moderated Problem with Function Keys


Lori Lynn
 

Good Afternoon,

 

Let me start by saying that I’ve attempted to find the answer to my question without any success. The crazy part is I know I fixed this problem on my old laptop with a simple key stroke. Now I’ve got the same problem and can’t find the keystroke anywhere!

 

Most of my Function keys are not working as they should. Alt+F4 does close a file, but F7 does not perform spellcheck. When I searched I found instructions to change the bios, but I know that wasn’t what I did before. When I press F1, it does bring up a help screen.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Lori Lynn

 


 

Lori,

The key takeaway here is that we need to know what to do for the specific make and model of laptop you have at hand.  There are a select few that allow toggling the function row keys from media keys/hotkeys via some keyboard-based method, but most do require turning that off in UEFI/BIOS and without knowing the make and model it is impossible to advise specifically, or further.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.
     ~ Lauren Bacall


Curtis Chong
 

Lori:

 

While I do not guarantee this procedure will work, you might try pressing the FN key with Escape. This is referred to sometimes as the FN lock function. It is unfortunate that a growing number of new computers these days are configured by default so that the function keys do not work as function keys by default. My preference is to avoid altogether the need to lock the FN key by asking the seller (and paying extra for this) to program the function keys in the BIOS to work as function keys. Remember, the FN Escape method may (emphasize may) not work on your system. This is merely one suggested approach to attacking the problem.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

Curtis Chong

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lori Lynn
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2022 1:17 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Problem with Function Keys

 

Good Afternoon,

 

Let me start by saying that I’ve attempted to find the answer to my question without any success. The crazy part is I know I fixed this problem on my old laptop with a simple key stroke. Now I’ve got the same problem and can’t find the keystroke anywhere!

 

Most of my Function keys are not working as they should. Alt+F4 does close a file, but F7 does not perform spellcheck. When I searched I found instructions to change the bios, but I know that wasn’t what I did before. When I press F1, it does bring up a help screen.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Lori Lynn

 


Glenn / Lenny
 

Hi Lori Lynn,
I think you may get better info by including the make and model of the computer, since the solution will vary between different computers.
Generally, sometimes the FN key in combination with the desired function key can make the F-key work as expected, until you get it changed permanently.
HTH.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: Lori Lynn
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2022 2:17 PM
Subject: Problem with Function Keys

Good Afternoon,

 

Let me start by saying that I’ve attempted to find the answer to my question without any success. The crazy part is I know I fixed this problem on my old laptop with a simple key stroke. Now I’ve got the same problem and can’t find the keystroke anywhere!

 

Most of my Function keys are not working as they should. Alt+F4 does close a file, but F7 does not perform spellcheck. When I searched I found instructions to change the bios, but I know that wasn’t what I did before. When I press F1, it does bring up a help screen.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Lori Lynn

 


Lori Lynn
 

My new laptop is an HP running Windows 10. My old one that had the same problem where the mystery keystroke worked was a Dell also running Windows 10. I realize I should know the models, but I’m sorry, I don’t.

@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2022 2:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Problem with Function Keys

 

Lori,

The key takeaway here is that we need to know what to do for the specific make and model of laptop you have at hand.  There are a select few that allow toggling the function row keys from media keys/hotkeys via some keyboard-based method, but most do require turning that off in UEFI/BIOS and without knowing the make and model it is impossible to advise specifically, or further.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.
     ~ Lauren Bacall


 

Lori,

In this case, just knowing it's an HP is enough, since I have 4 HP laptops in my household (3 different models).  Unless they've changed something radically, which I doubt, this is a settings change that requires getting into UEFI/BIOS.  And since there is no screen reader assistance on any machine until the operating system itself has loaded and applications can be launched.

The HP support page, HP Notebook PCs - How to lock or unlock the fn (function) key, gives detailed information on turning the hotkeys/action keys functionality off (or back on again) via UEFI/BIOS for the various HP laptop model ranges.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.
     ~ Lauren Bacall


 

On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 03:40 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
And since there is no screen reader assistance on any machine until the operating system itself has loaded and applications can be launched.
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That should have been followed by, "you are going to need a sighted assistant, and preferably one who is comfortable with tweaking UEFI/BIOS or perfectly OK about following the explicit instructions that HP gives." 
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.
     ~ Lauren Bacall


nocm@...
 

Hello Lori,
 
Depending on the manufacture of the laptop the steps to change the function keys and how they act very.  On Lenovo's FN + Escape toggles the function keys from Function key mode to multi media mode.  On other manufacture models FN + Shift will change the setting and on some the only way to change it is through the bios and the termonology that is used for the setting in the bios changes from one manufactuer to the next.
 
 
 
On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 19:17:15 +0000 "Lori Lynn" <grandma.lori@...> writes:

Good Afternoon,

 

Let me start by saying that I’ve attempted to find the answer to my question without any success. The crazy part is I know I fixed this problem on my old laptop with a simple key stroke. Now I’ve got the same problem and can’t find the keystroke anywhere!

 

Most of my Function keys are not working as they should. Alt+F4 does close a file, but F7 does not perform spellcheck. When I searched I found instructions to change the bios, but I know that wasn’t what I did before. When I press F1, it does bring up a help screen.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Lori Lynn

 

 


Lori Lynn
 

Thanks Everyone,

 

It looks like I’ll be visiting my local computer guy tomorrow. I made the assumption that this was an easy fix. Enjoy the rest of your weekend.

 

Lori Lynn

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of nocm@...
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2022 2:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Problem with Function Keys

 

Hello Lori,

 

Depending on the manufacture of the laptop the steps to change the function keys and how they act very.  On Lenovo's FN + Escape toggles the function keys from Function key mode to multi media mode.  On other manufacture models FN + Shift will change the setting and on some the only way to change it is through the bios and the termonology that is used for the setting in the bios changes from one manufactuer to the next.

 

 

 

On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 19:17:15 +0000 "Lori Lynn" <grandma.lori@...> writes:

Good Afternoon,

 

Let me start by saying that I’ve attempted to find the answer to my question without any success. The crazy part is I know I fixed this problem on my old laptop with a simple key stroke. Now I’ve got the same problem and can’t find the keystroke anywhere!

 

Most of my Function keys are not working as they should. Alt+F4 does close a file, but F7 does not perform spellcheck. When I searched I found instructions to change the bios, but I know that wasn’t what I did before. When I press F1, it does bring up a help screen.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Lori Lynn

 

 


 

On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 04:28 PM, Lori Lynn wrote:
I made the assumption that this was an easy fix.
-
It will be - for him.  This takes less than 10 minutes, start to finish, if the machine is brought in a completely shut down state.  Still likely less than 15 if he has to shut it down completely then power it up again and enter into UEFI.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.
     ~ Lauren Bacall


nocm@...
 

Hello Lori,
 
Until you get the function key fixed you can always hold down the FN key and then hit the key combination that you want and it should work as a temporary work around.
 
 
On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 20:28:09 +0000 "Lori Lynn" <grandma.lori@...> writes:

Thanks Everyone,

 

It looks like I’ll be visiting my local computer guy tomorrow. I made the assumption that this was an easy fix. Enjoy the rest of your weekend.

 

Lori Lynn

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of nocm@...
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2022 2:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Problem with Function Keys

 

Hello Lori,

 

Depending on the manufacture of the laptop the steps to change the function keys and how they act very.  On Lenovo's FN + Escape toggles the function keys from Function key mode to multi media mode.  On other manufacture models FN + Shift will change the setting and on some the only way to change it is through the bios and the termonology that is used for the setting in the bios changes from one manufactuer to the next.

 

 

 

On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 19:17:15 +0000 "Lori Lynn" <grandma.lori@...> writes:

Good Afternoon,

 

Let me start by saying that I’ve attempted to find the answer to my question without any success. The crazy part is I know I fixed this problem on my old laptop with a simple key stroke. Now I’ve got the same problem and can’t find the keystroke anywhere!

 

Most of my Function keys are not working as they should. Alt+F4 does close a file, but F7 does not perform spellcheck. When I searched I found instructions to change the bios, but I know that wasn’t what I did before. When I press F1, it does bring up a help screen.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Lori Lynn