moderated Jaws Announcing "Has Details"


Marc Grossman
 

Windows 11
Jaws 2022
Microsoft Edge v. 105
While navigating an article, Jaws announces "Has details." Additionally, Jaws will say "Entering Details."
From what I gathered, this is related to Accessible Rich Internet Applications (ARIA). I have two questions.
1. Is this similar to the "Long Description" or "Long Desc?" If so, is there a Jaws keystroke to reveal additional information.
2. Is there any way to get Jaws to not announce "Has Details?"

Thanks


Gene Warner
 

If it's not a notification that can be managed with the JAWS' notification manager, you might be able to use flexible web for that.

And that's about as far as my knowledge of JAWS gets me. If there is a setting for this I am not aware of it.

Gene...

On 9/13/2022 10:14 PM, Marc Grossman wrote:
Windows 11
Jaws 2022
Microsoft Edge v. 105
While navigating an article, Jaws announces "Has details." Additionally, Jaws will say "Entering Details."
From what I gathered, this is related to Accessible Rich Internet Applications (ARIA). I have two questions.
1. Is this similar to the "Long Description" or "Long Desc?" If so, is there a Jaws keystroke to reveal additional information.
2. Is there any way to get Jaws to not announce "Has Details?"
Thanks


Steve Faulkner
 

This article may be helpful in regards to the announcements in JAWS

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Regards

Steve Faulkner
Web Standards messaging
one t-shirt at a time


Mich Verrier
 

Hi I have herd jaws announce this but have no idea what it meens. And btw the artickle didn’t really help. Is there some sort of way that we are supos to interact when we hear this? From Mich.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Faulkner
Sent: September 14, 2022 9:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Announcing "Has Details"

 

This article may be helpful in regards to the announcements in JAWS


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Regards

Steve Faulkner

Web Standards messaging

one t-shirt at a time


Gene Warner
 

Just out curiosity and to experience what you are talking about, is there a web site I can go to?

Gene...

On 9/14/2022 1:44 PM, Mich Verrier wrote:
Hi I have herd jaws announce this but have no idea what it meens. And btw the artickle didn’t really help. Is there some sort of way that we are supos to interact when we hear this? From Mich.
*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Steve Faulkner
*Sent:* September 14, 2022 9:47 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Jaws Announcing "Has Details"
This article may be helpful in regards to the announcements in JAWS
https://html5accessibility.com/stuff/2022/08/25/short-note-on-figure-and-figcaption/ <https://html5accessibility.com/stuff/2022/08/25/short-note-on-figure-and-figcaption/>
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Regards
Steve Faulkner
Web Standards messaging
one t-shirt at a time
https://www.etsy.com/uk/shop/HTMLZ <https://www.etsy.com/uk/shop/HTMLZ>


Steve Nutt
 

It's not a notification, it's a web element.

I'm not sure how to expand it though.

All the best

steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: 14 September 2022 13:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Announcing "Has Details"

If it's not a notification that can be managed with the JAWS'
notification manager, you might be able to use flexible web for that.

And that's about as far as my knowledge of JAWS gets me. If there is a setting for this I am not aware of it.

Gene...


On 9/13/2022 10:14 PM, Marc Grossman wrote:
Windows 11
Jaws 2022
Microsoft Edge v. 105
While navigating an article, Jaws announces "Has details."
Additionally, Jaws will say "Entering Details."
From what I gathered, this is related to Accessible Rich Internet
Applications (ARIA). I have two questions.
1. Is this similar to the "Long Description" or "Long Desc?" If so, is
there a Jaws keystroke to reveal additional information.
2. Is there any way to get Jaws to not announce "Has Details?"

Thanks


Steve Nutt
 

Yes, the link lower in the thread.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: 14 September 2022 19:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Announcing "Has Details"

Just out curiosity and to experience what you are talking about, is there a web site I can go to?

Gene...


On 9/14/2022 1:44 PM, Mich Verrier wrote:
Hi I have herd jaws announce this but have no idea what it meens. And
btw the artickle didn’t really help. Is there some sort of way that we
are supos to interact when we hear this? From Mich.

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Steve
Faulkner
*Sent:* September 14, 2022 9:47 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Jaws Announcing "Has Details"

This article may be helpful in regards to the announcements in JAWS

https://html5accessibility.com/stuff/2022/08/25/short-note-on-figure-a
nd-figcaption/
<https://html5accessibility.com/stuff/2022/08/25/short-note-on-figure-
and-figcaption/>


--

Regards

Steve Faulkner

Web Standards messaging

one t-shirt at a time

https://www.etsy.com/uk/shop/HTMLZ
<https://www.etsy.com/uk/shop/HTMLZ>


Steve Faulkner
 

There are 2 circumstances where JAWS should announce "has details":
1. If there is an HTML figure and figcaption element. When navigating to the start of the figure element "has details" should be announced, when navigating to the figcaption element "entering details" should be announced. "has details" is a hint that the content of the figure element contains a figcaption element that describes the content contained within the figure element.

2. if an HTML element that is allowed to have the aria-details="ID reference" has this attribute. When navigating to the start of the element "has details" should be announced.  When navigating to the element with the ID referenced in aria-details attribute "entering details" should be announced.

Note that JAWS has a bug that causes every child element of either code above, to be suffixed with the "has details" announcement. This is a known issue and is being fixed.

On Fri, 16 Sept 2022 at 08:19, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:
It's not a notification, it's a web element.

I'm not sure how to expand it though.

All the best

steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: 14 September 2022 13:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Announcing "Has Details"

If it's not a notification that can be managed with the JAWS'
notification manager, you might be able to use flexible web for that.

And that's about as far as my knowledge of JAWS gets me. If there is a setting for this I am not aware of it.

Gene...


On 9/13/2022 10:14 PM, Marc Grossman wrote:
> Windows 11
> Jaws 2022
> Microsoft Edge v. 105
> While navigating an article, Jaws announces "Has details."
> Additionally, Jaws will say "Entering Details."
>  From what I gathered, this is related to Accessible Rich Internet
> Applications (ARIA). I have two questions.
> 1. Is this similar to the "Long Description" or "Long Desc?" If so, is
> there a Jaws keystroke to reveal additional information.
> 2. Is there any way to get Jaws to not announce "Has Details?"
>
> Thanks
>