Moderated Locking the mouse buttons:


Gene Warner
 

Totally agree! After I lost my vision, I signed up for a JAWS class at the local Lighthouse for the blind, the instructor was sighted and his method of instruction was to ask, "What do you want to learn?" I never went back to that class and learned JAWS on my own, it was hard without help and took me about a year before I felt even the slightest bit comfortable with it.

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On 8/7/2022 1:56 PM, Angel wrote:
I am using Jaws 18, conjoined with windows 10.  In view of this:  Where is the screen shade-Curtin, and how does one employ it.  Eric Damery, employed by Freedom Scientific,  uses Jaws and the keyboard exclusively, and is fully sighted.  I read, once, he did so, because his dear father was totally blind, and had familiarized him with blindness alternative technics.  When I was learning the Braille code over 65 years ago:  Our fully sighted teachers read Braille exclusively using their fingers. They learned the code in order to instruct blinded world war II veterans.  The thery, then, was, to best instruct us blind, and physically challenged  users of a particular skill one ought to be proficient in the use of that skill using the same technics used by those using the skills every day.  In 98, when I got my first computer, my instructor was totally blind.  I don’t know whether I would trust a sight dependent person to teach me anything, truly.  Because I would doubt he had the confidence in his own ability to properly instruct and to empathize with me, were he forced to depend on his sight to teach a skill I would be using independent of the  sense of sight.
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If one is not using a laptop, the monitor can always be turned off too.
When I took typing in high school, the teacher made everyone tape a sheet of typing paper over the keyboard and we had to type with our hands under the paper.
My plumber is a volunteer fireman and he told me that he had to train getting out of buildings with a blindfold on.
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From: Angel
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2022 12:56 PM
Subject: Locking the mouse buttons:

I am using Jaws 18, conjoined with windows 10.  In view of this:  Where is the screen shade-Curtin, and how does one employ it.  Eric Damery, employed by Freedom Scientific,  uses Jaws and the keyboard exclusively, and is fully sighted.  I read, once, he did so, because his dear father was totally blind, and had familiarized him with blindness alternative technics.  When I was learning the Braille code over 65 years ago:  Our fully sighted teachers read Braille exclusively using their fingers.  They learned the code in order to instruct blinded world war II veterans.  The thery, then, was, to best instruct us blind, and physically challenged  users of a particular skill one ought to be proficient in the use of that skill using the same technics used by those using the skills every day.  In 98, when I got my first computer, my instructor was totally blind.  I don’t know whether I would trust a sight dependent person to teach me anything, truly.  Because I would doubt he had the confidence in his own ability to properly instruct and to empathize with me, were he forced to depend on his sight to teach a skill I would be using independent of the  sense of sight.

 

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I am using Jaws 18, conjoined with windows 10.  In view of this:  Where is the screen shade-Curtin, and how does one employ it.  Eric Damery, employed by Freedom Scientific,  uses Jaws and the keyboard exclusively, and is fully sighted.  I read, once, he did so, because his dear father was totally blind, and had familiarized him with blindness alternative technics.  When I was learning the Braille code over 65 years ago:  Our fully sighted teachers read Braille exclusively using their fingers.  They learned the code in order to instruct blinded world war II veterans.  The thery, then, was, to best instruct us blind, and physically challenged  users of a particular skill one ought to be proficient in the use of that skill using the same technics used by those using the skills every day.  In 98, when I got my first computer, my instructor was totally blind.  I don’t know whether I would trust a sight dependent person to teach me anything, truly.  Because I would doubt he had the confidence in his own ability to properly instruct and to empathize with me, were he forced to depend on his sight to teach a skill I would be using independent of the  sense of sight.

 

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Emulated mouse button locking works (or is supposed to) just like using the real keys - it stays on only until the "drop" part of the command is completed or when something else is done that causes a locked mouse to release.

David Diamond is correct that the easiest thing to do is to turn on the screen shade/curtain, as even the most screen-reader educated sighted person generally does not even try to use a screen reader without vision being present.  "Flying blind" is just not generally something we can do, because we just don't have to do it in day to day life in general.
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David Diamond
 

why not just enable screen shade. This way they won't be able to see the screen. A lot easier than locking the mouse keys. I would think. That and you could suggest that maybe they broke your computer.


Angel
 

I was wondering if both mouse buttons are locked whether sighted people would not be able to use the computer.  Unless they were familiar with the use of the keyboard.  I would think if the mouse buttons were locked, this would make it impossible to use the mouse successfully, while Jaws was turned on.  I should think this technic would be easier than turning off the mouse via the control panel.   

 

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