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reading without ads


Mario
 

in reading articles from a website using Chrome and Firefox, are there any extensions that filters out those pesky ads that may be included in the article. on occasion, I also would want to copy from the article.
please don't tell me to go look up what's available. I'm interested in asking the experts which one for each browser works well with JAWS or NVDA.


Mario
 

in reading articles from a website using Chrome and Firefox, are there any extensions that filters out those pesky ads that may be included in the article. on occasion, I also would want to copy from the article.
please don't tell me to go look up what's available. I'm interested in asking the experts which one for each browser works well with JAWS or NVDA.


Chris Hill
 

Well, nothing is going to get them all, because most add-ons are looking for things that don't come from the website your reading, and some will host ads natively.  I've been using adblockplus for years on any browser I can.  It stops a lot of them, especially if you set it to show no ads.  You may have to turn it off, unfortunately, to view the pages on some websites.  I keep edge without an ad blocker, and then if I need to read a site that won't let me I just bring it up in edge.



CH

On 2/21/2021 12:02, Mario wrote:
in reading articles from a website using Chrome and Firefox, are there any extensions that filters out those pesky ads that may be included in the article. on occasion, I also would want to copy from the article.
please don't tell me to go look up what's available. I'm interested in asking the experts which one for each browser works well with JAWS or NVDA.




Richard Turner
 

Once upon a time, control+alt+r in Firefox would put it in reader view that tried to do that.
I've pretty much been using Edge for a couple of years, so I do not know if that works now.

I use the Jaws marking the start of a section I want to copy, go to the end, use the select between marked place and current location and copy.
Then, I paste into a text editor like NoteTab Pro and edit out the junk.
Set mark is control+windows+k.
At the end, insert+space, then m, then control c to copy.




Richard

Ralph's Observation: It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 10:02 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: reading without ads

in reading articles from a website using Chrome and Firefox, are there any extensions that filters out those pesky ads that may be included in the article. on occasion, I also would want to copy from the article.
please don't tell me to go look up what's available. I'm interested in asking the experts which one for each browser works well with JAWS or NVDA.


 

uBlock Origin and uBlock Origin Extra are excellent ad blocking (among a couple of other things) tools for Chromium-based browsers that need them.

There are also a number of browsers, e.g., Brave and Vivaldi, that have heavy duty ad blocking and privacy measures built in to the browser.  Both of those happen to be Chromium-based, but I believe there are a couple that are Firefox-based as well.
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           ~ André Gide


Mario
 

so for Edge, I know there's the Imersive Reader that's built in. does that not work well?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Chris Hill [mailto:hillco@earthlink.net]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Sunday, February 21, 2021, 1:17 PM
Subject: reading without ads
Well, nothing is going to get them all, because most add-ons are looking
for things that don't come from the website your reading, and some will
host ads natively.  I've been using adblockplus for years on any browser
I can.  It stops a lot of them, especially if you set it to show no
ads.  You may have to turn it off, unfortunately, to view the pages on
some websites.  I keep edge without an ad blocker, and then if I need to
read a site that won't let me I just bring it up in edge.



CH


On 2/21/2021 12:02, Mario wrote:
in reading articles from a website using Chrome and Firefox, are there
any extensions that filters out those pesky ads that may be included
in the article. on occasion, I also would want to copy from the article.
please don't tell me to go look up what's available. I'm interested in
asking the experts which one for each browser works well with JAWS or
NVDA.










.


Mario
 

Brian, could you please expand on what those other tools are?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Sunday, February 21, 2021, 1:23 PM
Subject: reading without ads
uBlock Origin and uBlock Origin Extra are excellent ad blocking (among a
couple of other things) tools for Chromium-based browsers that need them.

There are also a number of browsers, e.g., Brave and Vivaldi, that have
heavy duty ad blocking and privacy measures built in to the browser.
Both of those happen to be Chromium-based, but I believe there are a
couple that are Firefox-based as well.
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Brian -Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

*One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the
shore for a very long time.*

~ André Gide


 

On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 01:56 PM, Mario wrote:
Brian, could you please expand on what those other tools are?
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See the uBlock Origin extension page in the Chrome Web Store.  It appears that the uBlock Origin Extra functionality has been rolled in to uBlock Origin.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


JM Casey
 

F9 always is what worked for me to enter reader view in Firefox. It still
works now.

It's necessary for people to understand the other side when it comes to ad
blockers, browser ad filtering, etc.
The creators of websites, and providers of information thereon, make most of
their money from ad revenue -- therefore even though the experience of an
adless internet life is pleasant for us (and I use uBlock Origin myself),
the object of content providers is going to be finding cleverer and better
ways of making sure we do see the ads, moving forward. So some of these
solutions may not work always and forever.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: February 21, 2021 01:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading without ads

Once upon a time, control+alt+r in Firefox would put it in reader view that
tried to do that.
I've pretty much been using Edge for a couple of years, so I do not know if
that works now.

I use the Jaws marking the start of a section I want to copy, go to the end,
use the select between marked place and current location and copy.
Then, I paste into a text editor like NoteTab Pro and edit out the junk.
Set mark is control+windows+k.
At the end, insert+space, then m, then control c to copy.




Richard

Ralph's Observation: It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 10:02 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: reading without ads

in reading articles from a website using Chrome and Firefox, are there any
extensions that filters out those pesky ads that may be included in the
article. on occasion, I also would want to copy from the article.
please don't tell me to go look up what's available. I'm interested in
asking the experts which one for each browser works well with JAWS or NVDA.


Chris Hill
 

I have never actually tried the emersive reader in edge.  I prefer to send my data to nobody, or google, rather than microsoft.

On 2/21/2021 12:28, Mario wrote:
so for Edge, I know there's the Imersive Reader that's built in. does that not work well?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Chris Hill [mailto:hillco@earthlink.net]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Sunday, February 21, 2021, 1:17 PM
Subject: reading without ads
Well, nothing is going to get them all, because most add-ons are looking
for things that don't come from the website your reading, and some will
host ads natively.  I've been using adblockplus for years on any browser
I can.  It stops a lot of them, especially if you set it to show no
ads.  You may have to turn it off, unfortunately, to view the pages on
some websites.  I keep edge without an ad blocker, and then if I need to
read a site that won't let me I just bring it up in edge.



CH


On 2/21/2021 12:02, Mario wrote:
in reading articles from a website using Chrome and Firefox, are there
any extensions that filters out those pesky ads that may be included
in the article. on occasion, I also would want to copy from the article.
please don't tell me to go look up what's available. I'm interested in
asking the experts which one for each browser works well with JAWS or
NVDA.










.





 

On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 03:37 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
I prefer to send my data to nobody, or google, rather than microsoft.
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Not that not wanting to share data doesn't make sense, but in the context being discussed the data is already known.

Google is the worst among the "all knowing" software houses.  What you browse in Chrome is tracked, and analyzed to death.  Once you've loaded a page, they know you've been there.  They also know what's on that page.

I really don't know how much of something similar may or may not be going on with Edge, as I haven't kept up with it.  But by the time you're on a page they have what they want, if they want it.  An immersive reader does nothing beyond prettifying what's already on that webpage to make it easier to read.  And that doesn't matter what browser we're discussing.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


 

On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 02:09 PM, JM Casey wrote:
the object of content providers is going to be finding cleverer and better
ways of making sure we do see the ads, moving forward.
-
And the ad-blockers keep adding new tricks to block as well.

I have never, for a single second, felt the slightest bit of guilt about ad blocking.  Content providers should be paid, much like newspapers were, for having placed the ad combined with a visit count for the page.  In print media, one was never guaranteed that what was circulated meant that there would be literal eyes-on for the advertising in that media.  Payment was for placement and the amount determined by circulation.  Now, in cyberspace, circulation can be calculated as page hits.  But the fact that someone visits a page should be enough.

I have every right not to download anything to my computer that I do not wish to download.  And given the intrusive nature of online advertising, that's why I block it.  Since I can see, the incessant blinking, scrolling, animation, etc., etc., that goes with online advertising is the worst kind of visual clutter that distracts from my primary purpose for being anywhere.  If much or most of it did not behave in that manner, I'd probably never have started using an ad blocker to begin with.  Stuff that just sits quietly in it's own little box that the content flows around can be easily ignored, but that style was getting increasingly infrequent.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


JM Casey
 

OH, I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said – except I guess I do feel some – not guilt maybe, but reservations. It’s not enough to stop me from using an ad blocker, but simultaneously I do feel a bit selfish for doing so sometimes. This is especially rue on youtube, where I just don’t get ads played, period. I know people who make revenue from their channels this way. I know a couple of guys who work in the newspaper industry and they say they are really caught between a rock and a hard place with this stuff – page hits just aren’t enough for these people. I don’t really know what tehh solution is, but for sure I am not going to struggle to the point of pain just to read what should be a simple webpage, and ads that play concurrently with your attempting to read an article etc do mess up screen-readers pretty badly sometimes – anything from slowing them down drastically to causing the reading position to jump around in unpredictable ways.

 

But, the war goes on! Yes, finding ways for ads to be far less intrusive would seem to solve a lot of everyone’s problems.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: February 21, 2021 03:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading without ads

 

On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 02:09 PM, JM Casey wrote:

the object of content providers is going to be finding cleverer and better
ways of making sure we do see the ads, moving forward.

-
And the ad-blockers keep adding new tricks to block as well.

I have never, for a single second, felt the slightest bit of guilt about ad blocking.  Content providers should be paid, much like newspapers were, for having placed the ad combined with a visit count for the page.  In print media, one was never guaranteed that what was circulated meant that there would be literal eyes-on for the advertising in that media.  Payment was for placement and the amount determined by circulation.  Now, in cyberspace, circulation can be calculated as page hits.  But the fact that someone visits a page should be enough.

I have every right not to download anything to my computer that I do not wish to download.  And given the intrusive nature of online advertising, that's why I block it.  Since I can see, the incessant blinking, scrolling, animation, etc., etc., that goes with online advertising is the worst kind of visual clutter that distracts from my primary purpose for being anywhere.  If much or most of it did not behave in that manner, I'd probably never have started using an ad blocker to begin with.  Stuff that just sits quietly in it's own little box that the content flows around can be easily ignored, but that style was getting increasingly infrequent.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


John Covici
 

Using edge, if you hit f9, you get the imersive reader which so far
has worked great for me.

On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 16:06:52 -0500,
JM Casey wrote:

[1 <text/plain; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
OH, I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said – except I guess I do feel some – not guilt maybe, but reservations. It’s not enough to stop me from using an ad blocker, but simultaneously I do feel a bit selfish for doing so sometimes. This is especially rue on youtube, where I just don’t get ads played, period. I know people who make revenue from their channels this way. I know a couple of guys who work in the newspaper industry and they say they are really caught between a rock and a hard place with this stuff – page hits just aren’t enough for these people. I don’t really know what tehh solution is, but for sure I am not going to struggle to the point of pain just to read what should be a simple webpage, and ads that play concurrently with your attempting to read an article etc do mess up screen-readers pretty badly sometimes – anything from slowing them down drastically to causing the reading position to jump around in unpredictable ways.



But, the war goes on! Yes, finding ways for ads to be far less intrusive would seem to solve a lot of everyone’s problems.







From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: February 21, 2021 03:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading without ads



On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 02:09 PM, JM Casey wrote:

the object of content providers is going to be finding cleverer and better
ways of making sure we do see the ads, moving forward.

-
And the ad-blockers keep adding new tricks to block as well.

I have never, for a single second, felt the slightest bit of guilt about ad blocking. Content providers should be paid, much like newspapers were, for having placed the ad combined with a visit count for the page. In print media, one was never guaranteed that what was circulated meant that there would be literal eyes-on for the advertising in that media. Payment was for placement and the amount determined by circulation. Now, in cyberspace, circulation can be calculated as page hits. But the fact that someone visits a page should be enough.

I have every right not to download anything to my computer that I do not wish to download. And given the intrusive nature of online advertising, that's why I block it. Since I can see, the incessant blinking, scrolling, animation, etc., etc., that goes with online advertising is the worst kind of visual clutter that distracts from my primary purpose for being anywhere. If much or most of it did not behave in that manner, I'd probably never have started using an ad blocker to begin with. Stuff that just sits quietly in it's own little box that the content flows around can be easily ignored, but that style was getting increasingly infrequent.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

~ André Gide








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Jim Pursley
 

Ditto. It seems to be the same reader available on Firefox, as /F9 initiates the reader there.

One little foible. The reader, at least the Immersive reader on Edge, don't always read an entire article. When the reader encounters an ad in mid article, the text stops there. the NYT has inl8ine ads in their articles. A minor thing, I think.Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 6:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading without ads

Using edge, if you hit f9, you get the imersive reader which so far has worked great for me.

On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 16:06:52 -0500,
JM Casey wrote:

[1 <text/plain; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>] OH, I don’t disagree with
anything you’ve said – except I guess I do feel some – not guilt maybe, but reservations. It’s not enough to stop me from using an ad blocker, but simultaneously I do feel a bit selfish for doing so sometimes. This is especially rue on youtube, where I just don’t get ads played, period. I know people who make revenue from their channels this way. I know a couple of guys who work in the newspaper industry and they say they are really caught between a rock and a hard place with this stuff – page hits just aren’t enough for these people. I don’t really know what tehh solution is, but for sure I am not going to struggle to the point of pain just to read what should be a simple webpage, and ads that play concurrently with your attempting to read an article etc do mess up screen-readers pretty badly sometimes – anything from slowing them down drastically to causing the reading position to jump around in unpredictable ways.



But, the war goes on! Yes, finding ways for ads to be far less intrusive would seem to solve a lot of everyone’s problems.







From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: February 21, 2021 03:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading without ads



On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 02:09 PM, JM Casey wrote:

the object of content providers is going to be finding cleverer and
better ways of making sure we do see the ads, moving forward.

-
And the ad-blockers keep adding new tricks to block as well.

I have never, for a single second, felt the slightest bit of guilt about ad blocking. Content providers should be paid, much like newspapers were, for having placed the ad combined with a visit count for the page. In print media, one was never guaranteed that what was circulated meant that there would be literal eyes-on for the advertising in that media. Payment was for placement and the amount determined by circulation. Now, in cyberspace, circulation can be calculated as page hits. But the fact that someone visits a page should be enough.

I have every right not to download anything to my computer that I do not wish to download. And given the intrusive nature of online advertising, that's why I block it. Since I can see, the incessant blinking, scrolling, animation, etc., etc., that goes with online advertising is the worst kind of visual clutter that distracts from my primary purpose for being anywhere. If much or most of it did not behave in that manner, I'd probably never have started using an ad blocker to begin with. Stuff that just sits quietly in it's own little box that the content flows around can be easily ignored, but that style was getting increasingly infrequent.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

~ André Gide








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you spend it?

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covici@ccs.covici.com


leonard morris
 

I am not sure about Chrome or Firefox. However, Microsoft Edge has a feature called emersive reader. You click the f9 key and you can either scroll down to the beginning of an article and read using the screen reader or click on the read outloud feature and a female TTS voice will read the article without the adds. You should be able to copy and paste the article if you want to do so.

On 2/22/2021 2:01 AM, Mario wrote:
in reading articles from a website using Chrome and Firefox, are there any extensions that filters out those pesky ads that may be included in the article. on occasion, I also would want to copy from the article.
please don't tell me to go look up what's available. I'm interested in asking the experts which one for each browser works well with JAWS or NVDA.



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Jason White
 

This scenario is one use case for the JAWS Flexible Web feature. I would suggest looking up the details in the JAWS Help Topics. I don't know whether there are any tutorials or associated documentation for it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Sunday, 21 February 2021 13:01
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: reading without ads

in reading articles from a website using Chrome and Firefox, are there any extensions that filters out those pesky ads that may be included in the article. on occasion, I also would want to copy from the article.
please don't tell me to go look up what's available. I'm interested in asking the experts which one for each browser works well with JAWS or NVDA.


Mario
 

Leonard, does the Imersiv Reader work well, or does it let some ads remain? also, I'd like to know if it can eliminate graphics?

-------- Original Message --------
From: leonard morris [mailto:lmorris1953@gmail.com]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Sunday, February 21, 2021, 2:58 PM
Subject: reading without ads
I am not sure about Chrome or Firefox. However, Microsoft Edge has a
feature called emersive reader. You click the f9 key and you can either
scroll down to the beginning of an article and read using the screen
reader or click on the read outloud feature and a female TTS voice will
read the article without the adds. You should be able to copy and paste
the article if you want to do so.
On 2/22/2021 2:01 AM, Mario wrote:
in reading articles from a website using Chrome and Firefox, are there
any extensions that filters out those pesky ads that may be included
in the article. on occasion, I also would want to copy from the article.
please don't tell me to go look up what's available. I'm interested in
asking the experts which one for each browser works well with JAWS or
NVDA.


leonard morris
 

I do believe adds get removed but I do not recall what happens with graphics. However, I think you will be pleased just how well pages are rendered. 

Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.

On Feb 23, 2021, at 12:33 AM, Mario <mrb620@...> wrote:

Leonard, does the Imersiv Reader work well, or does it let some ads remain? also, I'd like to know if it can eliminate graphics?

-------- Original Message --------
From: leonard morris [mailto:lmorris1953@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Sunday, February 21, 2021, 2:58 PM
Subject: reading without ads
I am not sure about Chrome or Firefox. However, Microsoft Edge has a
feature called emersive reader. You click the f9 key and you can either
scroll down to the beginning of an article and read using the screen
reader or click on the read outloud feature and a female TTS voice will
read the article without the adds. You should be able to copy and paste
the article if you want to do so.
On 2/22/2021 2:01 AM, Mario wrote:
in reading articles from a website using Chrome and Firefox, are there
any extensions that filters out those pesky ads that may be included
in the article. on occasion, I also would want to copy from the article.
please don't tell me to go look up what's available. I'm interested in
asking the experts which one for each browser works well with JAWS or
NVDA.














 

And why not just try it, it's already there for you in Edge and you just have to press F9 to reformat the page, as Leonard said, it works extremely well.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of leonard morris
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 11:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading without ads

 

I do believe adds get removed but I do not recall what happens with graphics. However, I think you will be pleased just how well pages are rendered. 

Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.



On Feb 23, 2021, at 12:33 AM, Mario <mrb620@...> wrote:

Leonard, does the Imersiv Reader work well, or does it let some ads remain? also, I'd like to know if it can eliminate graphics?

-------- Original Message --------
From: leonard morris [mailto:lmorris1953@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Sunday, February 21, 2021, 2:58 PM
Subject: reading without ads
I am not sure about Chrome or Firefox. However, Microsoft Edge has a
feature called emersive reader. You click the f9 key and you can either
scroll down to the beginning of an article and read using the screen
reader or click on the read outloud feature and a female TTS voice will
read the article without the adds. You should be able to copy and paste
the article if you want to do so.
On 2/22/2021 2:01 AM, Mario wrote:
in reading articles from a website using Chrome and Firefox, are there
any extensions that filters out those pesky ads that may be included
in the article. on occasion, I also would want to copy from the article.
please don't tell me to go look up what's available. I'm interested in
asking the experts which one for each browser works well with JAWS or
NVDA.