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Karen Reynolds
I’m running latest Windows 11 and Jaws. I’ve noticed that since upgrading to Windows 11 Jaws no longer speaks that it is safe to remove a thumb drive. It makes a sound for the SD cards but doesn’t say anything. Where do I go to get this changed so Jaws will tell me it is safe to remove the drive?
Karen
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Gene Warner
I am getting this problem too. At first I thought it was a momentary glitch, but now that I see that someone else has this problem too, now I'm not so sure.
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Gene... On 2/17/2023 11:23 PM, Karen Reynolds wrote:
I’m running latest Windows 11 and Jaws. I’ve noticed that since upgrading to Windows 11 Jaws no longer speaks that it is safe to remove a thumb drive. It makes a sound for the SD cards but doesn’t say anything. Where do I go to get this changed so Jaws will tell me it is safe to remove the drive? |
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K0LNY
I'd say it is a feature, not a problem.
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Most people don't like that canned message. I ignore it. Glenn ----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2023 2:17 PM Subject: Re: safe to eject is not speaking I am getting this problem too. At first I thought it was a momentary glitch, but now that I see that someone else has this problem too, now I'm not so sure. Gene... On 2/17/2023 11:23 PM, Karen Reynolds wrote: I’m running latest Windows 11 and Jaws. I’ve noticed that since |
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Gene Warner
And I say to each his own, just because you don't like it doesn't mean that we all should have to do without it.
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Gene... On 2/18/2023 3:20 PM, K0LNY wrote:
I'd say it is a feature, not a problem. |
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Karen Reynolds
It was working with 10, then I upgraded to 11 and it doesn't even make a sound, but less speak that it is ready to eject.
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K aren -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2023 3:18 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: safe to eject is not speaking I am getting this problem too. At first I thought it was a momentary glitch, but now that I see that someone else has this problem too, now I'm not so sure. Gene... On 2/17/2023 11:23 PM, Karen Reynolds wrote: I’m running latest Windows 11 and Jaws. I’ve noticed that since |
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Karen Reynolds
Guess I'm not most people. I want it to tell me when it is safe to pull it out.
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K aren -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of K0LNY Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2023 3:21 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: safe to eject is not speaking I'd say it is a feature, not a problem. Most people don't like that canned message. I ignore it. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2023 2:17 PM Subject: Re: safe to eject is not speaking I am getting this problem too. At first I thought it was a momentary glitch, but now that I see that someone else has this problem too, now I'm not so sure. Gene... On 2/17/2023 11:23 PM, Karen Reynolds wrote: I’m running latest Windows 11 and Jaws. I’ve noticed that since |
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K0LNY
Well if you copy and paste, and unless a file is very large, if they are all
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there, it's safe to eject. Glenn ----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Reynolds" <karenreynolds2061@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2023 3:44 PM Subject: Re: safe to eject is not speaking Guess I'm not most people. I want it to tell me when it is safe to pull it out. K aren -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of K0LNY Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2023 3:21 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: safe to eject is not speaking I'd say it is a feature, not a problem. Most people don't like that canned message. I ignore it. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2023 2:17 PM Subject: Re: safe to eject is not speaking I am getting this problem too. At first I thought it was a momentary glitch, but now that I see that someone else has this problem too, now I'm not so sure. Gene... On 2/17/2023 11:23 PM, Karen Reynolds wrote: I’m running latest Windows 11 and Jaws. I’ve noticed that since |
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Karen Reynolds
I've got that part figured out. Thought I would ask here to see if anyone knows. Might be time for a phone call to Microsoft.
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Karen -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of K0LNY Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2023 5:11 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: safe to eject is not speaking Well if you copy and paste, and unless a file is very large, if they are all there, it's safe to eject. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Reynolds" <karenreynolds2061@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2023 3:44 PM Subject: Re: safe to eject is not speaking Guess I'm not most people. I want it to tell me when it is safe to pull it out. K aren -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of K0LNY Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2023 3:21 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: safe to eject is not speaking I'd say it is a feature, not a problem. Most people don't like that canned message. I ignore it. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2023 2:17 PM Subject: Re: safe to eject is not speaking I am getting this problem too. At first I thought it was a momentary glitch, but now that I see that someone else has this problem too, now I'm not so sure. Gene... On 2/17/2023 11:23 PM, Karen Reynolds wrote: I’m running latest Windows 11 and Jaws. I’ve noticed that since |
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Mike Pietruk
I wonder if there is a msg on screen or just a visual affirmation, or
nothing at all. The question is whether there is no verbal indication because there is no corresponding msg being displayed on screen. |
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K0LNY
And the message does not display if the OS has scanned the card once before
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and it was "safely" ejected. The OS remembers volumes it has scanned. Glenn ----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Pietruk" <pietruk@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2023 5:21 PM Subject: Re: safe to eject is not speaking I wonder if there is a msg on screen or just a visual affirmation, or nothing at all. The question is whether there is no verbal indication because there is no corresponding msg being displayed on screen. |
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Mike B.
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Do you have Smart Help messages and Toasts turned
on in Settings Center default all applications / verboscity
settings?
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Note from a creditor: Dear Sir, Your account has been on our books for over a year. We want to remind you that we have now carried you longer than your mother did!" ----- Original Message -----
From: Karen Reynolds
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2023 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: safe to eject is not speaking Karen -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of K0LNY Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2023 5:11 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: safe to eject is not speaking Well if you copy and paste, and unless a file is very large, if they are all there, it's safe to eject. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Reynolds" <karenreynolds2061@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2023 3:44 PM Subject: Re: safe to eject is not speaking Guess I'm not most people. I want it to tell me when it is safe to pull it out. K aren -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of K0LNY Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2023 3:21 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: safe to eject is not speaking I'd say it is a feature, not a problem. Most people don't like that canned message. I ignore it. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2023 2:17 PM Subject: Re: safe to eject is not speaking I am getting this problem too. At first I thought it was a momentary glitch, but now that I see that someone else has this problem too, now I'm not so sure. Gene... On 2/17/2023 11:23 PM, Karen Reynolds wrote: > I’m running latest Windows 11 and Jaws. I’ve noticed that since > upgrading to Windows 11 Jaws no longer speaks that it is safe to remove > a thumb drive. It makes a sound for the SD cards but doesn’t say > anything. Where do I go to get this changed so Jaws will tell me it is > safe to remove the drive? > > Karen > > |
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TJ McElroy gMail
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I got these steps from the Microsoft Disability Help Desk ( 800 936 5900 ) To activate the ( safe to remove usb drive prompt ) in settings ( windows i ) tab and down arrow to personalization and press Enter tab until it gets to Background and down arrow to Taskbar and press Enter Press Tab until it gets you to Taskbar corner overflow and press Enter ** Tab to go to Windows Explorer for the USB drive and press spacebar to turn it on I had Microsoft walk me through the settings I also had Microsoft set the setting for me. When we tested the setting by inserting a usb drive, pressing the application key choosing eject ( the Microsoft tech said that he could see the notification ( safe to remove usb drive ) however I could not hear Jaws say the prompt that it was safe to remove the usb drive. So, in my experience, have Microsoft check and enable the setting for you once Microsoft has made the setting, do not forget to test the setting while the Microsoft tech is still on the phone press the application key choose eject from the list of options make sure they can see that the ( safe to remove usb drive has appeared on the screen ) try this more than once with the Microsoft tech on the phone ( in my case they could see the prompt, however I could not hear Jaws speak the prompt ) hopefully for you, you will be able to hear the prompt. I talked it over with the Microsoft tech it takes about one second from the time I choose eject from the list for the message / prompt to appear If you press the application key choose eject from the list wait about one to two seconds it is now safe to remove the drive hth, TJ On 2/18/2023 7:18 PM, Mike B. wrote: |
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Karen Reynolds
I was doing fine until I got to Taskbar corner overflow. It doesn’t exist on my laptop, or it is somewhere else.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of TJ McElroy gMail
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2023 9:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: safe to eject is not speaking
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Karen Reynolds
I couldn’t find smart help or toasts in the setting center.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2023 7:18 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: safe to eject is not speaking
Do you have Smart Help messages and Toasts turned on in Settings Center default all applications / verboscity settings?
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen Reynolds Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2023 2:34 PM Subject: Re: safe to eject is not speaking
I've got that part figured out. Thought I would ask here to see if anyone knows. Might be time for a phone call to Microsoft. |
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Mike B.
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Hi Karen,
Here are the steps.
1. A. If you want to change this setting only for a particular
application open the Settings Center by invoking the, Insert + 6, on the number
row keystroke
while in the application / program you want to work with. B. If you want to change this setting for all application open the Settings Center by invoking the, Insert + 6, on the number row keystroke, then press, control, shift + D, to open Settings Center default all
applications.
2. Down arrow to, Speech Verboscity closed and right arrow to open. 3. Down arrow 1 time and you'll hear, Verboscity level ... , the ... will be your verboscity level. It's probably on Beginner highest. This is important to know for step #5 so you know what level to open and work with. 4. Down arrow 1 time to, Configure Verboscity Level closed, and right arrow to open. 5. Down arrow to the level you're running and press the spacebar. Note: Do Not press enter, press the spacebar! If you press enter you'll get kicked out of the Settings Center because Jaws will think you're done in here and close. 6. After pressing the spacebar you'll be in a list of items that can be checked or unchecked to turn on or off. Smart Help is #21 and Toasts is #24. 7. After or if you make any changes tab to, Okay, press the spacebar, tab to, Apply, press the spacebar and tab to, Okay and press the spacebar or enter to save your changes and close. Also the new way to navigate the System Tray for Win11 22H2 is to
press, Windows key + B, as in boy, now right arrow to find system tray
icons if down arrowing isn't working, or at least this is what works for
me.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Note from a creditor: Dear Sir, Your account has been on our books for over a year. We want to remind you that we have now carried you longer than your mother did!" ----- Original Message -----
From: Karen Reynolds
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: safe to eject is not speaking I couldn’t find smart help or toasts in the setting center.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Do you have Smart Help messages and Toasts turned on in Settings Center default all applications / verboscity settings?
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen Reynolds Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2023 2:34 PM Subject: Re: safe to eject is not speaking
I've got that part figured out.
Thought I would ask here to see if anyone knows. Might be time for a phone call
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Mike B.
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Hi Karen,
Here you go, the correct steps.
Open settings with, windows key + I
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tab and down arrow to personalization and press
Enter
Now tab to, Other System Tray Icons collapsed,
show all settings button, and press the spacebar to expand this.
Tab 1 time into the list of options and down arrow
to, Safely remove hardware..., now tab 1 time to the on / off button, and press
the spacebar to toggle this button to, on.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Note from a creditor: Dear Sir, Your account has been on our books for over a year. We want to remind you that we have now carried you longer than your mother did!" ----- Original Message -----
From: Karen Reynolds
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: safe to eject is not speaking I was doing fine until I got to Taskbar corner overflow. It doesn’t exist on my laptop, or it is somewhere else.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
TJ McElroy gMail
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Karen Reynolds
Now I’m getting stuck sooner. There isn’t this step after personalization for me.
Now tab to, Other System Tray Icons collapsed, show all settings button, and press the spacebar to expand this.
I’m beginning to think it doesn’t exist for me. <smile> Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 6:58 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: safe to eject is not speaking
Hi Karen,
Here you go, the correct steps. Open settings with, windows key + I )
tab and down arrow to personalization and press Enter
Now tab to, Other System Tray Icons collapsed, show all settings button, and press the spacebar to expand this.
Tab 1 time into the list of options and down arrow to, Safely remove hardware..., now tab 1 time to the on / off button, and press the spacebar to toggle this button to, on. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen Reynolds Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 1:59 PM Subject: Re: safe to eject is not speaking
I was doing fine until I got to Taskbar corner overflow. It doesn’t exist on my laptop, or it is somewhere else.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of TJ McElroy gMail
Hi,
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Mike B.
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After you press enter on Personalization tab 3
times to, list box Background, and now down arrow to Taskbar and press
enter.
Now tab and you'll hear the following as copied
from Jaws history:
Taskbar
Taskbar items expanded Show all settings Button Search Button Off
Task view Button Off
Widgets Button Off
Chat Button Off
System tray icons expanded Show all settings Button List box Pen menu Pen menu Pen menu Button Off
Touch keyboard Touch keyboard Touch keyboard Button Off
Virtual touchpad Virtual touchpad Virtual touchpad Button Off
Other system tray icons collapsed Show all settings Button On the above press the spacebar to expand and tab
1 time into the list, down arrow to, Safell Remove..., tab one time to the on /
off button and press the spacebar to turn this on. If you don't need to
make any more changes just press, Alt + F4, to close. There isn't any
apply or okay buttons in this dialog.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Note from a creditor: Dear Sir, Your account has been on our books for over a year. We want to remind you that we have now carried you longer than your mother did!" ----- Original Message -----
From: Karen Reynolds
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2023 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: safe to eject is not speaking Now I’m getting stuck sooner. There isn’t this step after personalization for me.
Now tab to, Other System Tray Icons collapsed, show all settings button, and press the spacebar to expand this.
I’m beginning to think it doesn’t exist for me. <smile> Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Hi Karen,
Here you go, the correct steps. Open settings with, windows key + I )
tab and down arrow to personalization and press Enter
Now tab to, Other System Tray Icons collapsed, show all settings button, and press the spacebar to expand this.
Tab 1 time into the list of options and down arrow to, Safely remove hardware..., now tab 1 time to the on / off button, and press the spacebar to toggle this button to, on. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen Reynolds Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 1:59 PM Subject: Re: safe to eject is not speaking
I was doing fine until I got to Taskbar corner overflow. It doesn’t exist on my laptop, or it is somewhere else.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
TJ McElroy gMail
Hi,
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Karen Reynolds
This time I got it and turned that on. It seems to have moved it so that instead of up arrowing to get to it, now I down arrow to get to it. Still didn’t tell me it was ready to eject. Grrrr! <smile>
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2023 1:49 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: safe to eject is not speaking
After you press enter on Personalization tab 3 times to, list box Background, and now down arrow to Taskbar and press enter.
Now tab and you'll hear the following as copied from Jaws history: Taskbar
Off
Off
Off
Off
Off
Off
Off On the above press the spacebar to expand and tab 1 time into the list, down arrow to, Safell Remove..., tab one time to the on / off button and press the spacebar to turn this on. If you don't need to make any more changes just press, Alt + F4, to close. There isn't any apply or okay buttons in this dialog.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen Reynolds Sent: Monday, February 20, 2023 7:37 AM Subject: Re: safe to eject is not speaking
Now I’m getting stuck sooner. There isn’t this step after personalization for me.
Now tab to, Other System Tray Icons collapsed, show all settings button, and press the spacebar to expand this.
I’m beginning to think it doesn’t exist for me. <smile> Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Hi Karen,
Here you go, the correct steps. Open settings with, windows key + I )
tab and down arrow to personalization and press Enter
Now tab to, Other System Tray Icons collapsed, show all settings button, and press the spacebar to expand this.
Tab 1 time into the list of options and down arrow to, Safely remove hardware..., now tab 1 time to the on / off button, and press the spacebar to toggle this button to, on. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen Reynolds Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 1:59 PM Subject: Re: safe to eject is not speaking
I was doing fine until I got to Taskbar corner overflow. It doesn’t exist on my laptop, or it is somewhere else.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of TJ McElroy gMail
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Mike B.
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After pressing enter on the eject button I have to
Alt + Tab sometimes to hear the safe to eject message. Also there might be
another setting to change for Jaws to read the Toast messages, but I need to
look for
that and get back to
you. Also you can arrange the order in which the icons
show in the system tray, but I need to write different steps for
this.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Note from a creditor: Dear Sir, Your account has been on our books for over a year. We want to remind you that we have now carried you longer than your mother did!" ----- Original Message -----
From: Karen Reynolds
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2023 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: safe to eject is not speaking This time I got it and turned that on. It seems to have moved it so that instead of up arrowing to get to it, now I down arrow to get to it. Still didn’t tell me it was ready to eject. Grrrr! <smile>
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Mike B.
After you press enter on Personalization tab 3 times to, list box Background, and now down arrow to Taskbar and press enter.
Now tab and you'll hear the following as copied from Jaws history: Taskbar
Off
Off
Off
Off
Off
Off
Off On the above press the spacebar to expand and tab 1 time into the list, down arrow to, Safell Remove..., tab one time to the on / off button and press the spacebar to turn this on. If you don't need to make any more changes just press, Alt + F4, to close. There isn't any apply or okay buttons in this dialog.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen Reynolds Sent: Monday, February 20, 2023 7:37 AM Subject: Re: safe to eject is not speaking
Now I’m getting stuck sooner. There isn’t this step after personalization for me.
Now tab to, Other System Tray Icons collapsed, show all settings button, and press the spacebar to expand this.
I’m beginning to think it doesn’t exist for me. <smile> Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Hi Karen,
Here you go, the correct steps. Open settings with, windows key + I )
tab and down arrow to personalization and press Enter
Now tab to, Other System Tray Icons collapsed, show all settings button, and press the spacebar to expand this.
Tab 1 time into the list of options and down arrow to, Safely remove hardware..., now tab 1 time to the on / off button, and press the spacebar to toggle this button to, on. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen Reynolds Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 1:59 PM Subject: Re: safe to eject is not speaking
I was doing fine until I got to Taskbar corner overflow. It doesn’t exist on my laptop, or it is somewhere else.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
TJ McElroy gMail
Hi,
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