moderated Keyboard is acting very odd in browser


Phillip Gross
 

This accurs in Firefox, crome, and Edge. It's happening in multiple screen readers with the common keys,, but I'm not sure where else to go with this question. If I press H to go to the next heading, it will do that. The next time I press H, it thinks it is a J and trys to jump to line. After that comes placemarker, ETC. I'm not having this problem if I go back to the address field to put in a differentURL. Does anyone have any suggestions?


Mike Pietruk
 

Phillip

I've seen the same weird kb behavior in Chrome, Edge and Firefox but not
in Brave.
It occurs with any screen reader and with at least 3 versions of JAWS:
2021, 2022 and the new 2023 so it's not a screen reader issue.
I've come across numerous suggestions as how to fix it but the best 2 I
can offer is not using any of those browsers or, if you have an old
back-up of your hd, switch to that with the hope that this
corruption won't reappear.
Most likely, directly or indirectly, the chromium platform probablyy plays
a role in this.

About the only consolation I can offer you is that it's likely not caused
by anything you have done and that you aren't alone in experiencing this.

Keeping fingers crossed that the Brave browser continues to work normally.


Phillip Gross
 

I used a restore point from a week ago, and that seemed to work for now.


Kimber Gardner
 

On Jonathan Mosen's podcast he was talking about a scenario that
sounds very similar to what you describe. I believe his issue was
related to a new virus protection software he had begun using
recently. I don't recall the name of the virus software that caused
the problem, but once it was deactivated the problem cleared up.

In case you aren't familiar with Jonathan's podcast it is called Mosen
at large and this topic was covered in the most recent show. I believe
it is #205.

I hope this helps.

Kim

On 11/4/22, Phillip Gross <phillip_gross@...> wrote:
This accurs in Firefox, crome, and Edge. It's happening in multiple screen
readers with the common keys,, but I'm not sure where else to go with this
question. If I press H to go to the next heading, it will do that. The next
time I press H, it thinks it is a J and trys to jump to line. After that
comes placemarker, ETC. I'm not having this problem if I go back to the
address field to put in a differentURL. Does anyone have any suggestions?





--
Kimberly


Jim Weiss <jimweiss72@...>
 

I apologize for not following the entire thread, but I have had a similar problem.
Windows 10 and 11 with JAWS 2021, 2022 and 2023.
When ever I tried to type in the URL of any browser JAWS would announce some random character.  For example if I type the letter “g” JAWS might say “y” but if I type the letter “g” again JAWS might now say “1”.  The culprit was my Anti-Virus (Sophos).  They have a key logger component that was interfering with JAWS being able to read the correct character back to me.
There were two solutions.  Disable the key logger component in Sophos or change what JAWS reads to me.  I had JAWS reading characters and words as I typed.  I opted to have JAWS just read words to me and leave the key logger component enabled.  I am a proficient typer so not having the characters read aloud as I typed was actually welcomed.
As long as I typed the URL correctly the page would come up, what I was typing was being inserted into the URL, only JAWS was being affected.
All of the components of my Sophos AV are enabled and I have no issues using my browsers.

Jim Weiss
jimweiss72@...

“Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of high intention, sincere effort, intelligent direction and skillful execution; it represents the wise choice of many alternatives.” - William A. Foster




On Nov 6, 2022, at 2:32 PM, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@...> wrote:

On Jonathan Mosen's podcast he was talking about a scenario that
sounds very similar to what you describe. I believe his issue was
related to a new virus protection software he had begun using
recently. I don't recall the name of the virus software that caused
the problem, but once it was deactivated the problem cleared up.

In case you aren't familiar with Jonathan's podcast it is called Mosen
at large and this topic was covered in the most recent show. I believe
it is #205.

I hope this helps.

Kim

On 11/4/22, Phillip Gross <phillip_gross@...> wrote:
This accurs in Firefox, crome, and Edge. It's happening in multiple screen
readers with the common keys,, but I'm not sure where else to go with this
question. If I press H to go to the next heading, it will do that. The next
time I press H, it thinks it is a J and trys to jump to line. After that
comes placemarker, ETC. I'm not having this problem if I go back to the
address field to put in a differentURL. Does anyone have any suggestions?








--
Kimberly







Mike Pietruk
 

Kim

One of the problems with this truly strange keyboard non-typing correctly
is that the potential solutions are numerous but guessing which one is the
magic wand is a hit and miss process.
Yet another is that the ctfmon.exe program under
c:\sindows\system32
isn't running and needs to be restarted and that it should always be
automatically started upon boot up.
Well, that was not my magic wand among other alternatives.


Apparently, all resolve the situation in certain circumstances but there
isn't one universal answer that works universally.
Apparently, something within the chromium platform blocks the keyboard
from working normally which appears triggered by some outside event.
Phillip solution, a restore point that worked, is the best answer so far.
That ought to work for everyone assuming they have a restore point that
brings things back to normal and can be kept that way.

The more pr this gets, the more likely we will ultimately see the
situation resolve itself.


Mike Pietruk
 

in my case, any screen reader has the same results.
If I am able to paste something created outside of the browser, such as in
a text editor, it works fine.
Pardon my ignorance, what is sophos; and, assuming I have it on the effect
pc, how do I go about disabling the key logger to test if this resolves
things.
BTW, my Brave browser continues to function perfectly.


Curtis Chong
 

Mike:

The operative question at this point is "What antivirus software are you
running on your system?" Does this software have its key logger function
turned on. For others, the key logger function seems to be the crux of the
issue. In my case, I am running Eset Internet Security, and while I thought
the key logger function would be great, I ultimately gave up on it because
of the exact problem you have described.

Kind regards,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2022 1:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keyboard is acting very odd in browser

in my case, any screen reader has the same results.
If I am able to paste something created outside of the browser, such as in
a text editor, it works fine.
Pardon my ignorance, what is sophos; and, assuming I have it on the effect
pc, how do I go about disabling the key logger to test if this resolves
things.
BTW, my Brave browser continues to function perfectly.


Kimber Gardner
 

Curtis,

I believe that was the name of the antivirus program that Jonathan was referring to.

Kim .

Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books can be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen

On Nov 6, 2022, at 3:22 PM, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:

Mike:

The operative question at this point is "What antivirus software are you
running on your system?" Does this software have its key logger function
turned on. For others, the key logger function seems to be the crux of the
issue. In my case, I am running Eset Internet Security, and while I thought
the key logger function would be great, I ultimately gave up on it because
of the exact problem you have described.

Kind regards,

Curtis Chong


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2022 1:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keyboard is acting very odd in browser

in my case, any screen reader has the same results.
If I am able to paste something created outside of the browser, such as in
a text editor, it works fine.
Pardon my ignorance, what is sophos; and, assuming I have it on the effect
pc, how do I go about disabling the key logger to test if this resolves
things.
BTW, my Brave browser continues to function perfectly.













Mike Pietruk
 

Curtis

Ok. thanks. I'm an Eset Smart Security user.
So where does one typically look for the key logger setting.
Sounds like a likely culprit, at least at this point.

On Sun, 6 Nov 2022, Curtis Chong wrote:

Mike:

The operative question at this point is "What antivirus software are you
running on your system?" Does this software have its key logger function
turned on. For others, the key logger function seems to be the crux of the
issue. In my case, I am running Eset Internet Security, and while I thought
the key logger function would be great, I ultimately gave up on it because
of the exact problem you have described.

Kind regards,

Curtis Chong


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2022 1:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keyboard is acting very odd in browser

in my case, any screen reader has the same results.
If I am able to paste something created outside of the browser, such as in
a text editor, it works fine.
Pardon my ignorance, what is sophos; and, assuming I have it on the effect
pc, how do I go about disabling the key logger to test if this resolves
things.
BTW, my Brave browser continues to function perfectly.














Mark Arnold ABG
 

I'm late to this thread but it appears to be an issue that Jonathan Mosen
talked about in this weeks podcast. His podcast is Mosen at Large.

Hope this may be of some assistance,
Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk
Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2022 4:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keyboard is acting very odd in browser

Curtis

Ok. thanks. I'm an Eset Smart Security user.
So where does one typically look for the key logger setting.
Sounds like a likely culprit, at least at this point.


On Sun, 6 Nov 2022, Curtis Chong wrote:

Mike:

The operative question at this point is "What antivirus software are
you running on your system?" Does this software have its key logger
function turned on. For others, the key logger function seems to be
the crux of the issue. In my case, I am running Eset Internet
Security, and while I thought the key logger function would be great,
I ultimately gave up on it because of the exact problem you have
described.

Kind regards,

Curtis Chong


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike
Pietruk
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2022 1:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keyboard is acting very odd in browser

in my case, any screen reader has the same results.
If I am able to paste something created outside of the browser, such
as in a text editor, it works fine.
Pardon my ignorance, what is sophos; and, assuming I have it on the
effect pc, how do I go about disabling the key logger to test if this
resolves things.
BTW, my Brave browser continues to function perfectly.














E.M. Kirtley
 

The name of the antivirus software name was Esset.

Ms. Kirtley

 

 

From: Kimber Gardner
Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2022 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keyboard is acting very odd in browser

 

On Jonathan Mosen's podcast he was talking about a scenario that

sounds very similar to what you describe. I believe his issue was

related to a new virus protection software he had begun using

recently. I don't recall the name of the virus software that caused

the problem, but once it was deactivated the problem cleared up.

 

In case you aren't familiar with Jonathan's podcast it is called Mosen

at large and this topic was covered in the most recent show. I believe

it is #205.

 

I hope this helps.

 

Kim

 

On 11/4/22, Phillip Gross <phillip_gross@...> wrote:

> This accurs in Firefox, crome, and Edge. It's happening in multiple screen

> readers with the common keys,, but I'm not sure where else to go with this

> question. If I press H to go to the next heading, it will do that. The next

> time I press H, it thinks it is a J and trys to jump to line. After that

> comes placemarker, ETC. I'm not having this problem if I go back to the

> address field to put in a differentURL. Does anyone have any suggestions?

>

 

 

--

Kimberly

 

 

 

 

 


Mike Pietruk
 

Thanks for the correction; I am an Eset Smart Security for as long as I
can remember and have had no issues of consequence to this point.
Assuming that this indeed is the cause, is there a work around or a fix.
Presumably, Eset is aware of the issue, I would hope, and come up with a
fix.

On Sun, 6 Nov 2022, E.M. Kirtley wrote:


The name of the antivirus software name was Esset.

Ms. Kirtley

 

 

From: Kimber Gardner
Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2022 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keyboard is acting very odd in browser

 

On Jonathan Mosen's podcast he was talking about a scenario that

sounds very similar to what you describe. I believe his issue was

related to a new virus protection software he had begun using

recently. I don't recall the name of the virus software that caused

the problem, but once it was deactivated the problem cleared up.

 

In case you aren't familiar with Jonathan's podcast it is called Mosen

at large and this topic was covered in the most recent show. I believe

it is #205.

 

I hope this helps.

 

Kim

 

On 11/4/22, Phillip Gross <phillip_gross@...> wrote:

This accurs in Firefox, crome, and Edge. It's happening in multiple screen
readers with the common keys,, but I'm not sure where else to go with this
question. If I press H to go to the next heading, it will do that. The
next

time I press H, it thinks it is a J and trys to jump to line. After that
comes placemarker, ETC. I'm not having this problem if I go back to the
address field to put in a differentURL. Does anyone have any suggestions?
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

--

Kimberly

 

 

 

 

 




Nermin
 

Hi,


it is not on ESET or any other company to come up with a fix, since from their point of view, the function does what it's supposed to do, and screen readers just happen to be legid applications that are affected.

Screen reader vendors and anti-virus companies should find a solution together somehow, but not sure that's going to happen anytime soon.


The anti-virus thinks that JAWS -- or any other screen reader for that matter -- is logging key presses, which it does to an extent.

Key logging is used maliciously to intercept credit card data, passwords, or any other form of login credentials by viruses, banking trojans, and so on.

That key logger protection tries to help the user by denying the apps in question the logging of key presses, including JAWS, NVDA, and whatever somehow hooks into keyboard functions to process them.


The solution would be to disable that function for the time being, or somehow try to find a way to create exception rules for your screen readers.

Since I am not using Sophos, ESET or other software, I would not know where in settings to look for that option.

Maybe you can call Microsoft disability to assist you here, since that's a very bad implementation.

Kaspersky Antivirus was one of the companies who also used that sort of protection, and I think they managed to make exceptions for screen readers at some point.


Regards,

Nermin


Curtis Chong
 

Simple solution. Turn off the key logger. That is what I did

Curtis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2022 3:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keyboard is acting very odd in browser

Thanks for the correction; I am an Eset Smart Security for as long as I
can remember and have had no issues of consequence to this point.
Assuming that this indeed is the cause, is there a work around or a fix.
Presumably, Eset is aware of the issue, I would hope, and come up with a
fix.


On Sun, 6 Nov 2022, E.M. Kirtley wrote:


The name of the antivirus software name was Esset.

Ms. Kirtley





From: Kimber Gardner
Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2022 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keyboard is acting very odd in browser



On Jonathan Mosen's podcast he was talking about a scenario that

sounds very similar to what you describe. I believe his issue was

related to a new virus protection software he had begun using

recently. I don't recall the name of the virus software that caused

the problem, but once it was deactivated the problem cleared up.



In case you aren't familiar with Jonathan's podcast it is called Mosen

at large and this topic was covered in the most recent show. I believe

it is #205.



I hope this helps.



Kim



On 11/4/22, Phillip Gross <phillip_gross@...> wrote:

This accurs in Firefox, crome, and Edge. It's happening in multiple screen
readers with the common keys,, but I'm not sure where else to go with this
question. If I press H to go to the next heading, it will do that. The
next

time I press H, it thinks it is a J and trys to jump to line. After that
comes placemarker, ETC. I'm not having this problem if I go back to the
address field to put in a differentURL. Does anyone have any suggestions?




--

Kimberly














Curtis Chong
 

Mike:

Just explore all of the settings. You will find it. If not, you may have to
contact Eset by telephone. They still do that<smile>.

Curtis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2022 2:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keyboard is acting very odd in browser

Curtis

Ok. thanks. I'm an Eset Smart Security user.
So where does one typically look for the key logger setting.
Sounds like a likely culprit, at least at this point.


On Sun, 6 Nov 2022, Curtis Chong wrote:

Mike:

The operative question at this point is "What antivirus software are you
running on your system?" Does this software have its key logger function
turned on. For others, the key logger function seems to be the crux of the
issue. In my case, I am running Eset Internet Security, and while I
thought
the key logger function would be great, I ultimately gave up on it because
of the exact problem you have described.

Kind regards,

Curtis Chong


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2022 1:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keyboard is acting very odd in browser

in my case, any screen reader has the same results.
If I am able to paste something created outside of the browser, such as in
a text editor, it works fine.
Pardon my ignorance, what is sophos; and, assuming I have it on the effect
pc, how do I go about disabling the key logger to test if this resolves
things.
BTW, my Brave browser continues to function perfectly.














Bill White
 

Hi, Curtis. Actually, they don't. Eset only supports business licenses by
phone now. That's why I stopped using Eset two years ago, and went solely
with the antivirus provided by Microsoft in Windows 10.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis
Chong
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2022 7:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keyboard is acting very odd in browser

Mike:

Just explore all of the settings. You will find it. If not, you may have to
contact Eset by telephone. They still do that<smile>.

Curtis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2022 2:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keyboard is acting very odd in browser

Curtis

Ok. thanks. I'm an Eset Smart Security user.
So where does one typically look for the key logger setting.
Sounds like a likely culprit, at least at this point.


On Sun, 6 Nov 2022, Curtis Chong wrote:

Mike:

The operative question at this point is "What antivirus software are you
running on your system?" Does this software have its key logger function
turned on. For others, the key logger function seems to be the crux of the
issue. In my case, I am running Eset Internet Security, and while I
thought
the key logger function would be great, I ultimately gave up on it because
of the exact problem you have described.

Kind regards,

Curtis Chong


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2022 1:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keyboard is acting very odd in browser

in my case, any screen reader has the same results.
If I am able to paste something created outside of the browser, such as in
a text editor, it works fine.
Pardon my ignorance, what is sophos; and, assuming I have it on the effect
pc, how do I go about disabling the key logger to test if this resolves
things.
BTW, my Brave browser continues to function perfectly.














K0LNY
 

I know malicious key logging can happen anywhere, but isn't it really only
likely to occur when we log into a public network?
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Chong" <chong.curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2022 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: Keyboard is acting very odd in browser


Mike:

Just explore all of the settings. You will find it. If not, you may have to
contact Eset by telephone. They still do that<smile>.

Curtis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2022 2:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keyboard is acting very odd in browser

Curtis

Ok. thanks. I'm an Eset Smart Security user.
So where does one typically look for the key logger setting.
Sounds like a likely culprit, at least at this point.


On Sun, 6 Nov 2022, Curtis Chong wrote:

Mike:

The operative question at this point is "What antivirus software are you
running on your system?" Does this software have its key logger function
turned on. For others, the key logger function seems to be the crux of the
issue. In my case, I am running Eset Internet Security, and while I
thought
the key logger function would be great, I ultimately gave up on it because
of the exact problem you have described.

Kind regards,

Curtis Chong


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2022 1:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keyboard is acting very odd in browser

in my case, any screen reader has the same results.
If I am able to paste something created outside of the browser, such as in
a text editor, it works fine.
Pardon my ignorance, what is sophos; and, assuming I have it on the effect
pc, how do I go about disabling the key logger to test if this resolves
things.
BTW, my Brave browser continues to function perfectly.














Curtis Chong
 

Hi Bill:

Most unfortunate and disappointing. I'm sure the procedure to turn off key
logger can be found in Google somewhere. This usually works for me.

Cordially,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2022 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keyboard is acting very odd in browser

Hi, Curtis. Actually, they don't. Eset only supports business licenses by
phone now. That's why I stopped using Eset two years ago, and went solely
with the antivirus provided by Microsoft in Windows 10.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis
Chong
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2022 7:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keyboard is acting very odd in browser

Mike:

Just explore all of the settings. You will find it. If not, you may have to
contact Eset by telephone. They still do that<smile>.

Curtis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2022 2:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keyboard is acting very odd in browser

Curtis

Ok. thanks. I'm an Eset Smart Security user.
So where does one typically look for the key logger setting.
Sounds like a likely culprit, at least at this point.


On Sun, 6 Nov 2022, Curtis Chong wrote:

Mike:

The operative question at this point is "What antivirus software are you
running on your system?" Does this software have its key logger function
turned on. For others, the key logger function seems to be the crux of the
issue. In my case, I am running Eset Internet Security, and while I
thought
the key logger function would be great, I ultimately gave up on it because
of the exact problem you have described.

Kind regards,

Curtis Chong


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2022 1:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keyboard is acting very odd in browser

in my case, any screen reader has the same results.
If I am able to paste something created outside of the browser, such as in
a text editor, it works fine.
Pardon my ignorance, what is sophos; and, assuming I have it on the effect
pc, how do I go about disabling the key logger to test if this resolves
things.
BTW, my Brave browser continues to function perfectly.














Curtis Chong
 

Greetings:

I believe that the setting is under banking and payment protection if one is
using the Eset security software. I initially had this turned on and turned
it off rather quickly after I discovered what was happening.

Kindly,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2022 9:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keyboard is acting very odd in browser

I know malicious key logging can happen anywhere, but isn't it really only
likely to occur when we log into a public network?
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Chong" <chong.curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2022 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: Keyboard is acting very odd in browser


Mike:

Just explore all of the settings. You will find it. If not, you may have to
contact Eset by telephone. They still do that<smile>.

Curtis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2022 2:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keyboard is acting very odd in browser

Curtis

Ok. thanks. I'm an Eset Smart Security user.
So where does one typically look for the key logger setting.
Sounds like a likely culprit, at least at this point.


On Sun, 6 Nov 2022, Curtis Chong wrote:

Mike:

The operative question at this point is "What antivirus software are you
running on your system?" Does this software have its key logger function
turned on. For others, the key logger function seems to be the crux of the
issue. In my case, I am running Eset Internet Security, and while I
thought
the key logger function would be great, I ultimately gave up on it because
of the exact problem you have described.

Kind regards,

Curtis Chong


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2022 1:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Keyboard is acting very odd in browser

in my case, any screen reader has the same results.
If I am able to paste something created outside of the browser, such as in
a text editor, it works fine.
Pardon my ignorance, what is sophos; and, assuming I have it on the effect
pc, how do I go about disabling the key logger to test if this resolves
things.
BTW, my Brave browser continues to function perfectly.