Hi Glenn!
I understand now. In my case 99% of the time I need to make a recording of an Aira or Be My Eyes session, I'm at home at my desk, so I just use a voice recorder which allows me to copy off it recordings to my computer, which I do primarily as a backup.
But yeah, if I was out and about, it would be nice to have the option of recording a session on the phone and be able to copy them off to my computer later, come to think of it, Aira doesn't provide a way to record their sessions either.
Have you tried using a separate app to do the recording? It may not be as convenient as doing it within the Be My Eyes app, but if it works, it would still be on the phone instead of a separate device.
And as for copying my photos off the phone, the last time I tried it without iTunes or iCloud, Windows recognized the phone but you could not access it without Apple's software, and I had never heard that that had changed. And knowing how Apple is in love with their closed garden, I didn't think that they would ever open it up even a little bit.
Gene...
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On 7/4/2022 3:27 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote: Gene, Rather than using a second device for recording the session, it would be nice for Be My Eyes, or another such app, to allow us to record it onto the iPhone and save it. I've always known about plugging the phone into the computer allows us to copy out the photos and videos, and I'm glad you finally found this out, but now that you know this, wouldn't you like to know it is there for your apps recordings as well? Like I mentioned, it would be nice to do this without another device for recording. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2022 2:21 PM Subject: Re: JAWS and Apple's iCloud? I guess I don't really understand what you are getting at, for this simple and accessible technique for getting photos off the iPhone, why bother recording it? Just spread the word. I will admit that I have recorded sessions with Aira, primarily because I am asking them to read information off of something that I will want to transcribe into One Note later and when I do that I always tell the agent that I'm recording the session because as I understand it, it isn't entirely legal to record someone without their knowledge or consent. Gene... On 7/4/2022 3:05 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
If Be My Eyes added the feature to record our Be My Eyes sessions as a video, we could plug our phones into the computer and copy them off the phone to keep on the computer for later use. For those who didn't know that plugging your phone into your computer gives you access to the pictures and videos on the phone. Thus, if that app allowed us to save them, we could access them. Many Blind folks only use their phone's camera for the Blindness apps. Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2022 1:47 PM Subject: Re: JAWS and Apple's iCloud?
Hi Glenn!
I'm confused, what does recording Be My Eyes sessions have to do with iCloud accessibility and getting my photos off of my iPhone? I'm not criticizing, I'm just curious.
Gene...
On 7/4/2022 2:35 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
I gave the suggestion to the makers of the Be My Eyes app that we be given the option to record the assistance, and of course the volunteer would be informed that it was recorded. This way we can plug the phone into the computer and get the video off the phone for later reference. This would be useful when having technology read to us for labeling of the controls. I have recorded assistance before with a separate recorder, and I let the volunteers know I'm recording it. Others who use Be My Eyes might let the makers of this app know if you would want this feature as well, as they would put a priority on this if they thought others wanted it as well.
Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2022 1:29 PM Subject: Re: JAWS and Apple's iCloud?
Hi Mike!
Oh man! If that works with my iPhone SE 2022, I will be so happy! Finally an accessible way to get my photos off my phone!
After some googling around I discovered that Sandisk makes a flash drive that they call iXpand which plugs into an iPhone to transfer your photos onto, then you plug it into a USB port on your computer to copy the photos to your computer. I was considering this approach if there was nothing else available.
I called Apple support about this accessibility problem an their position was that "Yes, they are committed to full accessibility for all of their products", but what isn't said is that that commitment only applies as long as you are using nothing but Apple products. Insert a non Apple product and nothing is guaranteed. To me that is not accessibility, to me accessibility should be platform agnostic. That being said, my next phone will be an Android phone and Apple can pound sand for all that I care! I simply cannot support a conditional accessibility statement like that.
Getting off my soapbox now...
Thanks! Gene...
On 7/4/2022 1:56 PM, Mike B. wrote:
Hi Gene, Here's how we transfer photos from our SE2020 iPhones to our computers running iOS14.8 and both Windows 7 & 10 operating systems using the Lightning to USB data / charging cable:
1. Plug the iPhone into the PC using the lightning / USB cable, and single finger double tap the Trust device option that pops up on your iPhone.
2. Open Explorer with the keystroke, Windows key + E, find Apple iPhone and press enter.
3. Select and open a folder named, Internal Storage, and open the, DCIM, folder.
4. The only folder I have here is, you may have more, 100Apple, and this is where my pictures are stored. Now copy / paste this folder to a flashdrive or whatever you want to, and you've successfully moved / saved a copy of your picture folder to the computer. Stay safe & take care. Mike.
Stay safe and take care. Mike. PSA Folks: You can still get gas for under a dollar fifty at Taco Bell! ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Gene Warner <mailto:genewarner3@...> *To:* JAWS support list <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Sent:* Monday, July 04, 2022 10:40 AM *Subject:* JAWS and Apple's iCloud?
Hi everyone!
I am trying to transfer all of my photos from my iPhone to my PC, but so far haven't had any luck. First, using Edge I logged into my Apple ID then went to my iCloud drive with no problems. Then when I tried to select my photos so I could download them, my iCloud drive seemed empty even though it was reporting having something like 78 photos. I even tried using the touch cursor but still had no luck.
Then I was told that I should install iCloud for Windows and it would download my photos for me, so I did. Now I not only find that I cannot access anything on my iCloud drive, the app won't stay loaded. It used to have a notification area icon but that never shows up any more even though all three startup programs that Apple installed are turned in the Windows 10 settings program.
So what do I do now? I know I could just email the pictures to myself, but with almost 80 photos, that would be quite tedious.
I thought Apple was committed to full accessibility for all of their products and I know that iCloud for Windows is an Apple product. Had I known that Apple would make it this difficult, I'd have emailed the photos to myself as soon as I took them.
Thanks! Gene...
|
|
Gene, Rather than using a second device for recording the session, it would be nice for Be My Eyes, or another such app, to allow us to record it onto the iPhone and save it. I've always known about plugging the phone into the computer allows us to copy out the photos and videos, and I'm glad you finally found this out, but now that you know this, wouldn't you like to know it is there for your apps recordings as well? Like I mentioned, it would be nice to do this without another device for recording. Glenn
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2022 2:21 PM Subject: Re: JAWS and Apple's iCloud? I guess I don't really understand what you are getting at, for this simple and accessible technique for getting photos off the iPhone, why bother recording it? Just spread the word. I will admit that I have recorded sessions with Aira, primarily because I am asking them to read information off of something that I will want to transcribe into One Note later and when I do that I always tell the agent that I'm recording the session because as I understand it, it isn't entirely legal to record someone without their knowledge or consent. Gene... On 7/4/2022 3:05 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote: If Be My Eyes added the feature to record our Be My Eyes sessions as a video, we could plug our phones into the computer and copy them off the phone to keep on the computer for later use. For those who didn't know that plugging your phone into your computer gives you access to the pictures and videos on the phone. Thus, if that app allowed us to save them, we could access them. Many Blind folks only use their phone's camera for the Blindness apps. Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2022 1:47 PM Subject: Re: JAWS and Apple's iCloud?
Hi Glenn!
I'm confused, what does recording Be My Eyes sessions have to do with iCloud accessibility and getting my photos off of my iPhone? I'm not criticizing, I'm just curious.
Gene...
On 7/4/2022 2:35 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
I gave the suggestion to the makers of the Be My Eyes app that we be given the option to record the assistance, and of course the volunteer would be informed that it was recorded. This way we can plug the phone into the computer and get the video off the phone for later reference. This would be useful when having technology read to us for labeling of the controls. I have recorded assistance before with a separate recorder, and I let the volunteers know I'm recording it. Others who use Be My Eyes might let the makers of this app know if you would want this feature as well, as they would put a priority on this if they thought others wanted it as well.
Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2022 1:29 PM Subject: Re: JAWS and Apple's iCloud?
Hi Mike!
Oh man! If that works with my iPhone SE 2022, I will be so happy! Finally an accessible way to get my photos off my phone!
After some googling around I discovered that Sandisk makes a flash drive that they call iXpand which plugs into an iPhone to transfer your photos onto, then you plug it into a USB port on your computer to copy the photos to your computer. I was considering this approach if there was nothing else available.
I called Apple support about this accessibility problem an their position was that "Yes, they are committed to full accessibility for all of their products", but what isn't said is that that commitment only applies as long as you are using nothing but Apple products. Insert a non Apple product and nothing is guaranteed. To me that is not accessibility, to me accessibility should be platform agnostic. That being said, my next phone will be an Android phone and Apple can pound sand for all that I care! I simply cannot support a conditional accessibility statement like that.
Getting off my soapbox now...
Thanks! Gene...
On 7/4/2022 1:56 PM, Mike B. wrote:
Hi Gene, Here's how we transfer photos from our SE2020 iPhones to our computers running iOS14.8 and both Windows 7 & 10 operating systems using the Lightning to USB data / charging cable:
1. Plug the iPhone into the PC using the lightning / USB cable, and single finger double tap the Trust device option that pops up on your iPhone.
2. Open Explorer with the keystroke, Windows key + E, find Apple iPhone and press enter.
3. Select and open a folder named, Internal Storage, and open the, DCIM, folder.
4. The only folder I have here is, you may have more, 100Apple, and this is where my pictures are stored. Now copy / paste this folder to a flashdrive or whatever you want to, and you've successfully moved / saved a copy of your picture folder to the computer. Stay safe & take care. Mike.
Stay safe and take care. Mike. PSA Folks: You can still get gas for under a dollar fifty at Taco Bell! ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Gene Warner <mailto:genewarner3@...> *To:* JAWS support list <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Sent:* Monday, July 04, 2022 10:40 AM *Subject:* JAWS and Apple's iCloud?
Hi everyone!
I am trying to transfer all of my photos from my iPhone to my PC, but so far haven't had any luck. First, using Edge I logged into my Apple ID then went to my iCloud drive with no problems. Then when I tried to select my photos so I could download them, my iCloud drive seemed empty even though it was reporting having something like 78 photos. I even tried using the touch cursor but still had no luck.
Then I was told that I should install iCloud for Windows and it would download my photos for me, so I did. Now I not only find that I cannot access anything on my iCloud drive, the app won't stay loaded. It used to have a notification area icon but that never shows up any more even though all three startup programs that Apple installed are turned in the Windows 10 settings program.
So what do I do now? I know I could just email the pictures to myself, but with almost 80 photos, that would be quite tedious.
I thought Apple was committed to full accessibility for all of their products and I know that iCloud for Windows is an Apple product. Had I known that Apple would make it this difficult, I'd have emailed the photos to myself as soon as I took them.
Thanks! Gene...
|
|
I guess I don't really understand what you are getting at, for this simple and accessible technique for getting photos off the iPhone, why bother recording it? Just spread the word. I will admit that I have recorded sessions with Aira, primarily because I am asking them to read information off of something that I will want to transcribe into One Note later and when I do that I always tell the agent that I'm recording the session because as I understand it, it isn't entirely legal to record someone without their knowledge or consent.
Gene...
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On 7/4/2022 3:05 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote: If Be My Eyes added the feature to record our Be My Eyes sessions as a video, we could plug our phones into the computer and copy them off the phone to keep on the computer for later use. For those who didn't know that plugging your phone into your computer gives you access to the pictures and videos on the phone. Thus, if that app allowed us to save them, we could access them. Many Blind folks only use their phone's camera for the Blindness apps. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2022 1:47 PM Subject: Re: JAWS and Apple's iCloud? Hi Glenn! I'm confused, what does recording Be My Eyes sessions have to do with iCloud accessibility and getting my photos off of my iPhone? I'm not criticizing, I'm just curious. Gene... On 7/4/2022 2:35 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
I gave the suggestion to the makers of the Be My Eyes app that we be given the option to record the assistance, and of course the volunteer would be informed that it was recorded. This way we can plug the phone into the computer and get the video off the phone for later reference. This would be useful when having technology read to us for labeling of the controls. I have recorded assistance before with a separate recorder, and I let the volunteers know I'm recording it. Others who use Be My Eyes might let the makers of this app know if you would want this feature as well, as they would put a priority on this if they thought others wanted it as well.
Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2022 1:29 PM Subject: Re: JAWS and Apple's iCloud?
Hi Mike!
Oh man! If that works with my iPhone SE 2022, I will be so happy! Finally an accessible way to get my photos off my phone!
After some googling around I discovered that Sandisk makes a flash drive that they call iXpand which plugs into an iPhone to transfer your photos onto, then you plug it into a USB port on your computer to copy the photos to your computer. I was considering this approach if there was nothing else available.
I called Apple support about this accessibility problem an their position was that "Yes, they are committed to full accessibility for all of their products", but what isn't said is that that commitment only applies as long as you are using nothing but Apple products. Insert a non Apple product and nothing is guaranteed. To me that is not accessibility, to me accessibility should be platform agnostic. That being said, my next phone will be an Android phone and Apple can pound sand for all that I care! I simply cannot support a conditional accessibility statement like that.
Getting off my soapbox now...
Thanks! Gene...
On 7/4/2022 1:56 PM, Mike B. wrote:
Hi Gene, Here's how we transfer photos from our SE2020 iPhones to our computers running iOS14.8 and both Windows 7 & 10 operating systems using the Lightning to USB data / charging cable:
1. Plug the iPhone into the PC using the lightning / USB cable, and single finger double tap the Trust device option that pops up on your iPhone.
2. Open Explorer with the keystroke, Windows key + E, find Apple iPhone and press enter.
3. Select and open a folder named, Internal Storage, and open the, DCIM, folder.
4. The only folder I have here is, you may have more, 100Apple, and this is where my pictures are stored. Now copy / paste this folder to a flashdrive or whatever you want to, and you've successfully moved / saved a copy of your picture folder to the computer. Stay safe & take care. Mike.
Stay safe and take care. Mike. PSA Folks: You can still get gas for under a dollar fifty at Taco Bell! ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Gene Warner <mailto:genewarner3@...> *To:* JAWS support list <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Sent:* Monday, July 04, 2022 10:40 AM *Subject:* JAWS and Apple's iCloud?
Hi everyone!
I am trying to transfer all of my photos from my iPhone to my PC, but so far haven't had any luck. First, using Edge I logged into my Apple ID then went to my iCloud drive with no problems. Then when I tried to select my photos so I could download them, my iCloud drive seemed empty even though it was reporting having something like 78 photos. I even tried using the touch cursor but still had no luck.
Then I was told that I should install iCloud for Windows and it would download my photos for me, so I did. Now I not only find that I cannot access anything on my iCloud drive, the app won't stay loaded. It used to have a notification area icon but that never shows up any more even though all three startup programs that Apple installed are turned in the Windows 10 settings program.
So what do I do now? I know I could just email the pictures to myself, but with almost 80 photos, that would be quite tedious.
I thought Apple was committed to full accessibility for all of their products and I know that iCloud for Windows is an Apple product. Had I known that Apple would make it this difficult, I'd have emailed the photos to myself as soon as I took them.
Thanks! Gene...
|
|
Hi Mike!
Yipee! It works! You are the man!
With my iPhone SE 2022, this is what I found:
\Iphone\internal storage\dcim\
then a whole bunch of folders which I figured out were one folder for each month that I took a photo:
201901__ 201903__ 201904__ 201906__ 201907__ 201908__ 201909__ 201910__ 201912__ 202003__ 202006__ 202008__ 202009__ 202011__ 202101__ 202104__ 202105__ 202106__ 202108__ 202201__ 202202__ 202203__ 202205__ 202206__ 202207__ folders.txt
Not exactly the cleanest or easiest way, but if it gets my photos off the phone, I'll take it!
Thank you, thank you, thank you! Gene...
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On 7/4/2022 2:29 PM, Gene Warner via groups.io wrote: Hi Mike! Oh man! If that works with my iPhone SE 2022, I will be so happy! Finally an accessible way to get my photos off my phone! After some googling around I discovered that Sandisk makes a flash drive that they call iXpand which plugs into an iPhone to transfer your photos onto, then you plug it into a USB port on your computer to copy the photos to your computer. I was considering this approach if there was nothing else available. I called Apple support about this accessibility problem an their position was that "Yes, they are committed to full accessibility for all of their products", but what isn't said is that that commitment only applies as long as you are using nothing but Apple products. Insert a non Apple product and nothing is guaranteed. To me that is not accessibility, to me accessibility should be platform agnostic. That being said, my next phone will be an Android phone and Apple can pound sand for all that I care! I simply cannot support a conditional accessibility statement like that. Getting off my soapbox now... Thanks! Gene... On 7/4/2022 1:56 PM, Mike B. wrote:
Hi Gene, Here's how we transfer photos from our SE2020 iPhones to our computers running iOS14.8 and both Windows 7 & 10 operating systems using the Lightning to USB data / charging cable:
1. Plug the iPhone into the PC using the lightning / USB cable, and single finger double tap the Trust device option that pops up on your iPhone.
2. Open Explorer with the keystroke, Windows key + E, find Apple iPhone and press enter.
3. Select and open a folder named, Internal Storage, and open the, DCIM, folder.
4. The only folder I have here is, you may have more, 100Apple, and this is where my pictures are stored. Now copy / paste this folder to a flashdrive or whatever you want to, and you've successfully moved / saved a copy of your picture folder to the computer. Stay safe & take care. Mike.
Stay safe and take care. Mike. PSA Folks: You can still get gas for under a dollar fifty at Taco Bell! ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Gene Warner <mailto:genewarner3@...> *To:* JAWS support list <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Sent:* Monday, July 04, 2022 10:40 AM *Subject:* JAWS and Apple's iCloud?
Hi everyone!
I am trying to transfer all of my photos from my iPhone to my PC, but so far haven't had any luck. First, using Edge I logged into my Apple ID then went to my iCloud drive with no problems. Then when I tried to select my photos so I could download them, my iCloud drive seemed empty even though it was reporting having something like 78 photos. I even tried using the touch cursor but still had no luck.
Then I was told that I should install iCloud for Windows and it would download my photos for me, so I did. Now I not only find that I cannot access anything on my iCloud drive, the app won't stay loaded. It used to have a notification area icon but that never shows up any more even though all three startup programs that Apple installed are turned in the Windows 10 settings program.
So what do I do now? I know I could just email the pictures to myself, but with almost 80 photos, that would be quite tedious.
I thought Apple was committed to full accessibility for all of their products and I know that iCloud for Windows is an Apple product. Had I known that Apple would make it this difficult, I'd have emailed the photos to myself as soon as I took them.
Thanks! Gene...
|
|
If Be My Eyes added the feature to record our Be My Eyes sessions as a video, we could plug our phones into the computer and copy them off the phone to keep on the computer for later use. For those who didn't know that plugging your phone into your computer gives you access to the pictures and videos on the phone. Thus, if that app allowed us to save them, we could access them. Many Blind folks only use their phone's camera for the Blindness apps. Glenn
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2022 1:47 PM Subject: Re: JAWS and Apple's iCloud? Hi Glenn! I'm confused, what does recording Be My Eyes sessions have to do with iCloud accessibility and getting my photos off of my iPhone? I'm not criticizing, I'm just curious. Gene... On 7/4/2022 2:35 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote: I gave the suggestion to the makers of the Be My Eyes app that we be given the option to record the assistance, and of course the volunteer would be informed that it was recorded. This way we can plug the phone into the computer and get the video off the phone for later reference. This would be useful when having technology read to us for labeling of the controls. I have recorded assistance before with a separate recorder, and I let the volunteers know I'm recording it. Others who use Be My Eyes might let the makers of this app know if you would want this feature as well, as they would put a priority on this if they thought others wanted it as well.
Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2022 1:29 PM Subject: Re: JAWS and Apple's iCloud?
Hi Mike!
Oh man! If that works with my iPhone SE 2022, I will be so happy! Finally an accessible way to get my photos off my phone!
After some googling around I discovered that Sandisk makes a flash drive that they call iXpand which plugs into an iPhone to transfer your photos onto, then you plug it into a USB port on your computer to copy the photos to your computer. I was considering this approach if there was nothing else available.
I called Apple support about this accessibility problem an their position was that "Yes, they are committed to full accessibility for all of their products", but what isn't said is that that commitment only applies as long as you are using nothing but Apple products. Insert a non Apple product and nothing is guaranteed. To me that is not accessibility, to me accessibility should be platform agnostic. That being said, my next phone will be an Android phone and Apple can pound sand for all that I care! I simply cannot support a conditional accessibility statement like that.
Getting off my soapbox now...
Thanks! Gene...
On 7/4/2022 1:56 PM, Mike B. wrote:
Hi Gene, Here's how we transfer photos from our SE2020 iPhones to our computers running iOS14.8 and both Windows 7 & 10 operating systems using the Lightning to USB data / charging cable:
1. Plug the iPhone into the PC using the lightning / USB cable, and single finger double tap the Trust device option that pops up on your iPhone.
2. Open Explorer with the keystroke, Windows key + E, find Apple iPhone and press enter.
3. Select and open a folder named, Internal Storage, and open the, DCIM, folder.
4. The only folder I have here is, you may have more, 100Apple, and this is where my pictures are stored. Now copy / paste this folder to a flashdrive or whatever you want to, and you've successfully moved / saved a copy of your picture folder to the computer. Stay safe & take care. Mike.
Stay safe and take care. Mike. PSA Folks: You can still get gas for under a dollar fifty at Taco Bell! ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Gene Warner <mailto:genewarner3@...> *To:* JAWS support list <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Sent:* Monday, July 04, 2022 10:40 AM *Subject:* JAWS and Apple's iCloud?
Hi everyone!
I am trying to transfer all of my photos from my iPhone to my PC, but so far haven't had any luck. First, using Edge I logged into my Apple ID then went to my iCloud drive with no problems. Then when I tried to select my photos so I could download them, my iCloud drive seemed empty even though it was reporting having something like 78 photos. I even tried using the touch cursor but still had no luck.
Then I was told that I should install iCloud for Windows and it would download my photos for me, so I did. Now I not only find that I cannot access anything on my iCloud drive, the app won't stay loaded. It used to have a notification area icon but that never shows up any more even though all three startup programs that Apple installed are turned in the Windows 10 settings program.
So what do I do now? I know I could just email the pictures to myself, but with almost 80 photos, that would be quite tedious.
I thought Apple was committed to full accessibility for all of their products and I know that iCloud for Windows is an Apple product. Had I known that Apple would make it this difficult, I'd have emailed the photos to myself as soon as I took them.
Thanks! Gene...
|
|
Hi Glenn!
I'm confused, what does recording Be My Eyes sessions have to do with iCloud accessibility and getting my photos off of my iPhone? I'm not criticizing, I'm just curious.
Gene...
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On 7/4/2022 2:35 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote: I gave the suggestion to the makers of the Be My Eyes app that we be given the option to record the assistance, and of course the volunteer would be informed that it was recorded. This way we can plug the phone into the computer and get the video off the phone for later reference. This would be useful when having technology read to us for labeling of the controls. I have recorded assistance before with a separate recorder, and I let the volunteers know I'm recording it. Others who use Be My Eyes might let the makers of this app know if you would want this feature as well, as they would put a priority on this if they thought others wanted it as well. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2022 1:29 PM Subject: Re: JAWS and Apple's iCloud? Hi Mike! Oh man! If that works with my iPhone SE 2022, I will be so happy! Finally an accessible way to get my photos off my phone! After some googling around I discovered that Sandisk makes a flash drive that they call iXpand which plugs into an iPhone to transfer your photos onto, then you plug it into a USB port on your computer to copy the photos to your computer. I was considering this approach if there was nothing else available. I called Apple support about this accessibility problem an their position was that "Yes, they are committed to full accessibility for all of their products", but what isn't said is that that commitment only applies as long as you are using nothing but Apple products. Insert a non Apple product and nothing is guaranteed. To me that is not accessibility, to me accessibility should be platform agnostic. That being said, my next phone will be an Android phone and Apple can pound sand for all that I care! I simply cannot support a conditional accessibility statement like that. Getting off my soapbox now... Thanks! Gene... On 7/4/2022 1:56 PM, Mike B. wrote:
Hi Gene, Here's how we transfer photos from our SE2020 iPhones to our computers running iOS14.8 and both Windows 7 & 10 operating systems using the Lightning to USB data / charging cable:
1. Plug the iPhone into the PC using the lightning / USB cable, and single finger double tap the Trust device option that pops up on your iPhone.
2. Open Explorer with the keystroke, Windows key + E, find Apple iPhone and press enter.
3. Select and open a folder named, Internal Storage, and open the, DCIM, folder.
4. The only folder I have here is, you may have more, 100Apple, and this is where my pictures are stored. Now copy / paste this folder to a flashdrive or whatever you want to, and you've successfully moved / saved a copy of your picture folder to the computer. Stay safe & take care. Mike.
Stay safe and take care. Mike. PSA Folks: You can still get gas for under a dollar fifty at Taco Bell! ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Gene Warner <mailto:genewarner3@...> *To:* JAWS support list <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Sent:* Monday, July 04, 2022 10:40 AM *Subject:* JAWS and Apple's iCloud?
Hi everyone!
I am trying to transfer all of my photos from my iPhone to my PC, but so far haven't had any luck. First, using Edge I logged into my Apple ID then went to my iCloud drive with no problems. Then when I tried to select my photos so I could download them, my iCloud drive seemed empty even though it was reporting having something like 78 photos. I even tried using the touch cursor but still had no luck.
Then I was told that I should install iCloud for Windows and it would download my photos for me, so I did. Now I not only find that I cannot access anything on my iCloud drive, the app won't stay loaded. It used to have a notification area icon but that never shows up any more even though all three startup programs that Apple installed are turned in the Windows 10 settings program.
So what do I do now? I know I could just email the pictures to myself, but with almost 80 photos, that would be quite tedious.
I thought Apple was committed to full accessibility for all of their products and I know that iCloud for Windows is an Apple product. Had I known that Apple would make it this difficult, I'd have emailed the photos to myself as soon as I took them.
Thanks! Gene...
|
|
I gave the suggestion to the makers of the Be My Eyes app that we be given the option to record the assistance, and of course the volunteer would be informed that it was recorded. This way we can plug the phone into the computer and get the video off the phone for later reference. This would be useful when having technology read to us for labeling of the controls. I have recorded assistance before with a separate recorder, and I let the volunteers know I'm recording it. Others who use Be My Eyes might let the makers of this app know if you would want this feature as well, as they would put a priority on this if they thought others wanted it as well.
Glenn
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2022 1:29 PM Subject: Re: JAWS and Apple's iCloud? Hi Mike! Oh man! If that works with my iPhone SE 2022, I will be so happy! Finally an accessible way to get my photos off my phone! After some googling around I discovered that Sandisk makes a flash drive that they call iXpand which plugs into an iPhone to transfer your photos onto, then you plug it into a USB port on your computer to copy the photos to your computer. I was considering this approach if there was nothing else available. I called Apple support about this accessibility problem an their position was that "Yes, they are committed to full accessibility for all of their products", but what isn't said is that that commitment only applies as long as you are using nothing but Apple products. Insert a non Apple product and nothing is guaranteed. To me that is not accessibility, to me accessibility should be platform agnostic. That being said, my next phone will be an Android phone and Apple can pound sand for all that I care! I simply cannot support a conditional accessibility statement like that. Getting off my soapbox now... Thanks! Gene... On 7/4/2022 1:56 PM, Mike B. wrote: Hi Gene, Here's how we transfer photos from our SE2020 iPhones to our computers running iOS14.8 and both Windows 7 & 10 operating systems using the Lightning to USB data / charging cable:
1. Plug the iPhone into the PC using the lightning / USB cable, and single finger double tap the Trust device option that pops up on your iPhone.
2. Open Explorer with the keystroke, Windows key + E, find Apple iPhone and press enter.
3. Select and open a folder named, Internal Storage, and open the, DCIM, folder.
4. The only folder I have here is, you may have more, 100Apple, and this is where my pictures are stored. Now copy / paste this folder to a flashdrive or whatever you want to, and you've successfully moved / saved a copy of your picture folder to the computer. Stay safe & take care. Mike.
Stay safe and take care. Mike. PSA Folks: You can still get gas for under a dollar fifty at Taco Bell! ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Gene Warner <mailto:genewarner3@...> *To:* JAWS support list <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Sent:* Monday, July 04, 2022 10:40 AM *Subject:* JAWS and Apple's iCloud?
Hi everyone!
I am trying to transfer all of my photos from my iPhone to my PC, but so far haven't had any luck. First, using Edge I logged into my Apple ID then went to my iCloud drive with no problems. Then when I tried to select my photos so I could download them, my iCloud drive seemed empty even though it was reporting having something like 78 photos. I even tried using the touch cursor but still had no luck.
Then I was told that I should install iCloud for Windows and it would download my photos for me, so I did. Now I not only find that I cannot access anything on my iCloud drive, the app won't stay loaded. It used to have a notification area icon but that never shows up any more even though all three startup programs that Apple installed are turned in the Windows 10 settings program.
So what do I do now? I know I could just email the pictures to myself, but with almost 80 photos, that would be quite tedious.
I thought Apple was committed to full accessibility for all of their products and I know that iCloud for Windows is an Apple product. Had I known that Apple would make it this difficult, I'd have emailed the photos to myself as soon as I took them.
Thanks! Gene...
|
|
Hi Mike!
Oh man! If that works with my iPhone SE 2022, I will be so happy! Finally an accessible way to get my photos off my phone!
After some googling around I discovered that Sandisk makes a flash drive that they call iXpand which plugs into an iPhone to transfer your photos onto, then you plug it into a USB port on your computer to copy the photos to your computer. I was considering this approach if there was nothing else available.
I called Apple support about this accessibility problem an their position was that "Yes, they are committed to full accessibility for all of their products", but what isn't said is that that commitment only applies as long as you are using nothing but Apple products. Insert a non Apple product and nothing is guaranteed. To me that is not accessibility, to me accessibility should be platform agnostic. That being said, my next phone will be an Android phone and Apple can pound sand for all that I care! I simply cannot support a conditional accessibility statement like that.
Getting off my soapbox now...
Thanks! Gene...
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On 7/4/2022 1:56 PM, Mike B. wrote: Hi Gene, Here's how we transfer photos from our SE2020 iPhones to our computers running iOS14.8 and both Windows 7 & 10 operating systems using the Lightning to USB data / charging cable: 1. Plug the iPhone into the PC using the lightning / USB cable, and single finger double tap the Trust device option that pops up on your iPhone. 2. Open Explorer with the keystroke, Windows key + E, find Apple iPhone and press enter. 3. Select and open a folder named, Internal Storage, and open the, DCIM, folder. 4. The only folder I have here is, you may have more, 100Apple, and this is where my pictures are stored. Now copy / paste this folder to a flashdrive or whatever you want to, and you've successfully moved / saved a copy of your picture folder to the computer. Stay safe & take care. Mike. Stay safe and take care. Mike. PSA Folks: You can still get gas for under a dollar fifty at Taco Bell! ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Gene Warner <mailto:genewarner3@...> *To:* JAWS support list <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Sent:* Monday, July 04, 2022 10:40 AM *Subject:* JAWS and Apple's iCloud? Hi everyone! I am trying to transfer all of my photos from my iPhone to my PC, but so far haven't had any luck. First, using Edge I logged into my Apple ID then went to my iCloud drive with no problems. Then when I tried to select my photos so I could download them, my iCloud drive seemed empty even though it was reporting having something like 78 photos. I even tried using the touch cursor but still had no luck. Then I was told that I should install iCloud for Windows and it would download my photos for me, so I did. Now I not only find that I cannot access anything on my iCloud drive, the app won't stay loaded. It used to have a notification area icon but that never shows up any more even though all three startup programs that Apple installed are turned in the Windows 10 settings program. So what do I do now? I know I could just email the pictures to myself, but with almost 80 photos, that would be quite tedious. I thought Apple was committed to full accessibility for all of their products and I know that iCloud for Windows is an Apple product. Had I known that Apple would make it this difficult, I'd have emailed the photos to myself as soon as I took them. Thanks! Gene...
|
|
Hi Gene,
Here's how we transfer photos from our SE2020
iPhones to our computers running iOS14.8 and both Windows 7 & 10 operating
systems using the Lightning to USB data / charging cable: 1. Plug
the iPhone into the PC using the lightning / USB cable, and single finger double
tap the Trust device option that pops up on your iPhone. 2. Open
Explorer with the keystroke, Windows key + E, find Apple iPhone and press
enter. 3. Select and open a folder named, Internal Storage, and
open the, DCIM, folder. 4. The only folder I have here is, you may
have more, 100Apple, and this is where my pictures are stored. Now copy /
paste this folder to a flashdrive or whatever you want to, and you've
successfully moved / saved a copy of your picture folder to the
computer. Stay safe & take care.
Mike.
Stay safe and take care. Mike. PSA Folks: You can still get gas
for under a dollar fifty at Taco Bell!
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2022 10:40 AM
Subject: JAWS and Apple's iCloud?
Hi everyone! I am trying to transfer all of my photos from
my iPhone to my PC, but so far haven't had any luck. First, using Edge I
logged into my Apple ID then went to my iCloud drive with no problems. Then
when I tried to select my photos so I could download them, my iCloud drive
seemed empty even though it was reporting having something like 78 photos. I
even tried using the touch cursor but still had no luck. Then I was
told that I should install iCloud for Windows and it would download my
photos for me, so I did. Now I not only find that I cannot access anything
on my iCloud drive, the app won't stay loaded. It used to have a
notification area icon but that never shows up any more even though all
three startup programs that Apple installed are turned in the Windows 10
settings program. So what do I do now? I know I could just email the
pictures to myself, but with almost 80 photos, that would be quite
tedious. I thought Apple was committed to full accessibility for all of
their products and I know that iCloud for Windows is an Apple product. Had I
known that Apple would make it this difficult, I'd have emailed the
photos to myself as soon as I took
them. Thanks! Gene...
|
|
Hi everyone!
I am trying to transfer all of my photos from my iPhone to my PC, but so far haven't had any luck. First, using Edge I logged into my Apple ID then went to my iCloud drive with no problems. Then when I tried to select my photos so I could download them, my iCloud drive seemed empty even though it was reporting having something like 78 photos. I even tried using the touch cursor but still had no luck.
Then I was told that I should install iCloud for Windows and it would download my photos for me, so I did. Now I not only find that I cannot access anything on my iCloud drive, the app won't stay loaded. It used to have a notification area icon but that never shows up any more even though all three startup programs that Apple installed are turned in the Windows 10 settings program.
So what do I do now? I know I could just email the pictures to myself, but with almost 80 photos, that would be quite tedious.
I thought Apple was committed to full accessibility for all of their products and I know that iCloud for Windows is an Apple product. Had I known that Apple would make it this difficult, I'd have emailed the photos to myself as soon as I took them.
Thanks! Gene...
|
|