moderated performing a right click


Bill White
 

Has anyone notice that during this entire discussion, the word performing was misspelled preforming? I have changed the subject line to reflect correct spelling.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2022 10:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: performing a right click

 

Why  is there no command for setting the Jaws to follow the mouse cursor?

Or is there one?

Glenn

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2022 12:06 PM

Subject: Re: preforming a right click

 

On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 12:55 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:

I've never set jaws cursor to follow the PC cursor, and I don't know that my mouse is where the PC cursor is.

With control + insert + Jaws cursor key we can set the Jaws cursor to stay with the PC cursor.

Shift instead of control will set it to follow the touch cursor, but I rarely use the touch cursor, only when a program seems to be otherwise inaccessible.

-
And I have no idea how any of this is related to what I posted.

In the default "out of the box" state for JAWS, the mouse pointer/PC Cursor does not stay tethered to the JAWS cursor.  So your earlier statement that you thought the JAWS Cursor location was always where the mouse pointer was as well was incorrect.

Unless you use commands such as you've noted to change the default behavior, the mouse pointer doesn't really follow anything JAWS is doing, nor does the PC Cursor (and the two can be considered synonymous) in many instances.  They are disconnected from each other under many typical circumstances.  And so long as everything that needs to be accomplished can be done by keyboard commands alone, that doesn't often matter, but at times it really does matter.

That's precisely why there are commands to route the JAWS cursor to the PC Cursor location and the PC Cursor to the JAWS Cursor location so that the two are indeed co-located.

I'm not going to argue the point that the mouse pointer and the PC Cursor are synonymous as far as getting "click control" on something that allows it.  If you are on something in the JAWS cursor that requires a right or left click and it's an occasion where the PC cursor is not following the JAWS cursor, you have to route the PC Cursor to the JAWS cursor before issuing a click.

There are times, like when using File Explorer, where the JAWS Cursor and PC cursor are virtually always locked together just based on how that program works.  But there are lots of other instances where they are definitely not in lock step with each other and you need to route one to the other.
 
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.
     ~ Lauren Bacall


Don Walls
 

Yes, I noticed and it bugged me, so thanks for changing it.
 
Don
 

From: Bill White
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2022 10:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: performing a right click
 

Has anyone notice that during this entire discussion, the word performing was misspelled preforming? I have changed the subject line to reflect correct spelling.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2022 10:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: performing a right click

 

Why  is there no command for setting the Jaws to follow the mouse cursor?

Or is there one?

Glenn

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2022 12:06 PM

Subject: Re: preforming a right click

 

On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 12:55 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:

I've never set jaws cursor to follow the PC cursor, and I don't know that my mouse is where the PC cursor is.

With control + insert + Jaws cursor key we can set the Jaws cursor to stay with the PC cursor.

Shift instead of control will set it to follow the touch cursor, but I rarely use the touch cursor, only when a program seems to be otherwise inaccessible.

-
And I have no idea how any of this is related to what I posted.

In the default "out of the box" state for JAWS, the mouse pointer/PC Cursor does not stay tethered to the JAWS cursor.  So your earlier statement that you thought the JAWS Cursor location was always where the mouse pointer was as well was incorrect.

Unless you use commands such as you've noted to change the default behavior, the mouse pointer doesn't really follow anything JAWS is doing, nor does the PC Cursor (and the two can be considered synonymous) in many instances.  They are disconnected from each other under many typical circumstances.  And so long as everything that needs to be accomplished can be done by keyboard commands alone, that doesn't often matter, but at times it really does matter.

That's precisely why there are commands to route the JAWS cursor to the PC Cursor location and the PC Cursor to the JAWS Cursor location so that the two are indeed co-located.

I'm not going to argue the point that the mouse pointer and the PC Cursor are synonymous as far as getting "click control" on something that allows it.  If you are on something in the JAWS cursor that requires a right or left click and it's an occasion where the PC cursor is not following the JAWS cursor, you have to route the PC Cursor to the JAWS cursor before issuing a click.

There are times, like when using File Explorer, where the JAWS Cursor and PC cursor are virtually always locked together just based on how that program works.  But there are lots of other instances where they are definitely not in lock step with each other and you need to route one to the other.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.
     ~ Lauren Bacall


 

Yes, probably most of us noticed.

But correcting the spelling has now split the topic in two, so I'll continue responding on the original.

I am as annoyed by the misspelling as you are, in all likelihood, but I don't even bother to ask the Group Owner to correct it until a topic has settled down.  If they do it, and someone replies to a message with the original spelling, you end up with two topics as well.

Split topics are a grand PITA, way worse than a typo to deal with.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.
     ~ Lauren Bacall


Gene Warner
 

I noticed from the very start but didn't want to break up the thread.

Gene...

On 8/6/2022 1:37 PM, Bill White wrote:
Has anyone notice that during this entire discussion, the word performing was misspelled preforming? I have changed the subject line to reflect correct spelling.
Bill White
billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>
*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Glenn / Lenny
*Sent:* Saturday, August 6, 2022 10:11 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: performing a right click
Why  is there no command for setting the Jaws to follow the mouse cursor?
Or is there one?
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
*From:*Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
*To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:*Saturday, August 06, 2022 12:06 PM
*Subject:*Re: preforming a right click
On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 12:55 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
I've never set jaws cursor to follow the PC cursor, and I don't know that my mouse is where the PC cursor is.
With control + insert + Jaws cursor key we can set the Jaws cursor to stay with the PC cursor.
Shift instead of control will set it to follow the touch cursor, but I rarely use the touch cursor, only when a program seems to be otherwise inaccessible.
-
And I have no idea how any of this is related to what I posted.
In the default "out of the box" state for JAWS, the mouse pointer/PC Cursor does not stay tethered to the JAWS cursor.  So your earlier statement that you thought the JAWS Cursor location was always where the mouse pointer was as well was incorrect.
Unless you use commands such as you've noted to change the default behavior, the mouse pointer doesn't really follow anything JAWS is doing, nor does the PC Cursor (and the two can be considered synonymous) in many instances.  They are disconnected from each other under many typical circumstances.  And so long as everything that needs to be accomplished can be done by keyboard commands alone, that doesn't often matter, but at times it really does matter.
That's precisely why there are commands to route the JAWS cursor to the PC Cursor location and the PC Cursor to the JAWS Cursor location so that the two are indeed co-located.
I'm not going to argue the point that the mouse pointer and the PC Cursor are synonymous as far as getting "click control" on something that allows it.  If you are on something in the JAWS cursor that requires a right or left click and it's an occasion where the PC cursor is not following the JAWS cursor, you have to route the PC Cursor to the JAWS cursor before issuing a click.
There are times, like when using File Explorer, where the JAWS Cursor and PC cursor are virtually always locked together just based on how that program works.  But there are lots of other instances where they are definitely not in lock step with each other and you need to route one to the other.
--
Brian *-*Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
**Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t.***
*     ~ Lauren Bacall


 

On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 01:42 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
I noticed from the very start but didn't want to break up the thread.
-
Thank you, Thank You, THANK YOU!!!
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.
     ~ Lauren Bacall


Gene Warner
 

Amen!

Gene...

On 8/6/2022 1:41 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Yes, probably most of us noticed.
But correcting the spelling has now split the topic in two, so I'll continue responding on the original.
I am as annoyed by the misspelling as you are, in all likelihood, but I don't even bother to ask the Group Owner to correct it until a topic has settled down.  If they do it, and someone replies to a message with the original spelling, you end up with two topics as well.
Split topics are a grand PITA, way worse than a typo to deal with.
--
Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t.
*     ~ Lauren Bacall


Laura Richardson
 

I noticed it right away.  I wondered why nobody caught this sooner and corrected the spelling so ...... Thank you very much for pointing this out and dsetting things right.

 

Laura

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2022 12:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: performing a right click

 

Has anyone notice that during this entire discussion, the word performing was misspelled preforming? I have changed the subject line to reflect correct spelling.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2022 10:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: performing a right click

 

Why  is there no command for setting the Jaws to follow the mouse cursor?

Or is there one?

Glenn

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2022 12:06 PM

Subject: Re: preforming a right click

 

On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 12:55 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:

I've never set jaws cursor to follow the PC cursor, and I don't know that my mouse is where the PC cursor is.

With control + insert + Jaws cursor key we can set the Jaws cursor to stay with the PC cursor.

Shift instead of control will set it to follow the touch cursor, but I rarely use the touch cursor, only when a program seems to be otherwise inaccessible.

-
And I have no idea how any of this is related to what I posted.

In the default "out of the box" state for JAWS, the mouse pointer/PC Cursor does not stay tethered to the JAWS cursor.  So your earlier statement that you thought the JAWS Cursor location was always where the mouse pointer was as well was incorrect.

Unless you use commands such as you've noted to change the default behavior, the mouse pointer doesn't really follow anything JAWS is doing, nor does the PC Cursor (and the two can be considered synonymous) in many instances.  They are disconnected from each other under many typical circumstances.  And so long as everything that needs to be accomplished can be done by keyboard commands alone, that doesn't often matter, but at times it really does matter.

That's precisely why there are commands to route the JAWS cursor to the PC Cursor location and the PC Cursor to the JAWS Cursor location so that the two are indeed co-located.

I'm not going to argue the point that the mouse pointer and the PC Cursor are synonymous as far as getting "click control" on something that allows it.  If you are on something in the JAWS cursor that requires a right or left click and it's an occasion where the PC cursor is not following the JAWS cursor, you have to route the PC Cursor to the JAWS cursor before issuing a click.

There are times, like when using File Explorer, where the JAWS Cursor and PC cursor are virtually always locked together just based on how that program works.  But there are lots of other instances where they are definitely not in lock step with each other and you need to route one to the other.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.
     ~ Lauren Bacall


Mike Pietruk
 

Brian

Agree with you; the integrity of a discussion is far more important than a
spelling error.
And, I wonder that perhaps, in some English speaking countries, preform
might either be correct or acceptible.
Certainly, it's not that in USA English; but perhaps in Canada, the UK,
Australia, New Zealand or other places, it's how the word is spelled.


Glenn / Lenny
 

Hi Mike,
I think preform would refer to something in manufacturing.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Pietruk" <pietruk@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2022 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: performing a right click


Brian

Agree with you; the integrity of a discussion is far more important than a
spelling error.
And, I wonder that perhaps, in some English speaking countries, preform
might either be correct or acceptible.
Certainly, it's not that in USA English; but perhaps in Canada, the UK,
Australia, New Zealand or other places, it's how the word is spelled.


Gene Warner
 

AGreed, something similar to Prefabbricated?

Gene...

On 8/6/2022 6:56 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi Mike,
I think preform would refer to something in manufacturing.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Pietruk" <pietruk@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2022 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: performing a right click
Brian
Agree with you; the integrity of a discussion is far more important than a
spelling error.
And, I wonder that perhaps, in some English speaking countries, preform
might either be correct or acceptible.
Certainly, it's not that in USA English; but perhaps in Canada, the UK,
Australia, New Zealand or other places, it's how the word is spelled.


Don Walls
 

No, Mike. We do know how to spell in Canada....

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Pietruk
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2022 2:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: performing a right click

Brian

Agree with you; the integrity of a discussion is far more important than a
spelling error.
And, I wonder that perhaps, in some English speaking countries, preform
might either be correct or acceptible.
Certainly, it's not that in USA English; but perhaps in Canada, the UK,
Australia, New Zealand or other places, it's how the word is spelled.