Moderated Microsoft outlook and Jaws.


Lindsay Cowell
 

Hi all

 

Can anyone tell me how to do it so that the messages sent to a mailing list go into the right folder in outlook, even when the message is a reply to a message I’ve sent to a mailing list? The folder is created and everything, but the messages aren’t going into it.

 

Lindsay Cowell


 

Creating Email Rules in Outlook 2010 & Newer Versions

Unless they've really recently changed something in M365, Outlook 365 follows the same process.
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It’s not lack of contact with the world off campus that leads to the liberal views common in academia — it’s being trained to think critically and practicing this craft daily as we look at the world around us that makes us the libs conservatives so dislike.

     ~ Eliot A. Brenowitz, Seattle; New York Times, Letters, Tales of Town and Gown: Is the Campus Isolated?, August 20, 2022


Van Lant, Robin
 

Lindsay,

I saw Brian sent you the article.  I find the Rules dialog a bit tricky.  Here is the way I do what you want. I put focus on the one of the messages that I want to be moved.  Don’t open it. Use the context menu with Application key or Shift F10 and arrow up until you hear create a rule. Arrow right. The first option is usually to move the message from the sender of that message. I hit enter and a list of available folders opens. Select the one you want and hit enter.  With group lists, I also like to repeat these steps, but under the create rule submenu, I also select the option to move messages addressed to the group.  This seems to catch all messages, except the ones a group member sends directly to me.  

 

HTH.

 

 

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Hi all

 

Can anyone tell me how to do it so that the messages sent to a mailing list go into the right folder in outlook, even when the message is a reply to a message I’ve sent to a mailing list? The folder is created and everything, but the messages aren’t going into it.

 

Lindsay Cowell



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On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 12:34 PM, Van Lant, Robin wrote:
I find the Rules dialog a bit tricky.
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That's because it is.  The number of things you can capture on and filter using Message Rules is insanely complex, particularly if used in combination with one another.

I consider the Outlook Rules Dialog to be one of those things where you need to concentrate on precisely what it is you want to get done and largely ignore all the other stuff surrounding that.  Most rules are, as you've indicated, pretty simple in the things you're capturing on and what you're most often doing is moving something captured to a specific folder.  Once you get the mechanics of that down, ignoring all the other stuff, it becomes way less overwhelming to deal with creating Outlook Rules.
 
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It’s not lack of contact with the world off campus that leads to the liberal views common in academia — it’s being trained to think critically and practicing this craft daily as we look at the world around us that makes us the libs conservatives so dislike.

     ~ Eliot A. Brenowitz, Seattle; New York Times, Letters, Tales of Town and Gown: Is the Campus Isolated?, August 20, 2022


Ashleigh Piccinino
 

I've found that whenever I create rules in outlook, they don't stick. Sorry about that.

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Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 2:29:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Microsoft outlook and Jaws.
 
Creating Email Rules in Outlook 2010 & Newer Versions

Unless they've really recently changed something in M365, Outlook 365 follows the same process.
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Brian Virginia, USA Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13)  

It’s not lack of contact with the world off campus that leads to the liberal views common in academia — it’s being trained to think critically and practicing this craft daily as we look at the world around us that makes us the libs conservatives so dislike.

     ~ Eliot A. Brenowitz, Seattle; New York Times, Letters, Tales of Town and Gown: Is the Campus Isolated?, August 20, 2022


 

On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 10:40 AM, Ashleigh Piccinino wrote:
I've found that whenever I create rules in outlook, they don't stick.
-
Then:
1. You are doing something incorrectly.
and/or 
2. The triggering conditions have changed (which can happen, a lot).

Rules don't just vanish and if triggered they take the action(s) you specify.  They're a bedrock feature of Outlook (and their equivalents are in other email clients, too).
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Brian Virginia, USA Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13)  

It’s not lack of contact with the world off campus that leads to the liberal views common in academia — it’s being trained to think critically and practicing this craft daily as we look at the world around us that makes us the libs conservatives so dislike.

     ~ Eliot A. Brenowitz, Seattle; New York Times, Letters, Tales of Town and Gown: Is the Campus Isolated?, August 20, 2022


Dan Longmore
 

Hi,

  Same here, rules have stopped working correctly at times with no interaction on my part.  Wish it was as simple as doing something wrong or a trigger changing.  While in many cases this is correct the answer does not apply to all times.

Been in this computer arena to know that just when one thinks this is the answer it is not.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 10:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft outlook and Jaws.

 

On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 10:40 AM, Ashleigh Piccinino wrote:

I've found that whenever I create rules in outlook, they don't stick.

-
Then:
1. You are doing something incorrectly.
and/or 
2. The triggering conditions have changed (which can happen, a lot).

Rules don't just vanish and if triggered they take the action(s) you specify.  They're a bedrock feature of Outlook (and their equivalents are in other email clients, too).
--

Brian Virginia, USA Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13)  

It’s not lack of contact with the world off campus that leads to the liberal views common in academia — it’s being trained to think critically and practicing this craft daily as we look at the world around us that makes us the libs conservatives so dislike.

     ~ Eliot A. Brenowitz, Seattle; New York Times, Letters, Tales of Town and Gown: Is the Campus Isolated?, August 20, 2022


 

On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 04:42 PM, Dan Longmore wrote:
While in many cases this is correct the answer does not apply to all times.
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Nothing ever applies to "all times."  But I hear a lot more, "this doesn't work," as a complaint when it's the result of an incorrect rule setup or something changing after a correct rule has been set up and working for months to years than I can count.

It is very infrequent that a rule/filter "doesn't stick" other than something that's supposed to trigger it changes and the rule needs to be updated.  There can always be corruptions with any software, but that's not very common.

My main point is that rules most certainly do and should "stick" for very long periods if there is no variability in the triggering criteria after they're set up.  And as soon as they don't, the first thing to check is whether something that's been set up in the collection of things examined has changed from the sender's end, not yours.

One of the reasons I try (and one can only try) to keep rules as simple as possible as far as combining triggers is because all it takes is for one of the many triggers in the "anded together" stream to change and, bam, the rule is dead.  One or two (ignoring "on this computer" which for most of us is always there) triggers, max.
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It’s not lack of contact with the world off campus that leads to the liberal views common in academia — it’s being trained to think critically and practicing this craft daily as we look at the world around us that makes us the libs conservatives so dislike.

     ~ Eliot A. Brenowitz, Seattle; New York Times, Letters, Tales of Town and Gown: Is the Campus Isolated?, August 20, 2022


Adrian Spratt
 

I suspect the explanation does lie, as Brian indicates, in changes made by the addressee or other party. It’s regrettable to suggest that the problem might lie with the person posting. Obviously, if a rule worked for a while, it was set correctly. For the record, the rules I created some years ago have stayed in effect the entire time except when, for example, a list serv shuts down.

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 4:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft outlook and Jaws.

 

Hi,

  Same here, rules have stopped working correctly at times with no interaction on my part.  Wish it was as simple as doing something wrong or a trigger changing.  While in many cases this is correct the answer does not apply to all times.

Been in this computer arena to know that just when one thinks this is the answer it is not.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 10:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft outlook and Jaws.

 

On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 10:40 AM, Ashleigh Piccinino wrote:

I've found that whenever I create rules in outlook, they don't stick.

-
Then:
1. You are doing something incorrectly.
and/or 
2. The triggering conditions have changed (which can happen, a lot).

Rules don't just vanish and if triggered they take the action(s) you specify.  They're a bedrock feature of Outlook (and their equivalents are in other email clients, too).
--

Brian Virginia, USA Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13)  

It’s not lack of contact with the world off campus that leads to the liberal views common in academia — it’s being trained to think critically and practicing this craft daily as we look at the world around us that makes us the libs conservatives so dislike.

     ~ Eliot A. Brenowitz, Seattle; New York Times, Letters, Tales of Town and Gown: Is the Campus Isolated?, August 20, 2022


 

On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 06:12 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
It’s regrettable to suggest that the problem might lie with the person posting.
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Again, we'll have to agree to disagree.

I don't know of beginners (and even very experienced) users of anything that might not make a mistake.  And checking whether one might have is the very first and easiest diagnostic step.

If that hurts someone's feelings, I don't apologize.  It's simply a fact of cyber life.  I can't count the number of times when someone's said to me, "You probably screwed up," that I had, indeed, screwed up.
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Brian Virginia, USA Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13)  

It’s not lack of contact with the world off campus that leads to the liberal views common in academia — it’s being trained to think critically and practicing this craft daily as we look at the world around us that makes us the libs conservatives so dislike.

     ~ Eliot A. Brenowitz, Seattle; New York Times, Letters, Tales of Town and Gown: Is the Campus Isolated?, August 20, 2022


Dan Longmore
 

Brian,

  We agree that most often human error can  be found to be the root cause.  Yet as I am sure you have seen over the years when it comes to technology the unexpected and weird occurs at times and one is left without any good reason.

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 6:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft outlook and Jaws.

 

On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 06:12 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

It’s regrettable to suggest that the problem might lie with the person posting.

-
Again, we'll have to agree to disagree.

I don't know of beginners (and even very experienced) users of anything that might not make a mistake.  And checking whether one might have is the very first and easiest diagnostic step.

If that hurts someone's feelings, I don't apologize.  It's simply a fact of cyber life.  I can't count the number of times when someone's said to me, "You probably screwed up," that I had, indeed, screwed up.
--

Brian Virginia, USA Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13)  

It’s not lack of contact with the world off campus that leads to the liberal views common in academia — it’s being trained to think critically and practicing this craft daily as we look at the world around us that makes us the libs conservatives so dislike.

     ~ Eliot A. Brenowitz, Seattle; New York Times, Letters, Tales of Town and Gown: Is the Campus Isolated?, August 20, 2022


Adrian Spratt
 

Brian,

 

The two posters indicated that the rules they created first worked, then stopped working. That has nothing to do with user error, in which case the rule would never have worked in the first place.

 

You’re selective in what you copy to reply to, so once again here’s what I actually wrote:

 

I suspect the explanation does lie, as Brian indicates, in changes made by the addressee or other party. It’s regrettable to suggest that the problem might

lie with the person posting. Obviously, if a rule worked for a while, it was set correctly. For the record, the rules I created some years ago have stayed

in effect the entire time except when, for example, a list serv shuts down.

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 6:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft outlook and Jaws.

 

On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 06:12 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

It’s regrettable to suggest that the problem might lie with the person posting.

-
Again, we'll have to agree to disagree.

I don't know of beginners (and even very experienced) users of anything that might not make a mistake.  And checking whether one might have is the very first and easiest diagnostic step.

If that hurts someone's feelings, I don't apologize.  It's simply a fact of cyber life.  I can't count the number of times when someone's said to me, "You probably screwed up," that I had, indeed, screwed up.
--

Brian Virginia, USA Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13)  

It’s not lack of contact with the world off campus that leads to the liberal views common in academia — it’s being trained to think critically and practicing this craft daily as we look at the world around us that makes us the libs conservatives so dislike.

     ~ Eliot A. Brenowitz, Seattle; New York Times, Letters, Tales of Town and Gown: Is the Campus Isolated?, August 20, 2022


 

On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 07:05 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
You’re selective in what you copy to reply to
-
Because what I select is what I'm replying to.  That's what I expect anyone's selections indicate.

And I suggest you re-read what I wrote in message  

It is, very simply, a statement of facts.  If the idea of suggestion human error is just too much for any adult to bear, I really don't care.  You seem to like to ascribe to me personal attacks that simply are not there, and I won't apologize for something I didn't do.  If you want to consider this a personal attack, then please do.  It's in direct response to your selectiveness and pissiness.
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Brian Virginia, USA Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13)  

It’s not lack of contact with the world off campus that leads to the liberal views common in academia — it’s being trained to think critically and practicing this craft daily as we look at the world around us that makes us the libs conservatives so dislike.

     ~ Eliot A. Brenowitz, Seattle; New York Times, Letters, Tales of Town and Gown: Is the Campus Isolated?, August 20, 2022


Adrian Spratt
 

I’ll try one more time. If the user gets a rule to work and it later ceases to work, the answer isn’t that the user made mistakes. It’s a mistake only when the rule never works. Again, if you read and copied my entire message, this point would, or should, be obvious to you. Neither person who posted said they couldn’t get the rule to work; rather, that they got the rule to work but then it stopped working. So your suggestion that they might have made mistakes served no purpose and was a distraction. Your point was valid that after a rule has gone into effect, changes beyond the user’s control can nullify it. That would have been sufficient and consistent in the spirit of assistance.

 

I won’t post again to this thread since it now has nothing to do with JAWS.

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 7:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft outlook and Jaws.

 

On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 07:05 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

You’re selective in what you copy to reply to

-
Because what I select is what I'm replying to.  That's what I expect anyone's selections indicate.

And I suggest you re-read what I wrote in message  

It is, very simply, a statement of facts.  If the idea of suggestion human error is just too much for any adult to bear, I really don't care.  You seem to like to ascribe to me personal attacks that simply are not there, and I won't apologize for something I didn't do.  If you want to consider this a personal attack, then please do.  It's in direct response to your selectiveness and pissiness.
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Brian Virginia, USA Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13)  

It’s not lack of contact with the world off campus that leads to the liberal views common in academia — it’s being trained to think critically and practicing this craft daily as we look at the world around us that makes us the libs conservatives so dislike.

     ~ Eliot A. Brenowitz, Seattle; New York Times, Letters, Tales of Town and Gown: Is the Campus Isolated?, August 20, 2022


Stan Bobbitt
 

The same thing here with my rules. I haven’t changed anything and the list messages haven’t changed that I know of, yet messages are being thrown about in different folders.

It’s troublesome but I just tap the applications key on a message that’s in the wrong folder, arrow down to rules, enter, choose the correct folder, and it puts all those messages back in the right place.

StanB

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 4:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft outlook and Jaws.

 

Hi,

  Same here, rules have stopped working correctly at times with no interaction on my part.  Wish it was as simple as doing something wrong or a trigger changing.  While in many cases this is correct the answer does not apply to all times.

Been in this computer arena to know that just when one thinks this is the answer it is not.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 10:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft outlook and Jaws.

 

On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 10:40 AM, Ashleigh Piccinino wrote:

I've found that whenever I create rules in outlook, they don't stick.

-
Then:
1. You are doing something incorrectly.
and/or 
2. The triggering conditions have changed (which can happen, a lot).

Rules don't just vanish and if triggered they take the action(s) you specify.  They're a bedrock feature of Outlook (and their equivalents are in other email clients, too).
--

Brian Virginia, USA Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13)  

It’s not lack of contact with the world off campus that leads to the liberal views common in academia — it’s being trained to think critically and practicing this craft daily as we look at the world around us that makes us the libs conservatives so dislike.

     ~ Eliot A. Brenowitz, Seattle; New York Times, Letters, Tales of Town and Gown: Is the Campus Isolated?, August 20, 2022


Kimsan
 

Lots of human errors going on!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stan Bobbitt
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 11:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft outlook and Jaws.

 

The same thing here with my rules. I haven’t changed anything and the list messages haven’t changed that I know of, yet messages are being thrown about in different folders.

It’s troublesome but I just tap the applications key on a message that’s in the wrong folder, arrow down to rules, enter, choose the correct folder, and it puts all those messages back in the right place.

StanB

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 4:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft outlook and Jaws.

 

Hi,

  Same here, rules have stopped working correctly at times with no interaction on my part.  Wish it was as simple as doing something wrong or a trigger changing.  While in many cases this is correct the answer does not apply to all times.

Been in this computer arena to know that just when one thinks this is the answer it is not.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 10:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft outlook and Jaws.

 

On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 10:40 AM, Ashleigh Piccinino wrote:

I've found that whenever I create rules in outlook, they don't stick.

-
Then:
1. You are doing something incorrectly.
and/or 
2. The triggering conditions have changed (which can happen, a lot).

Rules don't just vanish and if triggered they take the action(s) you specify.  They're a bedrock feature of Outlook (and their equivalents are in other email clients, too).
--

Brian Virginia, USA Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13)  

It’s not lack of contact with the world off campus that leads to the liberal views common in academia — it’s being trained to think critically and practicing this craft daily as we look at the world around us that makes us the libs conservatives so dislike.

     ~ Eliot A. Brenowitz, Seattle; New York Times, Letters, Tales of Town and Gown: Is the Campus Isolated?, August 20, 2022


Jason White
 

Mine are working correctly with a Microsoft 365/Exchange Online account. They’re server side, so they take effect regardless of which device I’m using to read the mail.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 9:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft outlook and Jaws.

 

Lots of human errors going on!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stan Bobbitt
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 11:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft outlook and Jaws.

 

The same thing here with my rules. I haven’t changed anything and the list messages haven’t changed that I know of, yet messages are being thrown about in different folders.

It’s troublesome but I just tap the applications key on a message that’s in the wrong folder, arrow down to rules, enter, choose the correct folder, and it puts all those messages back in the right place.

StanB

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 4:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft outlook and Jaws.

 

Hi,

  Same here, rules have stopped working correctly at times with no interaction on my part.  Wish it was as simple as doing something wrong or a trigger changing.  While in many cases this is correct the answer does not apply to all times.

Been in this computer arena to know that just when one thinks this is the answer it is not.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 10:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft outlook and Jaws.

 

On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 10:40 AM, Ashleigh Piccinino wrote:

I've found that whenever I create rules in outlook, they don't stick.

-
Then:
1. You are doing something incorrectly.
and/or 
2. The triggering conditions have changed (which can happen, a lot).

Rules don't just vanish and if triggered they take the action(s) you specify.  They're a bedrock feature of Outlook (and their equivalents are in other email clients, too).
--

Brian Virginia, USA Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13)  

It’s not lack of contact with the world off campus that leads to the liberal views common in academia — it’s being trained to think critically and practicing this craft daily as we look at the world around us that makes us the libs conservatives so dislike.

     ~ Eliot A. Brenowitz, Seattle; New York Times, Letters, Tales of Town and Gown: Is the Campus Isolated?, August 20, 2022


 

On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 09:26 AM, Jason White wrote:
Mine are working correctly with a Microsoft 365/Exchange Online account. They’re server side, so they take effect regardless of which device I’m using to read the mail.
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And using server side filtering is always best practice wherever it's supported, for precisely the reason you state.  You have the server do all the heavy lifting before any client device ever touches the actual messages.

Some IMAP services, Gmail being the one I know best, support this, too.  Others don't.  But if you find that rules that have sorted things under Outlook aren't sorting across every device other than where you set them up, that means they're client-side and applicable only to that machine.

Unchecking the "On this computer only" checkbox in during rule creation forces server-side processing when Exchange-based accounts are involved.  I haven't recently checked whether this makes Outlook hand off information to Google in the case of a Gmail IMAP account or not.
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It’s not lack of contact with the world off campus that leads to the liberal views common in academia — it’s being trained to think critically and practicing this craft daily as we look at the world around us that makes us the libs conservatives so dislike.

     ~ Eliot A. Brenowitz, Seattle; New York Times, Letters, Tales of Town and Gown: Is the Campus Isolated?, August 20, 2022


Kimsan
 

So same set up as the below at his work is at my work and it works.

However, at home, I experience the same issues as some have commented on.

And, I don’t care what anyone says, I know how to put a rule together and it’s far from a human error. Lol.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 6:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft outlook and Jaws.

 

Mine are working correctly with a Microsoft 365/Exchange Online account. They’re server side, so they take effect regardless of which device I’m using to read the mail.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 9:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft outlook and Jaws.

 

Lots of human errors going on!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stan Bobbitt
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 11:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft outlook and Jaws.

 

The same thing here with my rules. I haven’t changed anything and the list messages haven’t changed that I know of, yet messages are being thrown about in different folders.

It’s troublesome but I just tap the applications key on a message that’s in the wrong folder, arrow down to rules, enter, choose the correct folder, and it puts all those messages back in the right place.

StanB

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 4:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft outlook and Jaws.

 

Hi,

  Same here, rules have stopped working correctly at times with no interaction on my part.  Wish it was as simple as doing something wrong or a trigger changing.  While in many cases this is correct the answer does not apply to all times.

Been in this computer arena to know that just when one thinks this is the answer it is not.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 10:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft outlook and Jaws.

 

On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 10:40 AM, Ashleigh Piccinino wrote:

I've found that whenever I create rules in outlook, they don't stick.

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Then:
1. You are doing something incorrectly.
and/or 
2. The triggering conditions have changed (which can happen, a lot).

Rules don't just vanish and if triggered they take the action(s) you specify.  They're a bedrock feature of Outlook (and their equivalents are in other email clients, too).
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Brian Virginia, USA Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13)  

It’s not lack of contact with the world off campus that leads to the liberal views common in academia — it’s being trained to think critically and practicing this craft daily as we look at the world around us that makes us the libs conservatives so dislike.

     ~ Eliot A. Brenowitz, Seattle; New York Times, Letters, Tales of Town and Gown: Is the Campus Isolated?, August 20, 2022