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Moderated Managing the cognitive load of listening
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Soronel Haetir
Not sure about font but this could be achieved through markup, I
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simply doubt you are going to get many writers/publishers interested. Also, different fonts would be maddening to the sighted so is very likely a non-starter. On 9/20/22, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:
I always have wished story writers would use something to denote a male --
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Mike Pietruk
Glenn
While you might wish that, when my sighted wife responded to my question about this, she thought I was off my rocker <grin>!! So, asking JAWS to deal with this in the way you suggest (which is a good idea) is beyond the practical technology at this moment at least. |
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K0LNY
Well what made me think of this, was some years back, a local news station
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switched back and forth between a guy and gal reading the news, and I noticed how it really kept my attention. Glenn ----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Pietruk" <pietruk@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 12:01 PM Subject: Re: Managing the cognitive load of listening Glenn While you might wish that, when my sighted wife responded to my question about this, she thought I was off my rocker <grin>!! So, asking JAWS to deal with this in the way you suggest (which is a good idea) is beyond the practical technology at this moment at least. |
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K0LNY
Actually, there is some president for this anyway,
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In many fiction audio books I have read, the male reader will often alter their voice to sound like the other gender, or sometimes a child. Glenn ----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Pietruk" <pietruk@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 12:01 PM Subject: Re: Managing the cognitive load of listening Glenn While you might wish that, when my sighted wife responded to my question about this, she thought I was off my rocker <grin>!! So, asking JAWS to deal with this in the way you suggest (which is a good idea) is beyond the practical technology at this moment at least. |
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Mike Pietruk
Glenn
I see where you are coming from; but another problem also occurs to me. In today's politically correct world where gender identity issues rear its head, some authors and publishers rather not deal with the fallout such labeling might bring upon them. |
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Mike Pietruk
True, and I've heard this done quite effectively and I like it.
However, in context of your question, this is a decision by the reader of the book and not based by author/publisher coding things. It is only time that some audio book narrator somewhere will be taken to task for their interpretation of things. |
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K0LNY
I guess if any publishers are concerned about that, it has never been
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enforced in the world of audio books. Glenn ----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Pietruk" <pietruk@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 12:40 PM Subject: Re: Managing the cognitive load of listening Glenn I see where you are coming from; but another problem also occurs to me. In today's politically correct world where gender identity issues rear its head, some authors and publishers rather not deal with the fallout such labeling might bring upon them. |
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K0LNY
I doubt that anyone would call out a reader on this in my opinion, I mean, a
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woman naturally has a higher pitch voice, and all though that isn't always the case, it almost always is. So for that reason, I doubt a reader of a book would have to stop doing that. Glenn ----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Pietruk" <pietruk@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 12:43 PM Subject: Re: Managing the cognitive load of listening True, and I've heard this done quite effectively and I like it. However, in context of your question, this is a decision by the reader of the book and not based by author/publisher coding things. It is only time that some audio book narrator somewhere will be taken to task for their interpretation of things. |
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K0LNY
Actually, I think back to when I read print.
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And a slightly different font for the genders would not have been distracting. But as mentioned already, it probably wouldn't be a font change, but some sort of markup that only would be there in electronic text. Glenn ----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 12:43 PM Subject: Re: Managing the cognitive load of listening I guess if any publishers are concerned about that, it has never been enforced in the world of audio books. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Pietruk" <pietruk@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 12:40 PM Subject: Re: Managing the cognitive load of listening Glenn I see where you are coming from; but another problem also occurs to me. In today's politically correct world where gender identity issues rear its head, some authors and publishers rather not deal with the fallout such labeling might bring upon them. |
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Lori Lynn
I've read several books recently that used multiple readers. Although this isn't always practical, it is interesting.
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Lori Lynn -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 12:22 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Managing the cognitive load of listening Well what made me think of this, was some years back, a local news station switched back and forth between a guy and gal reading the news, and I noticed how it really kept my attention. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Pietruk" <pietruk@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 12:01 PM Subject: Re: Managing the cognitive load of listening Glenn While you might wish that, when my sighted wife responded to my question about this, she thought I was off my rocker <grin>!! So, asking JAWS to deal with this in the way you suggest (which is a good idea) is beyond the practical technology at this moment at least. |
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Mike Pietruk
Glenn
Sadly, we're living in an age where the "never" is no longer a "never" for so many things. I'm thankful that I'm retired and don't have to be in a work environment where you walk on eggshells in how you react and deal with people. Real human interaction is often impossible as, in return, others are careful in what they say and do with you. If someone really didn't like me, I'd rather I knew that as it makes responding far simpler. So, I'll bet that book narrators these days are given guidelines on many things no one, a generation or 2 back, would have thought of. |
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K0LNY
That is what I like about not working for the government anymore, where
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political correctness had to constantly be observed. Now if someone doesn't like what I say, well, it's just too bad, I won't have to worry about getting a poor yearly review over it. Glenn ----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Pietruk" <pietruk@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 2:14 PM Subject: Re: Managing the cognitive load of listening Glenn Sadly, we're living in an age where the "never" is no longer a "never" for so many things. I'm thankful that I'm retired and don't have to be in a work environment where you walk on eggshells in how you react and deal with people. Real human interaction is often impossible as, in return, others are careful in what they say and do with you. If someone really didn't like me, I'd rather I knew that as it makes responding far simpler. So, I'll bet that book narrators these days are given guidelines on many things no one, a generation or 2 back, would have thought of. |
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Mike Pietruk
Glenn
This goes back 45-50 years ago, before political correction became a mantra of the era. When I complained to my dad as to how certain people dealt with me, his answer was a blunt honest one: "it's better to know how someone feels about you rather them hiding it." And, I grew to understand his point that if you have someone's true feelings, you can better respond. Like your comments, I suspect that a lot of the younger generation will not agree with me. |
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