Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
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Maria Campbell
Gerald, what you do is not the only way to do things, and you should not keep on criticizing what others do that work for them. Stop being such an ass. Please and thank you.
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Maria Campbell lucky1inct@gmail.com All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
On 1/8/2020 12:07 PM, Gerald Levy via Groups.Io wrote:
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Cristóbal
Even better when it's with an actual "college" degree...
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Cristóbal
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 10:37 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10 That is ok, I love being called stupid with a collage degree...lol -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: January 8, 2020 10:09 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10 But you cannot toggle NVDA or JAWS on or off at will with a keystroke in Windows 10 like you can with Narrator, which is a great convenience. And Narrator comes up immediately with the Control-Windows key-Enter command. There is no delay like there is with NVDA or JAWS. And it can be closed with this same keystroke,unlike JAWS and NVDA, which require multiple keystrokes to close. And there are times when when neither JAWS nor NVDA will speak due to some technical glitch, but because Narrator is built into the operating system, it will almost always work. So setting it so that it can be used to only announce log on and log off is not a good idea, in my humble opinion. Sorry if I came on too strongly in my previous message. Gerald On 1/8/2020 12:23 PM, Marty Hutchings wrote: Really Gerald. Can we lay off of the attacks please. It was a
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JM Casey
Sure; even going back as far as Windows 98 sometimes you would hear a shutdown sound but the PC still would not shut down. The sound is just one thing in a series of tasks executed when one performs a shutdown. And it's never going to be one of the last tasks executed, because shutting down background programmes like the stuff that makes your sound device work is also part of the sequence. So a shutdown sound guarantees ... not much, really, just that the specific operation designated "play shutdown sound" has executed.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: January 8, 2020 11:17 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10 And even in Windows 7 I had situations where the shut-down sound played and then one of my sighted employees or my wife said the computer had not powered down because of some message which Jaws didn't read any more. But adding it to Windows 10 as an elevated task as I described in my other email does work well and it's better than nothing. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:38 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10 Unfortunately, there is no shutdown sound in Windows 10. Hacking the registry to produce logoff or shutdown sounds is a bad idea, no matter what the other "experts" on this list may tell you to the contrary. The bottom line is that hacking the registry can often produce unwanted or unpredictable results. If you want to be sure that your computer has completely powered off after you initiate a shutdown, I suggest purchasing a small USB-powered cooling fan and connecting it to a front or rear panel USB port. When the computer powers off, the fan will stop spinning. Simple as that. Gerald On 1/8/2020 1:40 AM, Shankar C wrote: Hi bill, hope things are well at you.
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And why can Jaws not be started with a single keystroke under Windows 10? If you set up a keyboard shortcut like Control + Shift + J it works just fine and both in Jaws 2019 and 2020 Jaws Key + F4 shuts Jaws down immediately if you tell it in Settings not to prompt you to exit Jaws.
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The one true statement is that Narrator starts faster, but if you know Jaws takes a few seconds it's not a big deal. Lastly, George's suggestion did not suggest that you can't still start Narrator with Control + Windows + Enter, the way I understand it is simply that he recommends instead of telling Jaws to speak at the logon screen to set up Narrator to do this, but then to configure Narrator not to run automatically after the desktop loads but to let Jaws take over again.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 1:03 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10 Sure; even going back as far as Windows 98 sometimes you would hear a shutdown sound but the PC still would not shut down. The sound is just one thing in a series of tasks executed when one performs a shutdown. And it's never going to be one of the last tasks executed, because shutting down background programmes like the stuff that makes your sound device work is also part of the sequence. So a shutdown sound guarantees ... not much, really, just that the specific operation designated "play shutdown sound" has executed. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: January 8, 2020 11:17 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10 And even in Windows 7 I had situations where the shut-down sound played and then one of my sighted employees or my wife said the computer had not powered down because of some message which Jaws didn't read any more. But adding it to Windows 10 as an elevated task as I described in my other email does work well and it's better than nothing. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:38 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10 Unfortunately, there is no shutdown sound in Windows 10. Hacking the registry to produce logoff or shutdown sounds is a bad idea, no matter what the other "experts" on this list may tell you to the contrary. The bottom line is that hacking the registry can often produce unwanted or unpredictable results. If you want to be sure that your computer has completely powered off after you initiate a shutdown, I suggest purchasing a small USB-powered cooling fan and connecting it to a front or rear panel USB port. When the computer powers off, the fan will stop spinning. Simple as that. Gerald On 1/8/2020 1:40 AM, Shankar C wrote: Hi bill, hope things are well at you.
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Angel
Since I first got Jaws in 98, Jaws 2.0, There has been within the program, the ability to set up in Jaws properties, to set up a short cut key. One can set up an alternative screen reader, to get one on the desk top. As was said in the post below. Then, turn it off. Once Jaws begins working. That way, should Jaws not work, for some reason. One can get it up and working once more. Using the alternative screen reader. Which is why, I don’t agree with the idea the alternate screen reader ought be set up to close. Once the desk top shows itself.
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From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 11:06 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
And why can Jaws not be started with a single keystroke under Windows 10? If you set up a keyboard shortcut like Control + Shift + J it works just fine and both in Jaws 2019 and 2020 Jaws Key + F4 shuts Jaws down immediately if you tell it in Settings not to prompt you to exit Jaws. The one true statement is that Narrator starts faster, but if you know Jaws takes a few seconds it's not a big deal. Lastly, George's suggestion did not suggest that you can't still start Narrator with Control + Windows + Enter, the way I understand it is simply that he recommends instead of telling Jaws to speak at the logon screen to set up Narrator to do this, but then to configure Narrator not to run automatically after the desktop loads but to let Jaws take over again.
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 1:03 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Sure; even going back as far as Windows 98 sometimes you would hear a shutdown sound but the PC still would not shut down. The sound is just one thing in a series of tasks executed when one performs a shutdown. And it's never going to be one of the last tasks executed, because shutting down background programmes like the stuff that makes your sound device work is also part of the sequence. So a shutdown sound guarantees ... not much, really, just that the specific operation designated "play shutdown sound" has executed.
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: January 8, 2020 11:17 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
And even in Windows 7 I had situations where the shut-down sound played and then one of my sighted employees or my wife said the computer had not powered down because of some message which Jaws didn't read any more. But adding it to Windows 10 as an elevated task as I described in my other email does work well and it's better than nothing.
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:38 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Unfortunately, there is no shutdown sound in Windows 10. Hacking the registry to produce logoff or shutdown sounds is a bad idea, no matter what the other "experts" on this list may tell you to the contrary. The bottom line is that hacking the registry can often produce unwanted or unpredictable results. If you want to be sure that your computer has completely powered off after you initiate a shutdown, I suggest purchasing a small USB-powered cooling fan and connecting it to a front or rear panel USB port. When the computer powers off, the fan will stop spinning. Simple as that.
Gerald
On 1/8/2020 1:40 AM, Shankar C wrote: > Hi bill, hope things are well at you. > I am using windows 10 1903 with jaws 2020 on my dell laptop. > I have downloaded the Shutdown-Logoff-Logon-Sound-Hacks folder and > extracted, and added them in the windows Registry. > and on the sound events, I also checked the check box which says play sounds. > now, I can able to eare only logon sounds. > I am unable to eare the sounds for other events such as logoff, > shutdown, and restart. > > I kindly request you to help me on this. > > > > > > > On 8/3/18, Robert Wright <wrightsiphone@...> wrote: >> I was able to get windows log on and off to show in the registry but >> exit is still not showing. >> >> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for >> you! *** >> >> From: Tom >> Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 3:26 AM >> To: main@jfw.groups.io >> Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10 >> >> Thanks Bill. >> >> Tom >> >> >> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of >> Bill White >> Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 3:59 PM >> To: main@jfw.groups.io >> Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10 >> >> Yes, it works. >> >> “System Exit” is the event associated with shutdown. >> >> “Windows logoff” is associated with signing off to log on as a >> different user. >> >> Bill White >> billwhite92701@... >> >> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom >> Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:01 PM >> To: main@jfw.groups.io >> Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10 >> >> Hi Bill, >> I downloaded the file containing the scripts you mentioned and unzipped it. >> The unzip procedure creates three folders each containing 2 files. >> >> What is the difference between “System Exit” and Windows logoff”? >> >> Have you tried this technique and did it work? >> >> Thanks >> Tom >> >> >> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of >> Bill White >> Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 7:19 AM >> To: JFW Mailing List <jfw@groups.io> >> Subject: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10 >> >> Hi. I tried to send this message to the JAWS list before, but it >> hasn't shown up in the last 27 minutes, so I am sending it again, in >> hopes that it will get through this time. >> >> In case someone cannot find this page on Ehow, I am including the >> link below that will download the zip file containing the registry >> edit scripts that will return the logon, logoff and system exit >> events back to the Sound settings without having to manually edit the registry. >> >> https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Shutdown-Logoff- >> Logon-Sound-Hacks.zip >> >> Bill White >> billwhite92701@... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
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