Howard, it is much easier to bypass the password setup during the installation than do it after the fact. But it can be done, although I haven't tried it recently myself. If you're on Windows 11 I would consider doing a clean install to Windows 11. Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Sunday, 23 October 2022 20:32
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to turn off/disable the log on screen so you do not have to enter a password, each time you start or restart the computer

I'd like to turn off that peskey password requirement on a machine that is already set up. I've read about doing that, but never been successful.


Howard


On 10/23/2022 1:53 PM, Don H wrote:

You do need a password to set up Windows 10 or 11 but if you want a
local account rather than a microsoft account when you set up your
local account you can skip the password and you will boot to the desktop.

On 10/23/2022 1:47 PM, Dave Durber wrote:

Don:

I was led to believe, you could not install Windows 10, without
including a password, in other words, the password was mandatory.

Dave

----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2022 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: How to turn off/disable the log on screen so you do not
have to enter a password, each time you start or restart the computer


When you set up your local account simply leave the password blank.

On 10/23/2022 1:32 PM, Dave Durber wrote:

Hello everyone:
I think it was the October major release of Windows 10, 2020, Microsoft
took away the ability in the n e t p l w i z program, the function to
turn off/disable the log on screen.
I need to reinstall Windows 10 using the latest release of the
Windows.iso file. How can I turn off/disable the log on screen, so I do
not have to enter a password each time I turn on or, restart a
computer.
By the way, my system will be set up as a local machine, therefore,
I will be using my own user name and Password I will create during the
installation process, not my Microsoft account information.
Thanks in anticipation.
Dave

It's a windows 10 machine and I made the mistake of putting in a password when I set it up.
Howard
On 10/23/2022 2:40 PM, Life in Six Dots wrote:

Howard, it is much easier to bypass the password setup during the installation than do it after the fact. But it can be done, although I haven't tried it recently myself. If you're on Windows 11 I would consider doing a clean install to Windows 11. Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Sunday, 23 October 2022 20:32
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to turn off/disable the log on screen so you do not have to enter a password, each time you start or restart the computer

I'd like to turn off that peskey password requirement on a machine that is already set up.  I've read about doing that, but never been successful.


Howard


On 10/23/2022 1:53 PM, Don H wrote:

You do need a password to set up Windows 10 or 11 but if you want a
local account rather than a microsoft account when you set up your
local account you can skip the password and you will boot to the desktop.

On 10/23/2022 1:47 PM, Dave Durber wrote:

Don:

I was led to believe, you could not install Windows 10, without
including a password, in other words, the password was mandatory.

Dave

----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2022 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: How to turn off/disable the log on screen so you do not
have to enter a password, each time you start or restart the computer


When you set up your local account simply leave the password blank.

On 10/23/2022 1:32 PM, Dave Durber wrote:

Hello everyone:
I think it was the October major release of Windows 10, 2020, Microsoft
took away the ability in the n e t p l w i z program, the function to
turn off/disable the log on screen.
I need to reinstall Windows 10 using the latest release of the
Windows.iso file. How can I turn off/disable the log on screen, so I do
not have to enter a password each time I turn on or, restart a
computer.
By the way, my system will be set up as a local machine, therefore,
I will be using my own user name and Password I will create during the
installation process, not my Microsoft account information.
Thanks in anticipation.
Dave

It's a windows 10 machine and I made the mistake of putting in a
password when I set it up.

Howard

On 10/23/2022 2:40 PM, Life in Six Dots wrote:

Howard, it is much easier to bypass the password setup during the
installation than do it after the fact. But it can be done, although I
haven't tried it recently myself. If you're on Windows 11 I would
consider doing a clean install to Windows 11. Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Sunday, 23 October 2022 20:32
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to turn off/disable the log on screen so you do not
have to enter a password, each time you start or restart the computer

I'd like to turn off that peskey password requirement on a machine
that is already set up. I've read about doing that, but never been
successful.


Howard


On 10/23/2022 1:53 PM, Don H wrote:

You do need a password to set up Windows 10 or 11 but if you want a
local account rather than a microsoft account when you set up your
local account you can skip the password and you will boot to the
desktop.

On 10/23/2022 1:47 PM, Dave Durber wrote:

Don:

I was led to believe, you could not install Windows 10, without
including a password, in other words, the password was mandatory.

Dave

----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2022 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: How to turn off/disable the log on screen so you do not
have to enter a password, each time you start or restart the computer


When you set up your local account simply leave the password blank.

On 10/23/2022 1:32 PM, Dave Durber wrote:

Hello everyone:
I think it was the October major release of Windows 10, 2020,
Microsoft
took away the ability in the n e t p l w i z program, the function to
turn off/disable the log on screen.
I need to reinstall Windows 10 using the latest release of the
Windows.iso file. How can I turn off/disable the log on screen, so
I do
not have to enter a password each time I turn on or, restart a
computer.
By the way, my system will be set up as a local machine, therefore,
I will be using my own user name and Password I will create during the
installation process, not my Microsoft account information.
Thanks in anticipation.
Dave

It's a windows 10 machine and I made the mistake of putting in a
password when I set it up.

Howard

On 10/23/2022 2:40 PM, Life in Six Dots wrote:

Howard, it is much easier to bypass the password setup during the
installation than do it after the fact. But it can be done, although I
haven't tried it recently myself. If you're on Windows 11 I would
consider doing a clean install to Windows 11. Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Sunday, 23 October 2022 20:32
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to turn off/disable the log on screen so you do not
have to enter a password, each time you start or restart the computer

I'd like to turn off that peskey password requirement on a machine
that is already set up. I've read about doing that, but never been
successful.


Howard


On 10/23/2022 1:53 PM, Don H wrote:

You do need a password to set up Windows 10 or 11 but if you want a
local account rather than a microsoft account when you set up your
local account you can skip the password and you will boot to the
desktop.

On 10/23/2022 1:47 PM, Dave Durber wrote:

Don:

I was led to believe, you could not install Windows 10, without
including a password, in other words, the password was mandatory.

Dave

----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2022 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: How to turn off/disable the log on screen so you do not
have to enter a password, each time you start or restart the computer


When you set up your local account simply leave the password blank.

On 10/23/2022 1:32 PM, Dave Durber wrote:

Hello everyone:
I think it was the October major release of Windows 10, 2020,
Microsoft
took away the ability in the n e t p l w i z program, the function to
turn off/disable the log on screen.
I need to reinstall Windows 10 using the latest release of the
Windows.iso file. How can I turn off/disable the log on screen, so
I do
not have to enter a password each time I turn on or, restart a
computer.
By the way, my system will be set up as a local machine, therefore,
I will be using my own user name and Password I will create during the
installation process, not my Microsoft account information.
Thanks in anticipation.
Dave

Also, on the talking WinPE disk, the one with eSpeak, there is a utility on
the desktop for changing the password on any computer.
So if you inherit a computer for example, assuming the external boot feature
wasn't turned off in the BIOS for security, you can boot to any computer
and change the user name and password, and also get product keys for things
installed on the computer.
Business and government computers usually get the external boot option
turned off by the organization's tech person to prevent such things.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2022 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: How to turn off/disable the log on screen so you do not have to
enter a password, each time you start or restart the computer


Maybe this was mentioned at the beginning of this thread, I didn't read the
first few, but can't you go into account control in control panel, and go to
change account password and leave the field blank there?
Or, another idea is to run a change password utility, like
chntpw
which will allow you to change it to a blank field
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2022 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: How to turn off/disable the log on screen so you do not have to
enter a password, each time you start or restart the computer


I believe that the easiest way to get rid of the password if you simply
can't delete it is to use the new account method I outlined in a
previous message.

I haven't looked but there might be a third party utility that can
remove the password for you if Microsoft won't let you.

Gene...


On 10/23/2022 3:48 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:

It's a windows 10 machine and I made the mistake of putting in a
password when I set it up.

Howard

On 10/23/2022 2:40 PM, Life in Six Dots wrote:

Howard, it is much easier to bypass the password setup during the
installation than do it after the fact. But it can be done, although I
haven't tried it recently myself. If you're on Windows 11 I would
consider doing a clean install to Windows 11. Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Sunday, 23 October 2022 20:32
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to turn off/disable the log on screen so you do not
have to enter a password, each time you start or restart the computer

I'd like to turn off that peskey password requirement on a machine
that is already set up. I've read about doing that, but never been
successful.


Howard


On 10/23/2022 1:53 PM, Don H wrote:

You do need a password to set up Windows 10 or 11 but if you want a
local account rather than a microsoft account when you set up your
local account you can skip the password and you will boot to the
desktop.

On 10/23/2022 1:47 PM, Dave Durber wrote:

Don:

I was led to believe, you could not install Windows 10, without
including a password, in other words, the password was mandatory.

Dave

----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2022 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: How to turn off/disable the log on screen so you do not
have to enter a password, each time you start or restart the computer


When you set up your local account simply leave the password blank.

On 10/23/2022 1:32 PM, Dave Durber wrote:

Hello everyone:
I think it was the October major release of Windows 10, 2020,
Microsoft
took away the ability in the n e t p l w i z program, the function to
turn off/disable the log on screen.
I need to reinstall Windows 10 using the latest release of the
Windows.iso file. How can I turn off/disable the log on screen, so
I do
not have to enter a password each time I turn on or, restart a
computer.
By the way, my system will be set up as a local machine, therefore,
I will be using my own user name and Password I will create during the
installation process, not my Microsoft account information.
Thanks in anticipation.
Dave

Also, on the talking WinPE disk, the one with eSpeak, there is a utility
on
the desktop for changing the password on any computer.
So if you inherit a computer for example, assuming the external boot
feature
wasn't turned off in the BIOS for security, you can boot to any computer
and change the user name and password, and also get product keys for
things
installed on the computer.
Business and government computers usually get the external boot option
turned off by the organization's tech person to prevent such things.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2022 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: How to turn off/disable the log on screen so you do not have
to
enter a password, each time you start or restart the computer


Maybe this was mentioned at the beginning of this thread, I didn't read
the
first few, but can't you go into account control in control panel, and go
to
change account password and leave the field blank there?
Or, another idea is to run a change password utility, like
chntpw
which will allow you to change it to a blank field
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2022 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: How to turn off/disable the log on screen so you do not have
to
enter a password, each time you start or restart the computer


I believe that the easiest way to get rid of the password if you simply
can't delete it is to use the new account method I outlined in a
previous message.

I haven't looked but there might be a third party utility that can
remove the password for you if Microsoft won't let you.

Gene...


On 10/23/2022 3:48 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:

It's a windows 10 machine and I made the mistake of putting in a
password when I set it up.

Howard

On 10/23/2022 2:40 PM, Life in Six Dots wrote:

Howard, it is much easier to bypass the password setup during the
installation than do it after the fact. But it can be done, although I
haven't tried it recently myself. If you're on Windows 11 I would
consider doing a clean install to Windows 11. Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard
Traxler
Sent: Sunday, 23 October 2022 20:32
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to turn off/disable the log on screen so you do not
have to enter a password, each time you start or restart the computer

I'd like to turn off that peskey password requirement on a machine
that is already set up. I've read about doing that, but never been
successful.


Howard


On 10/23/2022 1:53 PM, Don H wrote:

You do need a password to set up Windows 10 or 11 but if you want a
local account rather than a microsoft account when you set up your
local account you can skip the password and you will boot to the
desktop.

On 10/23/2022 1:47 PM, Dave Durber wrote:

Don:

I was led to believe, you could not install Windows 10, without
including a password, in other words, the password was mandatory.

Dave

----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2022 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: How to turn off/disable the log on screen so you do not
have to enter a password, each time you start or restart the computer


When you set up your local account simply leave the password blank.

On 10/23/2022 1:32 PM, Dave Durber wrote:

Hello everyone:
I think it was the October major release of Windows 10, 2020,
Microsoft
took away the ability in the n e t p l w i z program, the function to
turn off/disable the log on screen.
I need to reinstall Windows 10 using the latest release of the
Windows.iso file. How can I turn off/disable the log on screen, so
I do
not have to enter a password each time I turn on or, restart a
computer.
By the way, my system will be set up as a local machine, therefore,
I will be using my own user name and Password I will create during
the
installation process, not my Microsoft account information.
Thanks in anticipation.
Dave

Where does one find this talking WinPE disk, ?  It seems like something I should have.
Howard
On 10/23/2022 3:13 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:

Also, on the talking WinPE disk, the one with eSpeak, there is a utility on
the desktop for changing the password on any computer.
So if you inherit a computer for example, assuming the external boot feature
wasn't turned off in the BIOS for security, you  can boot to any computer
and change the user name and password, and also get product keys for things
installed on the computer.
Business and government computers usually get the external boot option
turned off by the organization's tech person to prevent such things.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2022 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: How to turn off/disable the log on screen so you do not have to
enter a password, each time you start or restart the computer


Maybe this was mentioned at the beginning of this thread, I didn't read the
first few, but can't you go into account control in control panel, and go to
change account password and leave the field blank there?
Or, another idea is to run a change password utility, like
chntpw
which will allow you to change it to a blank field
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2022 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: How to turn off/disable the log on screen so you do not have to
enter a password, each time you start or restart the computer


I believe that the easiest way to get rid of the password if you simply
can't delete it is to use the new account method I outlined in a
previous message.

I haven't looked but there might be a third party utility that can
remove the password for you if Microsoft won't let you.

Gene...


On 10/23/2022 3:48 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:

It's a windows 10 machine and I made the mistake of putting in a
password when I set it up.

Howard

On 10/23/2022 2:40 PM, Life in Six Dots wrote:

Howard, it is much easier to bypass the password setup during the
installation than do it after the fact. But it can be done, although I
haven't tried it recently myself. If you're on Windows 11 I would
consider doing a clean install to Windows 11. Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Sunday, 23 October 2022 20:32
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to turn off/disable the log on screen so you do not
have to enter a password, each time you start or restart the computer

I'd like to turn off that peskey password requirement on a machine
that is already set up. I've read about doing that, but never been
successful.


Howard


On 10/23/2022 1:53 PM, Don H wrote:

You do need a password to set up Windows 10 or 11 but if you want a
local account rather than a microsoft account when you set up your
local account you can skip the password and you will boot to the
desktop.

On 10/23/2022 1:47 PM, Dave Durber wrote:

Don:

I was led to believe, you could not install Windows 10, without
including a password, in other words, the password was mandatory.

Dave

----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2022 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: How to turn off/disable the log on screen so you do not
have to enter a password, each time you start or restart the computer


When you set up your local account simply leave the password blank.

On 10/23/2022 1:32 PM, Dave Durber wrote:

Hello everyone:
I think it was the October major release of Windows 10, 2020,
Microsoft
took away the ability in the n e t p l w i z program, the function to
turn off/disable the log on screen.
I need to reinstall Windows 10 using the latest release of the
Windows.iso file. How can I turn off/disable the log on screen, so
I do
not have to enter a password each time I turn on or, restart a
computer.
By the way, my system will be set up as a local machine, therefore,
I will be using my own user name and Password I will create during the
installation process, not my Microsoft account information.
Thanks in anticipation.
Dave

Here are two links from my open drive, the first is an executable for
installing directly to a DVD, and the second link is the ISO, which is the
way I prefer.
Glenn
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjU3MTQwNjNf/Win10PE-x64.exe
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjU3MTk0MDBf/Win10PE-x64.ISO
----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard Traxler" <htraxler7@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2022 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: How to turn off/disable the log on screen so you do not have to
enter a password, each time you start or restart the computer
Where does one find this talking WinPE disk, ? It seems like something
I should have.
Howard
On 10/23/2022 3:13 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:

Also, on the talking WinPE disk, the one with eSpeak, there is a utility
on
the desktop for changing the password on any computer.
So if you inherit a computer for example, assuming the external boot
feature
wasn't turned off in the BIOS for security, you can boot to any computer
and change the user name and password, and also get product keys for
things
installed on the computer.
Business and government computers usually get the external boot option
turned off by the organization's tech person to prevent such things.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2022 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: How to turn off/disable the log on screen so you do not have
to
enter a password, each time you start or restart the computer


Maybe this was mentioned at the beginning of this thread, I didn't read
the
first few, but can't you go into account control in control panel, and go
to
change account password and leave the field blank there?
Or, another idea is to run a change password utility, like
chntpw
which will allow you to change it to a blank field
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2022 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: How to turn off/disable the log on screen so you do not have
to
enter a password, each time you start or restart the computer


I believe that the easiest way to get rid of the password if you simply
can't delete it is to use the new account method I outlined in a
previous message.

I haven't looked but there might be a third party utility that can
remove the password for you if Microsoft won't let you.

Gene...


On 10/23/2022 3:48 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:

It's a windows 10 machine and I made the mistake of putting in a
password when I set it up.

Howard

On 10/23/2022 2:40 PM, Life in Six Dots wrote:

Howard, it is much easier to bypass the password setup during the
installation than do it after the fact. But it can be done, although I
haven't tried it recently myself. If you're on Windows 11 I would
consider doing a clean install to Windows 11. Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard
Traxler
Sent: Sunday, 23 October 2022 20:32
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to turn off/disable the log on screen so you do not
have to enter a password, each time you start or restart the computer

I'd like to turn off that peskey password requirement on a machine
that is already set up. I've read about doing that, but never been
successful.


Howard


On 10/23/2022 1:53 PM, Don H wrote:

You do need a password to set up Windows 10 or 11 but if you want a
local account rather than a microsoft account when you set up your
local account you can skip the password and you will boot to the
desktop.

On 10/23/2022 1:47 PM, Dave Durber wrote:

Don:

I was led to believe, you could not install Windows 10, without
including a password, in other words, the password was mandatory.

Dave

----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2022 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: How to turn off/disable the log on screen so you do not
have to enter a password, each time you start or restart the computer


When you set up your local account simply leave the password blank.

On 10/23/2022 1:32 PM, Dave Durber wrote:

Hello everyone:
I think it was the October major release of Windows 10, 2020,
Microsoft
took away the ability in the n e t p l w i z program, the function to
turn off/disable the log on screen.
I need to reinstall Windows 10 using the latest release of the
Windows.iso file. How can I turn off/disable the log on screen, so
I do
not have to enter a password each time I turn on or, restart a
computer.
By the way, my system will be set up as a local machine, therefore,
I will be using my own user name and Password I will create during
the
installation process, not my Microsoft account information.
Thanks in anticipation.
Dave

That still works? That's how I did it last time.

What worries me is that I have heard that Microsoft has taken away
the
ability to set up Windows using a local account, which would prevent
you
from doing that.

Gene...


On 10/23/2022 2:43 PM, Don H wrote:

When you set up your local account simply leave the password

blank.

On 10/23/2022 1:32 PM, Dave Durber wrote:

Hello everyone:
I think it was the October major release of Windows 10, 2020,

Microsoft

took away the ability in the n e t p l w i z program, the

function to

turn off/disable the log on screen.
I need to reinstall Windows 10 using the latest release of the
Windows.iso file. How can I turn off/disable the log on screen,

so I do

not have to enter a password each time I turn on or, restart a

computer.

By the way, my system will be set up as a local

machine, therefore,

I will be using my own user name and Password I will create

during the

installation process, not my Microsoft account information.
Thanks in anticipation.
Dave

Jene:

Someone on the MS Disability Help desk told me, if you want to set
up your
computer with your own user name and password, it was best to
disconnect the
ethernet cable or turn off the wireless function, before starting
the
computer with the installation media. . Once you complete the set up
process
and connect the ethernet cable or, you set up the wireless
connection, you
can then add your Microsoft account, without affecting the user
account
information you entered during the set up process.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2022 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: How to turn off/disable the log on screen so you do not
have to
enter a password, each time you start or restart the computer

That still works? That's how I did it last time.

What worries me is that I have heard that Microsoft has taken away

the

ability to set up Windows using a local account, which would

prevent you

from doing that.

Gene...


On 10/23/2022 2:43 PM, Don H wrote:

When you set up your local account simply leave the password

blank.

On 10/23/2022 1:32 PM, Dave Durber wrote:

Hello everyone:
I think it was the October major release of Windows 10, 2020,

Microsoft

took away the ability in the n e t p l w i z program, the

function to

turn off/disable the log on screen.
I need to reinstall Windows 10 using the latest release of the
Windows.iso file. How can I turn off/disable the log on screen,

so I do

not have to enter a password each time I turn on or, restart a

computer.

By the way, my system will be set up as a local machine,

therefore,

I will be using my own user name and Password I will create

during the

installation process, not my Microsoft account information.
Thanks in anticipation.
Dave

I'd like to turn off that peskey password requirement on a machine
that
is already set up. I've read about doing that, but never been
successful.


Howard


On 10/23/2022 1:53 PM, Don H wrote:

You do need a password to set up Windows 10 or 11 but if you want

a

local account rather than a microsoft account when you set up your

local account you can skip the password and you will boot to the

desktop.

On 10/23/2022 1:47 PM, Dave Durber wrote:

Don:

I was led to believe, you could not install Windows 10, without
including a password, in other words, the password was mandatory.

Dave

----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2022 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: How to turn off/disable the log on screen so you do

not

have to enter a password, each time you start or restart the

computer

When you set up your local account simply leave the password

blank.

On 10/23/2022 1:32 PM, Dave Durber wrote:

Hello everyone:
I think it was the October major release of Windows 10, 2020,

Microsoft

took away the ability in the n e t p l w i z program, the

function to

turn off/disable the log on screen.
I need to reinstall Windows 10 using the latest release of the
Windows.iso file. How can I turn off/disable the log on screen,

so I do

not have to enter a password each time I turn on or, restart a
computer.
By the way, my system will be set up as a local machine,

therefore,

I will be using my own user name and Password I will create

during the

installation process, not my Microsoft account information.
Thanks in anticipation.
Dave

If doing a clean install of Windows 11 22H2 it now requires an internet
connection. The option of continuing without connecting to the internet
is gone and there is no way to get past the page of the installation that
requires an internet connection.
K
On Sun, 23 Oct 2022 20:29:52 +0100 "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
writes:

Jene:

Someone on the MS Disability Help desk told me, if you want to set
up your
computer with your own user name and password, it was best to
disconnect the
ethernet cable or turn off the wireless function, before starting
the
computer with the installation media. . Once you complete the set up
process
and connect the ethernet cable or, you set up the wireless
connection, you
can then add your Microsoft account, without affecting the user
account
information you entered during the set up process.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2022 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: How to turn off/disable the log on screen so you do not
have to
enter a password, each time you start or restart the computer

That still works? That's how I did it last time.

What worries me is that I have heard that Microsoft has taken away

the

ability to set up Windows using a local account, which would

prevent you

from doing that.

Gene...


On 10/23/2022 2:43 PM, Don H wrote:

When you set up your local account simply leave the password

blank.

On 10/23/2022 1:32 PM, Dave Durber wrote:

Hello everyone:
I think it was the October major release of Windows 10, 2020,

Microsoft

took away the ability in the n e t p l w i z program, the

function to

turn off/disable the log on screen.
I need to reinstall Windows 10 using the latest release of the
Windows.iso file. How can I turn off/disable the log on screen,

so I do

not have to enter a password each time I turn on or, restart a

computer.

By the way, my system will be set up as a local machine,

therefore,

I will be using my own user name and Password I will create

during the

installation process, not my Microsoft account information.
Thanks in anticipation.
Dave

If doing a clean install of Windows 11 22H2 it now requires an internet
connection. The option of continuing without connecting to the internet
is gone and there is no way to get past the page of the installation that
requires an internet connection.

K
On Sun, 23 Oct 2022 20:29:52 +0100 "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
writes:

Jene:

Someone on the MS Disability Help desk told me, if you want to set
up your
computer with your own user name and password, it was best to
disconnect the
ethernet cable or turn off the wireless function, before starting
the
computer with the installation media. . Once you complete the set up
process
and connect the ethernet cable or, you set up the wireless
connection, you
can then add your Microsoft account, without affecting the user
account
information you entered during the set up process.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2022 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: How to turn off/disable the log on screen so you do not
have to
enter a password, each time you start or restart the computer

That still works? That's how I did it last time.

What worries me is that I have heard that Microsoft has taken away

the

ability to set up Windows using a local account, which would

prevent you

from doing that.

Gene...


On 10/23/2022 2:43 PM, Don H wrote:

When you set up your local account simply leave the password

blank.

On 10/23/2022 1:32 PM, Dave Durber wrote:

Hello everyone:
I think it was the October major release of Windows 10, 2020,

Microsoft

took away the ability in the n e t p l w i z program, the

function to

turn off/disable the log on screen.
I need to reinstall Windows 10 using the latest release of the
Windows.iso file. How can I turn off/disable the log on screen,

so I do

not have to enter a password each time I turn on or, restart a

computer.

By the way, my system will be set up as a local machine,

therefore,

I will be using my own user name and Password I will create

during the

installation process, not my Microsoft account information.
Thanks in anticipation.
Dave

Gene,
Did you check your BIOS to see if 2.0 is a separate option from 1.0?
Here's a bit on TPM for those who don't know:
Does my PC have TPM 2.0 support already?
article
If your machine is relatively up to date (less than four years old), then
there's a very good chance that you do, although pedants may argue over
whether
that's true hardware TPM support or the firmware based TPM, which is
basically offered by your CPU. You may need to
enable TPM 2.0 in your UEFI/BIOS,
but there's a very good chance it's there.
article end
Intel has various technologies that offer TPM 2.0 support, under a variety
of names, but keep an eye out for PTT (Platform Trust Technology) and IPT
(Identity
Protection Technology) before trying to turn on TPM 2.0 in your UEFI/BIOS.
Essentially though, Intel has supported TPM 2.0 on all its chips since
Skylake,
and on selected chips up to two generations before that.
AMD has supported TPM 2.0 since the Ryzen 2500, with its fTPM (Firmware
TPM). So all of its Zen 2 and Zen 3 processors are also covered.
Microsoft has produced a full list of supported CPUs, here's the
Intel list
(opens in new tab) and the
AMD CPU
(opens in new tab) one. If your processor is on there, then you're good—or
at least your CPU is not the reason Windows 11 refuses to play ball.
One option, if your CPU doesn't natively support TPM 2.0, is that you can
add a separate physical module to your machine to upgrade its support. You
need
to check your motherboard manual to make sure there is an SPI TPM 2.0 header
present, and then it's a case of tracking down a compatible module. Your CPU
will still need to be on that aforementioned list though, so if it isn't,
there's not much point adding a TPM separately.
HOW DO I CHECK IF IT'S ENABLED?
(Image credit: Microsoft) figure
Windows 11 Health Check
(Image credit: Microsoft)
(Image credit: Microsoft) figure end
How can I check if TPM 2.0 is enabled?
article
If you've switched on your PC's TPM in the BIOS, then you can check what
it's capable of using the Windows Powershell. You'll need to run this in
Administrator
mode, which you can do by right-clicking the Start menu and select Windows
PowerShell (Admin), then simply type get-tpm. The main things you want to
check
here is that it is present, ready, and enabled.
For a slightly prettier way of checking this, you hit [Win]+R and type
tpm.msc into the run windows before hitting return. You'll find whether
you've got
TPM enabled and working via this window, with the version supported at the
bottom.
article end
It's worth noting that all the uncertainty around TPM 2.0 support is largely
focused either on machines you've built yourself and bespoke gaming rigs
from
boutique vendors. Laptops will generally support TPM off the bat, as are
plenty of machines that are intended to be used in managed office
environments.
Obviously, if you have any doubts, you should run the PC Health Check tool
and see what it says.
Could this ultimately mean that you're going to need to buy a new PC in
order to run Windows 11? It could, and that seems like utter madness right
now.
Microsoft needs a healthy installed userbase for its latest OS, no matter
what, and right now it feels like there's a barrier in place to dissuade
potential
upgraders.
PC Gamer Club
figure
Alan Dexter
figure end
Alan Dexter
https://www.pcgamer.com/windows-11-demands-tpm-20-and-heres-what-that-means-for-you/
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2022 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: How to turn off/disable the log on screen so you do not have to
enter a password, each time you start or restart the computer
I don't have to worry about this yet because my computer doesn't meet
the minimum requirements for Windows 11, but setting up the local
account and deleting the Microsoft account would be the very first thing
I do after Windows is finished installing.
The only thing that stops me from being able to use Windows 11 is that
my computer doesn't have TPM 2.0, it only has TPM 1.2.
Gene...
On 10/23/2022 5:42 PM, nocm@... wrote:

If doing a clean install of Windows 11 22H2 it now requires an internet
connection. The option of continuing without connecting to the internet
is gone and there is no way to get past the page of the installation that
requires an internet connection.

K
On Sun, 23 Oct 2022 20:29:52 +0100 "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
writes:

Jene:

Someone on the MS Disability Help desk told me, if you want to set
up your
computer with your own user name and password, it was best to
disconnect the
ethernet cable or turn off the wireless function, before starting
the
computer with the installation media. . Once you complete the set up
process
and connect the ethernet cable or, you set up the wireless
connection, you
can then add your Microsoft account, without affecting the user
account
information you entered during the set up process.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2022 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: How to turn off/disable the log on screen so you do not
have to
enter a password, each time you start or restart the computer

That still works? That's how I did it last time.

What worries me is that I have heard that Microsoft has taken away

the

ability to set up Windows using a local account, which would

prevent you

from doing that.

Gene...


On 10/23/2022 2:43 PM, Don H wrote:

When you set up your local account simply leave the password

blank.

On 10/23/2022 1:32 PM, Dave Durber wrote:

Hello everyone:
I think it was the October major release of Windows 10, 2020,

Microsoft

took away the ability in the n e t p l w i z program, the

function to

turn off/disable the log on screen.
I need to reinstall Windows 10 using the latest release of the
Windows.iso file. How can I turn off/disable the log on screen,

so I do

not have to enter a password each time I turn on or, restart a

computer.

By the way, my system will be set up as a local machine,

therefore,

I will be using my own user name and Password I will create

during the

installation process, not my Microsoft account information.
Thanks in anticipation.
Dave

If doing a clean install of Windows 11 22H2 it now requires an internet
connection. The option of continuing without connecting to the internet
is gone and there is no way to get past the page of the installation that
requires an internet connection.

K
On Sun, 23 Oct 2022 20:29:52 +0100 "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
writes:

Jene:

Someone on the MS Disability Help desk told me, if you want to set
up your
computer with your own user name and password, it was best to
disconnect the
ethernet cable or turn off the wireless function, before starting
the
computer with the installation media. . Once you complete the set up
process
and connect the ethernet cable or, you set up the wireless
connection, you
can then add your Microsoft account, without affecting the user
account
information you entered during the set up process.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2022 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: How to turn off/disable the log on screen so you do not
have to
enter a password, each time you start or restart the computer

That still works? That's how I did it last time.

What worries me is that I have heard that Microsoft has taken away

the

ability to set up Windows using a local account, which would

prevent you

from doing that.

Gene...


On 10/23/2022 2:43 PM, Don H wrote:

When you set up your local account simply leave the password

blank.

On 10/23/2022 1:32 PM, Dave Durber wrote:

Hello everyone:
I think it was the October major release of Windows 10, 2020,

Microsoft

took away the ability in the n e t p l w i z program, the

function to

turn off/disable the log on screen.
I need to reinstall Windows 10 using the latest release of the
Windows.iso file. How can I turn off/disable the log on screen,

so I do

not have to enter a password each time I turn on or, restart a

computer.

By the way, my system will be set up as a local machine,

therefore,

I will be using my own user name and Password I will create

during the

installation process, not my Microsoft account information.
Thanks in anticipation.
Dave

The easiest way to do this is to do windows + R
and enter
tpm.msc
and press enter
You will probably need to tab once to read the message.
I just ran this on my Windows 7 and it told me that TPM 1.0 is not present.
But since it's an Intel PC, it might have the module, but possibly not
turned on in the BIOS.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2022 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: How to turn off/disable the log on screen so you do not have to
enter a password, each time you start or restart the computer
Gene,
Did you check your BIOS to see if 2.0 is a separate option from 1.0?
Here's a bit on TPM for those who don't know:
Does my PC have TPM 2.0 support already?
article
If your machine is relatively up to date (less than four years old), then
there's a very good chance that you do, although pedants may argue over
whether
that's true hardware TPM support or the firmware based TPM, which is
basically offered by your CPU. You may need to
enable TPM 2.0 in your UEFI/BIOS,
but there's a very good chance it's there.
article end
Intel has various technologies that offer TPM 2.0 support, under a variety
of names, but keep an eye out for PTT (Platform Trust Technology) and IPT
(Identity
Protection Technology) before trying to turn on TPM 2.0 in your UEFI/BIOS.
Essentially though, Intel has supported TPM 2.0 on all its chips since
Skylake,
and on selected chips up to two generations before that.
AMD has supported TPM 2.0 since the Ryzen 2500, with its fTPM (Firmware
TPM). So all of its Zen 2 and Zen 3 processors are also covered.
Microsoft has produced a full list of supported CPUs, here's the
Intel list
(opens in new tab) and the
AMD CPU
(opens in new tab) one. If your processor is on there, then you're good—or
at least your CPU is not the reason Windows 11 refuses to play ball.
One option, if your CPU doesn't natively support TPM 2.0, is that you can
add a separate physical module to your machine to upgrade its support. You
need
to check your motherboard manual to make sure there is an SPI TPM 2.0 header
present, and then it's a case of tracking down a compatible module. Your CPU
will still need to be on that aforementioned list though, so if it isn't,
there's not much point adding a TPM separately.
HOW DO I CHECK IF IT'S ENABLED?
(Image credit: Microsoft) figure
Windows 11 Health Check
(Image credit: Microsoft)
(Image credit: Microsoft) figure end
How can I check if TPM 2.0 is enabled?
article
If you've switched on your PC's TPM in the BIOS, then you can check what
it's capable of using the Windows Powershell. You'll need to run this in
Administrator
mode, which you can do by right-clicking the Start menu and select Windows
PowerShell (Admin), then simply type get-tpm. The main things you want to
check
here is that it is present, ready, and enabled.
For a slightly prettier way of checking this, you hit [Win]+R and type
tpm.msc into the run windows before hitting return. You'll find whether
you've got
TPM enabled and working via this window, with the version supported at the
bottom.
article end
It's worth noting that all the uncertainty around TPM 2.0 support is largely
focused either on machines you've built yourself and bespoke gaming rigs
from
boutique vendors. Laptops will generally support TPM off the bat, as are
plenty of machines that are intended to be used in managed office
environments.
Obviously, if you have any doubts, you should run the PC Health Check tool
and see what it says.
Could this ultimately mean that you're going to need to buy a new PC in
order to run Windows 11? It could, and that seems like utter madness right
now.
Microsoft needs a healthy installed userbase for its latest OS, no matter
what, and right now it feels like there's a barrier in place to dissuade
potential
upgraders.
PC Gamer Club
figure
Alan Dexter
figure end
Alan Dexter
https://www.pcgamer.com/windows-11-demands-tpm-20-and-heres-what-that-means-for-you/
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2022 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: How to turn off/disable the log on screen so you do not have to
enter a password, each time you start or restart the computer
I don't have to worry about this yet because my computer doesn't meet
the minimum requirements for Windows 11, but setting up the local
account and deleting the Microsoft account would be the very first thing
I do after Windows is finished installing.
The only thing that stops me from being able to use Windows 11 is that
my computer doesn't have TPM 2.0, it only has TPM 1.2.
Gene...
On 10/23/2022 5:42 PM, nocm@... wrote:

If doing a clean install of Windows 11 22H2 it now requires an internet
connection. The option of continuing without connecting to the internet
is gone and there is no way to get past the page of the installation that
requires an internet connection.

K
On Sun, 23 Oct 2022 20:29:52 +0100 "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
writes:

Jene:

Someone on the MS Disability Help desk told me, if you want to set
up your
computer with your own user name and password, it was best to
disconnect the
ethernet cable or turn off the wireless function, before starting
the
computer with the installation media. . Once you complete the set up
process
and connect the ethernet cable or, you set up the wireless
connection, you
can then add your Microsoft account, without affecting the user
account
information you entered during the set up process.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2022 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: How to turn off/disable the log on screen so you do not
have to
enter a password, each time you start or restart the computer

That still works? That's how I did it last time.

What worries me is that I have heard that Microsoft has taken away

the

ability to set up Windows using a local account, which would

prevent you

from doing that.

Gene...


On 10/23/2022 2:43 PM, Don H wrote:

When you set up your local account simply leave the password

blank.

On 10/23/2022 1:32 PM, Dave Durber wrote:

Hello everyone:
I think it was the October major release of Windows 10, 2020,

Microsoft

took away the ability in the n e t p l w i z program, the

function to

turn off/disable the log on screen.
I need to reinstall Windows 10 using the latest release of the
Windows.iso file. How can I turn off/disable the log on screen,

so I do

not have to enter a password each time I turn on or, restart a

computer.

By the way, my system will be set up as a local machine,

therefore,

I will be using my own user name and Password I will create

during the

installation process, not my Microsoft account information.
Thanks in anticipation.
Dave

If you have an Intel processor that's earlier than 8th generation (which means that after the i-designation there would need to be a number that's 8000 or higher) you don't qualify for Windows 11 regardless of TPM Status.

I don't know of a single machine that started out life during the Windows 7 era that could be upgraded to Windows 11, although virtually all of them could be (and still can be) upgraded to Windows 10.

Intel Processors that are Supported Under Windows 11
 (even though some Atom and Celeron processors are supported, I'd gnaw my hands off before trying them with Windows 11)

AMD Processors that are Supported Under Windows 11
--

Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045  

If you cannot or will not imagine the results of your actions, there’s no way you can act morally or responsibly.  Little kids can’t do it; babies are morally monsters — completely greedy. Their imagination has to be trained into foresight and empathy.

         ~ Ursula LeGuin, 2005 Interview in The Guardian

 


6th and 7th generation processors will run Windows 11 and it runs extremely stable on them.  Microsoft came out with an announcement on august 28, 2021 stating that Windows 11 if done as a clean install would bypass the system check for the processor, TPM and Secure boot requirements and would allow the operating system to be installed.  I've even been able to get it installed onto some 5th generation machines, but it is all dependant on who the manufacturer is on the machine.
TPM 2.0 was first introduced in august of 2014 and most machines that were a part of the 2015 year models had the TPM 2.0 available, but it was turned off in the bios as Windows 7 will not run with TPM 2.0 turned on.  All machines that were 2016 models had the TPM 2.0 as a part of the system as all manufacturers required it by that calendar years models; but it did not have to be enabled as some machines were still being released with Windows 7 on them.
K
On Sun, 23 Oct 2022 16:08:59 -0700 "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@... <mailto:britechguy@...>> writes:
If you have an Intel processor that's earlier than 8th generation
(which means that after the i-designation there would need to be a
number that's 8000 or higher) you don't qualify for Windows 11
regardless of TPM Status.
I don't know of a single machine that started out life during the
Windows 7 era that could be upgraded to Windows 11, although
virtually all of them could be (and still can be) upgraded to
Windows 10.
Intel Processors that are Supported Under Windows 11
<https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-supported-intel-processors>
 (even though some Atom and Celeron processors are supported, I'd
gnaw my hands off before trying them with Windows 11)
AMD Processors that are Supported Under Windows 11
<https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-supported-amd-processors>
--
Brian - Virginia, USA- Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045
*/If you cannot or will not imagine the results of your actions,
there’s no way you can act morally or responsibly.  Little kids
can’t do it; babies are morally monsters — completely greedy. Their
imagination has to be trained into foresight and empathy./*
~ Ursula LeGuin, 2005 Interview in /The Guardian/


6th and 7th generation processors will run Windows 11 and it runs extremely stable on them.  Microsoft came out with an announcement on august 28, 2021 stating that Windows 11 if done as a clean install would bypass the system check for the processor, TPM and Secure boot requirements and would allow the operating system to be installed.  I've even been able to get it installed onto some 5th generation machines, but it is all dependant on who the manufacturer is on the machine.
TPM 2.0 was first introduced in august of 2014 and most machines that were a part of the 2015 year models had the TPM 2.0 available, but it was turned off in the bios as Windows 7 will not run with TPM 2.0 turned on.  All machines that were 2016 models had the TPM 2.0 as a part of the system as all manufacturers required it by that calendar years models; but it did not have to be enabled as some machines were still being released with Windows 7 on them.
K
On Sun, 23 Oct 2022 16:08:59 -0700 "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@... <mailto:britechguy@...>> writes:
If you have an Intel processor that's earlier than 8th generation
(which means that after the i-designation there would need to be a
number that's 8000 or higher) you don't qualify for Windows 11
regardless of TPM Status.
I don't know of a single machine that started out life during the
Windows 7 era that could be upgraded to Windows 11, although
virtually all of them could be (and still can be) upgraded to
Windows 10.
Intel Processors that are Supported Under Windows 11
<https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-supported-intel-processors>
 (even though some Atom and Celeron processors are supported, I'd
gnaw my hands off before trying them with Windows 11)
AMD Processors that are Supported Under Windows 11
<https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-supported-amd-processors>
--
Brian - Virginia, USA- Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045
*/If you cannot or will not imagine the results of your actions,
there’s no way you can act morally or responsibly.  Little kids
can’t do it; babies are morally monsters — completely greedy. Their
imagination has to be trained into foresight and empathy./*
~ Ursula LeGuin, 2005 Interview in /The Guardian/