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Gerald Levy #103172 Contrary to its name, this list is apparently no longer limited to the discussion of topics directly related to JAWS and is very loosely moderated, if at all, and anything is now fair game. Gerald On 12/22/2022 12:30 PM, K0LNY wrote: toggle quoted message Show quoted text Well Gene, I could say what does informed delivery have to do with Jaws? Other than Jaws OCR is involved, which is not the problem with accessing it. Besides, you can use Jaws to access the playstore or app store to install Seeing AI to your device. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:25 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question What is this fixation on Seeing AI and what does it have to do with the Post Office's Informed Delivery service? Happy holidays! Gene... On 12/22/2022 12:09 PM, K0LNY wrote: I wonder if anyone has ever tried plugging in a USB camera, or even a bluetooth camera, to a Braille note and installed an Android app that uses the camera, such as Seeing AI? Braille Note Touch notetakers are just using Android, like a cell phone. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:00 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Seeing AI works on android and all tablets too. But it is good to know that the post office does this for folks without so called smart devices. Seeing AI is free in the app store or play store. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Well, that's great for you. I am not using an iPhone and so cannot use Seeing AI. Happy holidays! Gene... On 12/22/2022 11:48 AM, K0LNY wrote: I didn't know that they did this. I just use my iPhone and the seeing AI app to sort my mail. I mainly need to sort boxes, so I don't open my wife's boxes. I don't even have to touch the iPhone screen to do this, I just hold down the home button and say open seeing AI and the app opens and starts reading whatever text the phone is pointed at. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:43 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question I used to get those informed delivery emails too and I thought that they were great. But then all of a sudden these emails are full of what I consider to be unnecessary formatting tables and the scanned images are no where to be found. I assumed that the tables were done in such a way that JAWS could no longer find the scanned images inside the email. So I turned off informed delivery because it was no longer providing the services I signed up for. I then sent the post office a complaint about it but don't really expect them to do anything about it. Gene... On 12/22/2022 10:58 AM, Loy wrote: I have been getting a daily email with scanned images of the mail for the day. I could use picture smart on the scanned images and it would read the info on the image. Now I am getting the email and instead of a scanned image it just announces graphic that picture smart cannot read. Is everyone getting this same type message now? or is it just something with my email?Now I have to go to the web site and use picture smart there.
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K0LNY #103173 Now that I think about the Braille Note, I think they did come with a camera on them. Glenn toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Pietruk" <pietruk@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:42 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Gene Mail is a 2-way thing. It's not only how you or I view consider this issue but also the sender. Government agencies seem paranoid that a statement or an informing note might get into the wrong hands; and ever notice the disclaimers some law firms and financial institutions attach to their emails? And, as a quasi-government entity that the postal service is, they likely fall into that category too. Does anyone know how this process works? Is the scanning done at the recipeints local post office, by some central sorting facility; and, if you request this, what exactly get scanned and does there seem to be a delay in receiving mail. There are many small post offices with 1 or 2 people working on a giving day so I would hate to impose upon them yet another task to their workload. As for the app Glenn mentioned, wonder if it could be adapted for phones such as the Blindshell 2? Perhaps those who own these smart phones should ask if that is an app that could be added to their list or not.
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Brian Vogel #103174 On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 12:11 PM, Gerald Levy wrote: For security reasons, they decided to eliminate the scanned images from the Informed Delivery message - Er, no. I get them daily, and the images are still just like they always have been, at least if you can literally see them. I have no idea what has broken regarding accessibility of same for screen reader OCR. -- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045 If you cannot or will not imagine the results of your actions, there’s no way you can act morally or responsibly. Little kids can’t do it; babies are morally monsters — completely greedy. Their imagination has to be trained into foresight and empathy. ~ Ursula LeGuin, 2005 Interview in The Guardian
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Joseph Machise #103175 glenn Seeing AI won't work on a computer will it? toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 12:30 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Well Gene, I could say what does informed delivery have to do with Jaws? Other than Jaws OCR is involved, which is not the problem with accessing it. Besides, you can use Jaws to access the playstore or app store to install Seeing AI to your device. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:25 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question What is this fixation on Seeing AI and what does it have to do with the Post Office's Informed Delivery service? Happy holidays! Gene... On 12/22/2022 12:09 PM, K0LNY wrote: I wonder if anyone has ever tried plugging in a USB camera, or even a bluetooth camera, to a Braille note and installed an Android app that uses the camera, such as Seeing AI? Braille Note Touch notetakers are just using Android, like a cell phone. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:00 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Seeing AI works on android and all tablets too. But it is good to know that the post office does this for folks without so called smart devices. Seeing AI is free in the app store or play store. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Well, that's great for you. I am not using an iPhone and so cannot use Seeing AI. Happy holidays! Gene... On 12/22/2022 11:48 AM, K0LNY wrote: I didn't know that they did this. I just use my iPhone and the seeing AI app to sort my mail. I mainly need to sort boxes, so I don't open my wife's boxes. I don't even have to touch the iPhone screen to do this, I just hold down the home button and say open seeing AI and the app opens and starts reading whatever text the phone is pointed at. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:43 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question I used to get those informed delivery emails too and I thought that they were great. But then all of a sudden these emails are full of what I consider to be unnecessary formatting tables and the scanned images are no where to be found. I assumed that the tables were done in such a way that JAWS could no longer find the scanned images inside the email. So I turned off informed delivery because it was no longer providing the services I signed up for. I then sent the post office a complaint about it but don't really expect them to do anything about it. Gene... On 12/22/2022 10:58 AM, Loy wrote: I have been getting a daily email with scanned images of the mail for the day. I could use picture smart on the scanned images and it would read the info on the image. Now I am getting the email and instead of a scanned image it just announces graphic that picture smart cannot read. Is everyone getting this same type message now? or is it just something with my email?Now I have to go to the web site and use picture smart there.
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K0LNY #103176 I don't think so, unless you can use VmWare and install Android in VmWare, and then install it from the play store. But you can run the seeing with sound program on your computer, which sonifies the environment where the camera is seeing, and it also does OCR. That runs in windows, but you need a camera attached to the computer. Here's a link to the program that installs into windows, from my open drive, it's called vOICe.exe It is an older version of the program, and I think you have to toggle OCR on/off with a hotkey or from the menus. It is mainly used to use sound to trace the outline of what the camera is seeing, so for that, it's best done with headphones. https://od.lk/d/N18yMDAwNjY2NjJf/voice.exe toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question glenn Seeing AI won't work on a computer will it? ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 12:30 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Well Gene, I could say what does informed delivery have to do with Jaws? Other than Jaws OCR is involved, which is not the problem with accessing it. Besides, you can use Jaws to access the playstore or app store to install Seeing AI to your device. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:25 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question What is this fixation on Seeing AI and what does it have to do with the Post Office's Informed Delivery service? Happy holidays! Gene... On 12/22/2022 12:09 PM, K0LNY wrote: I wonder if anyone has ever tried plugging in a USB camera, or even a bluetooth camera, to a Braille note and installed an Android app that uses the camera, such as Seeing AI? Braille Note Touch notetakers are just using Android, like a cell phone. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:00 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Seeing AI works on android and all tablets too. But it is good to know that the post office does this for folks without so called smart devices. Seeing AI is free in the app store or play store. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Well, that's great for you. I am not using an iPhone and so cannot use Seeing AI. Happy holidays! Gene... On 12/22/2022 11:48 AM, K0LNY wrote: I didn't know that they did this. I just use my iPhone and the seeing AI app to sort my mail. I mainly need to sort boxes, so I don't open my wife's boxes. I don't even have to touch the iPhone screen to do this, I just hold down the home button and say open seeing AI and the app opens and starts reading whatever text the phone is pointed at. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:43 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question I used to get those informed delivery emails too and I thought that they were great. But then all of a sudden these emails are full of what I consider to be unnecessary formatting tables and the scanned images are no where to be found. I assumed that the tables were done in such a way that JAWS could no longer find the scanned images inside the email. So I turned off informed delivery because it was no longer providing the services I signed up for. I then sent the post office a complaint about it but don't really expect them to do anything about it. Gene... On 12/22/2022 10:58 AM, Loy wrote: I have been getting a daily email with scanned images of the mail for the day. I could use picture smart on the scanned images and it would read the info on the image. Now I am getting the email and instead of a scanned image it just announces graphic that picture smart cannot read. Is everyone getting this same type message now? or is it just something with my email?Now I have to go to the web site and use picture smart there.
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Joseph Machise #103177 my computer won't install VM ware toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 4:20 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question I don't think so, unless you can use VmWare and install Android in VmWare, and then install it from the play store. But you can run the seeing with sound program on your computer, which sonifies the environment where the camera is seeing, and it also does OCR. That runs in windows, but you need a camera attached to the computer. Here's a link to the program that installs into windows, from my open drive, it's called vOICe.exe It is an older version of the program, and I think you have to toggle OCR on/off with a hotkey or from the menus. It is mainly used to use sound to trace the outline of what the camera is seeing, so for that, it's best done with headphones. https://od.lk/d/N18yMDAwNjY2NjJf/voice.exe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question glenn Seeing AI won't work on a computer will it? ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 12:30 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Well Gene, I could say what does informed delivery have to do with Jaws? Other than Jaws OCR is involved, which is not the problem with accessing it. Besides, you can use Jaws to access the playstore or app store to install Seeing AI to your device. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:25 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question What is this fixation on Seeing AI and what does it have to do with the Post Office's Informed Delivery service? Happy holidays! Gene... On 12/22/2022 12:09 PM, K0LNY wrote: I wonder if anyone has ever tried plugging in a USB camera, or even a bluetooth camera, to a Braille note and installed an Android app that uses the camera, such as Seeing AI? Braille Note Touch notetakers are just using Android, like a cell phone. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:00 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Seeing AI works on android and all tablets too. But it is good to know that the post office does this for folks without so called smart devices. Seeing AI is free in the app store or play store. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Well, that's great for you. I am not using an iPhone and so cannot use Seeing AI. Happy holidays! Gene... On 12/22/2022 11:48 AM, K0LNY wrote: I didn't know that they did this. I just use my iPhone and the seeing AI app to sort my mail. I mainly need to sort boxes, so I don't open my wife's boxes. I don't even have to touch the iPhone screen to do this, I just hold down the home button and say open seeing AI and the app opens and starts reading whatever text the phone is pointed at. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:43 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question I used to get those informed delivery emails too and I thought that they were great. But then all of a sudden these emails are full of what I consider to be unnecessary formatting tables and the scanned images are no where to be found. I assumed that the tables were done in such a way that JAWS could no longer find the scanned images inside the email. So I turned off informed delivery because it was no longer providing the services I signed up for. I then sent the post office a complaint about it but don't really expect them to do anything about it. Gene... On 12/22/2022 10:58 AM, Loy wrote: I have been getting a daily email with scanned images of the mail for the day. I could use picture smart on the scanned images and it would read the info on the image. Now I am getting the email and instead of a scanned image it just announces graphic that picture smart cannot read. Is everyone getting this same type message now? or is it just something with my email?Now I have to go to the web site and use picture smart there.
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K0LNY #103178 I know, when you get another, make sure it will run a hyper visor before you buy it. VmWare and others like it are called a HyperVisor. toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 3:33 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question my computer won't install VM ware ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 4:20 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question I don't think so, unless you can use VmWare and install Android in VmWare, and then install it from the play store. But you can run the seeing with sound program on your computer, which sonifies the environment where the camera is seeing, and it also does OCR. That runs in windows, but you need a camera attached to the computer. Here's a link to the program that installs into windows, from my open drive, it's called vOICe.exe It is an older version of the program, and I think you have to toggle OCR on/off with a hotkey or from the menus. It is mainly used to use sound to trace the outline of what the camera is seeing, so for that, it's best done with headphones. https://od.lk/d/N18yMDAwNjY2NjJf/voice.exe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question glenn Seeing AI won't work on a computer will it? ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 12:30 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Well Gene, I could say what does informed delivery have to do with Jaws? Other than Jaws OCR is involved, which is not the problem with accessing it. Besides, you can use Jaws to access the playstore or app store to install Seeing AI to your device. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:25 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question What is this fixation on Seeing AI and what does it have to do with the Post Office's Informed Delivery service? Happy holidays! Gene... On 12/22/2022 12:09 PM, K0LNY wrote: I wonder if anyone has ever tried plugging in a USB camera, or even a bluetooth camera, to a Braille note and installed an Android app that uses the camera, such as Seeing AI? Braille Note Touch notetakers are just using Android, like a cell phone. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:00 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Seeing AI works on android and all tablets too. But it is good to know that the post office does this for folks without so called smart devices. Seeing AI is free in the app store or play store. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Well, that's great for you. I am not using an iPhone and so cannot use Seeing AI. Happy holidays! Gene... On 12/22/2022 11:48 AM, K0LNY wrote: I didn't know that they did this. I just use my iPhone and the seeing AI app to sort my mail. I mainly need to sort boxes, so I don't open my wife's boxes. I don't even have to touch the iPhone screen to do this, I just hold down the home button and say open seeing AI and the app opens and starts reading whatever text the phone is pointed at. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:43 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question I used to get those informed delivery emails too and I thought that they were great. But then all of a sudden these emails are full of what I consider to be unnecessary formatting tables and the scanned images are no where to be found. I assumed that the tables were done in such a way that JAWS could no longer find the scanned images inside the email. So I turned off informed delivery because it was no longer providing the services I signed up for. I then sent the post office a complaint about it but don't really expect them to do anything about it. Gene... On 12/22/2022 10:58 AM, Loy wrote: I have been getting a daily email with scanned images of the mail for the day. I could use picture smart on the scanned images and it would read the info on the image. Now I am getting the email and instead of a scanned image it just announces graphic that picture smart cannot read. Is everyone getting this same type message now? or is it just something with my email?Now I have to go to the web site and use picture smart there.
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Joseph Machise #103179 how do I no that. toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 4:38 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question I know, when you get another, make sure it will run a hyper visor before you buy it. VmWare and others like it are called a HyperVisor. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 3:33 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question my computer won't install VM ware ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 4:20 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question I don't think so, unless you can use VmWare and install Android in VmWare, and then install it from the play store. But you can run the seeing with sound program on your computer, which sonifies the environment where the camera is seeing, and it also does OCR. That runs in windows, but you need a camera attached to the computer. Here's a link to the program that installs into windows, from my open drive, it's called vOICe.exe It is an older version of the program, and I think you have to toggle OCR on/off with a hotkey or from the menus. It is mainly used to use sound to trace the outline of what the camera is seeing, so for that, it's best done with headphones. https://od.lk/d/N18yMDAwNjY2NjJf/voice.exe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question glenn Seeing AI won't work on a computer will it? ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 12:30 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Well Gene, I could say what does informed delivery have to do with Jaws? Other than Jaws OCR is involved, which is not the problem with accessing it. Besides, you can use Jaws to access the playstore or app store to install Seeing AI to your device. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:25 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question What is this fixation on Seeing AI and what does it have to do with the Post Office's Informed Delivery service? Happy holidays! Gene... On 12/22/2022 12:09 PM, K0LNY wrote: I wonder if anyone has ever tried plugging in a USB camera, or even a bluetooth camera, to a Braille note and installed an Android app that uses the camera, such as Seeing AI? Braille Note Touch notetakers are just using Android, like a cell phone. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:00 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Seeing AI works on android and all tablets too. But it is good to know that the post office does this for folks without so called smart devices. Seeing AI is free in the app store or play store. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Well, that's great for you. I am not using an iPhone and so cannot use Seeing AI. Happy holidays! Gene... On 12/22/2022 11:48 AM, K0LNY wrote: I didn't know that they did this. I just use my iPhone and the seeing AI app to sort my mail. I mainly need to sort boxes, so I don't open my wife's boxes. I don't even have to touch the iPhone screen to do this, I just hold down the home button and say open seeing AI and the app opens and starts reading whatever text the phone is pointed at. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:43 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question I used to get those informed delivery emails too and I thought that they were great. But then all of a sudden these emails are full of what I consider to be unnecessary formatting tables and the scanned images are no where to be found. I assumed that the tables were done in such a way that JAWS could no longer find the scanned images inside the email. So I turned off informed delivery because it was no longer providing the services I signed up for. I then sent the post office a complaint about it but don't really expect them to do anything about it. Gene... On 12/22/2022 10:58 AM, Loy wrote: I have been getting a daily email with scanned images of the mail for the day. I could use picture smart on the scanned images and it would read the info on the image. Now I am getting the email and instead of a scanned image it just announces graphic that picture smart cannot read. Is everyone getting this same type message now? or is it just something with my email?Now I have to go to the web site and use picture smart there.
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K0LNY #103180 You have to ask the seller of the computer. toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 3:39 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question how do I no that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 4:38 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question I know, when you get another, make sure it will run a hyper visor before you buy it. VmWare and others like it are called a HyperVisor. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 3:33 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question my computer won't install VM ware ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 4:20 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question I don't think so, unless you can use VmWare and install Android in VmWare, and then install it from the play store. But you can run the seeing with sound program on your computer, which sonifies the environment where the camera is seeing, and it also does OCR. That runs in windows, but you need a camera attached to the computer. Here's a link to the program that installs into windows, from my open drive, it's called vOICe.exe It is an older version of the program, and I think you have to toggle OCR on/off with a hotkey or from the menus. It is mainly used to use sound to trace the outline of what the camera is seeing, so for that, it's best done with headphones. https://od.lk/d/N18yMDAwNjY2NjJf/voice.exe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question glenn Seeing AI won't work on a computer will it? ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 12:30 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Well Gene, I could say what does informed delivery have to do with Jaws? Other than Jaws OCR is involved, which is not the problem with accessing it. Besides, you can use Jaws to access the playstore or app store to install Seeing AI to your device. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:25 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question What is this fixation on Seeing AI and what does it have to do with the Post Office's Informed Delivery service? Happy holidays! Gene... On 12/22/2022 12:09 PM, K0LNY wrote: I wonder if anyone has ever tried plugging in a USB camera, or even a bluetooth camera, to a Braille note and installed an Android app that uses the camera, such as Seeing AI? Braille Note Touch notetakers are just using Android, like a cell phone. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:00 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Seeing AI works on android and all tablets too. But it is good to know that the post office does this for folks without so called smart devices. Seeing AI is free in the app store or play store. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Well, that's great for you. I am not using an iPhone and so cannot use Seeing AI. Happy holidays! Gene... On 12/22/2022 11:48 AM, K0LNY wrote: I didn't know that they did this. I just use my iPhone and the seeing AI app to sort my mail. I mainly need to sort boxes, so I don't open my wife's boxes. I don't even have to touch the iPhone screen to do this, I just hold down the home button and say open seeing AI and the app opens and starts reading whatever text the phone is pointed at. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:43 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question I used to get those informed delivery emails too and I thought that they were great. But then all of a sudden these emails are full of what I consider to be unnecessary formatting tables and the scanned images are no where to be found. I assumed that the tables were done in such a way that JAWS could no longer find the scanned images inside the email. So I turned off informed delivery because it was no longer providing the services I signed up for. I then sent the post office a complaint about it but don't really expect them to do anything about it. Gene... On 12/22/2022 10:58 AM, Loy wrote: I have been getting a daily email with scanned images of the mail for the day. I could use picture smart on the scanned images and it would read the info on the image. Now I am getting the email and instead of a scanned image it just announces graphic that picture smart cannot read. Is everyone getting this same type message now? or is it just something with my email?Now I have to go to the web site and use picture smart there.
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Joseph Machise #103181 will most computers run hyper visor toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 4:40 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question You have to ask the seller of the computer. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 3:39 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question how do I no that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 4:38 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question I know, when you get another, make sure it will run a hyper visor before you buy it. VmWare and others like it are called a HyperVisor. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 3:33 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question my computer won't install VM ware ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 4:20 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question I don't think so, unless you can use VmWare and install Android in VmWare, and then install it from the play store. But you can run the seeing with sound program on your computer, which sonifies the environment where the camera is seeing, and it also does OCR. That runs in windows, but you need a camera attached to the computer. Here's a link to the program that installs into windows, from my open drive, it's called vOICe.exe It is an older version of the program, and I think you have to toggle OCR on/off with a hotkey or from the menus. It is mainly used to use sound to trace the outline of what the camera is seeing, so for that, it's best done with headphones. https://od.lk/d/N18yMDAwNjY2NjJf/voice.exe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question glenn Seeing AI won't work on a computer will it? ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 12:30 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Well Gene, I could say what does informed delivery have to do with Jaws? Other than Jaws OCR is involved, which is not the problem with accessing it. Besides, you can use Jaws to access the playstore or app store to install Seeing AI to your device. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:25 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question What is this fixation on Seeing AI and what does it have to do with the Post Office's Informed Delivery service? Happy holidays! Gene... On 12/22/2022 12:09 PM, K0LNY wrote: I wonder if anyone has ever tried plugging in a USB camera, or even a bluetooth camera, to a Braille note and installed an Android app that uses the camera, such as Seeing AI? Braille Note Touch notetakers are just using Android, like a cell phone. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:00 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Seeing AI works on android and all tablets too. But it is good to know that the post office does this for folks without so called smart devices. Seeing AI is free in the app store or play store. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Well, that's great for you. I am not using an iPhone and so cannot use Seeing AI. Happy holidays! Gene... On 12/22/2022 11:48 AM, K0LNY wrote: I didn't know that they did this. I just use my iPhone and the seeing AI app to sort my mail. I mainly need to sort boxes, so I don't open my wife's boxes. I don't even have to touch the iPhone screen to do this, I just hold down the home button and say open seeing AI and the app opens and starts reading whatever text the phone is pointed at. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:43 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question I used to get those informed delivery emails too and I thought that they were great. But then all of a sudden these emails are full of what I consider to be unnecessary formatting tables and the scanned images are no where to be found. I assumed that the tables were done in such a way that JAWS could no longer find the scanned images inside the email. So I turned off informed delivery because it was no longer providing the services I signed up for. I then sent the post office a complaint about it but don't really expect them to do anything about it. Gene... On 12/22/2022 10:58 AM, Loy wrote: I have been getting a daily email with scanned images of the mail for the day. I could use picture smart on the scanned images and it would read the info on the image. Now I am getting the email and instead of a scanned image it just announces graphic that picture smart cannot read. Is everyone getting this same type message now? or is it just something with my email?Now I have to go to the web site and use picture smart there.
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K0LNY #103182 I think most will, in fact, older computers than yours will too, I don't know why HP didn't make that a feature on yours. toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 3:42 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question will most computers run hyper visor ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 4:40 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question You have to ask the seller of the computer. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 3:39 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question how do I no that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 4:38 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question I know, when you get another, make sure it will run a hyper visor before you buy it. VmWare and others like it are called a HyperVisor. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 3:33 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question my computer won't install VM ware ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 4:20 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question I don't think so, unless you can use VmWare and install Android in VmWare, and then install it from the play store. But you can run the seeing with sound program on your computer, which sonifies the environment where the camera is seeing, and it also does OCR. That runs in windows, but you need a camera attached to the computer. Here's a link to the program that installs into windows, from my open drive, it's called vOICe.exe It is an older version of the program, and I think you have to toggle OCR on/off with a hotkey or from the menus. It is mainly used to use sound to trace the outline of what the camera is seeing, so for that, it's best done with headphones. https://od.lk/d/N18yMDAwNjY2NjJf/voice.exe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question glenn Seeing AI won't work on a computer will it? ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 12:30 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Well Gene, I could say what does informed delivery have to do with Jaws? Other than Jaws OCR is involved, which is not the problem with accessing it. Besides, you can use Jaws to access the playstore or app store to install Seeing AI to your device. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:25 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question What is this fixation on Seeing AI and what does it have to do with the Post Office's Informed Delivery service? Happy holidays! Gene... On 12/22/2022 12:09 PM, K0LNY wrote: I wonder if anyone has ever tried plugging in a USB camera, or even a bluetooth camera, to a Braille note and installed an Android app that uses the camera, such as Seeing AI? Braille Note Touch notetakers are just using Android, like a cell phone. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:00 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Seeing AI works on android and all tablets too. But it is good to know that the post office does this for folks without so called smart devices. Seeing AI is free in the app store or play store. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Well, that's great for you. I am not using an iPhone and so cannot use Seeing AI. Happy holidays! Gene... On 12/22/2022 11:48 AM, K0LNY wrote: I didn't know that they did this. I just use my iPhone and the seeing AI app to sort my mail. I mainly need to sort boxes, so I don't open my wife's boxes. I don't even have to touch the iPhone screen to do this, I just hold down the home button and say open seeing AI and the app opens and starts reading whatever text the phone is pointed at. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:43 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question I used to get those informed delivery emails too and I thought that they were great. But then all of a sudden these emails are full of what I consider to be unnecessary formatting tables and the scanned images are no where to be found. I assumed that the tables were done in such a way that JAWS could no longer find the scanned images inside the email. So I turned off informed delivery because it was no longer providing the services I signed up for. I then sent the post office a complaint about it but don't really expect them to do anything about it. Gene... On 12/22/2022 10:58 AM, Loy wrote: I have been getting a daily email with scanned images of the mail for the day. I could use picture smart on the scanned images and it would read the info on the image. Now I am getting the email and instead of a scanned image it just announces graphic that picture smart cannot read. Is everyone getting this same type message now? or is it just something with my email?Now I have to go to the web site and use picture smart there.
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Joseph Machise #103183 either do I toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 4:44 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question I think most will, in fact, older computers than yours will too, I don't know why HP didn't make that a feature on yours. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 3:42 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question will most computers run hyper visor ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 4:40 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question You have to ask the seller of the computer. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 3:39 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question how do I no that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 4:38 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question I know, when you get another, make sure it will run a hyper visor before you buy it. VmWare and others like it are called a HyperVisor. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 3:33 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question my computer won't install VM ware ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 4:20 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question I don't think so, unless you can use VmWare and install Android in VmWare, and then install it from the play store. But you can run the seeing with sound program on your computer, which sonifies the environment where the camera is seeing, and it also does OCR. That runs in windows, but you need a camera attached to the computer. Here's a link to the program that installs into windows, from my open drive, it's called vOICe.exe It is an older version of the program, and I think you have to toggle OCR on/off with a hotkey or from the menus. It is mainly used to use sound to trace the outline of what the camera is seeing, so for that, it's best done with headphones. https://od.lk/d/N18yMDAwNjY2NjJf/voice.exe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question glenn Seeing AI won't work on a computer will it? ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 12:30 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Well Gene, I could say what does informed delivery have to do with Jaws? Other than Jaws OCR is involved, which is not the problem with accessing it. Besides, you can use Jaws to access the playstore or app store to install Seeing AI to your device. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:25 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question What is this fixation on Seeing AI and what does it have to do with the Post Office's Informed Delivery service? Happy holidays! Gene... On 12/22/2022 12:09 PM, K0LNY wrote: I wonder if anyone has ever tried plugging in a USB camera, or even a bluetooth camera, to a Braille note and installed an Android app that uses the camera, such as Seeing AI? Braille Note Touch notetakers are just using Android, like a cell phone. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:00 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Seeing AI works on android and all tablets too. But it is good to know that the post office does this for folks without so called smart devices. Seeing AI is free in the app store or play store. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Well, that's great for you. I am not using an iPhone and so cannot use Seeing AI. Happy holidays! Gene... On 12/22/2022 11:48 AM, K0LNY wrote: I didn't know that they did this. I just use my iPhone and the seeing AI app to sort my mail. I mainly need to sort boxes, so I don't open my wife's boxes. I don't even have to touch the iPhone screen to do this, I just hold down the home button and say open seeing AI and the app opens and starts reading whatever text the phone is pointed at. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:43 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question I used to get those informed delivery emails too and I thought that they were great. But then all of a sudden these emails are full of what I consider to be unnecessary formatting tables and the scanned images are no where to be found. I assumed that the tables were done in such a way that JAWS could no longer find the scanned images inside the email. So I turned off informed delivery because it was no longer providing the services I signed up for. I then sent the post office a complaint about it but don't really expect them to do anything about it. Gene... On 12/22/2022 10:58 AM, Loy wrote: I have been getting a daily email with scanned images of the mail for the day. I could use picture smart on the scanned images and it would read the info on the image. Now I am getting the email and instead of a scanned image it just announces graphic that picture smart cannot read. Is everyone getting this same type message now? or is it just something with my email?Now I have to go to the web site and use picture smart there.
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Loy #103185 It does not install on a computer, but can be used to read the text on the screen. toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 4:12 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question glenn Seeing AI won't work on a computer will it? ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 12:30 PM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Well Gene, I could say what does informed delivery have to do with Jaws? Other than Jaws OCR is involved, which is not the problem with accessing it. Besides, you can use Jaws to access the playstore or app store to install Seeing AI to your device. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:25 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question What is this fixation on Seeing AI and what does it have to do with the Post Office's Informed Delivery service? Happy holidays! Gene... On 12/22/2022 12:09 PM, K0LNY wrote: I wonder if anyone has ever tried plugging in a USB camera, or even a bluetooth camera, to a Braille note and installed an Android app that uses the camera, such as Seeing AI? Braille Note Touch notetakers are just using Android, like a cell phone. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:00 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Seeing AI works on android and all tablets too. But it is good to know that the post office does this for folks without so called smart devices. Seeing AI is free in the app store or play store. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Well, that's great for you. I am not using an iPhone and so cannot use Seeing AI. Happy holidays! Gene... On 12/22/2022 11:48 AM, K0LNY wrote: I didn't know that they did this. I just use my iPhone and the seeing AI app to sort my mail. I mainly need to sort boxes, so I don't open my wife's boxes. I don't even have to touch the iPhone screen to do this, I just hold down the home button and say open seeing AI and the app opens and starts reading whatever text the phone is pointed at. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:43 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question I used to get those informed delivery emails too and I thought that they were great. But then all of a sudden these emails are full of what I consider to be unnecessary formatting tables and the scanned images are no where to be found. I assumed that the tables were done in such a way that JAWS could no longer find the scanned images inside the email. So I turned off informed delivery because it was no longer providing the services I signed up for. I then sent the post office a complaint about it but don't really expect them to do anything about it. Gene... On 12/22/2022 10:58 AM, Loy wrote: I have been getting a daily email with scanned images of the mail for the day. I could use picture smart on the scanned images and it would read the info on the image. Now I am getting the email and instead of a scanned image it just announces graphic that picture smart cannot read. Is everyone getting this same type message now? or is it just something with my email?Now I have to go to the web site and use picture smart there.
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Katrina Anderson #103188 Thank you so much Gerald for sharing! For the first time since I signed up for Informed Delivery, I finally had success. Before, I’m pretty sure I only tried accessing the information from within the message in Outlook, but my memory isn’t great, so who knows maybe I did try via the website. Even though I didn’t know about content, I chose to keep getting alerts as it notified me mail was expected and I could take the long walk to retrieve. Anyway, on my Windows 10 laptop with current versions of everything including JAWS & Chrome, I had to add a couple of steps that you didn’t mention. For example, after signing in, the find command couldn’t find “scan”; I had to do a couple of things before searching for “scan”. Also, when in the Picture Smart process, it was necessary to click on “more” to get the description. I appreciate the nudge to try again. Katrina toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:26 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Yes, the US Postal Service, in its infinite wisdom, decided to eliminate the scanned images of each piece of mail from the informed delivery message. You must now click on the mail dashboard link in the message to access the Informed Delivery site and log in to your account in order to use JAWS Picture Smart. Once you have logged in, use the JAWS Find command, Control-F for the word ,"scan" to locate each occurrence of "scanned image of your mail piece", and for each occurrence, press JAWS key, Space bar, followed by P, then C to invoke Picture Smart and have JAWS read the text on the mail piece Gerald On 12/22/2022 10:58 AM, Loy wrote: I have been getting a daily email with scanned images of the mail for the day. I could use picture smart on the scanned images and it would read the info on the image. Now I am getting the email and instead of a scanned image it just announces graphic that picture smart cannot read. Is everyone getting this same type message now? or is it just something with my email?Now I have to go to the web site and use picture smart there.
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Kimsan #103193 I’m going to try that now, what Jerald said. I usually access information from the iPhone but always wanted to try it using the shark. -- Best regards, Kimsan Song Kimsan_song@... toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Katrina Anderson Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 7:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Thank you so much Gerald for sharing! For the first time since I signed up for Informed Delivery, I finally had success. Before, I’m pretty sure I only tried accessing the information from within the message in Outlook, but my memory isn’t great, so who knows maybe I did try via the website. Even though I didn’t know about content, I chose to keep getting alerts as it notified me mail was expected and I could take the long walk to retrieve. Anyway, on my Windows 10 laptop with current versions of everything including JAWS & Chrome, I had to add a couple of steps that you didn’t mention. For example, after signing in, the find command couldn’t find “scan”; I had to do a couple of things before searching for “scan”. Also, when in the Picture Smart process, it was necessary to click on “more” to get the description. I appreciate the nudge to try again. Katrina From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:26 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Yes, the US Postal Service, in its infinite wisdom, decided to eliminate the scanned images of each piece of mail from the informed delivery message. You must now click on the mail dashboard link in the message to access the Informed Delivery site and log in to your account in order to use JAWS Picture Smart. Once you have logged in, use the JAWS Find command, Control-F for the word ,"scan" to locate each occurrence of "scanned image of your mail piece", and for each occurrence, press JAWS key, Space bar, followed by P, then C to invoke Picture Smart and have JAWS read the text on the mail piece Gerald On 12/22/2022 10:58 AM, Loy wrote: I have been getting a daily email with scanned images of the mail for the day. I could use picture smart on the scanned images and it would read the info on the image. Now I am getting the email and instead of a scanned image it just announces graphic that picture smart cannot read. Is everyone getting this same type message now? or is it just something with my email?Now I have to go to the web site and use picture smart there.
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