Moderated Message pops up after opening Microsoft program
Karen Reynolds
Hi, Since the latest Windows 11 update last week, I’ve been getting this message that Jaws speaks about a minute or so after the program is opened. So far it happens in Outlook, often while reading a message. It also happens in Edge while reading an article or other page, even listening to a video. Always about a minute or so into it, and earlier today it caused Jaws to stop reading an article. It stated the below message and just stopped. I had to restart it reading again.
Alert!
Any ideas what this is? It is quite annoying.
Karen
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I have no idea what it is, but the nature of the message just screams infection of some kind. Since it's fast and easy, I'd suggest:
--- Doing an Offline Scan with Windows Security Note: Doing an Offline Scan will restart your computer. Save any work in progress and close all programs before proceeding. 1. Open Settings, Update & Security, Windows Security Pane. 2. Activate the Open Windows Security button. 3. In Windows Security, open Virus & threat protection. 4. Activate the Scan options link. 5. Activate the radio button for Windows Defender Offline Scan. 6. Activate the Scan Now button. Your machine will restart and the scan will be performed prior to rebooting into Windows 10 or 11. ---If that doesn't find and fix anything, then my next steps would be: 2. Performing a Windows 10 or 11 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows ISO file If #1 fixes the issue, #2 is unnecessary. Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13) I recoil from any definition of the relationship between artist and audience that is predicated on the audience claiming a sense of betrayal over who someone is or isn’t outside of the context in which they’re performing. What we know about an artist’s personal identity can be interesting and even illuminating; what we are entitled to know is … nothing, basically. ~ Mark Harris, Is Celebrity ‘Queer Baiting’ Really Such a Crime?, T: The New York Times Style Magazine, Feb. 6, 2023 |
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JM Casey
Hey karen. I would start by turning off notifications from browsers, and checking your browser extensions, to see what extensions are running. If you don’t recognise something, remove it, or post about it here and someone can tell you if it’s something you actually want or not. It sounds like you have something unwanted running. Not necessarily malicious, but certainly obstructive.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Sent: March 22, 2023 7:39 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Message pops up after opening Microsoft program
Hi, Since the latest Windows 11 update last week, I’ve been getting this message that Jaws speaks about a minute or so after the program is opened. So far it happens in Outlook, often while reading a message. It also happens in Edge while reading an article or other page, even listening to a video. Always about a minute or so into it, and earlier today it caused Jaws to stop reading an article. It stated the below message and just stopped. I had to restart it reading again.
Alert!
Any ideas what this is? It is quite annoying.
Karen
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Karen Reynolds
Hi, How do I turn this off?
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 4:12 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Message pops up after opening Microsoft program
Hey karen. I would start by turning off notifications from browsers, and checking your browser extensions, to see what extensions are running. If you don’t recognise something, remove it, or post about it here and someone can tell you if it’s something you actually want or not. It sounds like you have something unwanted running. Not necessarily malicious, but certainly obstructive.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Hi, Since the latest Windows 11 update last week, I’ve been getting this message that Jaws speaks about a minute or so after the program is opened. So far it happens in Outlook, often while reading a message. It also happens in Edge while reading an article or other page, even listening to a video. Always about a minute or so into it, and earlier today it caused Jaws to stop reading an article. It stated the below message and just stopped. I had to restart it reading again.
Alert!
Any ideas what this is? It is quite annoying.
Karen
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Karen Reynolds
Hi, I had this same thing happen today while in my documents folder, so it must be a global windows thing, but not a nonwindows software thing. It has not happened in Firefox or adobe yet.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 4:12 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Message pops up after opening Microsoft program
Hey karen. I would start by turning off notifications from browsers, and checking your browser extensions, to see what extensions are running. If you don’t recognise something, remove it, or post about it here and someone can tell you if it’s something you actually want or not. It sounds like you have something unwanted running. Not necessarily malicious, but certainly obstructive.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Hi, Since the latest Windows 11 update last week, I’ve been getting this message that Jaws speaks about a minute or so after the program is opened. So far it happens in Outlook, often while reading a message. It also happens in Edge while reading an article or other page, even listening to a video. Always about a minute or so into it, and earlier today it caused Jaws to stop reading an article. It stated the below message and just stopped. I had to restart it reading again.
Alert!
Any ideas what this is? It is quite annoying.
Karen
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JM Casey
Hey.
Well, maybe, maybe not, as to it being a global windows thing. Edge, at least, is a part of Windows. And any browser, if you have notifications turend on, will have a piece of it running in background to bring up alerts of various kinds. It does seem like something or other is running in the background without your volition.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Sent: March 23, 2023 7:26 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Message pops up after opening Microsoft program
Hi, I had this same thing happen today while in my documents folder, so it must be a global windows thing, but not a nonwindows software thing. It has not happened in Firefox or adobe yet.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Hey karen. I would start by turning off notifications from browsers, and checking your browser extensions, to see what extensions are running. If you don’t recognise something, remove it, or post about it here and someone can tell you if it’s something you actually want or not. It sounds like you have something unwanted running. Not necessarily malicious, but certainly obstructive.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Hi, Since the latest Windows 11 update last week, I’ve been getting this message that Jaws speaks about a minute or so after the program is opened. So far it happens in Outlook, often while reading a message. It also happens in Edge while reading an article or other page, even listening to a video. Always about a minute or so into it, and earlier today it caused Jaws to stop reading an article. It stated the below message and just stopped. I had to restart it reading again.
Alert!
Any ideas what this is? It is quite annoying.
Karen
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JM Casey
Hey karen. You say you mostly use edge? TO turn off notifications in edge: Go to settings, cookies and site permissions, notifications. There might be an option to turn off for all websites (I haven’t really used edge so I’m not sure, but I have google chrome and firefox set to not give these)…otehrwise, you’ll see a list of websites that are currently allowed, and you can block any or all of them. To go to your browser extensions, I believe what you want is to hit the address bar with alt-d (or however you normally get to the address bar), then tab until you hear “browser extensions” or something similar. If you go to “manage extensions” you’ll see everything that’s installed on your browser. It’s possible that something there is causing the alerts. I’m only theorising. They could be coming from something that’s not a web browser, but that seems the most likely possibility. Also, the message you say is coming up doesn’t seem grammatically correct, which is not something I’ve ever seen in a Windows native component.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Sent: March 23, 2023 7:19 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Message pops up after opening Microsoft program
Hi, How do I turn this off?
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Hey karen. I would start by turning off notifications from browsers, and checking your browser extensions, to see what extensions are running. If you don’t recognise something, remove it, or post about it here and someone can tell you if it’s something you actually want or not. It sounds like you have something unwanted running. Not necessarily malicious, but certainly obstructive.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Hi, Since the latest Windows 11 update last week, I’ve been getting this message that Jaws speaks about a minute or so after the program is opened. So far it happens in Outlook, often while reading a message. It also happens in Edge while reading an article or other page, even listening to a video. Always about a minute or so into it, and earlier today it caused Jaws to stop reading an article. It stated the below message and just stopped. I had to restart it reading again.
Alert!
Any ideas what this is? It is quite annoying.
Karen
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Karen Reynolds
If it is, then it is embedded in Windows and has only popped up since the most recent update. I get it about a minute or two after opening Outlook, Edge, and even documents. It doesn’t seem to occur in Firefox or Adobe.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 8:34 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Message pops up after opening Microsoft program
Hey.
Well, maybe, maybe not, as to it being a global windows thing. Edge, at least, is a part of Windows. And any browser, if you have notifications turend on, will have a piece of it running in background to bring up alerts of various kinds. It does seem like something or other is running in the background without your volition.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Hi, I had this same thing happen today while in my documents folder, so it must be a global windows thing, but not a nonwindows software thing. It has not happened in Firefox or adobe yet.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Hey karen. I would start by turning off notifications from browsers, and checking your browser extensions, to see what extensions are running. If you don’t recognise something, remove it, or post about it here and someone can tell you if it’s something you actually want or not. It sounds like you have something unwanted running. Not necessarily malicious, but certainly obstructive.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Hi, Since the latest Windows 11 update last week, I’ve been getting this message that Jaws speaks about a minute or so after the program is opened. So far it happens in Outlook, often while reading a message. It also happens in Edge while reading an article or other page, even listening to a video. Always about a minute or so into it, and earlier today it caused Jaws to stop reading an article. It stated the below message and just stopped. I had to restart it reading again.
Alert!
Any ideas what this is? It is quite annoying.
Karen
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JM Casey
Hey karen.
When you say ‘even documents”, do you mean documents in notepad? In Microsoft Word? Or do you mean just hanging out in a folder with File Explorer and not specifically looking at a document? Thing is, Windows is always running – there’s always a whole bunch of components of the OS running even if you don’t have any visual windows open. Other programmes can also run in the background without open windows, and you wouldn’t necessarily know about them. So narrowing it down to how or when this message appears and when it doesn’t would be helfpul. The fact that it started after an update sounds suspicious, but honestly, could still be a coincidence. I also can’t find any reference to the weirdly phrased message you are getting on the web. “Click to back to the top” or “click to back to top” just doesn’t sound like the sort of message that windows would ever generate That is the message, right? Sorry, I deleted your original message so am unable to refer back to it. A thing to check might be what programmesa re startinga t startup. If you go to task manager with ctrl-shift-escape, then go to the startup tab, you will be able to see a list of some of the things windows runs automatically each time you start the computer. See if anything looks unusual. Or if you like, just copy the list here.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Sent: March 23, 2023 11:06 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Message pops up after opening Microsoft program
If it is, then it is embedded in Windows and has only popped up since the most recent update. I get it about a minute or two after opening Outlook, Edge, and even documents. It doesn’t seem to occur in Firefox or Adobe.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Hey.
Well, maybe, maybe not, as to it being a global windows thing. Edge, at least, is a part of Windows. And any browser, if you have notifications turend on, will have a piece of it running in background to bring up alerts of various kinds. It does seem like something or other is running in the background without your volition.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Hi, I had this same thing happen today while in my documents folder, so it must be a global windows thing, but not a nonwindows software thing. It has not happened in Firefox or adobe yet.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Hey karen. I would start by turning off notifications from browsers, and checking your browser extensions, to see what extensions are running. If you don’t recognise something, remove it, or post about it here and someone can tell you if it’s something you actually want or not. It sounds like you have something unwanted running. Not necessarily malicious, but certainly obstructive.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Hi, Since the latest Windows 11 update last week, I’ve been getting this message that Jaws speaks about a minute or so after the program is opened. So far it happens in Outlook, often while reading a message. It also happens in Edge while reading an article or other page, even listening to a video. Always about a minute or so into it, and earlier today it caused Jaws to stop reading an article. It stated the below message and just stopped. I had to restart it reading again.
Alert!
Any ideas what this is? It is quite annoying.
Karen
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Karen Reynolds
Hi Brian, The one thing I did differently was to make sure everything was up to date. I ran this today and nothing showed up.
My husband has started looking at the event viewer when it happens. He also did research on it and there are complaints about it. Apparently it is an Office thing. I’m planning to upgrade from 2019 to 2021 and see if that fixes it.
Thank you. Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 11:29 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Message pops up after opening Microsoft program
I have no idea what it is, but the nature of the message just screams infection of some kind. Since it's fast and easy, I'd suggest: Doing an Offline Scan with Windows Security Note: Doing an Offline Scan will restart your computer. Save any work in progress and close all programs before proceeding. 1. Open Settings, Update & Security, Windows Security Pane. 2. Activate the Open Windows Security button. 3. In Windows Security, open Virus & threat protection. 4. Activate the Scan options link. 5. Activate the radio button for Windows Defender Offline Scan. 6. Activate the Scan Now button. Your machine will restart and the scan will be performed prior to rebooting into Windows 10 or 11. --- 2. Performing a Windows 10 or 11 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows ISO file If #1 fixes the issue, #2 is unnecessary. -- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13) I recoil from any definition of the relationship between artist and audience that is predicated on the audience claiming a sense of betrayal over who someone is or isn’t outside of the context in which they’re performing. What we know about an artist’s personal identity can be interesting and even illuminating; what we are entitled to know is … nothing, basically. ~ Mark Harris, Is Celebrity ‘Queer Baiting’ Really Such a Crime?, T: The New York Times Style Magazine, Feb. 6, 2023 |
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Karen Reynolds
Thanks. Took care of notifications and no change. Must be Office.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 8:42 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Message pops up after opening Microsoft program
Hey karen. You say you mostly use edge? TO turn off notifications in edge: Go to settings, cookies and site permissions, notifications. There might be an option to turn off for all websites (I haven’t really used edge so I’m not sure, but I have google chrome and firefox set to not give these)…otehrwise, you’ll see a list of websites that are currently allowed, and you can block any or all of them. To go to your browser extensions, I believe what you want is to hit the address bar with alt-d (or however you normally get to the address bar), then tab until you hear “browser extensions” or something similar. If you go to “manage extensions” you’ll see everything that’s installed on your browser. It’s possible that something there is causing the alerts. I’m only theorising. They could be coming from something that’s not a web browser, but that seems the most likely possibility. Also, the message you say is coming up doesn’t seem grammatically correct, which is not something I’ve ever seen in a Windows native component.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Hi, How do I turn this off?
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Hey karen. I would start by turning off notifications from browsers, and checking your browser extensions, to see what extensions are running. If you don’t recognise something, remove it, or post about it here and someone can tell you if it’s something you actually want or not. It sounds like you have something unwanted running. Not necessarily malicious, but certainly obstructive.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Hi, Since the latest Windows 11 update last week, I’ve been getting this message that Jaws speaks about a minute or so after the program is opened. So far it happens in Outlook, often while reading a message. It also happens in Edge while reading an article or other page, even listening to a video. Always about a minute or so into it, and earlier today it caused Jaws to stop reading an article. It stated the below message and just stopped. I had to restart it reading again.
Alert!
Any ideas what this is? It is quite annoying.
Karen
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JM Casey
Hey. Yeah, I was starting to think that wasn’t it. It could be an office thing I suppose. I have office 2016 myself and there is a popup that comes up pretty much immediately after I run one of the programmes. I just press escape to get rid of it, but it’s complaining about office not being “genuine”, whatever the hell that means (I bought it from a non-microsoft source,a dmittedly, but seems fair and square to me)…
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Sent: March 25, 2023 9:58 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Message pops up after opening Microsoft program
Thanks. Took care of notifications and no change. Must be Office.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Hey karen. You say you mostly use edge? TO turn off notifications in edge: Go to settings, cookies and site permissions, notifications. There might be an option to turn off for all websites (I haven’t really used edge so I’m not sure, but I have google chrome and firefox set to not give these)…otehrwise, you’ll see a list of websites that are currently allowed, and you can block any or all of them. To go to your browser extensions, I believe what you want is to hit the address bar with alt-d (or however you normally get to the address bar), then tab until you hear “browser extensions” or something similar. If you go to “manage extensions” you’ll see everything that’s installed on your browser. It’s possible that something there is causing the alerts. I’m only theorising. They could be coming from something that’s not a web browser, but that seems the most likely possibility. Also, the message you say is coming up doesn’t seem grammatically correct, which is not something I’ve ever seen in a Windows native component.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Hi, How do I turn this off?
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Hey karen. I would start by turning off notifications from browsers, and checking your browser extensions, to see what extensions are running. If you don’t recognise something, remove it, or post about it here and someone can tell you if it’s something you actually want or not. It sounds like you have something unwanted running. Not necessarily malicious, but certainly obstructive.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Hi, Since the latest Windows 11 update last week, I’ve been getting this message that Jaws speaks about a minute or so after the program is opened. So far it happens in Outlook, often while reading a message. It also happens in Edge while reading an article or other page, even listening to a video. Always about a minute or so into it, and earlier today it caused Jaws to stop reading an article. It stated the below message and just stopped. I had to restart it reading again.
Alert!
Any ideas what this is? It is quite annoying.
Karen
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Karen Reynolds
I did figure your error message out. You need to log into your Microsoft account and have it accepted there. Otherwise they don’t know about it.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2023 10:10 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Message pops up after opening Microsoft program
Hey. Yeah, I was starting to think that wasn’t it. It could be an office thing I suppose. I have office 2016 myself and there is a popup that comes up pretty much immediately after I run one of the programmes. I just press escape to get rid of it, but it’s complaining about office not being “genuine”, whatever the hell that means (I bought it from a non-microsoft source,a dmittedly, but seems fair and square to me)…
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Thanks. Took care of notifications and no change. Must be Office.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Hey karen. You say you mostly use edge? TO turn off notifications in edge: Go to settings, cookies and site permissions, notifications. There might be an option to turn off for all websites (I haven’t really used edge so I’m not sure, but I have google chrome and firefox set to not give these)…otehrwise, you’ll see a list of websites that are currently allowed, and you can block any or all of them. To go to your browser extensions, I believe what you want is to hit the address bar with alt-d (or however you normally get to the address bar), then tab until you hear “browser extensions” or something similar. If you go to “manage extensions” you’ll see everything that’s installed on your browser. It’s possible that something there is causing the alerts. I’m only theorising. They could be coming from something that’s not a web browser, but that seems the most likely possibility. Also, the message you say is coming up doesn’t seem grammatically correct, which is not something I’ve ever seen in a Windows native component.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Hi, How do I turn this off?
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Hey karen. I would start by turning off notifications from browsers, and checking your browser extensions, to see what extensions are running. If you don’t recognise something, remove it, or post about it here and someone can tell you if it’s something you actually want or not. It sounds like you have something unwanted running. Not necessarily malicious, but certainly obstructive.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Hi, Since the latest Windows 11 update last week, I’ve been getting this message that Jaws speaks about a minute or so after the program is opened. So far it happens in Outlook, often while reading a message. It also happens in Edge while reading an article or other page, even listening to a video. Always about a minute or so into it, and earlier today it caused Jaws to stop reading an article. It stated the below message and just stopped. I had to restart it reading again.
Alert!
Any ideas what this is? It is quite annoying.
Karen
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Cohn, Jonathan
If this is a notification, then JAWS notification center should at least let you know what program is producing the alert.
Press insert-space followed by N and review what shows up there. This should be a list of all notifications in the last 24 hours or since reboot. I know when you go to edit a rule for one of these it will tell you the program that created it, but I think it does in the listing as well. |
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JM Casey
Hah, well, I sure don’t have a microsoft account. Every year I want one less and less. The more they try to force the issue I guess the more I push back.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Sent: March 26, 2023 11:36 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Message pops up after opening Microsoft program
I did figure your error message out. You need to log into your Microsoft account and have it accepted there. Otherwise they don’t know about it.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Hey. Yeah, I was starting to think that wasn’t it. It could be an office thing I suppose. I have office 2016 myself and there is a popup that comes up pretty much immediately after I run one of the programmes. I just press escape to get rid of it, but it’s complaining about office not being “genuine”, whatever the hell that means (I bought it from a non-microsoft source,a dmittedly, but seems fair and square to me)…
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Thanks. Took care of notifications and no change. Must be Office.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Hey karen. You say you mostly use edge? TO turn off notifications in edge: Go to settings, cookies and site permissions, notifications. There might be an option to turn off for all websites (I haven’t really used edge so I’m not sure, but I have google chrome and firefox set to not give these)…otehrwise, you’ll see a list of websites that are currently allowed, and you can block any or all of them. To go to your browser extensions, I believe what you want is to hit the address bar with alt-d (or however you normally get to the address bar), then tab until you hear “browser extensions” or something similar. If you go to “manage extensions” you’ll see everything that’s installed on your browser. It’s possible that something there is causing the alerts. I’m only theorising. They could be coming from something that’s not a web browser, but that seems the most likely possibility. Also, the message you say is coming up doesn’t seem grammatically correct, which is not something I’ve ever seen in a Windows native component.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Hi, How do I turn this off?
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Hey karen. I would start by turning off notifications from browsers, and checking your browser extensions, to see what extensions are running. If you don’t recognise something, remove it, or post about it here and someone can tell you if it’s something you actually want or not. It sounds like you have something unwanted running. Not necessarily malicious, but certainly obstructive.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Hi, Since the latest Windows 11 update last week, I’ve been getting this message that Jaws speaks about a minute or so after the program is opened. So far it happens in Outlook, often while reading a message. It also happens in Edge while reading an article or other page, even listening to a video. Always about a minute or so into it, and earlier today it caused Jaws to stop reading an article. It stated the below message and just stopped. I had to restart it reading again.
Alert!
Any ideas what this is? It is quite annoying.
Karen
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Karen Reynolds
The newer computers force you to create one. Having one does help keep track of your software.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2023 4:15 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Message pops up after opening Microsoft program
Hah, well, I sure don’t have a microsoft account. Every year I want one less and less. The more they try to force the issue I guess the more I push back.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
I did figure your error message out. You need to log into your Microsoft account and have it accepted there. Otherwise they don’t know about it.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Hey. Yeah, I was starting to think that wasn’t it. It could be an office thing I suppose. I have office 2016 myself and there is a popup that comes up pretty much immediately after I run one of the programmes. I just press escape to get rid of it, but it’s complaining about office not being “genuine”, whatever the hell that means (I bought it from a non-microsoft source,a dmittedly, but seems fair and square to me)…
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Thanks. Took care of notifications and no change. Must be Office.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Hey karen. You say you mostly use edge? TO turn off notifications in edge: Go to settings, cookies and site permissions, notifications. There might be an option to turn off for all websites (I haven’t really used edge so I’m not sure, but I have google chrome and firefox set to not give these)…otehrwise, you’ll see a list of websites that are currently allowed, and you can block any or all of them. To go to your browser extensions, I believe what you want is to hit the address bar with alt-d (or however you normally get to the address bar), then tab until you hear “browser extensions” or something similar. If you go to “manage extensions” you’ll see everything that’s installed on your browser. It’s possible that something there is causing the alerts. I’m only theorising. They could be coming from something that’s not a web browser, but that seems the most likely possibility. Also, the message you say is coming up doesn’t seem grammatically correct, which is not something I’ve ever seen in a Windows native component.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Hi, How do I turn this off?
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Hey karen. I would start by turning off notifications from browsers, and checking your browser extensions, to see what extensions are running. If you don’t recognise something, remove it, or post about it here and someone can tell you if it’s something you actually want or not. It sounds like you have something unwanted running. Not necessarily malicious, but certainly obstructive.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Hi, Since the latest Windows 11 update last week, I’ve been getting this message that Jaws speaks about a minute or so after the program is opened. So far it happens in Outlook, often while reading a message. It also happens in Edge while reading an article or other page, even listening to a video. Always about a minute or so into it, and earlier today it caused Jaws to stop reading an article. It stated the below message and just stopped. I had to restart it reading again.
Alert!
Any ideas what this is? It is quite annoying.
Karen
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JM Casey
Hey. Well, it’s not the computers that do it. It’s windows, upon installation. The pro version of windows does not require this, and there is a way around the requirement in the Home edition, which I will probably use when I get around to a new system and Windows 11. I can keep track of my own software. Don’t need to be nannied by microsoft, or have them know when I’m logged in, or push advertisements at me, or encrypt my drive without my knowledge, or any of these other so-called features.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Sent: March 26, 2023 6:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Message pops up after opening Microsoft program
The newer computers force you to create one. Having one does help keep track of your software.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Hah, well, I sure don’t have a microsoft account. Every year I want one less and less. The more they try to force the issue I guess the more I push back.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
I did figure your error message out. You need to log into your Microsoft account and have it accepted there. Otherwise they don’t know about it.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Hey. Yeah, I was starting to think that wasn’t it. It could be an office thing I suppose. I have office 2016 myself and there is a popup that comes up pretty much immediately after I run one of the programmes. I just press escape to get rid of it, but it’s complaining about office not being “genuine”, whatever the hell that means (I bought it from a non-microsoft source,a dmittedly, but seems fair and square to me)…
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Thanks. Took care of notifications and no change. Must be Office.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Hey karen. You say you mostly use edge? TO turn off notifications in edge: Go to settings, cookies and site permissions, notifications. There might be an option to turn off for all websites (I haven’t really used edge so I’m not sure, but I have google chrome and firefox set to not give these)…otehrwise, you’ll see a list of websites that are currently allowed, and you can block any or all of them. To go to your browser extensions, I believe what you want is to hit the address bar with alt-d (or however you normally get to the address bar), then tab until you hear “browser extensions” or something similar. If you go to “manage extensions” you’ll see everything that’s installed on your browser. It’s possible that something there is causing the alerts. I’m only theorising. They could be coming from something that’s not a web browser, but that seems the most likely possibility. Also, the message you say is coming up doesn’t seem grammatically correct, which is not something I’ve ever seen in a Windows native component.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Hi, How do I turn this off?
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Hey karen. I would start by turning off notifications from browsers, and checking your browser extensions, to see what extensions are running. If you don’t recognise something, remove it, or post about it here and someone can tell you if it’s something you actually want or not. It sounds like you have something unwanted running. Not necessarily malicious, but certainly obstructive.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Hi, Since the latest Windows 11 update last week, I’ve been getting this message that Jaws speaks about a minute or so after the program is opened. So far it happens in Outlook, often while reading a message. It also happens in Edge while reading an article or other page, even listening to a video. Always about a minute or so into it, and earlier today it caused Jaws to stop reading an article. It stated the below message and just stopped. I had to restart it reading again.
Alert!
Any ideas what this is? It is quite annoying.
Karen
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On Sun, Mar 26, 2023 at 06:05 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Well, it’s not the computers that do it. It’s windows, upon installation.- A distinction without difference given the context under discussion is new computers that come with Windows 11. Personally, I just don't see why the Microsoft Account causes so much consternation among so many. You have to have an Apple ID in the Mac and iOS worlds, Google Account in order to use Android as designed or a Chromebook, and others. Microsoft was very late, indeed, to this arena and with things like M365, OneDrive, and all sorts of cloud-connected services that users want under Windows you have to have a Microsoft Account to link all those services together (not unlike Google for Gmail, Google Drive, Docs, Voice, Contacts, etc., etc., etc.) I personally hate, hate, hate device encryption where it's not needed, and I have it turned off on all of my Windows machines. You can turn it off when you first set up a Windows machine, too, and should do so ASAP so the work needed by the computer itself, and the corresponding time, is minimized. But for those who don't do this and/or don't know about Device Encryption or BitLocker, having that Microsoft Account is a godsend because the encryption key is associated with the Microsoft Account linked to the Windows 10 account you set up during out of the box experience. Now that we are firmly into the age of cloud computing, the idea that an account to link all those services together will not be required by default needs to die a quick death. Resistance really is futile (and, in my opinion, counterproductive). -- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13) I recoil from any definition of the relationship between artist and audience that is predicated on the audience claiming a sense of betrayal over who someone is or isn’t outside of the context in which they’re performing. What we know about an artist’s personal identity can be interesting and even illuminating; what we are entitled to know is … nothing, basically. ~ Mark Harris, Is Celebrity ‘Queer Baiting’ Really Such a Crime?, T: The New York Times Style Magazine, Feb. 6, 2023 |
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In that last message I should have said Windows 10 or Windows 11 user account that you are linking to a Microsoft Account during out of the box experience. Just the storage of the device encryption (Home) or BitLocker (Pro and above) key is worth it's weight in gold simply because most people don't turn it off, and if they hear it's on believe it's a "must have" much like it was trendy to believe you "must have" a VPN (and that is now waning, since most of us gain very little to nothing via VPN for the kinds of things we do on a daily basis, and they slow things down).
When it comes to computer security in general, and device encryption (and just drive encryption, too) in particular, I think the following quotation sums it up for a very great many of us for most of what we keep on our computers: In the computer security field, we often say that one doesn't need Fort Knox to safeguard a broken bicycle. ~ Glenn Glazer, M.S. ’07 UCLA Security & Cryptography, April 25, 2019, in Message on Groups.io Beta Group --Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13) I recoil from any definition of the relationship between artist and audience that is predicated on the audience claiming a sense of betrayal over who someone is or isn’t outside of the context in which they’re performing. What we know about an artist’s personal identity can be interesting and even illuminating; what we are entitled to know is … nothing, basically. ~ Mark Harris, Is Celebrity ‘Queer Baiting’ Really Such a Crime?, T: The New York Times Style Magazine, Feb. 6, 2023 |
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JM Casey
Hey Brian.
I think of this as a personal matter. I don’t use anything Apple, and I try to limit Google’s access to things in the Android world where I can, though I do feel I am more google-connected than I would perhaps like to be at times. A whole lot of users don’t want a Microsoft account and I believe shouldn’t be forced into having one. You may think it’s harmless and beneficial, and that’s the right of everyone. There do seem to be some benefits, but many things that have benefits are not wholly 100% bennevolent, either, and so we have to make a choice whether to make use of them or not. The same goes for cloud storage. I use remote storage for collaborative projects, where it really does benefit this kind of work, and that’s it. As has often been repeated in all sorts of coners: there is no cloud, it’s just someone else’s computer. Now you probably think I’m just another one of the crazy ones. Haha
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: March 26, 2023 6:54 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Message pops up after opening Microsoft program
On Sun, Mar 26, 2023 at 06:05 PM, JM Casey wrote:
- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13) I recoil from any definition of the relationship between artist and audience that is predicated on the audience claiming a sense of betrayal over who someone is or isn’t outside of the context in which they’re performing. What we know about an artist’s personal identity can be interesting and even illuminating; what we are entitled to know is … nothing, basically. ~ Mark Harris, Is Celebrity ‘Queer Baiting’ Really Such a Crime?, T: The New York Times Style Magazine, Feb. 6, 2023 |
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