Moderated Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in Word
Karen Reynolds
Hi Mike, I’ve tried this. It worked at the moment. We’ll see if it does long term. It also worked for the short term after I changed the font style.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2023 11:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in Word
Hi Karen,
This is a longshot but, give this a try. While in Notepad press, Insert + 2, on the number row above the main keyboard to toggle through the echo settings and stop on, Words. Now type in Notepad and see if anything has changed.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen Reynolds Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2023 7:30 PM Subject: Re: Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in Word
I'm thinking that is the next thing. I was hoping to make it to the next |
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Karen Reynolds
What does insert plus s do?
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steven Hicks
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 8:14 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in Word
Use insert plus s to toggle the modes on the fly and see what happens then.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
I set it to words because that is what I like. Are you saying I have to set it to characters for Jaws to read anything there while I’m typing in a txt file?
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of TJ McElroy gMail
Hi Karen, On 1/19/2023 5:48 PM, Karen Reynolds wrote:
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Karen Reynolds
I have no idea how to set it as default without losing the changes I've
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made. I'll give what I have done a try. What tipped the balance and made me ask about it was that I was trying to take notes during the FS zoom meeting yesterday on braille displays. It kept going wonky and now I'm going to have to relisten to the program because I missed so much. For someone who can type as fast as someone can talk, this thing drives me nuts. As for full window, I have no clue. I've tried doing f11, but not sure it worked. I know it does with Edge and Firefox. What does putting it in full screen do? Karen -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steven Hicks Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 8:14 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in Word There is a switch that you can use to run JAWS in default mode, can't remember what it is now but that may be worth a try. It just loads for testing with default options for everything and scripts etc. To be honest, I have come across some occasions when notepad behaves like this but closing and re-opening normally sorts it out, it could be a window in the background or something. Is it maximised. Unload JAWS and then re-open with Notepad open and try then. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker Sent: 20 January 2023 00:15 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in Word Hi Karen, You may just need to reinstall jaws. Mike |
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Mike B.
Hi Karen,
Doing what I suggested is only a temporary
fix. You'll need to set it permanently in Notepad / Settings Center or,
Settings Center default all
applications
Another thing to check is the speech and sound
scheme. While in Notepad press, Insert, Alt + S, to open the list of
speech and sound schemes. The scheme that is currently in use is
highlighted, and if the, Classic, scheme isn't in use navigate to, Classic, and
press enter and hopefully this will help if nothing else does.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Note from a creditor: Dear Sir, Your account has been on our books for over a year. We want to remind you that we have now carried you longer than your mother did!" ----- Original Message -----
From: Karen Reynolds
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 5:44 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in
Word Hi Mike, I’ve tried this. It worked at the moment. We’ll see if it does long term. It also worked for the short term after I changed the font style.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Hi Karen,
This is a longshot but, give this a try. While in Notepad press, Insert + 2, on the number row above the main keyboard to toggle through the echo settings and stop on, Words. Now type in Notepad and see if anything has changed.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen Reynolds Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2023 7:30 PM Subject: Re: Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in Word
I'm thinking that is the next
thing. I was hoping to make it to the next |
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Curtis Chong
Greetings:
To make Word Echo a permanent setting, do the following.
HTH
Warmly,
Curtis Chong
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 10:56 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in Word
Hi Karen,
Doing what I suggested is only a temporary fix. You'll need to set it permanently in Notepad / Settings Center or, Settings Center default all applications
Another thing to check is the speech and sound scheme. While in Notepad press, Insert, Alt + S, to open the list of speech and sound schemes. The scheme that is currently in use is highlighted, and if the, Classic, scheme isn't in use navigate to, Classic, and press enter and hopefully this will help if nothing else does.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen Reynolds Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 5:44 AM Subject: Re: Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in Word
Hi Mike, I’ve tried this. It worked at the moment. We’ll see if it does long term. It also worked for the short term after I changed the font style.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Hi Karen,
This is a longshot but, give this a try. While in Notepad press, Insert + 2, on the number row above the main keyboard to toggle through the echo settings and stop on, Words. Now type in Notepad and see if anything has changed.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen Reynolds Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2023 7:30 PM Subject: Re: Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in Word
I'm thinking that is the next thing. I was hoping to make it to the next |
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Karen Reynolds
Thanks. I’ve done that.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 1:01 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in Word
Greetings:
To make Word Echo a permanent setting, do the following.
HTH
Warmly,
Curtis Chong
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Hi Karen,
Doing what I suggested is only a temporary fix. You'll need to set it permanently in Notepad / Settings Center or, Settings Center default all applications
Another thing to check is the speech and sound scheme. While in Notepad press, Insert, Alt + S, to open the list of speech and sound schemes. The scheme that is currently in use is highlighted, and if the, Classic, scheme isn't in use navigate to, Classic, and press enter and hopefully this will help if nothing else does.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen Reynolds Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 5:44 AM Subject: Re: Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in Word
Hi Mike, I’ve tried this. It worked at the moment. We’ll see if it does long term. It also worked for the short term after I changed the font style.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Hi Karen,
This is a longshot but, give this a try. While in Notepad press, Insert + 2, on the number row above the main keyboard to toggle through the echo settings and stop on, Words. Now type in Notepad and see if anything has changed.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen Reynolds Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2023 7:30 PM Subject: Re: Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in Word
I'm thinking that is the next thing. I was hoping to make it to the next |
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Karen Reynolds
Hi Mike, I did this. There was only one and it was the classic.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 12:56 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in Word
Hi Karen,
Doing what I suggested is only a temporary fix. You'll need to set it permanently in Notepad / Settings Center or, Settings Center default all applications
Another thing to check is the speech and sound scheme. While in Notepad press, Insert, Alt + S, to open the list of speech and sound schemes. The scheme that is currently in use is highlighted, and if the, Classic, scheme isn't in use navigate to, Classic, and press enter and hopefully this will help if nothing else does.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen Reynolds Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 5:44 AM Subject: Re: Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in Word
Hi Mike, I’ve tried this. It worked at the moment. We’ll see if it does long term. It also worked for the short term after I changed the font style.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Hi Karen,
This is a longshot but, give this a try. While in Notepad press, Insert + 2, on the number row above the main keyboard to toggle through the echo settings and stop on, Words. Now type in Notepad and see if anything has changed.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen Reynolds Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2023 7:30 PM Subject: Re: Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in Word
I'm thinking that is the next thing. I was hoping to make it to the next |
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Mike Pietruk
Karen
When I read frustrating experiences such as yours -- and we've all been there -- it reminds me of why I like backing up things. In this case, Jaws' enu file. Learned that last year from Brian Hartgen's Jaws Muscles course. He prefers backing that up over Jaws' setting back up which isn't complete in what it keeps. |
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Karen Reynolds
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I'm not sure where that file is to back up. Karen -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 2:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in Word Karen When I read frustrating experiences such as yours -- and we've all been there -- it reminds me of why I like backing up things. In this case, Jaws' enu file. Learned that last year from Brian Hartgen's Jaws Muscles course. He prefers backing that up over Jaws' setting back up which isn't complete in what it keeps. |
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Marie Nelson
I know this is not a solution for Notepad, but why not use HJ Pad to take your notes. You can save in TXT or RTF file format and it has a spell checker and some very simple format settings. I personally seldom use Notepad.
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Marie -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 11:08 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in Word Karen When I read frustrating experiences such as yours -- and we've all been there -- it reminds me of why I like backing up things. In this case, Jaws' enu file. Learned that last year from Brian Hartgen's Jaws Muscles course. He prefers backing that up over Jaws' setting back up which isn't complete in what it keeps. |
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Michael Walker
I would certainly try Stevens suggestions. If you still have issues, you could rerun the jaws set up, and repair jaws.
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Karen Reynolds
Thanks. That's my next step if it shows up again.
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Karen -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 2:44 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in Word I would certainly try Stevens suggestions. If you still have issues, you could rerun the jaws set up, and repair jaws. |
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Karen Reynolds
What is HJ pad?
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Karen -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marie Nelson Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 2:28 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in Word I know this is not a solution for Notepad, but why not use HJ Pad to take your notes. You can save in TXT or RTF file format and it has a spell checker and some very simple format settings. I personally seldom use Notepad. Marie -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 11:08 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in Word Karen When I read frustrating experiences such as yours -- and we've all been there -- it reminds me of why I like backing up things. In this case, Jaws' enu file. Learned that last year from Brian Hartgen's Jaws Muscles course. He prefers backing that up over Jaws' setting back up which isn't complete in what it keeps. |
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Marie Nelson
It is a program which is included with Jaws and is very similar to Word Pad but with the spell checker. I have used it for years and love it. Go to
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Go to This PC/program files/freedom scientific/jaws/ 2023 (or whatever version you are using) and find hjpad.exe I then put a shortcut on the desktop. -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 11:47 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in Word What is HJ pad? Karen -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marie Nelson Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 2:28 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in Word I know this is not a solution for Notepad, but why not use HJ Pad to take your notes. You can save in TXT or RTF file format and it has a spell checker and some very simple format settings. I personally seldom use Notepad. Marie -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 11:08 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in Word Karen When I read frustrating experiences such as yours -- and we've all been there -- it reminds me of why I like backing up things. In this case, Jaws' enu file. Learned that last year from Brian Hartgen's Jaws Muscles course. He prefers backing that up over Jaws' setting back up which isn't complete in what it keeps. |
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Karen Reynolds
What I found was hj pad.exe. Is this it?
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Karen -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marie Nelson Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 3:52 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in Word It is a program which is included with Jaws and is very similar to Word Pad but with the spell checker. I have used it for years and love it. Go to Go to This PC/program files/freedom scientific/jaws/ 2023 (or whatever version you are using) and find hjpad.exe I then put a shortcut on the desktop. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 11:47 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in Word What is HJ pad? Karen -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marie Nelson Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 2:28 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in Word I know this is not a solution for Notepad, but why not use HJ Pad to take your notes. You can save in TXT or RTF file format and it has a spell checker and some very simple format settings. I personally seldom use Notepad. Marie -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 11:08 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in Word Karen When I read frustrating experiences such as yours -- and we've all been there -- it reminds me of why I like backing up things. In this case, Jaws' enu file. Learned that last year from Brian Hartgen's Jaws Muscles course. He prefers backing that up over Jaws' setting back up which isn't complete in what it keeps. |
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Mike Pietruk
Marie
Thanks for the hjpad.exe suggestion as an alternate text editor. I'll keep that in mind. I've been using Jamal Mazrui's Edsharp which has been around for longer than I can remember. l Amazingly, it still works in modern Windows system and is very blind friendly as it should be as it was written by a blind programmer. And looking in the ENU folder, there seems to be a script included for HJPAD. |
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Mike Pietruk
That's the program, Karen.
And, in a few minutes, I'll get you the answer on the path for the ENU folder; btw, ENU = English North America. |
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Mike B.
Hi Karen,
Yes, that's it. Now create a desktop
shortcut icon from that .EXE file.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Note from a creditor: Dear Sir, Your account has been on our books for over a year. We want to remind you that we have now carried you longer than your mother did!" ----- Original Message -----
From: Karen Reynolds
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in
Word Karen -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marie Nelson Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 3:52 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in Word It is a program which is included with Jaws and is very similar to Word Pad but with the spell checker. I have used it for years and love it. Go to Go to This PC/program files/freedom scientific/jaws/ 2023 (or whatever version you are using) and find hjpad.exe I then put a shortcut on the desktop. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 11:47 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in Word What is HJ pad? Karen -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marie Nelson Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 2:28 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in Word I know this is not a solution for Notepad, but why not use HJ Pad to take your notes. You can save in TXT or RTF file format and it has a spell checker and some very simple format settings. I personally seldom use Notepad. Marie -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 11:08 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in Word Karen When I read frustrating experiences such as yours -- and we've all been there -- it reminds me of why I like backing up things. In this case, Jaws' enu file. Learned that last year from Brian Hartgen's Jaws Muscles course. He prefers backing that up over Jaws' setting back up which isn't complete in what it keeps. |
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Mike Pietruk
Karen and all
The Jaws Settings folder is at this path on my win10 desktop: C:\Users\hp envy\AppData\Roaming\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\2023\Settings\enu An alternate way to find is through %appdata% from the run dialog, type "%appdata%" without the quote marks: you'll see a listing for all the programs that have such data files. typing the letter "f" will get you to Freedom Scientific; and so forth. My ENU folder has over 200 files; so, it's jampacked with stuff. There are a bunch of JAWS scripts, including those I have for Leasey, place marker files, et al. Personally, I try backing it up every week or 2 and keep 2 back-ups on file. I'm far more comfortable playing around with JAWS settings when I have back-ups just in case I either mess things up, something goes haywire as it did for Karen, or I decide later that some changes are best undone. And I like back-ups for some other programs/apps that are under %appdata%. From what I understand, you can also get to the settings folder through Jaws' Utilities menu. I'm guessing that a knowledgable user might be able to make repairs by replacing specific files in that folder. |
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Karen Reynolds
Hi Mike, I did but it added short cut to the end of the name, so I used shift f10 to rename it and remove it. Does it have to have the .exe in the name?
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 4:16 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in Word
Hi Karen,
Yes, that's it. Now create a desktop shortcut icon from that .EXE file.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen Reynolds Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 12:59 PM Subject: Re: Jaws not speaking while typing in notepad but does in Word
What I found was hj pad.exe. Is this it? |
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