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JAWS Scripting for a new application


Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@...>
 

Dave, the point about Iphones was not directly relevant to John's question, but it was relevant to many list members as many of his followers have come about due to his development of hte scripts for Itunes, many of whom have Apple devices. I'm sure John won't just be scripting to help those people with apple devices but for those people who may wish to switch email clients on the basis John does his scripts for it they may find it useful to know.

It was one message to the list about something you might have thought was not relevent and now you have caused several other unnecessary messages to the list so why don't we just leave it there since I'm assuming that's what your grievance was?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 3:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

Peter,

Again why is that relevant to John's question about moving WLM Contacts to
Outlook Express? Outlook Express does not run on an iPhone, and this is not
an iPhone list -- at least not yet.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <ptrholdstock@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 23:48
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application


Exactly what the message said. You can't move over your contacts on to the
Iphone from WLM. That will matter to a lot of people since a large number of
visually impaired people now have Iphones so it is relevent.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 3:59 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

What does the iPhone have to do with Outlook Express and WLM?

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 18:12
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application


if you use iPhone, you can not transfer your emails addresses. Only works
for outlook.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 8:09 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application

I could do WLM for fun while I am gearing up for the next application. I'm
personally using Outlook 2010 and I hate it so perhaps I could make the
switch. Does it import outlook express and outlook 2010 messages. What about
profiles?
Thanks, this will help me in the short run of things.
John

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:05 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

There's a good idea John. WLM is used by many but has it's very silly querks
and it would be great if we could get an email client working perfectly well
with JAWS. I reckon it would only take you a day or so to fix everything as
much of it is stupid stuff like graphics not been labelled so the user has
to do it themselves so it will then identify unread messages, collapsed
conversations etc and the calendar function isn't ideal. Could be a quick
bit of work and create many happy JAWS users. That said I know I and many
others have repeatedly reported these issues to FS including during the JAWS
13 beta so hopefully they'll get off their backsides and fix them.

Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:54 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

Hello,
Does anyone know if there are scripts for the new WLM?
I'm running Windows Vista and Jaws 11 and I just installed WLM. It seems as
if it is utilizing ribbons instead of a menu bar, so I'm stuck with a
not-so-good way of changing my settings. Also the spell check is horrible
because it just tells the word that it wants to change to, not the
misspelled word.
I don't think this problem was on the old Windows Live Mail but I don't know
how to get an earlier version of WLM.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Holdstock
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:21 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

I think all of us agree that John should get some recompense for his work
and I think many offered to pay something for the fnatastic Itunes scripts.
Perhaps having a paypal link on his site would be a good idea for voluntary
contributions although if he came up with realistic prices I'd be happy to
consider whether I need the product or not.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Marquette, Ed
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:29 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application

At the risk of starting a conflagration of controversy, I would like to
support the notion that John should get some remuneration for his hard work
-- even if he charged for scripts.
I know I would pay significantly for a set of scripts that made Google Docs
accessable, though I think that is not feasible.
The biggest single area of inaccessibility I encounter on my job is with
respect to on-line collaboration. I have clients who regularly send
invitations to go-to-meeting sessions where a document will be on the
screen, albeit from the client's computer. We will be on the phone
together, and sometimes the client will make edits he wants me to review,
and sometimes he will say simply, "Here, I'll give you control. Why don't
you revise this section on indemnification?"
I accomplish this only with the assistance of my sighted secretary. Without
her presence, I would be sunk.
Serotek has something called Accessable Event, but that really doesn't cut
it.
Again, this may be an application of limited applicability, but I run into
it all the time, and document collaboration is becoming more and more
popular. I hear ads for Go-To-Meeting almost every time I tune into XM
Radio, and note the popularity of Google Docs, not just because it is cheap,
but also because it offers collaboration.
This may simply be impossible and not everyone needs it, but if you need it,
you need it bad.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:11 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application


Ok, so with most of the Office applications scripted for, not to
mention iTunes, and the various parts of Windows, what else would the
masses of unemployed blind folks with limitted incomes like access to?
With the basics that most people want to use daily covered, we're probably
going to move into more specialized applications that not as many people
require. If said application is something that some of us who work or are
trying to find work need access to, maybe we should donate a little cash to
John for his hard work and probably hundreds of hours spent scripting. Just
a thought. Of course, any donations would be voluntary.





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Dave...
 

Peter,

Grievance? Caused several other unnecessary messages? I'm just a poor sap
who believes that a question asked deserves a coherent and relevant answer,
that's all. No grievance. Clarity is essential if communication is to be
successful.

Sure, I'll drop it now, since you raised the question. And I'm a subscriber
to the Blind Tunes list and use iTunes with the Blind Tunes scripts, so am
familiar with his work on that application.

Thanks for your reply.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <ptrholdstock@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 09:59
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application


Dave, the point about Iphones was not directly relevant to John's question,
but it was relevant to many list members as many of his followers have come
about due to his development of hte scripts for Itunes, many of whom have
Apple devices. I'm sure John won't just be scripting to help those people
with apple devices but for those people who may wish to switch email clients
on the basis John does his scripts for it they may find it useful to know.

It was one message to the list about something you might have thought was
not relevent and now you have caused several other unnecessary messages to
the list so why don't we just leave it there since I'm assuming that's what
your grievance was?

Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 3:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

Peter,

Again why is that relevant to John's question about moving WLM Contacts to
Outlook Express? Outlook Express does not run on an iPhone, and this is not
an iPhone list -- at least not yet.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <ptrholdstock@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 23:48
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application


Exactly what the message said. You can't move over your contacts on to the
Iphone from WLM. That will matter to a lot of people since a large number of
visually impaired people now have Iphones so it is relevent.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 3:59 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

What does the iPhone have to do with Outlook Express and WLM?

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 18:12
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application


if you use iPhone, you can not transfer your emails addresses. Only works
for outlook.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 8:09 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application

I could do WLM for fun while I am gearing up for the next application. I'm
personally using Outlook 2010 and I hate it so perhaps I could make the
switch. Does it import outlook express and outlook 2010 messages. What about
profiles?
Thanks, this will help me in the short run of things.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:05 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

There's a good idea John. WLM is used by many but has it's very silly querks
and it would be great if we could get an email client working perfectly well
with JAWS. I reckon it would only take you a day or so to fix everything as
much of it is stupid stuff like graphics not been labelled so the user has
to do it themselves so it will then identify unread messages, collapsed
conversations etc and the calendar function isn't ideal. Could be a quick
bit of work and create many happy JAWS users. That said I know I and many
others have repeatedly reported these issues to FS including during the JAWS
13 beta so hopefully they'll get off their backsides and fix them.

Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:54 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

Hello,
Does anyone know if there are scripts for the new WLM?
I'm running Windows Vista and Jaws 11 and I just installed WLM. It seems as
if it is utilizing ribbons instead of a menu bar, so I'm stuck with a
not-so-good way of changing my settings. Also the spell check is horrible
because it just tells the word that it wants to change to, not the
misspelled word.
I don't think this problem was on the old Windows Live Mail but I don't know
how to get an earlier version of WLM.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Holdstock
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:21 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

I think all of us agree that John should get some recompense for his work
and I think many offered to pay something for the fnatastic Itunes scripts.
Perhaps having a paypal link on his site would be a good idea for voluntary
contributions although if he came up with realistic prices I'd be happy to
consider whether I need the product or not.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Marquette, Ed
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:29 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application

At the risk of starting a conflagration of controversy, I would like to
support the notion that John should get some remuneration for his hard work
-- even if he charged for scripts.
I know I would pay significantly for a set of scripts that made Google Docs
accessable, though I think that is not feasible.
The biggest single area of inaccessibility I encounter on my job is with
respect to on-line collaboration. I have clients who regularly send
invitations to go-to-meeting sessions where a document will be on the
screen, albeit from the client's computer. We will be on the phone
together, and sometimes the client will make edits he wants me to review,
and sometimes he will say simply, "Here, I'll give you control. Why don't
you revise this section on indemnification?"
I accomplish this only with the assistance of my sighted secretary. Without
her presence, I would be sunk.
Serotek has something called Accessable Event, but that really doesn't cut
it.
Again, this may be an application of limited applicability, but I run into
it all the time, and document collaboration is becoming more and more
popular. I hear ads for Go-To-Meeting almost every time I tune into XM
Radio, and note the popularity of Google Docs, not just because it is cheap,
but also because it offers collaboration.
This may simply be impossible and not everyone needs it, but if you need it,
you need it bad.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:11 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application


Ok, so with most of the Office applications scripted for, not to
mention iTunes, and the various parts of Windows, what else would the
masses of unemployed blind folks with limitted incomes like access to?
With the basics that most people want to use daily covered, we're probably
going to move into more specialized applications that not as many people
require. If said application is something that some of us who work or are
trying to find work need access to, maybe we should donate a little cash to
John for his hard work and probably hundreds of hours spent scripting. Just
a thought. Of course, any donations would be voluntary.





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Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@...>
 

Dave, I realised that. I wasn't trying to pick at your suggestion, just giving a point as to why, if John wants to benefit the most people, scripting for the remote might not help him achieve that.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 10:56 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

About $80 for the remote. John asked, and I answered. I wasn't trying to
find one that might or might not have universal appeal or usefulness. Just
know that this is one I'd personally like to have scripted.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <ptrholdstock@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 11:47
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application


Do many VI people have those remotes? I don't and I'm not sure how many
others will either. How much do they cost? I'm assuming not cheap and since
the majortiy of blind people don't work I suspect uptake for this will be
low. Of course I appreciate how it will be useful to those who do have the
remotes though!

Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 7:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

John,

I'm struggling with the interface with Logitech Harmony Remote. It allows a
single remote to be programmed to issue a series of commands in sequence, to
simplify the control of separate audio/video components.

The initial launch, installation, and the ultimate web interface are all
very inaccessible, even with JAWS 13's OCR.

Off-list I can "loan" you the files to install, but unfortunately in order
to get it running, you need an actual Harmony remote connected via USB. A
long shot, I know, but what a great tool to have for the VI.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Martyn" <johnrobertmartyn@gmail.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 11:21
Subject: JAWS Scripting for a new application


Hi all,
While I wrap up some last minute scripting projects, I am looking for a new
application to script. I won't be doing any financial applications or office
applications this time, but any other suggestions are welcome.
I've gotten rather quick at doing this so challenges are also welcome.
John Martyn



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