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Tony Sohl
Hi my wife and I got the family plan for Microsoft Offic e 365 and we are learing how to use it with JAWS for Windows.
Are there training tutorials on Freedom's page? Also, when using word, is there a way to get rid of the ribbons if you don't want to use them? -- Sent from my Windows 10 HP
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If you use Jaws you can enable what is called Virtual Ribbons, they convert the ribbon menus to a more traditional menu. However, I highly reecommend you simply get used to the ribbon menu, it's here to stay at least for now and in my opinion it's better to learn how to deal with it.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Sohl Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 10:04 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Office 365 Hi my wife and I got the family plan for Microsoft Offic e 365 and we are learing how to use it with JAWS for Windows. Are there training tutorials on Freedom's page? Also, when using word, is there a way to get rid of the ribbons if you don't want to use them? -- Sent from my Windows 10 HP
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Tim Ford
Hello All,
Does anyone know a JAWS friendly way to convert a music file from the .oga format to .mp3? Tim Ford
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Hi tim,
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There are any number of online converters. If you Google "convert .oga to .mp3" you find them, here is one reputable example I have used many times dfor converting all sorts of files: https://www.zamzar.com/convert/oga-to-mp3/
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 11:09 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Office 365 Hello All, Does anyone know a JAWS friendly way to convert a music file from the .oga format to .mp3? Tim Ford
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Andrew Summers
How do you do that?
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: 09 December 2020 07:00 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Office 365 If you use Jaws you can enable what is called Virtual Ribbons, they convert the ribbon menus to a more traditional menu. However, I highly reecommend you simply get used to the ribbon menu, it's here to stay at least for now and in my opinion it's better to learn how to deal with it. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Sohl Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 10:04 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Office 365 Hi my wife and I got the family plan for Microsoft Offic e 365 and we are learing how to use it with JAWS for Windows. Are there training tutorials on Freedom's page? Also, when using word, is there a way to get rid of the ribbons if you don't want to use them? -- Sent from my Windows 10 HP
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Richard Turner
All the assistive Tech instructors I worked with turned off the virtual ribbons, or rather, did not turn them on because it is best to learn to use them like everyone else.
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You cause yourself more convoluted steps to go through if you use them. Virtual Ribbons was introduced in Jaws 12 as a way of dealing with the new ribbon structure. Since both Jaws and office have improved a lot over the years, it is best to just learn to use them as they are. Richard "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59 Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com *I'm not the card shark
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew Summers via groups.io Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 4:35 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Office 365 How do you do that? -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: 09 December 2020 07:00 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Office 365 If you use Jaws you can enable what is called Virtual Ribbons, they convert the ribbon menus to a more traditional menu. However, I highly reecommend you simply get used to the ribbon menu, it's here to stay at least for now and in my opinion it's better to learn how to deal with it. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Sohl Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 10:04 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Office 365 Hi my wife and I got the family plan for Microsoft Offic e 365 and we are learing how to use it with JAWS for Windows. Are there training tutorials on Freedom's page? Also, when using word, is there a way to get rid of the ribbons if you don't want to use them? -- Sent from my Windows 10 HP
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Mario
when I hear about not using the virtual ribbons, I wonder why doesn't FS/Vispero just get rid of it.
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From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com] To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 10:04 AM Subject: Office 365 All the assistive Tech instructors I worked with turned off the virtual ribbons, or rather, did not turn them on because it is best to learn to use them like everyone else. You cause yourself more convoluted steps to go through if you use them. Virtual Ribbons was introduced in Jaws 12 as a way of dealing with the new ribbon structure. Since both Jaws and office have improved a lot over the years, it is best to just learn to use them as they are. Richard "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59 Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com *I'm not the card shark -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew Summers via groups.io Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 4:35 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Office 365 How do you do that? -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: 09 December 2020 07:00 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Office 365 If you use Jaws you can enable what is called Virtual Ribbons, they convert the ribbon menus to a more traditional menu. However, I highly reecommend you simply get used to the ribbon menu, it's here to stay at least for now and in my opinion it's better to learn how to deal with it. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Sohl Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 10:04 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Office 365 Hi my wife and I got the family plan for Microsoft Offic e 365 and we are learing how to use it with JAWS for Windows. Are there training tutorials on Freedom's page? Also, when using word, is there a way to get rid of the ribbons if you don't want to use them? -- Sent from my Windows 10 HP .
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What makes sense for many does not mean it makes sense for all and I am sure there are still plenty of Jaws users who like the virtual ribbon feature.
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I also wonder why Vispero does not get rid of the Research It feature in Jaws, the only time I ever use it at all is a few times a year when I want to look up an area code and while I admit that is relatively simple using Research It, it really is not any more difficult using Google or I can simply ask my Google Home speaker, but then of course not everybody has a Google speaker or other smart speaker.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 7:50 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Office 365 when I hear about not using the virtual ribbons, I wonder why doesn't FS/Vispero just get rid of it. -------- Original Message -------- From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com] To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 10:04 AM Subject: Office 365 All the assistive Tech instructors I worked with turned off the virtual ribbons, or rather, did not turn them on because it is best to learn to use them like everyone else. You cause yourself more convoluted steps to go through if you use them. Virtual Ribbons was introduced in Jaws 12 as a way of dealing with the new ribbon structure. Since both Jaws and office have improved a lot over the years, it is best to just learn to use them as they are. Richard "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59 Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com *I'm not the card shark -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew Summers via groups.io Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 4:35 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Office 365 How do you do that? -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: 09 December 2020 07:00 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Office 365 If you use Jaws you can enable what is called Virtual Ribbons, they convert the ribbon menus to a more traditional menu. However, I highly reecommend you simply get used to the ribbon menu, it's here to stay at least for now and in my opinion it's better to learn how to deal with it. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Sohl Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 10:04 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Office 365 Hi my wife and I got the family plan for Microsoft Offic e 365 and we are learing how to use it with JAWS for Windows. Are there training tutorials on Freedom's page? Also, when using word, is there a way to get rid of the ribbons if you don't want to use them? -- Sent from my Windows 10 HP .
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Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Hi, Mario. They don't get rid of virtual ribbon because there are quite a few JAWS users who still aren't comfortable using the ribbon, and they want to make it as easy for these people as possible, so they'll keep using JAWS.
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Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 7:50 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Office 365 when I hear about not using the virtual ribbons, I wonder why doesn't FS/Vispero just get rid of it. -------- Original Message -------- From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com] To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 10:04 AM Subject: Office 365 All the assistive Tech instructors I worked with turned off the virtual ribbons, or rather, did not turn them on because it is best to learn to use them like everyone else. You cause yourself more convoluted steps to go through if you use them. Virtual Ribbons was introduced in Jaws 12 as a way of dealing with the new ribbon structure. Since both Jaws and office have improved a lot over the years, it is best to just learn to use them as they are. Richard "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59 Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com *I'm not the card shark -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew Summers via groups.io Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 4:35 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Office 365 How do you do that? -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: 09 December 2020 07:00 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Office 365 If you use Jaws you can enable what is called Virtual Ribbons, they convert the ribbon menus to a more traditional menu. However, I highly reecommend you simply get used to the ribbon menu, it's here to stay at least for now and in my opinion it's better to learn how to deal with it. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Sohl Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 10:04 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Office 365 Hi my wife and I got the family plan for Microsoft Offic e 365 and we are learing how to use it with JAWS for Windows. Are there training tutorials on Freedom's page? Also, when using word, is there a way to get rid of the ribbons if you don't want to use them? -- Sent from my Windows 10 HP .
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On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:20 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
All the assistive Tech instructors I worked with turned off the virtual ribbons, or rather, did not turn them on because it is best to learn to use them like everyone else.- I'm glad to hear that this philosophy is shared widely. It is always best to know how to actually interact with any given operating system or piece of application software using its native interface. And unless you believe the only computer you'll ever use is your own, it makes jumping on to another so much easier when you already know how without using unnecessary intermediary software. Using Ribbons to Control Program Functions in Microsoft Windows - G. Asner Using the Ribbon Interface in Windows via the Keyboard The ribbons are menus, they simply have a slightly different traversal interface. Once you know how to traverse them . . . -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time. ~ André Gide
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tina sohl
Hi. We just subscribed to office 365 over the weekend and have a month
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to try it and see if we like it. One thing i did was turn on the option to autosave to one drive, but how do you turn that off if you want to and can anyone give us any other tips to get going with it or are there training tips on the website for jaws. thanks in advance.
On 12/9/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:20 AM, Richard Turner wrote:-
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Dan Longmore
Hi,
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There are lots of help topics and resources on the Microsoft site. Also, you can save to locations other than "One Drive" by using the "Save as" option in the file menu. The program is very functional with JAWS and like all software has some glitches and hiccups at times. Dan
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of tina sohl Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 1:46 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Office 365 Hi. We just subscribed to office 365 over the weekend and have a month to try it and see if we like it. One thing i did was turn on the option to autosave to one drive, but how do you turn that off if you want to and can anyone give us any other tips to get going with it or are there training tips on the website for jaws. thanks in advance. On 12/9/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote: On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:20 AM, Richard Turner wrote:-
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Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Hi, Tina. While Word is open,
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1. Press ALT f, followed by T for Options. 2. Arrow down to Save. 3. TAB through the settings there, and you should see something like, Save only to my local computer, check box not checked. 4. Check that check box, TAB to OK, and press ENTER. Now saving to OneDrive should be turned off. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of tina sohl Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 10:46 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Office 365 Hi. We just subscribed to office 365 over the weekend and have a month to try it and see if we like it. One thing i did was turn on the option to autosave to one drive, but how do you turn that off if you want to and can anyone give us any other tips to get going with it or are there training tips on the website for jaws. thanks in advance. On 12/9/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote: On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:20 AM, Richard Turner wrote:-
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Tony Sohl
Hi how do you get rid of the ribbons if you don't want them? Is this in settings?
Thanks for all the help you have given us. One thing we sent out a christmas newsletter that we do every year and my father in law just got his copy and he told me it rtained the formatting structure. Is that new? -- Sent from my Windows 10 HP
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On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 06:57 PM, Tony Sohl wrote:
Hi how do you get rid of the ribbons if you don't want them? Is this in settings?- You don't, at least not literally. The Virtual Ribbon is a JAWS feature and turning it on or off is done in JAWS settings. The virtual ribbon acts as a mask or skin for the actual ribbons used by Windows or application programs, but they are still there because they have been the standard user interface under Windows for many years now. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time. ~ André Gide
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Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Hi, Tony.As Brian just wrote, you don't actually get rid of the ribbons.
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Instead, you change them into something that approaches the feel of a classic menu. To do this, 1. Open Word. 2. Press JAWS key plus V to enter Quick Settings. 3. In the search box which appears, type virtual 4. Arrow down, and if you see something like, Virtual Ribbon Menu not checked 5. Check this box with the Space Bar. 6. TAB to the OK button, and press Space or ENTER. Now, the ribbons will appear different, and according to some people's thinking, will be easier to use, although I don't personally think this to be true. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Sohl Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 3:58 PM To: support@serotek.com; main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Office 365 Hi how do you get rid of the ribbons if you don't want them? Is this in settings? Thanks for all the help you have given us. One thing we sent out a christmas newsletter that we do every year and my father in law just got his copy and he told me it rtained the formatting structure. Is that new? -- Sent from my Windows 10 HP
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tina sohl
Thannks Bill. We appreciate it.
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On 12/9/20, Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote:
Hi, Tony.As Brian just wrote, you don't actually get rid of the ribbons.
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tina sohl
Thanks Brian.
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On 12/9/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 06:57 PM, Tony Sohl wrote:-
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cédric Paulet
Good afternoon,
You can try classic menus for office vcompatible with office 365. Sincerely yours Cedric
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On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 06:57 PM, Tony Sohl wrote:
- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time. ~ André Gide
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