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Moderated Informed daily delivery question
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Loy
I have been getting a daily email with scanned
images of the mail for the day. I could use picture smart on the scanned images
and it would read the info on the image. Now I am getting the email and instead
of a scanned image it just announces graphic that picture smart cannot read. Is
everyone getting this same type message now? or is it just something with my
email?Now I have to go to the web site and use picture smart
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Don H
Yes getting the same thing here. Not sure why they changed it.
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On 12/22/2022 9:58 AM, Loy wrote:
I have been getting a daily email with scanned images of the mail for the day. I could use picture smart on the scanned images and it would read the info on the image. Now I am getting the email and instead of a scanned image it just announces graphic that picture smart cannot read. Is everyone getting this same type message now? or is it just something with my email?Now I have to go to the web site and use picture smart there. |
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Gerald Levy
Yes, the US Postal
Service, in its infinite wisdom, decided to eliminate the
scanned images of each piece of mail from the informed delivery
message. You must now click on the mail dashboard link in the
message to access the Informed Delivery site and log in to your
account in order to use JAWS Picture Smart. Once you have
logged in, use the JAWS Find command, Control-F for the word
,"scan" to locate each occurrence of "scanned image of your mail
piece", and for each occurrence, press JAWS key, Space bar,
followed by P, then C to invoke Picture Smart and have JAWS read
the text on the mail piece
Gerald
On 12/22/2022 10:58 AM, Loy wrote:
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Mike Pietruk
Perhaps, and I'm only guessing, that some customers complained that making
mail content delivered via email presented a security risk. I've noticed that some entities that use 3rd level security confirmations have eliminated emailing codes as an available option. Just guessing. |
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Gene Warner
I used to get those informed delivery emails too and I thought that they were great. But then all of a sudden these emails are full of what I consider to be unnecessary formatting tables and the scanned images are no where to be found. I assumed that the tables were done in such a way that JAWS could no longer find the scanned images inside the email.
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So I turned off informed delivery because it was no longer providing the services I signed up for. I then sent the post office a complaint about it but don't really expect them to do anything about it. Gene... On 12/22/2022 10:58 AM, Loy wrote:
I have been getting a daily email with scanned images of the mail for the day. I could use picture smart on the scanned images and it would read the info on the image. Now I am getting the email and instead of a scanned image it just announces graphic that picture smart cannot read. Is everyone getting this same type message now? or is it just something with my email?Now I have to go to the web site and use picture smart there. |
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K0LNY
I didn't know that they did this.
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I just use my iPhone and the seeing AI app to sort my mail. I mainly need to sort boxes, so I don't open my wife's boxes. I don't even have to touch the iPhone screen to do this, I just hold down the home button and say open seeing AI and the app opens and starts reading whatever text the phone is pointed at. Glenn ----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:43 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question I used to get those informed delivery emails too and I thought that they were great. But then all of a sudden these emails are full of what I consider to be unnecessary formatting tables and the scanned images are no where to be found. I assumed that the tables were done in such a way that JAWS could no longer find the scanned images inside the email. So I turned off informed delivery because it was no longer providing the services I signed up for. I then sent the post office a complaint about it but don't really expect them to do anything about it. Gene... On 12/22/2022 10:58 AM, Loy wrote: I have been getting a daily email with scanned images of the mail for |
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Gene Warner
Well, that's great for you. I am not using an iPhone and so cannot use Seeing AI.
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Happy holidays! Gene... On 12/22/2022 11:48 AM, K0LNY wrote:
I didn't know that they did this. |
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K0LNY
Seeing AI works on android and all tablets too.
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But it is good to know that the post office does this for folks without so called smart devices. Seeing AI is free in the app store or play store. Glenn ----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Well, that's great for you. I am not using an iPhone and so cannot use Seeing AI. Happy holidays! Gene... On 12/22/2022 11:48 AM, K0LNY wrote: I didn't know that they did this. |
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Steve Matzura
Nope, you didn't break anything; they did. It's been like this for almost two weeks. Funny though, those images show up when I read the same emails with Mail on iOS. Wonder how they broke this. Sure wish they'd fix it.
On 12/22/2022 10:58 AM, Loy wrote:
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Steve Matzura
But the information is still there. See my previous message about readability in iOS.
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On 12/22/2022 11:26 AM, Mike Pietruk wrote:
Perhaps, and I'm only guessing, that some customers complained that making |
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K0LNY
I wonder if anyone has ever tried plugging in a USB camera, or even a
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bluetooth camera, to a Braille note and installed an Android app that uses the camera, such as Seeing AI? Braille Note Touch notetakers are just using Android, like a cell phone. Glenn ----- Original Message -----
From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:00 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Seeing AI works on android and all tablets too. But it is good to know that the post office does this for folks without so called smart devices. Seeing AI is free in the app store or play store. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Well, that's great for you. I am not using an iPhone and so cannot use Seeing AI. Happy holidays! Gene... On 12/22/2022 11:48 AM, K0LNY wrote: I didn't know that they did this. |
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Gerald Levy
The Postal Service
didn't break anything. For security reasons, they decided to
eliminate the scanned images from the Informed Delivery message
and instead require customers to sign in to their Accounts to
view them on the Informed Delivery web site.
Gerald
On 12/22/2022 12:07 PM, Steve Matzura
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Gene Warner
I have a BlindShell phone, Seeing Ai isn't available for it.
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Happy holidays! Gene... On 12/22/2022 12:00 PM, K0LNY wrote:
Seeing AI works on android and all tablets too. |
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Gene Warner
What is this fixation on Seeing AI and what does it have to do with the Post Office's Informed Delivery service?
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Happy holidays! Gene... On 12/22/2022 12:09 PM, K0LNY wrote:
I wonder if anyone has ever tried plugging in a USB camera, or even a |
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Gene Warner
Personally, I think it should be up to the customer whether they want the scanned images emailed to them or not. I might be blind, but I do not think that that means that I am no longer capable of making such decisions for myself.
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Happy holidays! Gene... On 12/22/2022 12:11 PM, Gerald Levy via groups.io wrote:
The Postal Service didn't break anything. For security reasons, they decided to eliminate the scanned images from the Informed Delivery message and instead require customers to sign in to their Accounts to view them on the Informed Delivery web site. |
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K0LNY
Well Gene,
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I could say what does informed delivery have to do with Jaws? Other than Jaws OCR is involved, which is not the problem with accessing it. Besides, you can use Jaws to access the playstore or app store to install Seeing AI to your device. Glenn ----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:25 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question What is this fixation on Seeing AI and what does it have to do with the Post Office's Informed Delivery service? Happy holidays! Gene... On 12/22/2022 12:09 PM, K0LNY wrote: I wonder if anyone has ever tried plugging in a USB camera, or even a |
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K0LNY
Gene,
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What does that have to do with Jaws? ----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:29 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Personally, I think it should be up to the customer whether they want the scanned images emailed to them or not. I might be blind, but I do not think that that means that I am no longer capable of making such decisions for myself. Happy holidays! Gene... On 12/22/2022 12:11 PM, Gerald Levy via groups.io wrote:
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Gene Warner
Because I use JAWS' Picture Smart feature to tell me what is in the scanned image. So JAWS allows me to use the service the way it was meant to by used. You using Seeing AI to scan you mail and packages as they arrive is a completely different situation where the only thing it has in common with me using JAWS to access the scanned images in a email sent to me is that we are both using digital camera and object recognition and OCR to find out about our mail.
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Happy holidays! Gene... On 12/22/2022 12:32 PM, K0LNY wrote:
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K0LNY
And I offered an alternative that may be easier than that.
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From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:38 AM Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question Because I use JAWS' Picture Smart feature to tell me what is in the scanned image. So JAWS allows me to use the service the way it was meant to by used. You using Seeing AI to scan you mail and packages as they arrive is a completely different situation where the only thing it has in common with me using JAWS to access the scanned images in a email sent to me is that we are both using digital camera and object recognition and OCR to find out about our mail. Happy holidays! Gene... On 12/22/2022 12:32 PM, K0LNY wrote: Gene, |
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Mike Pietruk
Gene
Mail is a 2-way thing. It's not only how you or I view consider this issue but also the sender. Government agencies seem paranoid that a statement or an informing note might get into the wrong hands; and ever notice the disclaimers some law firms and financial institutions attach to their emails? And, as a quasi-government entity that the postal service is, they likely fall into that category too. Does anyone know how this process works? Is the scanning done at the recipeints local post office, by some central sorting facility; and, if you request this, what exactly get scanned and does there seem to be a delay in receiving mail. There are many small post offices with 1 or 2 people working on a giving day so I would hate to impose upon them yet another task to their workload. As for the app Glenn mentioned, wonder if it could be adapted for phones such as the Blindshell 2? Perhaps those who own these smart phones should ask if that is an app that could be added to their list or not. |
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