quick text is not as accurate as the document.
I wish my lottery office would put an earphone jack like ATMs have so I
can
scan them myself at the store.
I've toyed with the idea of trying to see if my seeing AI on the quick
text
would read the customer scan window so I could scan them at the store
myself.
The Nebraska lottery has an app for scanning tickets, but you know, there
is
more than one barcode on the tickets, and that sometimes messes up the
iPhone lottery app, so it is more trouble than it is worth to use their
app
to see if they are winners.
But I hate having to trust people behind the counter to scan my tickets.
For at least twenty years I've been asking Nebraska lotto to make
accessible
scanners, but they haven't yet, and they have since I started asking,
updated their machines, with no accessibility.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


I have Seeing AI on an iPhone I no longer use as a phone, so I could try
that, then type them into Excel on my PC.

I am working on a spreadsheet that will tell me if a ticket is a winner
or not, and which prize it has won if it is a winner.

The problem I've had with trying to OCR these tickets is that they print
text in and around the numbers which screws up the OCR so much that you
just can't tell what numbers go where.

I don't play the lotteries regularly, I play only when the prize gets
interesting, like the powerball is right now.

Gene...



On 11/3/2022 2:24 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi Gene,
I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers that I
have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska lottery, usually
power ball or megamillions or lucky for life.
I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone, and
use
the document option, and it never gets them wrong.
I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher
number
on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the lottery if it
got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM
Subject: Scanning lottery tickets


I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the
numbers myself and am not having much success.

Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can
do it?

Thanks!
Gene...


















Joseph Machise
 

yep they do every thing to make it hard for us.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


And hope that your state's lottery doesn't sprinkle text in with the
numbers like ours does.

Gene...


On 11/3/2022 3:42 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Well, you have a flatbed scanner, you just need to hook it up, install the
drivers, and tell Jaws to use it.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


glenn what can I scan my tickets on.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


Well now is the time to make sure they add accessibility to the customer
ticket scanners.
So find out if there is a group or committee working on this, and they can
model them after ATM machines.
I too take my tickets back, not just in case I question their honesty, but
in case they made a mistake.
I wonder if this is accessible in California?
I thought California passed a point of sale law some years back where all
point of sale devices have to be accessible.
If that is the case there, we can get our states to use their type of
lottery machines.
On our ticket scanners for customers, it used to be that they only
displayed
winner or not a winner.
Now they display how much you won.
But I think it would be easy for them to add TTS to that display.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


Lucky you! Here in Florida we don't get the option to check our own
tickets with a machine. We have to hand our tickets to an employee of
the lottery retailer to scan them for us, then hope they are honest
about it.

There have been calls for the Florida lottery to make machines available
so that ticket buyers can check their own tickets because there have
been a number of reports of lottery retailer employees being dishonest
about ticket results.

The way I avoid that problem is to always ask for my tickets back after
they have been checked when I am told that there were no winners. That
way if the employee is being dishonest, they won't have the tickets to
claim the prize with, then I take them to another retailer to check. I
still take back the non winning tickets just in case both employees are
being dishonest, then shred them.

Unfortunately the text in and around the numbers screwed up Seeing AI as
well. I guess it will take either a human or an app designed
specifically to read these tickets.

Gene...



On 11/3/2022 3:08 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
The quick text is not as accurate as the document.
I wish my lottery office would put an earphone jack like ATMs have so I
can
scan them myself at the store.
I've toyed with the idea of trying to see if my seeing AI on the quick
text
would read the customer scan window so I could scan them at the store
myself.
The Nebraska lottery has an app for scanning tickets, but you know, there
is
more than one barcode on the tickets, and that sometimes messes up the
iPhone lottery app, so it is more trouble than it is worth to use their
app
to see if they are winners.
But I hate having to trust people behind the counter to scan my tickets.
For at least twenty years I've been asking Nebraska lotto to make
accessible
scanners, but they haven't yet, and they have since I started asking,
updated their machines, with no accessibility.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


I have Seeing AI on an iPhone I no longer use as a phone, so I could try
that, then type them into Excel on my PC.

I am working on a spreadsheet that will tell me if a ticket is a winner
or not, and which prize it has won if it is a winner.

The problem I've had with trying to OCR these tickets is that they print
text in and around the numbers which screws up the OCR so much that you
just can't tell what numbers go where.

I don't play the lotteries regularly, I play only when the prize gets
interesting, like the powerball is right now.

Gene...



On 11/3/2022 2:24 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi Gene,
I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers that I
have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska lottery, usually
power ball or megamillions or lucky for life.
I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone, and
use
the document option, and it never gets them wrong.
I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher
number
on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the lottery if
it
got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM
Subject: Scanning lottery tickets


I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the
numbers myself and am not having much success.

Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can
do it?

Thanks!
Gene...




































K0LNY
 

The worse that happens here is sometimes the ink starts getting weak, and
they are difficult for their own scanners.
You should snail-mail me a few old non-winners to see if I can scan them.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


And hope that your state's lottery doesn't sprinkle text in with the
numbers like ours does.

Gene...


On 11/3/2022 3:42 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Well, you have a flatbed scanner, you just need to hook it up, install the
drivers, and tell Jaws to use it.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


glenn what can I scan my tickets on.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


Well now is the time to make sure they add accessibility to the customer
ticket scanners.
So find out if there is a group or committee working on this, and they can
model them after ATM machines.
I too take my tickets back, not just in case I question their honesty, but
in case they made a mistake.
I wonder if this is accessible in California?
I thought California passed a point of sale law some years back where all
point of sale devices have to be accessible.
If that is the case there, we can get our states to use their type of
lottery machines.
On our ticket scanners for customers, it used to be that they only
displayed
winner or not a winner.
Now they display how much you won.
But I think it would be easy for them to add TTS to that display.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


Lucky you! Here in Florida we don't get the option to check our own
tickets with a machine. We have to hand our tickets to an employee of
the lottery retailer to scan them for us, then hope they are honest
about it.

There have been calls for the Florida lottery to make machines available
so that ticket buyers can check their own tickets because there have
been a number of reports of lottery retailer employees being dishonest
about ticket results.

The way I avoid that problem is to always ask for my tickets back after
they have been checked when I am told that there were no winners. That
way if the employee is being dishonest, they won't have the tickets to
claim the prize with, then I take them to another retailer to check. I
still take back the non winning tickets just in case both employees are
being dishonest, then shred them.

Unfortunately the text in and around the numbers screwed up Seeing AI as
well. I guess it will take either a human or an app designed
specifically to read these tickets.

Gene...



On 11/3/2022 3:08 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
The quick text is not as accurate as the document.
I wish my lottery office would put an earphone jack like ATMs have so I
can
scan them myself at the store.
I've toyed with the idea of trying to see if my seeing AI on the quick
text
would read the customer scan window so I could scan them at the store
myself.
The Nebraska lottery has an app for scanning tickets, but you know, there
is
more than one barcode on the tickets, and that sometimes messes up the
iPhone lottery app, so it is more trouble than it is worth to use their
app
to see if they are winners.
But I hate having to trust people behind the counter to scan my tickets.
For at least twenty years I've been asking Nebraska lotto to make
accessible
scanners, but they haven't yet, and they have since I started asking,
updated their machines, with no accessibility.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


I have Seeing AI on an iPhone I no longer use as a phone, so I could try
that, then type them into Excel on my PC.

I am working on a spreadsheet that will tell me if a ticket is a winner
or not, and which prize it has won if it is a winner.

The problem I've had with trying to OCR these tickets is that they print
text in and around the numbers which screws up the OCR so much that you
just can't tell what numbers go where.

I don't play the lotteries regularly, I play only when the prize gets
interesting, like the powerball is right now.

Gene...



On 11/3/2022 2:24 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi Gene,
I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers that I
have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska lottery, usually
power ball or megamillions or lucky for life.
I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone, and
use
the document option, and it never gets them wrong.
I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher
number
on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the lottery if
it
got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM
Subject: Scanning lottery tickets


I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the
numbers myself and am not having much success.

Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can
do it?

Thanks!
Gene...




































Joseph Machise
 

I will after Friday this ticket is glossey.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


The worse that happens here is sometimes the ink starts getting weak, and
they are difficult for their own scanners.
You should snail-mail me a few old non-winners to see if I can scan them.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


And hope that your state's lottery doesn't sprinkle text in with the
numbers like ours does.

Gene...


On 11/3/2022 3:42 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Well, you have a flatbed scanner, you just need to hook it up, install the
drivers, and tell Jaws to use it.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


glenn what can I scan my tickets on.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


Well now is the time to make sure they add accessibility to the customer
ticket scanners.
So find out if there is a group or committee working on this, and they can
model them after ATM machines.
I too take my tickets back, not just in case I question their honesty, but
in case they made a mistake.
I wonder if this is accessible in California?
I thought California passed a point of sale law some years back where all
point of sale devices have to be accessible.
If that is the case there, we can get our states to use their type of
lottery machines.
On our ticket scanners for customers, it used to be that they only
displayed
winner or not a winner.
Now they display how much you won.
But I think it would be easy for them to add TTS to that display.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


Lucky you! Here in Florida we don't get the option to check our own
tickets with a machine. We have to hand our tickets to an employee of
the lottery retailer to scan them for us, then hope they are honest
about it.

There have been calls for the Florida lottery to make machines available
so that ticket buyers can check their own tickets because there have
been a number of reports of lottery retailer employees being dishonest
about ticket results.

The way I avoid that problem is to always ask for my tickets back after
they have been checked when I am told that there were no winners. That
way if the employee is being dishonest, they won't have the tickets to
claim the prize with, then I take them to another retailer to check. I
still take back the non winning tickets just in case both employees are
being dishonest, then shred them.

Unfortunately the text in and around the numbers screwed up Seeing AI as
well. I guess it will take either a human or an app designed
specifically to read these tickets.

Gene...



On 11/3/2022 3:08 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
The quick text is not as accurate as the document.
I wish my lottery office would put an earphone jack like ATMs have so I
can
scan them myself at the store.
I've toyed with the idea of trying to see if my seeing AI on the quick
text
would read the customer scan window so I could scan them at the store
myself.
The Nebraska lottery has an app for scanning tickets, but you know, there
is
more than one barcode on the tickets, and that sometimes messes up the
iPhone lottery app, so it is more trouble than it is worth to use their
app
to see if they are winners.
But I hate having to trust people behind the counter to scan my tickets.
For at least twenty years I've been asking Nebraska lotto to make
accessible
scanners, but they haven't yet, and they have since I started asking,
updated their machines, with no accessibility.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


I have Seeing AI on an iPhone I no longer use as a phone, so I could try
that, then type them into Excel on my PC.

I am working on a spreadsheet that will tell me if a ticket is a winner
or not, and which prize it has won if it is a winner.

The problem I've had with trying to OCR these tickets is that they print
text in and around the numbers which screws up the OCR so much that you
just can't tell what numbers go where.

I don't play the lotteries regularly, I play only when the prize gets
interesting, like the powerball is right now.

Gene...



On 11/3/2022 2:24 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi Gene,
I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers that I
have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska lottery, usually
power ball or megamillions or lucky for life.
I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone, and
use
the document option, and it never gets them wrong.
I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher
number
on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the lottery if
it
got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM
Subject: Scanning lottery tickets


I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the
numbers myself and am not having much success.

Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can
do it?

Thanks!
Gene...




































K0LNY
 

Our tickets have one glossy side, and if the person behind the counter does
not load the paper backwards, the business side of the tickets is the glossy
side, so I always scan that side first.
But sometimes they load the paper roll wrong.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


I will after Friday this ticket is glossey.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


The worse that happens here is sometimes the ink starts getting weak, and
they are difficult for their own scanners.
You should snail-mail me a few old non-winners to see if I can scan them.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


And hope that your state's lottery doesn't sprinkle text in with the
numbers like ours does.

Gene...


On 11/3/2022 3:42 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Well, you have a flatbed scanner, you just need to hook it up, install the
drivers, and tell Jaws to use it.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


glenn what can I scan my tickets on.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


Well now is the time to make sure they add accessibility to the customer
ticket scanners.
So find out if there is a group or committee working on this, and they can
model them after ATM machines.
I too take my tickets back, not just in case I question their honesty, but
in case they made a mistake.
I wonder if this is accessible in California?
I thought California passed a point of sale law some years back where all
point of sale devices have to be accessible.
If that is the case there, we can get our states to use their type of
lottery machines.
On our ticket scanners for customers, it used to be that they only
displayed
winner or not a winner.
Now they display how much you won.
But I think it would be easy for them to add TTS to that display.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


Lucky you! Here in Florida we don't get the option to check our own
tickets with a machine. We have to hand our tickets to an employee of
the lottery retailer to scan them for us, then hope they are honest
about it.

There have been calls for the Florida lottery to make machines available
so that ticket buyers can check their own tickets because there have
been a number of reports of lottery retailer employees being dishonest
about ticket results.

The way I avoid that problem is to always ask for my tickets back after
they have been checked when I am told that there were no winners. That
way if the employee is being dishonest, they won't have the tickets to
claim the prize with, then I take them to another retailer to check. I
still take back the non winning tickets just in case both employees are
being dishonest, then shred them.

Unfortunately the text in and around the numbers screwed up Seeing AI as
well. I guess it will take either a human or an app designed
specifically to read these tickets.

Gene...



On 11/3/2022 3:08 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
The quick text is not as accurate as the document.
I wish my lottery office would put an earphone jack like ATMs have so I
can
scan them myself at the store.
I've toyed with the idea of trying to see if my seeing AI on the quick
text
would read the customer scan window so I could scan them at the store
myself.
The Nebraska lottery has an app for scanning tickets, but you know, there
is
more than one barcode on the tickets, and that sometimes messes up the
iPhone lottery app, so it is more trouble than it is worth to use their
app
to see if they are winners.
But I hate having to trust people behind the counter to scan my tickets.
For at least twenty years I've been asking Nebraska lotto to make
accessible
scanners, but they haven't yet, and they have since I started asking,
updated their machines, with no accessibility.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


I have Seeing AI on an iPhone I no longer use as a phone, so I could try
that, then type them into Excel on my PC.

I am working on a spreadsheet that will tell me if a ticket is a winner
or not, and which prize it has won if it is a winner.

The problem I've had with trying to OCR these tickets is that they print
text in and around the numbers which screws up the OCR so much that you
just can't tell what numbers go where.

I don't play the lotteries regularly, I play only when the prize gets
interesting, like the powerball is right now.

Gene...



On 11/3/2022 2:24 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi Gene,
I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers that I
have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska lottery, usually
power ball or megamillions or lucky for life.
I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone, and
use
the document option, and it never gets them wrong.
I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher
number
on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the lottery if
it
got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM
Subject: Scanning lottery tickets


I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the
numbers myself and am not having much success.

Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can
do it?

Thanks!
Gene...




































Pam Ekstrand
 

Hi,

AIRA could be an option to read the numbers on your ticket, and then you can go to the Florida lottery winning numbers website to check if anything matches.

Pam

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2022 3:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets

Lucky you! Here in Florida we don't get the option to check our own tickets with a machine. We have to hand our tickets to an employee of the lottery retailer to scan them for us, then hope they are honest about it.

There have been calls for the Florida lottery to make machines available so that ticket buyers can check their own tickets because there have been a number of reports of lottery retailer employees being dishonest about ticket results.

The way I avoid that problem is to always ask for my tickets back after they have been checked when I am told that there were no winners. That way if the employee is being dishonest, they won't have the tickets to claim the prize with, then I take them to another retailer to check. I still take back the non winning tickets just in case both employees are being dishonest, then shred them.

Unfortunately the text in and around the numbers screwed up Seeing AI as well. I guess it will take either a human or an app designed specifically to read these tickets.

Gene...



On 11/3/2022 3:08 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
The quick text is not as accurate as the document.
I wish my lottery office would put an earphone jack like ATMs have so
I can scan them myself at the store.
I've toyed with the idea of trying to see if my seeing AI on the quick
text would read the customer scan window so I could scan them at the
store myself.
The Nebraska lottery has an app for scanning tickets, but you know,
there is more than one barcode on the tickets, and that sometimes
messes up the iPhone lottery app, so it is more trouble than it is
worth to use their app to see if they are winners.
But I hate having to trust people behind the counter to scan my tickets.
For at least twenty years I've been asking Nebraska lotto to make
accessible scanners, but they haven't yet, and they have since I
started asking, updated their machines, with no accessibility.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets


I have Seeing AI on an iPhone I no longer use as a phone, so I could
try that, then type them into Excel on my PC.

I am working on a spreadsheet that will tell me if a ticket is a
winner or not, and which prize it has won if it is a winner.

The problem I've had with trying to OCR these tickets is that they
print text in and around the numbers which screws up the OCR so much
that you just can't tell what numbers go where.

I don't play the lotteries regularly, I play only when the prize gets
interesting, like the powerball is right now.

Gene...



On 11/3/2022 2:24 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi Gene,
I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers
that I have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska
lottery, usually power ball or megamillions or lucky for life.
I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone,
and use the document option, and it never gets them wrong.
I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher
number on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the
lottery if it got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM
Subject: Scanning lottery tickets


I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the
numbers myself and am not having much success.

Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that
can do it?

Thanks!
Gene...