moderated JFW and iTunes


Alan Robbins <arobbins1057@...>
 

Hello,

 

Not sure on this. I did read on a list or web somewhere that Apple was considering discontinuing iTunes in the future? Can anyone validate this? If true they would need to fix the iPhone somehow to allow items to be put on and taken off.

 

Alan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cornelius
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 8:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune

 

 

Yes, but just want to know that JFW has no plan to improve its usability with iTune just like how they did with other app?

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:28 AM

Subject: Re: JFW and iTune

 

That's why one has a choice, just as with browsers there might be times when NVDA works better for a particular task than Jaws and vice versa.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cornelius
Sent: October 16, 2021 7:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune

 

 

Also it seems that NVDA navigates more smoothly in iTunes if compared with JAWS. I tried backing up my iPhone using JAWS on iTunes and it is not as smooth tabbing around the menu compared to if using NVDA.

 

 

From: Chris Hill

Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 9:21 PM

Subject: Re: JFW and iTune

 

Well, it is now.  I tried it with nvda, and the menus no longer come up with just alt. 

CH

On 10/16/2021 07:52, Cornelius wrote:

 

Hi Chris, that doesn’t seem to be the problem in a few versions back. We can press alt and use the left/right arrow to find the desire menu.

 

 

 

From: Chris Hill

Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 8:20 PM

Subject: Re: JFW and iTune

 

Hello.


That isn't jaws problem to fix.  Alt does not bring up the menu in itunes.  If you want the menu, hold alt and press one of the first letter options like f.  You can then arrow down through the file menu, or arrow over to whatever menu you want.

CH

On 10/16/2021 05:23, Cornelius wrote:

Hi all,

Any  JFW users have the problem of JAWS not announcing the menu in iTune? For example if you press alt key and then the left or right arrow, JAWS will not say file or accounts etc.

I notice this has been happening for quite sometime and there seems to be no fix for it in the 2021 update of JAWS.

 

 

 


Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Don’t believe everything you read on the internet.

 

Apple changed iTunes on the Mac into I think three different apps or some such thing, but I paid little attention as I do not have a Mac.

 

That led to all kinds of rumors about Apple getting rid of iTunes.  Nothing close to that has come from Apple.

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTunes

 

Hello,

 

Not sure on this. I did read on a list or web somewhere that Apple was considering discontinuing iTunes in the future? Can anyone validate this? If true they would need to fix the iPhone somehow to allow items to be put on and taken off.

 

Alan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cornelius
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 8:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune

 

 

Yes, but just want to know that JFW has no plan to improve its usability with iTune just like how they did with other app?

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:28 AM

Subject: Re: JFW and iTune

 

That's why one has a choice, just as with browsers there might be times when NVDA works better for a particular task than Jaws and vice versa.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cornelius
Sent: October 16, 2021 7:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune

 

 

Also it seems that NVDA navigates more smoothly in iTunes if compared with JAWS. I tried backing up my iPhone using JAWS on iTunes and it is not as smooth tabbing around the menu compared to if using NVDA.

 

 

From: Chris Hill

Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 9:21 PM

Subject: Re: JFW and iTune

 

Well, it is now.  I tried it with nvda, and the menus no longer come up with just alt. 

CH

On 10/16/2021 07:52, Cornelius wrote:

 

Hi Chris, that doesn’t seem to be the problem in a few versions back. We can press alt and use the left/right arrow to find the desire menu.

 

 

 

From: Chris Hill

Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 8:20 PM

Subject: Re: JFW and iTune

 

Hello.


That isn't jaws problem to fix.  Alt does not bring up the menu in itunes.  If you want the menu, hold alt and press one of the first letter options like f.  You can then arrow down through the file menu, or arrow over to whatever menu you want.

CH

On 10/16/2021 05:23, Cornelius wrote:

Hi all,

Any  JFW users have the problem of JAWS not announcing the menu in iTune? For example if you press alt key and then the left or right arrow, JAWS will not say file or accounts etc.

I notice this has been happening for quite sometime and there seems to be no fix for it in the 2021 update of JAWS.

 

 

 


Jim Weiss <jimweiss72@...>
 

iTunes on the Mac has been gone for one or two years now.  The iDevicce interacts with Finder and shows up like a external drive.
You can completely manage apps on the device without the need for iTunes and if you use either One Drive or DropBox you can access music files and pull them into the Music app.
I have no idea if Apple plans on pulling iTunes all together, but I can’t imagine that they are going to continue to pour money into an application that solely runs on Windows.
What tasks do you directly need iTunes for today?
Regards,

Jim Weiss



On Oct 18, 2021, at 10:32 AM, Alan Robbins <arobbins1057@...> wrote:

Hello,
 
Not sure on this. I did read on a list or web somewhere that Apple was considering discontinuing iTunes in the future? Can anyone validate this? If true they would need to fix the iPhone somehow to allow items to be put on and taken off.
 
Alan
 
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cornelius
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 8:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
 
 
Yes, but just want to know that JFW has no plan to improve its usability with iTune just like how they did with other app?
 
 
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
 
That's why one has a choice, just as with browsers there might be times when NVDA works better for a particular task than Jaws and vice versa.
 
 
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>On Behalf Of Cornelius
Sent: October 16, 2021 7:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
 
 
Also it seems that NVDA navigates more smoothly in iTunes if compared with JAWS. I tried backing up my iPhone using JAWS on iTunes and it is not as smooth tabbing around the menu compared to if using NVDA.
 
 
From: Chris Hill
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
 

Well, it is now.  I tried it with nvda, and the menus no longer come up with just alt.  

CH

On 10/16/2021 07:52, Cornelius wrote:
 
Hi Chris, that doesn’t seem to be the problem in a few versions back. We can press alt and use the left/right arrow to find the desire menu.
 
 
 
From: Chris Hill
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
 

Hello.


That isn't jaws problem to fix.  Alt does not bring up the menu in itunes.  If you want the menu, hold alt and press one of the first letter options like f.  You can then arrow down through the file menu, or arrow over to whatever menu you want.

CH

On 10/16/2021 05:23, Cornelius wrote:
Hi all,
Any  JFW users have the problem of JAWS not announcing the menu in iTune? For example if you press alt key and then the left or right arrow, JAWS will not say file or accounts etc.
I notice this has been happening for quite sometime and there seems to be no fix for it in the 2021 update of JAWS.
 
 
 



Jim Weiss <jimweiss72@...>
 

iTunes on the Mac is no more.  There is now a Music app, TV app and Podcast app.  They work with or without a iPhone or iPad and you certainly don’t need to use any of those apps and can still manage your iPhone.
The only time I plug my iPhone into my Mac is if I need to DFU the phone and the average user would most likely take it to an Apple store if the phone was really so bad off that you needed to perform a DFU.
Jim Weiss



On Oct 18, 2021, at 10:36 AM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

Don’t believe everything you read on the internet.

 

Apple changed iTunes on the Mac into I think three different apps or some such thing, but I paid little attention as I do not have a Mac.

 

That led to all kinds of rumors about Apple getting rid of iTunes.  Nothing close to that has come from Apple.

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTunes

 

Hello,

 

Not sure on this. I did read on a list or web somewhere that Apple was considering discontinuing iTunes in the future? Can anyone validate this? If true they would need to fix the iPhone somehow to allow items to be put on and taken off.

 

Alan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cornelius
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 8:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune

 

 

Yes, but just want to know that JFW has no plan to improve its usability with iTune just like how they did with other app?

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:28 AM

Subject: Re: JFW and iTune

 

That's why one has a choice, just as with browsers there might be times when NVDA works better for a particular task than Jaws and vice versa.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cornelius
Sent: October 16, 2021 7:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune

 

 

Also it seems that NVDA navigates more smoothly in iTunes if compared with JAWS. I tried backing up my iPhone using JAWS on iTunes and it is not as smooth tabbing around the menu compared to if using NVDA.

 

 

From: Chris Hill

Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 9:21 PM

Subject: Re: JFW and iTune

 

Well, it is now.  I tried it with nvda, and the menus no longer come up with just alt. 

CH

On 10/16/2021 07:52, Cornelius wrote:

 

Hi Chris, that doesn’t seem to be the problem in a few versions back. We can press alt and use the left/right arrow to find the desire menu.

 

 

 

From: Chris Hill

Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 8:20 PM

Subject: Re: JFW and iTune

 

Hello.


That isn't jaws problem to fix.  Alt does not bring up the menu in itunes.  If you want the menu, hold alt and press one of the first letter options like f.  You can then arrow down through the file menu, or arrow over to whatever menu you want.

CH

On 10/16/2021 05:23, Cornelius wrote:

Hi all,

Any  JFW users have the problem of JAWS not announcing the menu in iTune? For example if you press alt key and then the left or right arrow, JAWS will not say file or accounts etc.

I notice this has been happening for quite sometime and there seems to be no fix for it in the 2021 update of JAWS.

 

 

 




Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Again, speculating about what Apple will and will not do is not productive.

 

When Apple announces they are no longer making iTunes for Windows, then we will deal with it at that time.

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Weiss via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTunes

 

iTunes on the Mac has been gone for one or two years now.  The iDevicce interacts with Finder and shows up like a external drive.

You can completely manage apps on the device without the need for iTunes and if you use either One Drive or DropBox you can access music files and pull them into the Music app.

I have no idea if Apple plans on pulling iTunes all together, but I can’t imagine that they are going to continue to pour money into an application that solely runs on Windows.

What tasks do you directly need iTunes for today?

Regards,

 

Jim Weiss

 

 



On Oct 18, 2021, at 10:32 AM, Alan Robbins <arobbins1057@...> wrote:

 

Hello,

 

Not sure on this. I did read on a list or web somewhere that Apple was considering discontinuing iTunes in the future? Can anyone validate this? If true they would need to fix the iPhone somehow to allow items to be put on and taken off.

 

Alan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cornelius
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 8:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune

 

 

Yes, but just want to know that JFW has no plan to improve its usability with iTune just like how they did with other app?

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:28 AM

Subject: Re: JFW and iTune

 

That's why one has a choice, just as with browsers there might be times when NVDA works better for a particular task than Jaws and vice versa.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>On Behalf Of Cornelius
Sent: October 16, 2021 7:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune

 

 

Also it seems that NVDA navigates more smoothly in iTunes if compared with JAWS. I tried backing up my iPhone using JAWS on iTunes and it is not as smooth tabbing around the menu compared to if using NVDA.

 

 

From: Chris Hill

Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 9:21 PM

Subject: Re: JFW and iTune

 

Well, it is now.  I tried it with nvda, and the menus no longer come up with just alt.  

CH

On 10/16/2021 07:52, Cornelius wrote:

 

Hi Chris, that doesn’t seem to be the problem in a few versions back. We can press alt and use the left/right arrow to find the desire menu.

 

 

 

From: Chris Hill

Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 8:20 PM

Subject: Re: JFW and iTune

 

Hello.


That isn't jaws problem to fix.  Alt does not bring up the menu in itunes.  If you want the menu, hold alt and press one of the first letter options like f.  You can then arrow down through the file menu, or arrow over to whatever menu you want.

CH

On 10/16/2021 05:23, Cornelius wrote:

Hi all,

Any  JFW users have the problem of JAWS not announcing the menu in iTune? For example if you press alt key and then the left or right arrow, JAWS will not say file or accounts etc.

I notice this has been happening for quite sometime and there seems to be no fix for it in the 2021 update of JAWS.

 

 

 

 


Cornelius
 

I do not know that you could sync music directly to the music app using dropbox or OneDrive. On Dropbox though you have to play the music  on the Dropbox app. Even if you can sync to the music app, you will need ways to delete them if the music is no longer required.
There are still certain tasks like backing up the entire phone which cannot be done without iTune unless one is willing to pay for iCloud storage.

From: Jim Weiss via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 10:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTunes
 
iTunes on the Mac has been gone for one or two years now.  The iDevicce interacts with Finder and shows up like a external drive.
You can completely manage apps on the device without the need for iTunes and if you use either One Drive or DropBox you can access music files and pull them into the Music app.
I have no idea if Apple plans on pulling iTunes all together, but I can’t imagine that they are going to continue to pour money into an application that solely runs on Windows.
What tasks do you directly need iTunes for today?
Regards,
 
Jim Weiss
jimweiss72@...
 
 

On Oct 18, 2021, at 10:32 AM, Alan Robbins <arobbins1057@...> wrote:
 
Hello,
 
Not sure on this. I did read on a list or web somewhere that Apple was considering discontinuing iTunes in the future? Can anyone validate this? If true they would need to fix the iPhone somehow to allow items to be put on and taken off.
 
Alan
 
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cornelius
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 8:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
 
 
Yes, but just want to know that JFW has no plan to improve its usability with iTune just like how they did with other app?
 
 
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
 
That's why one has a choice, just as with browsers there might be times when NVDA works better for a particular task than Jaws and vice versa.
 
 
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>On Behalf Of Cornelius
Sent: October 16, 2021 7:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
 
 
Also it seems that NVDA navigates more smoothly in iTunes if compared with JAWS. I tried backing up my iPhone using JAWS on iTunes and it is not as smooth tabbing around the menu compared to if using NVDA.
 
 
From: Chris Hill
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 9:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
 

Well, it is now.  I tried it with nvda, and the menus no longer come up with just alt.  

CH

On 10/16/2021 07:52, Cornelius wrote:
 
Hi Chris, that doesn’t seem to be the problem in a few versions back. We can press alt and use the left/right arrow to find the desire menu.
 
 
 
From: Chris Hill
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 8:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
 

Hello.


That isn't jaws problem to fix.  Alt does not bring up the menu in itunes.  If you want the menu, hold alt and press one of the first letter options like f.  You can then arrow down through the file menu, or arrow over to whatever menu you want.

CH

On 10/16/2021 05:23, Cornelius wrote:
Hi all,
Any  JFW users have the problem of JAWS not announcing the menu in iTune? For example if you press alt key and then the left or right arrow, JAWS will not say file or accounts etc.
I notice this has been happening for quite sometime and there seems to be no fix for it in the 2021 update of JAWS.
 
 
 

 


Ashleigh Piccinino
 

’I also know that,  at least, for me, JAWS doesn't even say anything when tabbing around. I have iTunes open right now, and I'm sitting on my table of music. The only thing I hear when making my first press of the tab key, all JAWS says is iTunes. I don't hear anything else until I get to the volume settings. I also hear the airplay button when tabbing but nothing else until the edit box  which is one tab down I think from the airplay. In other words, JAWS isn't as smooth with iTunes than it used to ;. However, it was never great with it! 

On Oct 18, 2021, at 9:32 AM, Alan Robbins <arobbins1057@...> wrote:



Hello,

 

Not sure on this. I did read on a list or web somewhere that Apple was considering discontinuing iTunes in the future? Can anyone validate this? If true they would need to fix the iPhone somehow to allow items to be put on and taken off.

 

Alan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cornelius
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 8:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune

 

 

Yes, but just want to know that JFW has no plan to improve its usability with iTune just like how they did with other app?

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:28 AM

Subject: Re: JFW and iTune

 

That's why one has a choice, just as with browsers there might be times when NVDA works better for a particular task than Jaws and vice versa.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cornelius
Sent: October 16, 2021 7:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune

 

 

Also it seems that NVDA navigates more smoothly in iTunes if compared with JAWS. I tried backing up my iPhone using JAWS on iTunes and it is not as smooth tabbing around the menu compared to if using NVDA.

 

 

From: Chris Hill

Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 9:21 PM

Subject: Re: JFW and iTune

 

Well, it is now.  I tried it with nvda, and the menus no longer come up with just alt. 

CH

On 10/16/2021 07:52, Cornelius wrote:

 

Hi Chris, that doesn’t seem to be the problem in a few versions back. We can press alt and use the left/right arrow to find the desire menu.

 

 

 

From: Chris Hill

Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 8:20 PM

Subject: Re: JFW and iTune

 

Hello.


That isn't jaws problem to fix.  Alt does not bring up the menu in itunes.  If you want the menu, hold alt and press one of the first letter options like f.  You can then arrow down through the file menu, or arrow over to whatever menu you want.

CH

On 10/16/2021 05:23, Cornelius wrote:

Hi all,

Any  JFW users have the problem of JAWS not announcing the menu in iTune? For example if you press alt key and then the left or right arrow, JAWS will not say file or accounts etc.

I notice this has been happening for quite sometime and there seems to be no fix for it in the 2021 update of JAWS.

 

 

 


Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

IN the somewhat distant past I gather, there were third party scripts for iTunes and Jaws.

BlindTunes and jTunes, but they seem to be no more.  At least,   the links referenced from the Freedom Scientific page about them are not valid.

 

So, trying NVDA or Narrator is the best next option when dealing with the craziness of itunes.

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2021 9:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTunes

 

’I also know that,  at least, for me, JAWS doesn't even say anything when tabbing around. I have iTunes open right now, and I'm sitting on my table of music. The only thing I hear when making my first press of the tab key, all JAWS says is iTunes. I don't hear anything else until I get to the volume settings. I also hear the airplay button when tabbing but nothing else until the edit box  which is one tab down I think from the airplay. In other words, JAWS isn't as smooth with iTunes than it used to ;. However, it was never great with it! 



On Oct 18, 2021, at 9:32 AM, Alan Robbins <arobbins1057@...> wrote:



Hello,

 

Not sure on this. I did read on a list or web somewhere that Apple was considering discontinuing iTunes in the future? Can anyone validate this? If true they would need to fix the iPhone somehow to allow items to be put on and taken off.

 

Alan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cornelius
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 8:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune

 

 

Yes, but just want to know that JFW has no plan to improve its usability with iTune just like how they did with other app?

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:28 AM

Subject: Re: JFW and iTune

 

That's why one has a choice, just as with browsers there might be times when NVDA works better for a particular task than Jaws and vice versa.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cornelius
Sent: October 16, 2021 7:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune

 

 

Also it seems that NVDA navigates more smoothly in iTunes if compared with JAWS. I tried backing up my iPhone using JAWS on iTunes and it is not as smooth tabbing around the menu compared to if using NVDA.

 

 

From: Chris Hill

Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 9:21 PM

Subject: Re: JFW and iTune

 

Well, it is now.  I tried it with nvda, and the menus no longer come up with just alt. 

CH

On 10/16/2021 07:52, Cornelius wrote:

 

Hi Chris, that doesn’t seem to be the problem in a few versions back. We can press alt and use the left/right arrow to find the desire menu.

 

 

 

From: Chris Hill

Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 8:20 PM

Subject: Re: JFW and iTune

 

Hello.


That isn't jaws problem to fix.  Alt does not bring up the menu in itunes.  If you want the menu, hold alt and press one of the first letter options like f.  You can then arrow down through the file menu, or arrow over to whatever menu you want.

CH

On 10/16/2021 05:23, Cornelius wrote:

Hi all,

Any  JFW users have the problem of JAWS not announcing the menu in iTune? For example if you press alt key and then the left or right arrow, JAWS will not say file or accounts etc.

I notice this has been happening for quite sometime and there seems to be no fix for it in the 2021 update of JAWS.

 

 

 


Cornelius
 

 
Glad to know I’m not alone. NVDA works better with iTunes and I really hope that JAWS could improve somedays.

From: Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2021 12:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTunes
 
’I also know that,  at least, for me, JAWS doesn't even say anything when tabbing around. I have iTunes open right now, and I'm sitting on my table of music. The only thing I hear when making my first press of the tab key, all JAWS says is iTunes. I don't hear anything else until I get to the volume settings. I also hear the airplay button when tabbing but nothing else until the edit box  which is one tab down I think from the airplay. In other words, JAWS isn't as smooth with iTunes than it used to ;. However, it was never great with it! 

On Oct 18, 2021, at 9:32 AM, Alan Robbins <arobbins1057@...> wrote:



Hello,

 

Not sure on this. I did read on a list or web somewhere that Apple was considering discontinuing iTunes in the future? Can anyone validate this? If true they would need to fix the iPhone somehow to allow items to be put on and taken off.

 

Alan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cornelius
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 8:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune

 

 

Yes, but just want to know that JFW has no plan to improve its usability with iTune just like how they did with other app?

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:28 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: JFW and iTune

 

That's why one has a choice, just as with browsers there might be times when NVDA works better for a particular task than Jaws and vice versa.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cornelius
Sent: October 16, 2021 7:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune

 

 

Also it seems that NVDA navigates more smoothly in iTunes if compared with JAWS. I tried backing up my iPhone using JAWS on iTunes and it is not as smooth tabbing around the menu compared to if using NVDA.

 

 

From: Chris Hill

Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 9:21 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: JFW and iTune

 

Well, it is now.  I tried it with nvda, and the menus no longer come up with just alt. 

CH

On 10/16/2021 07:52, Cornelius wrote:

 

Hi Chris, that doesn’t seem to be the problem in a few versions back. We can press alt and use the left/right arrow to find the desire menu.

 

 

 

From: Chris Hill

Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 8:20 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: JFW and iTune

 

Hello.


That isn't jaws problem to fix.  Alt does not bring up the menu in itunes.  If you want the menu, hold alt and press one of the first letter options like f.  You can then arrow down through the file menu, or arrow over to whatever menu you want.

CH

On 10/16/2021 05:23, Cornelius wrote:

Hi all,

Any  JFW users have the problem of JAWS not announcing the menu in iTune? For example if you press alt key and then the left or right arrow, JAWS will not say file or accounts etc.

I notice this has been happening for quite sometime and there seems to be no fix for it in the 2021 update of JAWS.