Orbit Reader 40 review? Thoughts?


Cristóbal
 

Hello list,

So I was thinking of upgrading to the Orbit Reader 40 display, but haven’t really been able to come across any reviews on the product. Write ups on the Orbit Reader 20 Plus yes, but not much for the 40. Can I just assume that they’re the same, but for amount of Braille cells?

There was one review I came across on Apple Vis but it was more focused on the device's sound than anything else. I did find one YouTube video, but it’s in French and well… I don’t speak French.

I was thinking of the Mantis 40, but honestly, I’m pretty happy with my mechanical keyboard for my desktop and I already have an 80 cell display connected to it, so this would be a more portable option for my laptop and iPhone for reading mostly. I don’t need another keyboard for that.

Anyway, if anyone’s got an Orbit Reader 40, I’d be curious to know their thoughts on how it’s holding up and general usage.

Thanks,

Cristóbal

 


Richard Turner
 

There has been a lot of discussion about it on the Orbit Reader list of course.
I will write something up for AppleVis at some point soon.
But, starting from physical comparisons.
1. It is no louder while refreshing.
2. The keys are louder than those on the 20.
3. The keys are laid out more like you would expect from other displays, in that the 8 dots are kind of fanned out ergonomically. So unlike the 20, dots 7 and 8 are very comfortable for your little fingers to land on.
4. The space bar is on a slightly angled lip at the front, then the braille cells, then the keyboard.
5. there are cursor routing buttons above each cell.
6. It has a USB slot so you can use a thumb drive for alternate storage.
On my web site, I have samples of the alarm sounds under the heading Orbit Research information. 
www.turner42.com

I really like the display. Like the 20, it is the best feeling braille of any display.
You do have to install a driver to run it with JAWS so it emulates the Vario Ultra 40. Vispero says it is up to Orbit Research to fix the driver ...
But it works great with Jaws, or NVDA.
 


Richard 
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com


On Apr 22, 2021, at 2:46 PM, Cristóbal <cristobalmuli@...> wrote:



Hello list,

So I was thinking of upgrading to the Orbit Reader 40 display, but haven’t really been able to come across any reviews on the product. Write ups on the Orbit Reader 20 Plus yes, but not much for the 40. Can I just assume that they’re the same, but for amount of Braille cells?

There was one review I came across on Apple Vis but it was more focused on the device's sound than anything else. I did find one YouTube video, but it’s in French and well… I don’t speak French.

I was thinking of the Mantis 40, but honestly, I’m pretty happy with my mechanical keyboard for my desktop and I already have an 80 cell display connected to it, so this would be a more portable option for my laptop and iPhone for reading mostly. I don’t need another keyboard for that.

Anyway, if anyone’s got an Orbit Reader 40, I’d be curious to know their thoughts on how it’s holding up and general usage.

Thanks,

Cristóbal

 


Cristóbal
 

This is helpful.

I just find it odd that there seems to be very little out there on this particular model. Even YouTube doesn’t really have anything. Just that one French language video JI linked to. Tons of reviews and postings about the 20 cell displays, but no dice on the 40 cell one but for the generic postings of specs and order form .

Thanks,

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 3:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 40 review? Thoughts?

 

There has been a lot of discussion about it on the Orbit Reader list of course.

I will write something up for AppleVis at some point soon.

But, starting from physical comparisons.

1. It is no louder while refreshing.

2. The keys are louder than those on the 20.

3. The keys are laid out more like you would expect from other displays, in that the 8 dots are kind of fanned out ergonomically. So unlike the 20, dots 7 and 8 are very comfortable for your little fingers to land on.

4. The space bar is on a slightly angled lip at the front, then the braille cells, then the keyboard.

5. there are cursor routing buttons above each cell.

6. It has a USB slot so you can use a thumb drive for alternate storage.

On my web site, I have samples of the alarm sounds under the heading Orbit Research information. 

 

I really like the display. Like the 20, it is the best feeling braille of any display.

You do have to install a driver to run it with JAWS so it emulates the Vario Ultra 40. Vispero says it is up to Orbit Research to fix the driver ...

But it works great with Jaws, or NVDA.

 

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

 



On Apr 22, 2021, at 2:46 PM, Cristóbal <cristobalmuli@...> wrote:



Hello list,

So I was thinking of upgrading to the Orbit Reader 40 display, but haven’t really been able to come across any reviews on the product. Write ups on the Orbit Reader 20 Plus yes, but not much for the 40. Can I just assume that they’re the same, but for amount of Braille cells?

There was one review I came across on Apple Vis but it was more focused on the device's sound than anything else. I did find one YouTube video, but it’s in French and well… I don’t speak French.

I was thinking of the Mantis 40, but honestly, I’m pretty happy with my mechanical keyboard for my desktop and I already have an 80 cell display connected to it, so this would be a more portable option for my laptop and iPhone for reading mostly. I don’t need another keyboard for that.

Anyway, if anyone’s got an Orbit Reader 40, I’d be curious to know their thoughts on how it’s holding up and general usage.

Thanks,

Cristóbal

 


Richard Turner
 

Well, it has only been on the market a little over a month, and they do not have a huge PR budget like some companies.



Richard 
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com


On Apr 22, 2021, at 5:49 PM, Cristóbal <cristobalmuli@...> wrote:



This is helpful.

I just find it odd that there seems to be very little out there on this particular model. Even YouTube doesn’t really have anything. Just that one French language video JI linked to. Tons of reviews and postings about the 20 cell displays, but no dice on the 40 cell one but for the generic postings of specs and order form .

Thanks,

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 3:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 40 review? Thoughts?

 

There has been a lot of discussion about it on the Orbit Reader list of course.

I will write something up for AppleVis at some point soon.

But, starting from physical comparisons.

1. It is no louder while refreshing.

2. The keys are louder than those on the 20.

3. The keys are laid out more like you would expect from other displays, in that the 8 dots are kind of fanned out ergonomically. So unlike the 20, dots 7 and 8 are very comfortable for your little fingers to land on.

4. The space bar is on a slightly angled lip at the front, then the braille cells, then the keyboard.

5. there are cursor routing buttons above each cell.

6. It has a USB slot so you can use a thumb drive for alternate storage.

On my web site, I have samples of the alarm sounds under the heading Orbit Research information. 

 

I really like the display. Like the 20, it is the best feeling braille of any display.

You do have to install a driver to run it with JAWS so it emulates the Vario Ultra 40. Vispero says it is up to Orbit Research to fix the driver ...

But it works great with Jaws, or NVDA.

 

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

 



On Apr 22, 2021, at 2:46 PM, Cristóbal <cristobalmuli@...> wrote:



Hello list,

So I was thinking of upgrading to the Orbit Reader 40 display, but haven’t really been able to come across any reviews on the product. Write ups on the Orbit Reader 20 Plus yes, but not much for the 40. Can I just assume that they’re the same, but for amount of Braille cells?

There was one review I came across on Apple Vis but it was more focused on the device's sound than anything else. I did find one YouTube video, but it’s in French and well… I don’t speak French.

I was thinking of the Mantis 40, but honestly, I’m pretty happy with my mechanical keyboard for my desktop and I already have an 80 cell display connected to it, so this would be a more portable option for my laptop and iPhone for reading mostly. I don’t need another keyboard for that.

Anyway, if anyone’s got an Orbit Reader 40, I’d be curious to know their thoughts on how it’s holding up and general usage.

Thanks,

Cristóbal

 


Sharon
 

Hope they work better than the 20.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 9:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 40 review? Thoughts?

 

Well, it has only been on the market a little over a month, and they do not have a huge PR budget like some companies.

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

 



On Apr 22, 2021, at 5:49 PM, Cristóbal <cristobalmuli@...> wrote:



This is helpful.

I just find it odd that there seems to be very little out there on this particular model. Even YouTube doesn’t really have anything. Just that one French language video JI linked to. Tons of reviews and postings about the 20 cell displays, but no dice on the 40 cell one but for the generic postings of specs and order form .

Thanks,

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 3:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 40 review? Thoughts?

 

There has been a lot of discussion about it on the Orbit Reader list of course.

I will write something up for AppleVis at some point soon.

But, starting from physical comparisons.

1. It is no louder while refreshing.

2. The keys are louder than those on the 20.

3. The keys are laid out more like you would expect from other displays, in that the 8 dots are kind of fanned out ergonomically. So unlike the 20, dots 7 and 8 are very comfortable for your little fingers to land on.

4. The space bar is on a slightly angled lip at the front, then the braille cells, then the keyboard.

5. there are cursor routing buttons above each cell.

6. It has a USB slot so you can use a thumb drive for alternate storage.

On my web site, I have samples of the alarm sounds under the heading Orbit Research information. 

 

I really like the display. Like the 20, it is the best feeling braille of any display.

You do have to install a driver to run it with JAWS so it emulates the Vario Ultra 40. Vispero says it is up to Orbit Research to fix the driver ...

But it works great with Jaws, or NVDA.

 

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

 




On Apr 22, 2021, at 2:46 PM, Cristóbal <cristobalmuli@...> wrote:



Hello list,

So I was thinking of upgrading to the Orbit Reader 40 display, but haven’t really been able to come across any reviews on the product. Write ups on the Orbit Reader 20 Plus yes, but not much for the 40. Can I just assume that they’re the same, but for amount of Braille cells?

There was one review I came across on Apple Vis but it was more focused on the device's sound than anything else. I did find one YouTube video, but it’s in French and well… I don’t speak French.

I was thinking of the Mantis 40, but honestly, I’m pretty happy with my mechanical keyboard for my desktop and I already have an 80 cell display connected to it, so this would be a more portable option for my laptop and iPhone for reading mostly. I don’t need another keyboard for that.

Anyway, if anyone’s got an Orbit Reader 40, I’d be curious to know their thoughts on how it’s holding up and general usage.

Thanks,

Cristóbal

 


Richard Turner
 

I put up my own audio description of the Orbit Reader 40 along with my attempt at a recording of the two keyboards being used to compare the sound levels.

You can find them on my web site under the Orbit Research Information page, here:

Orbit Research Information (turner42.com)

 

HTH,

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 5:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 40 review? Thoughts?

 

This is helpful.

I just find it odd that there seems to be very little out there on this particular model. Even YouTube doesn’t really have anything. Just that one French language video JI linked to. Tons of reviews and postings about the 20 cell displays, but no dice on the 40 cell one but for the generic postings of specs and order form .

Thanks,

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 3:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 40 review? Thoughts?

 

There has been a lot of discussion about it on the Orbit Reader list of course.

I will write something up for AppleVis at some point soon.

But, starting from physical comparisons.

1. It is no louder while refreshing.

2. The keys are louder than those on the 20.

3. The keys are laid out more like you would expect from other displays, in that the 8 dots are kind of fanned out ergonomically. So unlike the 20, dots 7 and 8 are very comfortable for your little fingers to land on.

4. The space bar is on a slightly angled lip at the front, then the braille cells, then the keyboard.

5. there are cursor routing buttons above each cell.

6. It has a USB slot so you can use a thumb drive for alternate storage.

On my web site, I have samples of the alarm sounds under the heading Orbit Research information. 

 

I really like the display. Like the 20, it is the best feeling braille of any display.

You do have to install a driver to run it with JAWS so it emulates the Vario Ultra 40. Vispero says it is up to Orbit Research to fix the driver ...

But it works great with Jaws, or NVDA.

 

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

 

 

On Apr 22, 2021, at 2:46 PM, Cristóbal <cristobalmuli@...> wrote:



Hello list,

So I was thinking of upgrading to the Orbit Reader 40 display, but haven’t really been able to come across any reviews on the product. Write ups on the Orbit Reader 20 Plus yes, but not much for the 40. Can I just assume that they’re the same, but for amount of Braille cells?

There was one review I came across on Apple Vis but it was more focused on the device's sound than anything else. I did find one YouTube video, but it’s in French and well… I don’t speak French.

I was thinking of the Mantis 40, but honestly, I’m pretty happy with my mechanical keyboard for my desktop and I already have an 80 cell display connected to it, so this would be a more portable option for my laptop and iPhone for reading mostly. I don’t need another keyboard for that.

Anyway, if anyone’s got an Orbit Reader 40, I’d be curious to know their thoughts on how it’s holding up and general usage.

Thanks,

Cristóbal

 


leonard morris
 

Thank you for the audio description of the braille display appreciate it. However, when the page is loading in it’s almost completed I get a not secured statement I’m Safari. I hope this is not a problem for you doesn’t seem to be a real issue with the site I just thought you might want to be aware of it.

Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2021 12:42:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 40 review? Thoughts?
 

I put up my own audio description of the Orbit Reader 40 along with my attempt at a recording of the two keyboards being used to compare the sound levels.

You can find them on my web site under the Orbit Research Information page, here:

Orbit Research Information (turner42.com)

 

HTH,

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 5:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 40 review? Thoughts?

 

This is helpful.

I just find it odd that there seems to be very little out there on this particular model. Even YouTube doesn’t really have anything. Just that one French language video JI linked to. Tons of reviews and postings about the 20 cell displays, but no dice on the 40 cell one but for the generic postings of specs and order form .

Thanks,

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 3:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 40 review? Thoughts?

 

There has been a lot of discussion about it on the Orbit Reader list of course.

I will write something up for AppleVis at some point soon.

But, starting from physical comparisons.

1. It is no louder while refreshing.

2. The keys are louder than those on the 20.

3. The keys are laid out more like you would expect from other displays, in that the 8 dots are kind of fanned out ergonomically. So unlike the 20, dots 7 and 8 are very comfortable for your little fingers to land on.

4. The space bar is on a slightly angled lip at the front, then the braille cells, then the keyboard.

5. there are cursor routing buttons above each cell.

6. It has a USB slot so you can use a thumb drive for alternate storage.

On my web site, I have samples of the alarm sounds under the heading Orbit Research information. 

 

I really like the display. Like the 20, it is the best feeling braille of any display.

You do have to install a driver to run it with JAWS so it emulates the Vario Ultra 40. Vispero says it is up to Orbit Research to fix the driver ...

But it works great with Jaws, or NVDA.

 

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

 

 

On Apr 22, 2021, at 2:46 PM, Cristóbal <cristobalmuli@...> wrote:



Hello list,

So I was thinking of upgrading to the Orbit Reader 40 display, but haven’t really been able to come across any reviews on the product. Write ups on the Orbit Reader 20 Plus yes, but not much for the 40. Can I just assume that they’re the same, but for amount of Braille cells?

There was one review I came across on Apple Vis but it was more focused on the device's sound than anything else. I did find one YouTube video, but it’s in French and well… I don’t speak French.

I was thinking of the Mantis 40, but honestly, I’m pretty happy with my mechanical keyboard for my desktop and I already have an 80 cell display connected to it, so this would be a more portable option for my laptop and iPhone for reading mostly. I don’t need another keyboard for that.

Anyway, if anyone’s got an Orbit Reader 40, I’d be curious to know their thoughts on how it’s holding up and general usage.

Thanks,

Cristóbal

 


Richard Turner
 

Thanks for that.
I am not sure what I need to do to get rid of that warning; but I get it on lots of other sites too.
I'm glad the description was helpful.



Richard 
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com


On Apr 23, 2021, at 8:00 PM, leonard morris <lmorris1953@...> wrote:


Thank you for the audio description of the braille display appreciate it. However, when the page is loading in it’s almost completed I get a not secured statement I’m Safari. I hope this is not a problem for you doesn’t seem to be a real issue with the site I just thought you might want to be aware of it.

Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2021 12:42:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 40 review? Thoughts?
 

I put up my own audio description of the Orbit Reader 40 along with my attempt at a recording of the two keyboards being used to compare the sound levels.

You can find them on my web site under the Orbit Research Information page, here:

Orbit Research Information (turner42.com)

 

HTH,

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 5:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 40 review? Thoughts?

 

This is helpful.

I just find it odd that there seems to be very little out there on this particular model. Even YouTube doesn’t really have anything. Just that one French language video JI linked to. Tons of reviews and postings about the 20 cell displays, but no dice on the 40 cell one but for the generic postings of specs and order form .

Thanks,

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 3:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 40 review? Thoughts?

 

There has been a lot of discussion about it on the Orbit Reader list of course.

I will write something up for AppleVis at some point soon.

But, starting from physical comparisons.

1. It is no louder while refreshing.

2. The keys are louder than those on the 20.

3. The keys are laid out more like you would expect from other displays, in that the 8 dots are kind of fanned out ergonomically. So unlike the 20, dots 7 and 8 are very comfortable for your little fingers to land on.

4. The space bar is on a slightly angled lip at the front, then the braille cells, then the keyboard.

5. there are cursor routing buttons above each cell.

6. It has a USB slot so you can use a thumb drive for alternate storage.

On my web site, I have samples of the alarm sounds under the heading Orbit Research information. 

 

I really like the display. Like the 20, it is the best feeling braille of any display.

You do have to install a driver to run it with JAWS so it emulates the Vario Ultra 40. Vispero says it is up to Orbit Research to fix the driver ...

But it works great with Jaws, or NVDA.

 

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

 

 

On Apr 22, 2021, at 2:46 PM, Cristóbal <cristobalmuli@...> wrote:



Hello list,

So I was thinking of upgrading to the Orbit Reader 40 display, but haven’t really been able to come across any reviews on the product. Write ups on the Orbit Reader 20 Plus yes, but not much for the 40. Can I just assume that they’re the same, but for amount of Braille cells?

There was one review I came across on Apple Vis but it was more focused on the device's sound than anything else. I did find one YouTube video, but it’s in French and well… I don’t speak French.

I was thinking of the Mantis 40, but honestly, I’m pretty happy with my mechanical keyboard for my desktop and I already have an 80 cell display connected to it, so this would be a more portable option for my laptop and iPhone for reading mostly. I don’t need another keyboard for that.

Anyway, if anyone’s got an Orbit Reader 40, I’d be curious to know their thoughts on how it’s holding up and general usage.

Thanks,

Cristóbal

 


John Covici
 

Richard, you need to have a valid certificate and get https working,
that will get rid of that warning. If you just install the
appropriate lets encrypt packages, in most distributions, the system
can rewrite http queries to https ones.

On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 00:01:49 -0400,
Richard Turner wrote:

[1 <text/plain; utf-8 (base64)>]
Thanks for that.
I am not sure what I need to do to get rid of that warning; but I get it on lots of other sites too.
I'm glad the description was helpful.



Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com


On Apr 23, 2021, at 8:00 PM, leonard morris <lmorris1953@gmail.com> wrote:


Thank you for the audio description of the braille display appreciate it. However, when the page is loading in it’s almost completed I get a not secured statement I’m Safari. I hope this is not a problem for you doesn’t seem to be a real issue with the site I just thought you might want to be aware of it.

Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.
________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Richard Turner <richardturner42@outlook.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2021 12:42:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 40 review? Thoughts?


I put up my own audio description of the Orbit Reader 40 along with my attempt at a recording of the two keyboards being used to compare the sound levels.

You can find them on my web site under the Orbit Research Information page, here:

Orbit Research Information (turner42.com)<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2FOrbitResearchInformation.html&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca8513ec098364610ec3308d906cd28c1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637548300483354357%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=khdhtrS8fMTIAGwu6ev7RLOofUZuI6uHETePtU9sN1w%3D&reserved=0>



HTH,



Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900



Web site: www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca8513ec098364610ec3308d906cd28c1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637548300483354357%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Btw%2F%2FEgmdgL6gAR%2FVzNd4c6te2q0EJw43BNYEb5T7k4%3D&reserved=0>







From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 5:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 40 review? Thoughts?



This is helpful.

I just find it odd that there seems to be very little out there on this particular model. Even YouTube doesn’t really have anything. Just that one French language video JI linked to. Tons of reviews and postings about the 20 cell displays, but no dice on the 40 cell one but for the generic postings of specs and order form .

Thanks,





Cristóbal



From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 3:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 40 review? Thoughts?



There has been a lot of discussion about it on the Orbit Reader list of course.

I will write something up for AppleVis at some point soon.

But, starting from physical comparisons.

1. It is no louder while refreshing.

2. The keys are louder than those on the 20.

3. The keys are laid out more like you would expect from other displays, in that the 8 dots are kind of fanned out ergonomically. So unlike the 20, dots 7 and 8 are very comfortable for your little fingers to land on.

4. The space bar is on a slightly angled lip at the front, then the braille cells, then the keyboard.

5. there are cursor routing buttons above each cell.

6. It has a USB slot so you can use a thumb drive for alternate storage.

On my web site, I have samples of the alarm sounds under the heading Orbit Research information.

www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca8513ec098364610ec3308d906cd28c1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637548300483364195%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=JCZ%2BNDU123MRMO4A1Iya%2Fn%2FDGbz9JtM2807T14bIMjQ%3D&reserved=0>



I really like the display. Like the 20, it is the best feeling braille of any display.

You do have to install a driver to run it with JAWS so it emulates the Vario Ultra 40. Vispero says it is up to Orbit Research to fix the driver ...

But it works great with Jaws, or NVDA.







Richard

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt



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On Apr 22, 2021, at 2:46 PM, Cristóbal <cristobalmuli@gmail.com<mailto:cristobalmuli@gmail.com>> wrote:



Hello list,

So I was thinking of upgrading to the Orbit Reader 40 display, but haven’t really been able to come across any reviews on the product. Write ups on the Orbit Reader 20 Plus yes, but not much for the 40. Can I just assume that they’re the same, but for amount of Braille cells?

There was one review I came across on Apple Vis but it was more focused on the device's sound<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.applevis.com%2Fforum%2Fbraille-apple-products%2Forbit-reader-40-audio-volume-level-examples&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca8513ec098364610ec3308d906cd28c1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637548300483374149%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=vTbo9fq5GK8EDOXBE5a1JXDy5LnpPxgy7F8de%2FrE9F8%3D&reserved=0> than anything else. I did find one YouTube video,<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DvmbvLsoCe7o&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca8513ec098364610ec3308d906cd28c1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637548300483374149%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Fp933vjw7v9d8rx6gJ8%2BcRaRVXBBI1OEwV3%2BYFa3l8E%3D&reserved=0> but it’s in French and well… I don’t speak French.

I was thinking of the Mantis 40, but honestly, I’m pretty happy with my mechanical keyboard for my desktop and I already have an 80 cell display connected to it, so this would be a more portable option for my laptop and iPhone for reading mostly. I don’t need another keyboard for that.

Anyway, if anyone’s got an Orbit Reader 40, I’d be curious to know their thoughts on how it’s holding up and general usage.

Thanks,

Cristóbal









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Richard Turner
 

Leonard,

Would you check my site again and see if you get the security warning?

I updated the SSL certificate and would appreciate knowing if it did the trick.

It is somewhat meaningless since I have no login places, credit cards, or other personal information; but it does cause people to question the safety of browsing.

Thanks again,

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of leonard morris
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2021 8:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 40 review? Thoughts?

 

Thank you for the audio description of the braille display appreciate it. However, when the page is loading in it’s almost completed I get a not secured statement I’m Safari. I hope this is not a problem for you doesn’t seem to be a real issue with the site I just thought you might want to be aware of it.

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2021 12:42:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 40 review? Thoughts?

 

I put up my own audio description of the Orbit Reader 40 along with my attempt at a recording of the two keyboards being used to compare the sound levels.

You can find them on my web site under the Orbit Research Information page, here:

Orbit Research Information (turner42.com)

 

HTH,

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 5:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 40 review? Thoughts?

 

This is helpful.

I just find it odd that there seems to be very little out there on this particular model. Even YouTube doesn’t really have anything. Just that one French language video JI linked to. Tons of reviews and postings about the 20 cell displays, but no dice on the 40 cell one but for the generic postings of specs and order form .

Thanks,

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 3:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 40 review? Thoughts?

 

There has been a lot of discussion about it on the Orbit Reader list of course.

I will write something up for AppleVis at some point soon.

But, starting from physical comparisons.

1. It is no louder while refreshing.

2. The keys are louder than those on the 20.

3. The keys are laid out more like you would expect from other displays, in that the 8 dots are kind of fanned out ergonomically. So unlike the 20, dots 7 and 8 are very comfortable for your little fingers to land on.

4. The space bar is on a slightly angled lip at the front, then the braille cells, then the keyboard.

5. there are cursor routing buttons above each cell.

6. It has a USB slot so you can use a thumb drive for alternate storage.

On my web site, I have samples of the alarm sounds under the heading Orbit Research information. 

 

I really like the display. Like the 20, it is the best feeling braille of any display.

You do have to install a driver to run it with JAWS so it emulates the Vario Ultra 40. Vispero says it is up to Orbit Research to fix the driver ...

But it works great with Jaws, or NVDA.

 

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

 

 

On Apr 22, 2021, at 2:46 PM, Cristóbal <cristobalmuli@...> wrote:



Hello list,

So I was thinking of upgrading to the Orbit Reader 40 display, but haven’t really been able to come across any reviews on the product. Write ups on the Orbit Reader 20 Plus yes, but not much for the 40. Can I just assume that they’re the same, but for amount of Braille cells?

There was one review I came across on Apple Vis but it was more focused on the device's sound than anything else. I did find one YouTube video, but it’s in French and well… I don’t speak French.

I was thinking of the Mantis 40, but honestly, I’m pretty happy with my mechanical keyboard for my desktop and I already have an 80 cell display connected to it, so this would be a more portable option for my laptop and iPhone for reading mostly. I don’t need another keyboard for that.

Anyway, if anyone’s got an Orbit Reader 40, I’d be curious to know their thoughts on how it’s holding up and general usage.

Thanks,

Cristóbal

 


Richard Turner
 

Thanks John,
I went into the client login panel of my hosting service and updated the certificate.
I don't have anything that asks or reveals personal information like logins or credit cards, so I don't bother using https so I am hoping that just by updating the certificate, that will stop the warnings.
https://www.turner42.com works just as well as http://www.turner42.com

So, fingers crossed.


Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2021 2:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 40 review? Thoughts?

Richard, you need to have a valid certificate and get https working, that will get rid of that warning. If you just install the appropriate lets encrypt packages, in most distributions, the system can rewrite http queries to https ones.

On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 00:01:49 -0400,
Richard Turner wrote:

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Thanks for that.
I am not sure what I need to do to get rid of that warning; but I get it on lots of other sites too.
I'm glad the description was helpful.



Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds
discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

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On Apr 23, 2021, at 8:00 PM, leonard morris <lmorris1953@gmail.com> wrote:


Thank you for the audio description of the braille display appreciate it. However, when the page is loading in it’s almost completed I get a not secured statement I’m Safari. I hope this is not a problem for you doesn’t seem to be a real issue with the site I just thought you might want to be aware of it.

Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Richard
Turner <richardturner42@outlook.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2021 12:42:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 40 review? Thoughts?


I put up my own audio description of the Orbit Reader 40 along with my attempt at a recording of the two keyboards being used to compare the sound levels.

You can find them on my web site under the Orbit Research Information page, here:

Orbit Research Information
(turner42.com)<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http
%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2FOrbitResearchInformation.html&amp;data=04%
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HTH,



Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900



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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 5:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 40 review? Thoughts?



This is helpful.

I just find it odd that there seems to be very little out there on this particular model. Even YouTube doesn’t really have anything. Just that one French language video JI linked to. Tons of reviews and postings about the 20 cell displays, but no dice on the 40 cell one but for the generic postings of specs and order form .

Thanks,





Cristóbal



From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 3:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 40 review? Thoughts?



There has been a lot of discussion about it on the Orbit Reader list of course.

I will write something up for AppleVis at some point soon.

But, starting from physical comparisons.

1. It is no louder while refreshing.

2. The keys are louder than those on the 20.

3. The keys are laid out more like you would expect from other displays, in that the 8 dots are kind of fanned out ergonomically. So unlike the 20, dots 7 and 8 are very comfortable for your little fingers to land on.

4. The space bar is on a slightly angled lip at the front, then the braille cells, then the keyboard.

5. there are cursor routing buttons above each cell.

6. It has a USB slot so you can use a thumb drive for alternate storage.

On my web site, I have samples of the alarm sounds under the heading Orbit Research information.

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
rner42.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7Cbd93b038b39e4a70b54208d907074ed8%7
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I really like the display. Like the 20, it is the best feeling braille of any display.

You do have to install a driver to run it with JAWS so it emulates the Vario Ultra 40. Vispero says it is up to Orbit Research to fix the driver ...

But it works great with Jaws, or NVDA.







Richard

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds
discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt



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On Apr 22, 2021, at 2:46 PM, Cristóbal <cristobalmuli@gmail.com<mailto:cristobalmuli@gmail.com>> wrote:



Hello list,

So I was thinking of upgrading to the Orbit Reader 40 display, but haven’t really been able to come across any reviews on the product. Write ups on the Orbit Reader 20 Plus yes, but not much for the 40. Can I just assume that they’re the same, but for amount of Braille cells?

There was one review I came across on Apple Vis but it was more focused on the device's sound<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.applevis.com%2Fforum%2Fbraille-apple-products%2Forbit-reader-40-audio-volume-level-examples&;data=04%7C01%7C%7Cbd93b038b39e4a70b54208d907074ed8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637548550234917390%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=0e7mlyj3%2B2%2FjC1STtRrFW1pan6cyuOKxacw6ZXcuQ7E%3D&amp;reserved=0> than anything else. I did find one YouTube video,<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DvmbvLsoCe7o&;data=04%7C01%7C%7Cbd93b038b39e4a70b54208d907074ed8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637548550234917390%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=Hk7MfraX64Gwhw7zcIhx3q4uYzF91QWQDvm941qm7zA%3D&amp;reserved=0> but it’s in French and well… I don’t speak French.

I was thinking of the Mantis 40, but honestly, I’m pretty happy with my mechanical keyboard for my desktop and I already have an 80 cell display connected to it, so this would be a more portable option for my laptop and iPhone for reading mostly. I don’t need another keyboard for that.

Anyway, if anyone’s got an Orbit Reader 40, I’d be curious to know their thoughts on how it’s holding up and general usage.

Thanks,

Cristóbal









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