moderated Question about JAWS at job interviews


Juan Hernandez
 

HI Michael,

I always take a laptop to any in-person interview. I try to make things as easy for myself and the company I am interviewing with. I feel like it shows a good sense of responsibility and preparedness, and often times like 95% of the time they will ask how do you do your work, and its cool to show the screen reader and braille display if you use one. That’s my two cents, I am sure others will disagree with me. But that is how I've found success.

Best and good luck!

Juan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 3:29 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi,


When you went to job interviews, did you bring your own laptop with JAWS, or did the employer provide JAWS as an interview accommodation? I currently only have a desktop, but am willing to obtain a laptop. I am assuming that I cannot expect any interview accommodations, and that I should be prepared. Any thoughts?


Thank you,

Mike


Juan Hernandez
 

They are required, but most of the time they will find reasons not to bring you in if you become troublesome. That is just my experience.

It is the sad state of the world . ☹

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rod
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 4:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Why would you need to bring a laptop to the interview?

Employers are required to provide reasonable accommodations at all stages in the employment process.

Do you have specific concerns?

Rod,



Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:28 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi,


When you went to job interviews, did you bring your own laptop with JAWS, or did the employer provide JAWS as an interview accommodation? I currently only have a desktop, but am willing to obtain a laptop. I am assuming that I cannot expect any interview accommodations, and that I should be prepared. Any thoughts?


Thank you,

Mike


 

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 07:33 PM, Rod wrote:
Why would you need to bring a laptop to the interview?

Employers are required to provide reasonable accommodations at all stages in the employment process.
-
I am not saying one is, or is not, required to bring any specific thing to an interview.  That being said, whatever it is that you would typically use as your at-home note-taking method is something you should have.  There's nothing wrong with taking notes during an interview.

And, getting away from the legalistic side of things, you have to realize that many employers have no idea what reasonable accommodations are (regardless of the specific disability involved) because they've never had to provide them in the past.  And even those that do know about screen readers, braille displays, and the like are very unlikely to have same available to you during an interview process unless some formal on-computer exercise is a part of their process, and it seldom is.

There is the distinct possibility that you can impress them, greatly, with your own impromptu demonstration of your own technology and using it for tasks routine to the setting in which your seeking employment.  Many individuals have never, ever seen or heard a screen reader or encountered someone using one.  And that's not due to malice, but because those who do use this technology are a small, very small, minority of the world as a whole.  It's unrealistic to expect that your average Joe or Jane "on the street, or in the office" will have even the slightest exposure to assistive technologies.

And none of the above is saying or suggesting you must, or should, feel pressured to put on the proverbial "dog and pony show."  If you don't think that anything specifically related to technology or the use of same will come up as part of an interview then leaving everything at home is fine.  But if you suspect is might, being able to put on your own display to impress them certainly is not going to hurt.

Most sighted people are completely ignorant about what individuals who are blind are capable of.  And that's because they don't know any, and it's very easy to go through life not knowing anyone who's blind beyond the very infrequent casual encounter.  Strutting your stuff in an interview is a part of what's expected, along with tooting your own horn.  It's not a time for modesty, but for showing what you've got that the employer wants.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


Rod
 

Excellent clarification, Justin. Indeed, if all that happens is you having to answer questions, you do not want to prematurely start talking about accommodations.

Prepare to use all surprises to your advantage. If they ask you: "was it difficult to find our office." Use that as an invitation to educate by referring to capturing the train, the fact that you allotted sufficient time to ensure that you got there on time, etc..

you are interviewing. Every interaction from the time you enter the building is part of the interview, use it to your advantage.


Rod,



Rod Alcidonis, Esq.

-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Williams
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 12:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Be careful about asking about accommodations in an interview if all that is
required is that you answer questions.
You only get accommodations if necessary during the interview process, or
when you get the job.

Thanks,

Justin


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lori Lynn
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi,

What kind of job are you applying for? If you will have to take a test at
the time of the interview then ask them about accommodations in advance.
However, if the interview is just that, asking and answering questions, then
I would ask about accommodations during the interview.

All of my work history was with the Federal government and they always had
accommodations available.

Good luck with the interview.

Lori Lynn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 5:29 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi,


When you went to job interviews, did you bring your own laptop with JAWS, or
did the employer provide JAWS as an interview accommodation? I currently
only have a desktop, but am willing to obtain a laptop. I am assuming that I
cannot expect any interview accommodations, and that I should be prepared.
Any thoughts?


Thank you,

Mike


Rod
 

I am a musician. I do not go into interviews feeling that I need to talk about this. However, when conversations naturally lead to that as being relevant, I share that background.

I do the same thing with my visual impairment. you need to contextualize how and when you address it. After a few interviews under your belt, you will begin to identify the appropriate spot to get it out of the way and make your interviewer comfortable.

I have been in interview situations where my visual impairment was frankly irrelevant. It never came up as an issue because I was referencing my accomplishments in previous positions while responding to questions.








Rod Alcidonis, Esq.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Walker
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 4:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Rod,

I do focus on my qualifications. I am also just trying to be as prepared as possible. It is helpful to hear others’ perspectives on this, for that reason. At my last company, I was a programmer analyst. They did a phone interview, and I was hired. Therefore, other formats will be new to me. For others who asked, I will likely apply for jobs like programming and database positions.

Best regards,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 9:49 PM, Rod <rodalcidonis@gmail.com> wrote:

Mike:

I understand your concerns but I would advise you to focus on your qualifications for the job irrespective of your blindness. You cannot control how anyone will act once they find out that you are blind. Go in there with the attitude that you are the best candidate for the role. if that is in fact the case, your blindness will not matter. this may be difficult for you to pull off at the beginning but this will help you with your career down the road.

It is self-defeating to spend precious time anticipating what others reaction will be about you while you could have been preparing to impress them at the interview with your knowledge, skills, and abilities.





Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 8:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Pam,

This is very helpful. How did your employer for the database administrator position react, when you told them you were blind? How do you know when you should disclose your blindness? What other jobs did you have before that position?

Thank you,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 7:15 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND <pamela.a.ekstrand.-nd@disney.com> wrote:

Mike,

It was for a database administrator job, so they asked a lot of technical questions. They had already done a preliminary interview by phone, and flew me out to where they were located, so I had told them I was blind. We had a good discussion about how I was able to do my work, but I did not take a laptop with me. I actually am not sure what I would have shown them, since I would not have had access to their systems at that point. They also contacted a few references which I provided that were previous employers.

Let me know if there is anything else I can help with.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker via groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 7:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Rod,

Technical interviews may require coding exercises. I am not sure how people who can see do those. At my prior programming job, it was just a phone interview.

Pam, what did they do at your in-person interview?

Thank you,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:33 PM, Rod <rodalcidonis@gmail.com> wrote:
Why would you need to bring a laptop to the interview?

Employers are required to provide reasonable accommodations at all stages in the employment process.

Do you have specific concerns?

Rod,



Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:28 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi,


When you went to job interviews, did you bring your own laptop with
JAWS, or did the employer provide JAWS as an interview accommodation? I
currently only have a desktop, but am willing to obtain a laptop. I am
assuming that I cannot expect any interview accommodations, and that I
should be prepared. Any thoughts?


Thank you,

Mike

























Michael Walker
 

Hi Rod,


Your situation sounds similar to mine. At my previous job which was also my first to have to deal with interviewing as a programmer analyst, I did not disclose my disability on the application, before, or during the interview. The interview was just me answering questions about the job. I only disclosed that I was blind after accepting the job offer, so I could get permission to install JAWS on the company laptop. I wanted to keep everything as job relevant as possible.


Mike

On 6/29/2021 3:54 PM, Rod wrote:
I am a musician. I do not go into interviews feeling that I need to talk about this. However, when conversations naturally lead to that as being relevant, I share that background.

I do the same thing with my visual impairment. you need to contextualize how and when you address it. After a few interviews under your belt, you will begin to identify the appropriate spot to get it out of the way and make your interviewer comfortable.

I have been in interview situations where my visual impairment was frankly irrelevant. It never came up as an issue because I was referencing my accomplishments in previous positions while responding to questions.








Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Walker
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 4:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Rod,

I do focus on my qualifications. I am also just trying to be as prepared as possible. It is helpful to hear others’ perspectives on this, for that reason. At my last company, I was a programmer analyst. They did a phone interview, and I was hired. Therefore, other formats will be new to me. For others who asked, I will likely apply for jobs like programming and database positions.

Best regards,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 9:49 PM, Rod <rodalcidonis@gmail.com> wrote:

Mike:

I understand your concerns but I would advise you to focus on your qualifications for the job irrespective of your blindness. You cannot control how anyone will act once they find out that you are blind. Go in there with the attitude that you are the best candidate for the role. if that is in fact the case, your blindness will not matter. this may be difficult for you to pull off at the beginning but this will help you with your career down the road.

It is self-defeating to spend precious time anticipating what others reaction will be about you while you could have been preparing to impress them at the interview with your knowledge, skills, and abilities.





Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 8:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Pam,

This is very helpful. How did your employer for the database administrator position react, when you told them you were blind? How do you know when you should disclose your blindness? What other jobs did you have before that position?

Thank you,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 7:15 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND <pamela.a.ekstrand.-nd@disney.com> wrote:

Mike,

It was for a database administrator job, so they asked a lot of technical questions.  They had already done a preliminary interview by phone, and flew me out to where they were located, so I had told them I was blind. We had a good discussion about how I was able to do my work, but I did not take a laptop with me.  I actually am not sure what I would have shown them, since I would not have had access to their systems at that point. They also contacted a few references which I provided that were previous employers.

Let me know if there is anything else I can help with.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker via groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 7:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Rod,

Technical interviews may require coding exercises. I am not sure how people who can see do those. At my prior programming job, it was just a phone interview.

Pam, what did they do at your in-person interview?

Thank you,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:33 PM, Rod <rodalcidonis@gmail.com> wrote:
Why would you need to bring a laptop to the interview?

Employers are required to provide reasonable accommodations at all stages in the employment process.

Do you have specific concerns?

Rod,



Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:28 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi,


When you went to job interviews, did you bring your own laptop with
JAWS, or did the employer provide JAWS as an interview accommodation? I
currently only have a desktop, but am willing to obtain a laptop. I am
assuming that I cannot expect any interview accommodations, and that I
should be prepared. Any thoughts?


Thank you,

Mike
































JM Casey
 

I've never had JAWS provided at an interview. However, if testing of some kind is needed, I've have been successful in getting nVDA installed on a single, test computer for this purpose. Narrator may also work for some cases. Mileage will certainly vary based on where you're aiming to work (I imagine big government orgs and maybe some companies will possibly already have JAWS licenses), but it's kind of like when you are applying for a home rental (in my possibly narrow experience anyway) -- at this point they're not an employer yet, so they really are not bound to extend anything to you. I would bring the laptop, and keep it in your bag, but take it out if it's necessary to take notes. It's likely they wil want any sort of testing to be doen on one of their own machines, but maybe that depends on what's needed. Just be open and project assurredness that you are the man for the job.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: June 28, 2021 06:29 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi,


When you went to job interviews, did you bring your own laptop with JAWS, or did the employer provide JAWS as an interview accommodation? I currently only have a desktop, but am willing to obtain a laptop. I am assuming that I cannot expect any interview accommodations, and that I should be prepared. Any thoughts?


Thank you,

Mike


Dave Durber
 

Michael:

In the late 1960's, I applied for a job on the factory floor at a factory which made components for both the aircraft and shipping industries. I did not tell them about my visual impairment before I went to the interview. Before the interview, I made it my business to find out as much as I could about the company and what they did . In addition, I borrowed some tools I might need for the job, which had been adapted for someone who was visually impaired to work in such a position.
They did not seem to be put out that I had not mentioned my visual impairment on my application, and after assking me some questions, including what I knew about the company, they asked how I would operate machinery such as, capston lathes, milling machines, power presses, etc. In addition, they asked how I would measure components, to make sure they met the tollerences, demanded by the job. I then showed them the tools I brought with me. They then asked me if I would show them how I would use the tools. I must have done what was required because, I was offered the job on the spot. And lastly, they told me that I was the only applicant who had taken the time to research the company before attending the interview.

If I was in the job market today, regardless as to whether I informed a prospective employer of my visual impairment or not, I would make sure I took a memory stick with a copy of both JAWS and NVDA on it, to the interview with me. Generally, with most countries around the world,there is not a legal requirement to inform employers of one's handicap/disability, I think I would be more inclined to do so because, it would give employers time to prepare reasonable accommodation/adjustment, for applicants who are handicapped/disabled, especially for I T departments to obtain and install demonstration versions of specialist software, such as screen readers, etc.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Walker" <michael.walker199014@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews


Hi Rod,


Your situation sounds similar to mine. At my previous job which was also my first to have to deal with interviewing as a programmer analyst, I did not disclose my disability on the application, before, or during the interview. The interview was just me answering questions about the job. I only disclosed that I was blind after accepting the job offer, so I could get permission to install JAWS on the company laptop. I wanted to keep everything as job relevant as possible.


Mike

On 6/29/2021 3:54 PM, Rod wrote:
I am a musician. I do not go into interviews feeling that I need to talk about this. However, when conversations naturally lead to that as being relevant, I share that background.

I do the same thing with my visual impairment. you need to contextualize how and when you address it. After a few interviews under your belt, you will begin to identify the appropriate spot to get it out of the way and make your interviewer comfortable.

I have been in interview situations where my visual impairment was frankly irrelevant. It never came up as an issue because I was referencing my accomplishments in previous positions while responding to questions.








Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Walker
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 4:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Rod,

I do focus on my qualifications. I am also just trying to be as prepared as possible. It is helpful to hear others’ perspectives on this, for that reason. At my last company, I was a programmer analyst. They did a phone interview, and I was hired. Therefore, other formats will be new to me. For others who asked, I will likely apply for jobs like programming and database positions.

Best regards,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 9:49 PM, Rod <rodalcidonis@gmail.com> wrote:

Mike:

I understand your concerns but I would advise you to focus on your qualifications for the job irrespective of your blindness. You cannot control how anyone will act once they find out that you are blind. Go in there with the attitude that you are the best candidate for the role. if that is in fact the case, your blindness will not matter. this may be difficult for you to pull off at the beginning but this will help you with your career down the road.

It is self-defeating to spend precious time anticipating what others reaction will be about you while you could have been preparing to impress them at the interview with your knowledge, skills, and abilities.





Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 8:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Pam,

This is very helpful. How did your employer for the database administrator position react, when you told them you were blind? How do you know when you should disclose your blindness? What other jobs did you have before that position?

Thank you,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 7:15 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND <pamela.a.ekstrand.-nd@disney.com> wrote:

Mike,

It was for a database administrator job, so they asked a lot of technical questions. They had already done a preliminary interview by phone, and flew me out to where they were located, so I had told them I was blind. We had a good discussion about how I was able to do my work, but I did not take a laptop with me. I actually am not sure what I would have shown them, since I would not have had access to their systems at that point. They also contacted a few references which I provided that were previous employers.

Let me know if there is anything else I can help with.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker via groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 7:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Rod,

Technical interviews may require coding exercises. I am not sure how people who can see do those. At my prior programming job, it was just a phone interview.

Pam, what did they do at your in-person interview?

Thank you,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:33 PM, Rod <rodalcidonis@gmail.com> wrote:
Why would you need to bring a laptop to the interview?

Employers are required to provide reasonable accommodations at all stages in the employment process.

Do you have specific concerns?

Rod,



Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:28 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi,


When you went to job interviews, did you bring your own laptop with
JAWS, or did the employer provide JAWS as an interview accommodation? I
currently only have a desktop, but am willing to obtain a laptop. I am
assuming that I cannot expect any interview accommodations, and that I
should be prepared. Any thoughts?


Thank you,

Mike


































Justin Williams
 

If you are going to tell them, wait until you have been given the interview.

I would tell them, then possibly, but only then.

Thanks,

Justin

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 6:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Michael:

In the late 1960's, I applied for a job on the factory floor at a factory which made components for both the aircraft and shipping industries. I did not tell them about my visual impairment before I went to the interview.
Before the interview, I made it my business to find out as much as I could about the company and what they did . In addition, I borrowed some tools I might need for the job, which had been adapted for someone who was visually impaired to work in such a position.
They did not seem to be put out that I had not mentioned my visual impairment on my application, and after assking me some questions, including what I knew about the company, they asked how I would operate machinery such as, capston lathes, milling machines, power presses, etc. In addition, they asked how I would measure components, to make sure they met the tollerences, demanded by the job. I then showed them the tools I brought with me. They then asked me if I would show them how I would use the tools. I must have done what was required because, I was offered the job on the spot. And lastly, they told me that I was the only applicant who had taken the time to research the company before attending the interview.

If I was in the job market today, regardless as to whether I informed a prospective employer of my visual impairment or not, I would make sure I took a memory stick with a copy of both JAWS and NVDA on it, to the interview with me. Generally, with most countries around the world,there is not a legal requirement to inform employers of one's handicap/disability, I think I would be more inclined to do so because, it would give employers time to prepare reasonable accommodation/adjustment, for applicants who are handicapped/disabled, especially for I T departments to obtain and install demonstration versions of specialist software, such as screen readers, etc.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Walker" <michael.walker199014@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews


Hi Rod,


Your situation sounds similar to mine. At my previous job which was also
my first to have to deal with interviewing as a programmer analyst, I did
not disclose my disability on the application, before, or during the
interview. The interview was just me answering questions about the job. I
only disclosed that I was blind after accepting the job offer, so I could
get permission to install JAWS on the company laptop. I wanted to keep
everything as job relevant as possible.


Mike

On 6/29/2021 3:54 PM, Rod wrote:
I am a musician. I do not go into interviews feeling that I need to talk
about this. However, when conversations naturally lead to that as being
relevant, I share that background.

I do the same thing with my visual impairment. you need to contextualize
how and when you address it. After a few interviews under your belt, you
will begin to identify the appropriate spot to get it out of the way and
make your interviewer comfortable.

I have been in interview situations where my visual impairment was
frankly irrelevant. It never came up as an issue because I was
referencing my accomplishments in previous positions while responding to
questions.








Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Walker
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 4:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Rod,

I do focus on my qualifications. I am also just trying to be as prepared
as possible. It is helpful to hear others’ perspectives on this, for that
reason. At my last company, I was a programmer analyst. They did a phone
interview, and I was hired. Therefore, other formats will be new to me.
For others who asked, I will likely apply for jobs like programming and
database positions.

Best regards,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 9:49 PM, Rod <rodalcidonis@gmail.com> wrote:

Mike:

I understand your concerns but I would advise you to focus on your
qualifications for the job irrespective of your blindness. You cannot
control how anyone will act once they find out that you are blind. Go in
there with the attitude that you are the best candidate for the role. if
that is in fact the case, your blindness will not matter. this may be
difficult for you to pull off at the beginning but this will help you
with your career down the road.

It is self-defeating to spend precious time anticipating what others
reaction will be about you while you could have been preparing to
impress them at the interview with your knowledge, skills, and
abilities.





Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 8:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Pam,

This is very helpful. How did your employer for the database
administrator position react, when you told them you were blind? How do
you know when you should disclose your blindness? What other jobs did
you have before that position?

Thank you,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 7:15 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
<pamela.a.ekstrand.-nd@disney.com> wrote:

Mike,

It was for a database administrator job, so they asked a lot of
technical questions. They had already done a preliminary interview by
phone, and flew me out to where they were located, so I had told them I
was blind. We had a good discussion about how I was able to do my work,
but I did not take a laptop with me. I actually am not sure what I
would have shown them, since I would not have had access to their
systems at that point. They also contacted a few references which I
provided that were previous employers.

Let me know if there is anything else I can help with.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Walker via groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 7:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Rod,

Technical interviews may require coding exercises. I am not sure how
people who can see do those. At my prior programming job, it was just a
phone interview.

Pam, what did they do at your in-person interview?

Thank you,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:33 PM, Rod <rodalcidonis@gmail.com> wrote:
Why would you need to bring a laptop to the interview?

Employers are required to provide reasonable accommodations at all
stages in the employment process.

Do you have specific concerns?

Rod,



Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:28 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi,


When you went to job interviews, did you bring your own laptop with
JAWS, or did the employer provide JAWS as an interview accommodation?
I
currently only have a desktop, but am willing to obtain a laptop. I am
assuming that I cannot expect any interview accommodations, and that I
should be prepared. Any thoughts?


Thank you,

Mike



































Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

I think offering pen and paper is something no employer would have a problem with, but that is magnitudes different from expecting somebody to buy a Jaws licence and have a laptop ready for somebody who comes in for an interview and who may or may not get the job.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 3:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

 

I would never expect an employer to offer a laptop as an interview tool.

If you go to an interview, and you expect to take notes; you should take your note taking tools with you.

A sighted person would not show up and expect them to provide a pen and paper.

If the job interview involves some kind of testing, then that should be accessible unless the interviewer doesn't know you have a disability.

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

 



On Jun 28, 2021, at 3:28 PM, Michael Walker <michael.walker199014@...> wrote:

Hi,


When you went to job interviews, did you bring your own laptop with JAWS, or did the employer provide JAWS as an interview accommodation? I currently only have a desktop, but am willing to obtain a laptop. I am assuming that I cannot expect any interview accommodations, and that I should be prepared. Any thoughts?


Thank you,

Mike






 

On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 02:34 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
I think offering pen and paper is something no employer would have a problem with, but that is magnitudes different from expecting somebody to buy a Jaws licence and have a laptop ready for somebody who comes in for an interview and who may or may not get the job.
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It is orders of magnitude in difference.

Even if it were just pen and paper, though, were someone to show up who wanted to note take, but didn't bring pen and paper, that would make a lot of interviewers look askance.  That's really basic preparedness if you're someone who takes notes.  And basic preparedness is a huge part of any job.
 
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