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Alan Robbins <arobbins1057@...>
Hello,
Not sure on this. I did read on a list or web somewhere that Apple was considering discontinuing iTunes in the future? Can anyone validate this? If true they would need to fix the iPhone somehow to allow items to be put on and taken off.
Alan
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Cornelius
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 8:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
Yes, but just want to know that JFW has no plan to improve its usability with iTune just like how they did with other app?
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
That's why one has a choice, just as with browsers there might be times when NVDA works better for a particular task than Jaws and vice versa.
Also it seems that NVDA navigates more smoothly in iTunes if compared with JAWS. I tried backing up my iPhone using JAWS on iTunes and it is not as smooth tabbing around the menu compared to if
using NVDA.
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
Well, it is now. I tried it with nvda, and the menus no longer come up with just alt.
CH
On 10/16/2021 07:52, Cornelius wrote:
Hi Chris, that doesn’t seem to be the problem in a few versions back. We can press alt and use the left/right arrow to find the desire menu.
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
Hello.
That isn't jaws problem to fix. Alt does not bring up the menu in itunes. If you want the menu, hold alt and press one of the first letter options like f. You can then arrow down through the file menu, or arrow over to whatever menu you want.
CH
On 10/16/2021 05:23, Cornelius wrote:
Any JFW users have the problem of JAWS not announcing the menu in iTune? For example if you press alt key and then the left or right arrow, JAWS will not say file or accounts etc.
I notice this has been happening for quite sometime and there seems to be no fix for it in the 2021 update of JAWS.
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Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
Don’t believe everything you read on the internet.
Apple changed iTunes on the Mac into I think three different apps or some such thing, but I paid little attention as I do not have a Mac.
That led to all kinds of rumors about Apple getting rid of iTunes. Nothing close to that has come from Apple.
Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner
My Web site:
https://www.turner42.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Alan Robbins
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTunes
Hello,
Not sure on this. I did read on a list or web somewhere that Apple was considering discontinuing iTunes in the future? Can anyone validate this? If true they would need to fix the iPhone somehow to allow items to be put on and taken off.
Alan
Yes, but just want to know that JFW has no plan to improve its usability with iTune just like how they did with other app?
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
That's why one has a choice, just as with browsers there might be times when NVDA works better for a particular task than Jaws and vice versa.
Also it seems that NVDA navigates more smoothly in iTunes if compared with JAWS. I tried backing up my iPhone using JAWS on iTunes and it is not as smooth tabbing around the menu compared to if
using NVDA.
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
Well, it is now. I tried it with nvda, and the menus no longer come up with just alt.
CH
On 10/16/2021 07:52, Cornelius wrote:
Hi Chris, that doesn’t seem to be the problem in a few versions back. We can press alt and use the left/right arrow to find the desire menu.
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
Hello.
That isn't jaws problem to fix. Alt does not bring up the menu in itunes. If you want the menu, hold alt and press one of the first letter options like f. You can then arrow down through the file menu, or arrow over to whatever menu you want.
CH
On 10/16/2021 05:23, Cornelius wrote:
Any JFW users have the problem of JAWS not announcing the menu in iTune? For example if you press alt key and then the left or right arrow, JAWS will not say file or accounts etc.
I notice this has been happening for quite sometime and there seems to be no fix for it in the 2021 update of JAWS.
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Jim Weiss <jimweiss72@...>
iTunes on the Mac has been gone for one or two years now. The iDevicce interacts with Finder and shows up like a external drive. You can completely manage apps on the device without the need for iTunes and if you use either One Drive or DropBox you can access music files and pull them into the Music app. I have no idea if Apple plans on pulling iTunes all together, but I can’t imagine that they are going to continue to pour money into an application that solely runs on Windows. What tasks do you directly need iTunes for today? Regards,
Hello, Not sure on this. I did read on a list or web somewhere that Apple was considering discontinuing iTunes in the future? Can anyone validate this? If true they would need to fix the iPhone somehow to allow items to be put on and taken off. Alan Yes, but just want to know that JFW has no plan to improve its usability with iTune just like how they did with other app? Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:28 AM Subject: Re: JFW and iTune That's why one has a choice, just as with browsers there might be times when NVDA works better for a particular task than Jaws and vice versa. Also it seems that NVDA navigates more smoothly in iTunes if compared with JAWS. I tried backing up my iPhone using JAWS on iTunes and it is not as smooth tabbing around the menu compared to if using NVDA. Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 9:21 PM Subject: Re: JFW and iTune Well, it is now. I tried it with nvda, and the menus no longer come up with just alt.
CH On 10/16/2021 07:52, Cornelius wrote: Hi Chris, that doesn’t seem to be the problem in a few versions back. We can press alt and use the left/right arrow to find the desire menu. Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 8:20 PM Subject: Re: JFW and iTune Hello.
That isn't jaws problem to fix. Alt does not bring up the menu in itunes. If you want the menu, hold alt and press one of the first letter options like f. You can then arrow down through the file menu, or arrow over to whatever menu you want.
CH On 10/16/2021 05:23, Cornelius wrote: Any JFW users have the problem of JAWS not announcing the menu in iTune? For example if you press alt key and then the left or right arrow, JAWS will not say file or accounts etc. I notice this has been happening for quite sometime and there seems to be no fix for it in the 2021 update of JAWS.
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Jim Weiss <jimweiss72@...>
iTunes on the Mac is no more. There is now a Music app, TV app and Podcast app. They work with or without a iPhone or iPad and you certainly don’t need to use any of those apps and can still manage your iPhone. The only time I plug my iPhone into my Mac is if I need to DFU the phone and the average user would most likely take it to an Apple store if the phone was really so bad off that you needed to perform a DFU.
Don’t believe everything you read on the internet. Apple changed iTunes on the Mac into I think three different apps or some such thing, but I paid little attention as I do not have a Mac. That led to all kinds of rumors about Apple getting rid of iTunes. Nothing close to that has come from Apple.
Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site:
https://www.turner42.com
Hello, Not sure on this. I did read on a list or web somewhere that Apple was considering discontinuing iTunes in the future? Can anyone validate this? If true they would need to fix the iPhone somehow to allow items to be put on and taken off. Alan
Yes, but just want to know that JFW has no plan to improve its usability with iTune just like how they did with other app?
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
That's why one has a choice, just as with browsers there might be times when NVDA works better for a particular task than Jaws and vice versa.
Also it seems that NVDA navigates more smoothly in iTunes if compared with JAWS. I tried backing up my iPhone using JAWS on iTunes and it is not as smooth tabbing around the menu compared to if
using NVDA.
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
Well, it is now. I tried it with nvda, and the menus no longer come up with just alt.
CH
On 10/16/2021 07:52, Cornelius wrote:
Hi Chris, that doesn’t seem to be the problem in a few versions back. We can press alt and use the left/right arrow to find the desire menu.
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
Hello.
That isn't jaws problem to fix. Alt does not bring up the menu in itunes. If you want the menu, hold alt and press one of the first letter options like f. You can then arrow down through the file menu, or arrow over to whatever menu you want.
CH
On 10/16/2021 05:23, Cornelius wrote:
Any JFW users have the problem of JAWS not announcing the menu in iTune? For example if you press alt key and then the left or right arrow, JAWS will not say file or accounts etc.
I notice this has been happening for quite sometime and there seems to be no fix for it in the 2021 update of JAWS.
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Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
Again, speculating about what Apple will and will not do is not productive.
When Apple announces they are no longer making iTunes for Windows, then we will deal with it at that time.
Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner
My Web site:
https://www.turner42.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Jim Weiss via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTunes
iTunes on the Mac has been gone for one or two years now. The iDevicce interacts with Finder and shows up like a external drive.
You can completely manage apps on the device without the need for iTunes and if you use either One Drive or DropBox you can access music files and pull them into the Music app.
I have no idea if Apple plans on pulling iTunes all together, but I can’t imagine that they are going to continue to pour money into an application that solely runs on Windows.
What tasks do you directly need iTunes for today?
Not sure on this. I did read on a list or web somewhere that Apple was considering discontinuing iTunes in the future? Can anyone validate this? If true they would need to fix the iPhone somehow to allow items to be put on and taken off.
Yes, but just want to know that JFW has no plan to improve its usability with iTune just like how they did with other app?
Sent: Monday,
October 18, 2021 7:28 AM
Subject: Re:
JFW and iTune
That's why one has a choice, just as with browsers there might be times when NVDA works better for a particular task than Jaws and vice versa.
Also it seems that NVDA navigates more smoothly in iTunes if compared with JAWS. I tried backing up my iPhone using JAWS on iTunes and it is not as smooth tabbing around the menu compared to if using NVDA.
Sent: Saturday,
October 16, 2021 9:21 PM
Subject: Re:
JFW and iTune
Well, it is now. I tried it with nvda, and the menus no longer come up with just alt.
CH
On 10/16/2021 07:52, Cornelius wrote:
Hi Chris, that doesn’t seem to be the problem in a few versions back. We can press alt and use the left/right arrow to find the desire menu.
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
Hello.
That isn't jaws problem to fix. Alt does not bring up the menu in itunes. If you want the menu, hold alt and press one of the first letter options like f. You can then arrow down through the file menu, or arrow over to whatever menu you want.
CH
On 10/16/2021 05:23, Cornelius wrote:
Any JFW users have the problem of JAWS not announcing the menu in iTune? For example if you press alt key and then the left or right arrow, JAWS will not say file or accounts etc.
I notice this has been happening for quite sometime and there seems to be no fix for it in the 2021 update of JAWS.
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I do not know that you could sync music directly to the music app using
dropbox or OneDrive. On Dropbox though you have to play the music on the
Dropbox app. Even if you can sync to the music app, you will need ways to delete
them if the music is no longer required.
There are still certain tasks like backing up the entire phone which cannot
be done without iTune unless one is willing to pay for iCloud storage.
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From: Jim Weiss via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 10:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTunes
iTunes
on the Mac has been gone for one or two years now. The iDevicce interacts
with Finder and shows up like a external drive.
You can completely manage apps on the device without the need for iTunes
and if you use either One Drive or DropBox you can access music files and pull
them into the Music app.
I have no idea if Apple plans on pulling iTunes all together, but I can’t
imagine that they are going to continue to pour money into an application that
solely runs on Windows.
What tasks do you directly need iTunes for today?
Regards,
On Oct 18, 2021, at 10:32 AM, Alan Robbins
<arobbins1057@...> wrote:
Hello,
Not
sure on this. I did read on a list or web somewhere that Apple was considering
discontinuing iTunes in the future? Can anyone validate this? If true they
would need to fix the iPhone somehow to allow items to be put on and taken
off.
Alan
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cornelius
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 8:03
AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and
iTune
Yes, but just want to know that JFW has no plan to
improve its usability with iTune just like how they did with other
app?
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:28
AM
Subject: Re: JFW and
iTune
That's
why one has a choice, just as with browsers there might be times when NVDA
works better for a particular task than Jaws and vice
versa.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>On
Behalf Of Cornelius
Sent: October 16, 2021 7:36
PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and
iTune
Also it seems that NVDA navigates more smoothly in
iTunes if compared with JAWS. I tried backing up my iPhone using JAWS on
iTunes and it is not as smooth tabbing around the menu compared to if using
NVDA.
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 9:21
PM
Subject: Re: JFW and
iTune
Well, it is now. I tried it with nvda, and the
menus no longer come up with just alt.
CH
On 10/16/2021 07:52, Cornelius
wrote:
Hi Chris, that doesn’t seem to be the problem in a
few versions back. We can press alt and use the left/right arrow to find the
desire menu.
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 8:20
PM
Subject: Re:
JFW and iTune
Hello.
That isn't jaws problem to
fix. Alt does not bring up the menu in itunes. If you want the
menu, hold alt and press one of the first letter options like f. You
can then arrow down through the file menu, or arrow over to whatever menu
you want.
CH
On 10/16/2021 05:23, Cornelius
wrote:
Any JFW users have the problem of JAWS not
announcing the menu in iTune? For example if you press alt key and then
the left or right arrow, JAWS will not say file or accounts
etc.
I notice this has been happening for quite
sometime and there seems to be no fix for it in the 2021 update of
JAWS.
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’I also know that, at least, for me, JAWS doesn't even say anything when tabbing around. I have iTunes open right now, and I'm sitting on my table of music. The only thing I hear when making my first press of the tab key, all JAWS says is iTunes. I don't hear
anything else until I get to the volume settings. I also hear the airplay button when tabbing but nothing else until the edit box which is one tab down I think from the airplay. In other words, JAWS isn't as smooth with iTunes than it used to ;. However,
it was never great with it!
On Oct 18, 2021, at 9:32 AM, Alan Robbins <arobbins1057@...> wrote:
Hello,
Not sure on this. I did read on a list or web somewhere that Apple was considering discontinuing iTunes in the future? Can anyone validate this? If true they would need to fix the iPhone somehow to allow items to be put on and taken off.
Alan
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Cornelius
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 8:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
Yes, but just want to know that JFW has no plan to improve its usability with iTune just like how they did with other app?
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
That's why one has a choice, just as with browsers there might be times when NVDA works better for a particular task than Jaws and vice versa.
Also it seems that NVDA navigates more smoothly in iTunes if compared with JAWS. I tried backing up my iPhone using JAWS on iTunes and it is not as smooth tabbing around the menu compared to if
using NVDA.
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
Well, it is now. I tried it with nvda, and the menus no longer come up with just alt.
CH
On 10/16/2021 07:52, Cornelius wrote:
Hi Chris, that doesn’t seem to be the problem in a few versions back. We can press alt and use the left/right arrow to find the desire menu.
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
Hello.
That isn't jaws problem to fix. Alt does not bring up the menu in itunes. If you want the menu, hold alt and press one of the first letter options like f. You can then arrow down through the file menu, or arrow over to whatever menu you want.
CH
On 10/16/2021 05:23, Cornelius wrote:
Any JFW users have the problem of JAWS not announcing the menu in iTune? For example if you press alt key and then the left or right arrow, JAWS will not say file or accounts etc.
I notice this has been happening for quite sometime and there seems to be no fix for it in the 2021 update of JAWS.
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Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
IN the somewhat distant past I gather, there were third party scripts for iTunes and Jaws.
BlindTunes and jTunes, but they seem to be no more. At least, the links referenced from the Freedom Scientific page about them are not valid.
So, trying NVDA or Narrator is the best next option when dealing with the craziness of itunes.
Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner
My Web site:
https://www.turner42.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2021 9:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTunes
’I also know that, at least, for me, JAWS doesn't even say anything when tabbing around. I have iTunes open right now, and I'm sitting on my table of music. The only thing I hear when making my first press of the tab key, all JAWS says
is iTunes. I don't hear anything else until I get to the volume settings. I also hear the airplay button when tabbing but nothing else until the edit box which is one tab down I think from the airplay. In other words, JAWS isn't as smooth with iTunes than
it used to ;. However, it was never great with it!
Hello,
Not sure on this. I did read on a list or web somewhere that Apple was considering discontinuing iTunes in the future? Can anyone validate this? If true they would need to fix the iPhone somehow to allow items to be put on and taken off.
Alan
Yes, but just want to know that JFW has no plan to improve its usability with iTune just like how they did with other app?
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
That's why one has a choice, just as with browsers there might be times when NVDA works better for a particular task than Jaws and vice versa.
Also it seems that NVDA navigates more smoothly in iTunes if compared with JAWS. I tried backing up my iPhone using JAWS on iTunes and it is not as smooth tabbing around the menu compared to if
using NVDA.
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
Well, it is now. I tried it with nvda, and the menus no longer come up with just alt.
CH
On 10/16/2021 07:52, Cornelius wrote:
Hi Chris, that doesn’t seem to be the problem in a few versions back. We can press alt and use the left/right arrow to find the desire menu.
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
Hello.
That isn't jaws problem to fix. Alt does not bring up the menu in itunes. If you want the menu, hold alt and press one of the first letter options like f. You can then arrow down through the file menu, or arrow over to whatever menu you want.
CH
On 10/16/2021 05:23, Cornelius wrote:
Any JFW users have the problem of JAWS not announcing the menu in iTune? For example if you press alt key and then the left or right arrow, JAWS will not say file or accounts etc.
I notice this has been happening for quite sometime and there seems to be no fix for it in the 2021 update of JAWS.
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Glad to know I’m not alone. NVDA works better with iTunes and I really hope
that JAWS could improve somedays.
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From: Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2021 12:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTunes
’I
also know that, at least, for me, JAWS doesn't even say anything when
tabbing around. I have iTunes open right now, and I'm sitting on my table of
music. The only thing I hear when making my first press of the tab key, all JAWS
says is iTunes. I don't hear anything else until I get to the volume settings. I
also hear the airplay button when tabbing but nothing else until the edit
box which is one tab down I think from the airplay. In other words, JAWS
isn't as smooth with iTunes than it used to ;. However, it was never great with
it!
On Oct 18, 2021, at 9:32 AM, Alan Robbins
<arobbins1057@...> wrote:
Hello,
Not sure on this. I did read on a list or web somewhere
that Apple was considering discontinuing iTunes in the future? Can anyone
validate this? If true they would need to fix the iPhone somehow to allow
items to be put on and taken off.
Alan
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Cornelius
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 8:03
AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and
iTune
Yes, but just
want to know that JFW has no plan to improve its usability with iTune just
like how they did with other app?
Sent:
Monday, October 18, 2021 7:28 AM
Subject: Re:
JFW and iTune
That's why one has a choice,
just as with browsers there might be times when NVDA works better for a
particular task than Jaws and vice versa.
From: main@jfw.groups.io
<main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Cornelius
Sent: October 16, 2021 7:36 PM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and
iTune
Also it seems
that NVDA navigates more smoothly in iTunes if compared with JAWS. I tried
backing up my iPhone using JAWS on iTunes and it is not as smooth tabbing
around the menu compared to if using NVDA.
Sent:
Saturday, October 16, 2021 9:21 PM
Subject: Re:
JFW and iTune
Well, it is now. I tried it with
nvda, and the menus no longer come up with just alt.
CH
On 10/16/2021
07:52, Cornelius wrote:
Hi Chris,
that doesn’t seem to be the problem in a few versions back. We can press alt
and use the left/right arrow to find the desire
menu.
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 8:20
PM
Subject: Re: JFW and
iTune
Hello.
That isn't jaws
problem to fix. Alt does not bring up the menu in itunes. If you
want the menu, hold alt and press one of the first letter options like
f. You can then arrow down through the file menu, or arrow over to
whatever menu you want.
CH
On 10/16/2021
05:23, Cornelius wrote:
Any
JFW users have the problem of JAWS not announcing the menu in iTune? For
example if you press alt key and then the left or right arrow, JAWS will
not say file or accounts etc.
I notice
this has been happening for quite sometime and there seems to be no fix
for it in the 2021 update of JAWS.
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