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moderated Please help--MS update question


Shirley Tracy
 

This morning, there was a notice of a Windows update. I didn’t think much about it…until I let it update. Now, things aren’t working the same. Does anyone have a problem reading lines or words? And how do I stop JAWS from saying “select” and “not selected” for nearly everything?

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 


Mario
 

was the computer restarted? give it a little time to settle down after it comes back. after the update, my computer was a little groggy.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Shirley Tracy [mailto:shirleytracy16@gmail.com]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Thursday, December 10, 2020, 11:50 AM
Subject: Please help--MS update question
This morning, there was a notice of a Windows update. I did’t think
much about it…until I let it update. Now, things aren’t working the
same. Does anyone have a problem reading lines or words? And how do I
stop JAWS from saying “select” and “not selected” for nearly everything?

Shirley Tracy


.


 

And if things don't settle down, it will be important to know what update(s) were applied.  Presuming this is Windows 10, you can determine that in Settings, Update & Security, Windows Update Pane, using the View Update History button.  The most likely pertinent candidates are either under Feature Updates (less likely, but possible) or Quality Updates.  The "Successfully installed on" line will give you the respective dates.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


Shirley Tracy
 

Thanks everyone who responded. I Did give my computer a chance to settle down. I even rebooted. But I’m having trouble reading lines and words. And I’m tired of hearing “select.” I’m taking your advice, Brian, and will check the kind of update for my Windows 10. Perhaps I should not have allowed the update until I knew more. I’ll keep you posted.

 

Thanks again.

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 12:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

 

And if things don't settle down, it will be important to know what update(s) were applied.  Presuming this is Windows 10, you can determine that in Settings, Update & Security, Windows Update Pane, using the View Update History button.  The most likely pertinent candidates are either under Feature Updates (less likely, but possible) or Quality Updates.  The "Successfully installed on" line will give you the respective dates.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide

 


Mike B
 


Hi Shirley,
 
What do you mean when you say you're having problems reading words and lines?
 
For the selected and unselected being spoken, try the following:
1. Press, Insert + 6, on the number row above the main keyboard to open the Settings Center, now press, control, shift , + D, to open the Settings Center Default All Applications.
 
2. Down arrow to, Text Processing closed, and right arrow to open.
 
3. Down arrow to, General closed, and right arrow to open.
 
4. Down arrow to, List Item, and here you want to press the spacebar to toggle through your options.  When you hear Jaws report, Unselected, stop.
 
5. Tab to, Apply, press the spacebar, tab to, Okay, press enter to save and close.

 
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mario
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

was the computer restarted? give it a little time to settle down after
it comes back. after the update, my computer was a little groggy.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Shirley Tracy [mailto:shirleytracy16@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Thursday, December 10, 2020, 11:50 AM
Subject: Please help--MS update question
This morning, there was a notice of a Windows update. I did’t think
much about it…until I let it update. Now, things aren’t working the
same. Does anyone have a problem reading lines or words? And how do I
stop JAWS from saying “select” and “not selected” for nearly everything?

Shirley Tracy


.






Shirley Tracy
 

Brian, Here’s what I found:

 

December 8, 2020—KB4592438 (OS Builds 19041.685 and 19042.685)

Applies to: Windows 10, version 2004, all editionsWindows Server version 2004Windows 10, version 20H2, all editions More

 

 

It didn’t say the update was or was not successful. I assume it was.

 

Am I the only one who got this one?

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 12:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

 

And if things don't settle down, it will be important to know what update(s) were applied.  Presuming this is Windows 10, you can determine that in Settings, Update & Security, Windows Update Pane, using the View Update History button.  The most likely pertinent candidates are either under Feature Updates (less likely, but possible) or Quality Updates.  The "Successfully installed on" line will give you the respective dates.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide

 


 

Shirley,

         You're certainly not alone, as that's the latest cumulative update that's in the process of rolling out.  I cannot remember the JAWS terminology, and this may be it, but you may need to virtualize the Update History screen in order to have the line after the one that is the link for a given update read.  It will tell you if the update was successful, or failed, and give the date or date/time (respectively, I think, it's been a while since I've had a failure).

          I'm not running JAWS at the moment, so I can't say much of anything with regard to this cumulative update and JAWS other than there seems to be no widespread chatter about JAWS issues and this cumulative update.  It's been rolling out for a couple of days now and generally if something consistently breaks as a result you tend to start hearing about that pretty promptly.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


Richard Turner
 

You press the minus key on the numpad and it will say Jaws scan, then arrow down and you will hear all that you need line by line.

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 10:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

 

Shirley,

         You're certainly not alone, as that's the latest cumulative update that's in the process of rolling out.  I cannot remember the JAWS terminology, and this may be it, but you may need to virtualize the Update History screen in order to have the line after the one that is the link for a given update read.  It will tell you if the update was successful, or failed, and give the date or date/time (respectively, I think, it's been a while since I've had a failure).

          I'm not running JAWS at the moment, so I can't say much of anything with regard to this cumulative update and JAWS other than there seems to be no widespread chatter about JAWS issues and this cumulative update.  It's been rolling out for a couple of days now and generally if something consistently breaks as a result you tend to start hearing about that pretty promptly.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


Richard Turner
 

To be thorough, the minus key is the top right key on the numpad and after you are done, press the plus key to go back to the standard PC/virtual cursor.

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 10:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

 

You press the minus key on the numpad and it will say Jaws scan, then arrow down and you will hear all that you need line by line.

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 10:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

 

Shirley,

         You're certainly not alone, as that's the latest cumulative update that's in the process of rolling out.  I cannot remember the JAWS terminology, and this may be it, but you may need to virtualize the Update History screen in order to have the line after the one that is the link for a given update read.  It will tell you if the update was successful, or failed, and give the date or date/time (respectively, I think, it's been a while since I've had a failure).

          I'm not running JAWS at the moment, so I can't say much of anything with regard to this cumulative update and JAWS other than there seems to be no widespread chatter about JAWS issues and this cumulative update.  It's been rolling out for a couple of days now and generally if something consistently breaks as a result you tend to start hearing about that pretty promptly.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 


To check to see if you have the latest update. type winver in search and if you see Version 20H2 (OS Build 19042.685)you have the latest version installed. 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

Brian, Here’s what I found:

 

December 8, 2020—KB4592438 (OS Builds 19041.685 and 19042.685)

Applies to: Windows 10, version 2004, all editionsWindows Server version 2004Windows 10, version 20H2, all editions More

 

 

It didn’t say the update was or was not successful. I assume it was.

 

Am I the only one who got this one?

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 12:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

 

And if things don't settle down, it will be important to know what update(s) were applied.  Presuming this is Windows 10, you can determine that in Settings, Update & Security, Windows Update Pane, using the View Update History button.  The most likely pertinent candidates are either under Feature Updates (less likely, but possible) or Quality Updates.  The "Successfully installed on" line will give you the respective dates.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide

 


Richard Turner
 

I have 2004 OS build 1941.685, it was 1941.630.

 

Are you sure about the 1942 part of that number?

 

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 10:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

 

To check to see if you have the latest update. type winver in search and if you see Version 20H2 (OS Build 19042.685)you have the latest version installed. 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 1:15 PM

Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

 

Brian, Here’s what I found:

 

December 8, 2020—KB4592438 (OS Builds 19041.685 and 19042.685)

Applies to: Windows 10, version 2004, all editionsWindows Server version 2004Windows 10, version 20H2, all editions More

 

 

It didn’t say the update was or was not successful. I assume it was.

 

Am I the only one who got this one?

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 12:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

 

And if things don't settle down, it will be important to know what update(s) were applied.  Presuming this is Windows 10, you can determine that in Settings, Update & Security, Windows Update Pane, using the View Update History button.  The most likely pertinent candidates are either under Feature Updates (less likely, but possible) or Quality Updates.  The "Successfully installed on" line will give you the respective dates.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide

 


Mike B
 

Richard,
 
You're running an older version.  The latest is, 20H2, not 2004, and it's OS version 19042.685.  This newer 20H2 version is using 19042 where the older 2004 versions are at 19041.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

I have 2004 OS build 1941.685, it was 1941.630.

Are you sure about the 1942 part of that number?

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

*I’m not the card shark

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 10:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

To check to see if you have the latest update. type winver in search and if you see Version 20H2 (OS Build 19042.685)you have the latest version installed. 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 1:15 PM

Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

Brian, Here’s what I found:

December 8, 2020—KB4592438 (OS Builds 19041.685 and 19042.685)

Applies to: Windows 10, version 2004, all editionsWindows Server version 2004Windows 10, version 20H2, all editions More

It didn’t say the update was or was not successful. I assume it was.

Am I the only one who got this one?

Shirley Tracy

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 12:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

And if things don't settle down, it will be important to know what update(s) were applied.  Presuming this is Windows 10, you can determine that in Settings, Update & Security, Windows Update Pane, using the View Update History button.  The most likely pertinent candidates are either under Feature Updates (less likely, but possible) or Quality Updates.  The "Successfully installed on" line will give you the respective dates.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


Shirley Tracy
 

Yes, that’s what it said, and I copied and pasted in. I check and it said I had the latest update. But something isn’t right. I’m going to have to get a sighted person to look at what I’m reading. (But…after I checked settings, things went back to normal. Don’t ask me why.) I have no idea.

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 2:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

 

I have 2004 OS build 1941.685, it was 1941.630.

 

Are you sure about the 1942 part of that number?

 

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 10:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

 

To check to see if you have the latest update. type winver in search and if you see Version 20H2 (OS Build 19042.685)you have the latest version installed. 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 1:15 PM

Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

 

Brian, Here’s what I found:

 

December 8, 2020—KB4592438 (OS Builds 19041.685 and 19042.685)

Applies to: Windows 10, version 2004, all editionsWindows Server version 2004Windows 10, version 20H2, all editions More

 

 

It didn’t say the update was or was not successful. I assume it was.

 

Am I the only one who got this one?

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 12:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

 

And if things don't settle down, it will be important to know what update(s) were applied.  Presuming this is Windows 10, you can determine that in Settings, Update & Security, Windows Update Pane, using the View Update History button.  The most likely pertinent candidates are either under Feature Updates (less likely, but possible) or Quality Updates.  The "Successfully installed on" line will give you the respective dates.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide

 

 


John Doering
 

Shirley,

With your problem with JAWS saying selected when moving.  I got that if I had one of the mouse buttons locked.  Are you sure neither mouse button is locked?  It is easy to do by mistake when navigating around.

 

HTH,

 

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 2:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

 

Yes, that’s what it said, and I copied and pasted in. I check and it said I had the latest update. But something isn’t right. I’m going to have to get a sighted person to look at what I’m reading. (But…after I checked settings, things went back to normal. Don’t ask me why.) I have no idea.

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 2:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

 

I have 2004 OS build 1941.685, it was 1941.630.

 

Are you sure about the 1942 part of that number?

 

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 10:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

 

To check to see if you have the latest update. type winver in search and if you see Version 20H2 (OS Build 19042.685)you have the latest version installed. 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 1:15 PM

Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

 

Brian, Here’s what I found:

 

December 8, 2020—KB4592438 (OS Builds 19041.685 and 19042.685)

Applies to: Windows 10, version 2004, all editionsWindows Server version 2004Windows 10, version 20H2, all editions More

 

 

It didn’t say the update was or was not successful. I assume it was.

 

Am I the only one who got this one?

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 12:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

 

And if things don't settle down, it will be important to know what update(s) were applied.  Presuming this is Windows 10, you can determine that in Settings, Update & Security, Windows Update Pane, using the View Update History button.  The most likely pertinent candidates are either under Feature Updates (less likely, but possible) or Quality Updates.  The "Successfully installed on" line will give you the respective dates.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide

 

 


Richard Turner
 

Thanks Mike,

I guess it ain’t my turn yet as checking for updates doesn’t give me anything different.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 12:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

 

Richard,

 

You're running an older version.  The latest is, 20H2, not 2004, and it's OS version 19042.685.  This newer 20H2 version is using 19042 where the older 2004 versions are at 19041.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 11:21 AM

Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

 

I have 2004 OS build 1941.685, it was 1941.630.

Are you sure about the 1942 part of that number?

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

*I’m not the card shark

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 10:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

To check to see if you have the latest update. type winver in search and if you see Version 20H2 (OS Build 19042.685)you have the latest version installed. 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 1:15 PM

Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

Brian, Here’s what I found:

December 8, 2020—KB4592438 (OS Builds 19041.685 and 19042.685)

Applies to: Windows 10, version 2004, all editionsWindows Server version 2004Windows 10, version 20H2, all editions More

It didn’t say the update was or was not successful. I assume it was.

Am I the only one who got this one?

Shirley Tracy

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 12:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

And if things don't settle down, it will be important to know what update(s) were applied.  Presuming this is Windows 10, you can determine that in Settings, Update & Security, Windows Update Pane, using the View Update History button.  The most likely pertinent candidates are either under Feature Updates (less likely, but possible) or Quality Updates.  The "Successfully installed on" line will give you the respective dates.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


Maria Campbell
 

I just updated and see nothing different.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke
On 12/10/2020 5:28 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Thanks Mike,

I guess it ain’t my turn yet as checking for updates doesn’t give me anything different.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 12:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

 

Richard,

 

You're running an older version.  The latest is, 20H2, not 2004, and it's OS version 19042.685.  This newer 20H2 version is using 19042 where the older 2004 versions are at 19041.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 11:21 AM

Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

 

I have 2004 OS build 1941.685, it was 1941.630.

Are you sure about the 1942 part of that number?

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

*I’m not the card shark

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 10:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

To check to see if you have the latest update. type winver in search and if you see Version 20H2 (OS Build 19042.685)you have the latest version installed. 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 1:15 PM

Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

Brian, Here’s what I found:

December 8, 2020—KB4592438 (OS Builds 19041.685 and 19042.685)

Applies to: Windows 10, version 2004, all editionsWindows Server version 2004Windows 10, version 20H2, all editions More

It didn’t say the update was or was not successful. I assume it was.

Am I the only one who got this one?

Shirley Tracy

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 12:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

And if things don't settle down, it will be important to know what update(s) were applied.  Presuming this is Windows 10, you can determine that in Settings, Update & Security, Windows Update Pane, using the View Update History button.  The most likely pertinent candidates are either under Feature Updates (less likely, but possible) or Quality Updates.  The "Successfully installed on" line will give you the respective dates.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


Mario
 

Richard, 1941.685? I have build 20H2 19042.685. maybe you need to check for updates?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Thursday, December 10, 2020, 2:21 PM
Subject: Please help--MS update question
I have 2004 OS build 1941.685, it was 1941.630.

Are you sure about the 1942 part of that number?

Richard

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*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Loy
*Sent:* Thursday, December 10, 2020 10:53 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Please help--MS update question

To check to see if you have the latest update. type winver in search and
if you see Version 20H2 (OS Build 19042.685)you have the latest version
installed.

----- Original Message -----

*From:*Shirley Tracy <mailto:shirleytracy16@gmail.com>

*To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

*Sent:*Thursday, December 10, 2020 1:15 PM

*Subject:*Re: Please help--MS update question

Brian, Here’s what I found:


December 8, 2020—KB4592438 (OS Builds 19041.685 and 19042.685)

Applies to: Windows 10, version 2004, all editionsWindows Server version
2004Windows 10, version 20H2, all editions*More*
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.microsoft.com%2F&;data=04%7C01%7C%7C444726947c9c4206ad1f08d89d3cd87b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637432231937486233%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=fKH1dSYihALUBpel8775uq9bdea6QcRqiyYYQ69uXNo%3D&reserved=0>

It didn’t say the update was or was not successful. I assume it was.

Am I the only one who got this one?

Shirley Tracy

*From: *Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Thursday, December 10, 2020 12:53 PM
*To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: Please help--MS update question

And if things don't settle down, it will be important to know what
update(s) were applied.  Presuming this is Windows 10, you can determine
that in Settings, Update & Security, Windows Update Pane, using the View
Update History button. The most likely pertinent candidates are either
under Feature Updates (less likely, but possible) or Quality Updates.
The "Successfully installed on" line will give you the respective dates.
--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

*One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the
shore for a very long time.*

           ~ André Gide


Mike B
 

Richard,
 
Don't force the issue.  Windows will send you the update in due time.  I don't know what criteria they use as to who and what computers get the updates but, if you haven't received the, 20H2, update yet Microsoft is finding a reason to not send you the update and updating prematurely could cause adverse reactions to your operating system or in other words,be a total pain in the ass!

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

Thanks Mike,

I guess it ain’t my turn yet as checking for updates doesn’t give me anything different.

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 12:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

Richard,

You're running an older version.  The latest is, 20H2, not 2004, and it's OS version 19042.685.  This newer 20H2 version is using 19042 where the older 2004 versions are at 19041.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 11:21 AM

Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

I have 2004 OS build 1941.685, it was 1941.630.

Are you sure about the 1942 part of that number?

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 10:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

To check to see if you have the latest update. type winver in search and if you see Version 20H2 (OS Build 19042.685)you have the latest version installed. 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 1:15 PM

Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

Brian, Here’s what I found:

December 8, 2020—KB4592438 (OS Builds 19041.685 and 19042.685)

Applies to: Windows 10, version 2004, all editionsWindows Server version 2004Windows 10, version 20H2, all editions More

It didn’t say the update was or was not successful. I assume it was.

Am I the only one who got this one?

Shirley Tracy

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 12:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

And if things don't settle down, it will be important to know what update(s) were applied.  Presuming this is Windows 10, you can determine that in Settings, Update & Security, Windows Update Pane, using the View Update History button.  The most likely pertinent candidates are either under Feature Updates (less likely, but possible) or Quality Updates.  The "Successfully installed on" line will give you the respective dates.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


Richard Turner
 

Right Mike, that is why I said it ain't my turn.
After sending that I did a little more reading and will wait to see when it pops up.
I hadn't known they changed the version number from 2004, so I've learned something today, which is good.  

.

Richard

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"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Dec 10, 2020, at 4:37 PM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:


Richard,
 
Don't force the issue.  Windows will send you the update in due time.  I don't know what criteria they use as to who and what computers get the updates but, if you haven't received the, 20H2, update yet Microsoft is finding a reason to not send you the update and updating prematurely could cause adverse reactions to your operating system or in other words,be a total pain in the ass!

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

Thanks Mike,

I guess it ain’t my turn yet as checking for updates doesn’t give me anything different.

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 12:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

Richard,

You're running an older version.  The latest is, 20H2, not 2004, and it's OS version 19042.685.  This newer 20H2 version is using 19042 where the older 2004 versions are at 19041.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 11:21 AM

Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

I have 2004 OS build 1941.685, it was 1941.630.

Are you sure about the 1942 part of that number?

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

*I’m not the card shark

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 10:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

To check to see if you have the latest update. type winver in search and if you see Version 20H2 (OS Build 19042.685)you have the latest version installed. 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 1:15 PM

Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

Brian, Here’s what I found:

December 8, 2020—KB4592438 (OS Builds 19041.685 and 19042.685)

Applies to: Windows 10, version 2004, all editionsWindows Server version 2004Windows 10, version 20H2, all editions More

It didn’t say the update was or was not successful. I assume it was.

Am I the only one who got this one?

Shirley Tracy

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 12:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

And if things don't settle down, it will be important to know what update(s) were applied.  Presuming this is Windows 10, you can determine that in Settings, Update & Security, Windows Update Pane, using the View Update History button.  The most likely pertinent candidates are either under Feature Updates (less likely, but possible) or Quality Updates.  The "Successfully installed on" line will give you the respective dates.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


Tom Behler
 

Mike:

 

It’s interesting.

 

This Windows 10 computer is still back on Windows version 1909.

 

I have thought about forcing the update, but have decided to just let it happen when it will.

 

If this is unwise, I hope someone will let me know.

 

I’m working based on the old addage:  “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!”.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 7:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

 

Richard,

 

Don't force the issue.  Windows will send you the update in due time.  I don't know what criteria they use as to who and what computers get the updates but, if you haven't received the, 20H2, update yet Microsoft is finding a reason to not send you the update and updating prematurely could cause adverse reactions to your operating system or in other words,be a total pain in the ass!


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 2:28 PM

Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

 

Thanks Mike,

I guess it ain’t my turn yet as checking for updates doesn’t give me anything different.

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

*I’m not the card shark

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 12:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

Richard,

You're running an older version.  The latest is, 20H2, not 2004, and it's OS version 19042.685.  This newer 20H2 version is using 19042 where the older 2004 versions are at 19041.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 11:21 AM

Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

I have 2004 OS build 1941.685, it was 1941.630.

Are you sure about the 1942 part of that number?

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

*I’m not the card shark

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 10:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

To check to see if you have the latest update. type winver in search and if you see Version 20H2 (OS Build 19042.685)you have the latest version installed. 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 1:15 PM

Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

Brian, Here’s what I found:

December 8, 2020—KB4592438 (OS Builds 19041.685 and 19042.685)

Applies to: Windows 10, version 2004, all editionsWindows Server version 2004Windows 10, version 20H2, all editions More

It didn’t say the update was or was not successful. I assume it was.

Am I the only one who got this one?

Shirley Tracy

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 12:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please help--MS update question

And if things don't settle down, it will be important to know what update(s) were applied.  Presuming this is Windows 10, you can determine that in Settings, Update & Security, Windows Update Pane, using the View Update History button.  The most likely pertinent candidates are either under Feature Updates (less likely, but possible) or Quality Updates.  The "Successfully installed on" line will give you the respective dates.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide