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how to get jaws to read image src.

Patrick Murphy
 

Hi,

 

This goes back to something i posted here before.

I have a buffalo link station ls440 nas device.

Whenever you need to shut it down, you are asked for a 4 digit number.

This is displayed on the screen as four images.

However, the alt attribute for each of these numbers is “number_1” “number_2” etc.

This alt attribute is assigned when the confirmation number is asked for.

So, if you try to shut it down you could get a number like 1234.

The next time it could be 4321.

However, the alt attribute always remains at “number_1” “number_2” etc.

Therefore, you don’t know what number is actually displayed.

Tried custom label, graphics labeller, hight and width of graphics, show hide tagged etc.

Nothing works.

However, by examining the element in my browser, i have determined, that the actual image file is the actual number.

e.g. if the first number being displayed on screen is the number 6:

the img tag will be:

<img alt=”number_1” src=”num6.jpg”>

So, if i could force jaws to read the actual name of the file, it would indicate to me what the four numbers actually are.

I have tried every setting i can find both in the default application settings and the browser specific settings in relation to graphics.

Nothing works!!

This is the same for jaws 2018 and 2020.

Jaws has a scripting language.

Has anyone ever used this to force something?

I have programming experience, but i haven’t had the need to script anything for jaws yet.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

What i cannot understand, is why jaws wont assign a custom label to it. Afterall, its just an image tag!!

 

pat

 

Richard Turner
 

Have you tried using the Picture Smart to read the screen with Jaws 2020?

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 7:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: how to get jaws to read image src.

 

Hi,

 

This goes back to something i posted here before.

I have a buffalo link station ls440 nas device.

Whenever you need to shut it down, you are asked for a 4 digit number.

This is displayed on the screen as four images.

However, the alt attribute for each of these numbers is “number_1” “number_2” etc.

This alt attribute is assigned when the confirmation number is asked for.

So, if you try to shut it down you could get a number like 1234.

The next time it could be 4321.

However, the alt attribute always remains at “number_1” “number_2” etc.

Therefore, you don’t know what number is actually displayed.

Tried custom label, graphics labeller, hight and width of graphics, show hide tagged etc.

Nothing works.

However, by examining the element in my browser, i have determined, that the actual image file is the actual number.

e.g. if the first number being displayed on screen is the number 6:

the img tag will be:

<img alt=”number_1” src=”num6.jpg”>

So, if i could force jaws to read the actual name of the file, it would indicate to me what the four numbers actually are.

I have tried every setting i can find both in the default application settings and the browser specific settings in relation to graphics.

Nothing works!!

This is the same for jaws 2018 and 2020.

Jaws has a scripting language.

Has anyone ever used this to force something?

I have programming experience, but i haven’t had the need to script anything for jaws yet.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

What i cannot understand, is why jaws wont assign a custom label to it. Afterall, its just an image tag!!

 

pat

 

Patrick Murphy
 

No, can you tell me where this is?

 

pat

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday 31 July 2020 15:08
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to get jaws to read image src.

 

Have you tried using the Picture Smart to read the screen with Jaws 2020?

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 7:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: how to get jaws to read image src.

 

Hi,

 

This goes back to something i posted here before.

I have a buffalo link station ls440 nas device.

Whenever you need to shut it down, you are asked for a 4 digit number.

This is displayed on the screen as four images.

However, the alt attribute for each of these numbers is “number_1” “number_2” etc.

This alt attribute is assigned when the confirmation number is asked for.

So, if you try to shut it down you could get a number like 1234.

The next time it could be 4321.

However, the alt attribute always remains at “number_1” “number_2” etc.

Therefore, you don’t know what number is actually displayed.

Tried custom label, graphics labeller, hight and width of graphics, show hide tagged etc.

Nothing works.

However, by examining the element in my browser, i have determined, that the actual image file is the actual number.

e.g. if the first number being displayed on screen is the number 6:

the img tag will be:

<img alt=”number_1” src=”num6.jpg”>

So, if i could force jaws to read the actual name of the file, it would indicate to me what the four numbers actually are.

I have tried every setting i can find both in the default application settings and the browser specific settings in relation to graphics.

Nothing works!!

This is the same for jaws 2018 and 2020.

Jaws has a scripting language.

Has anyone ever used this to force something?

I have programming experience, but i haven’t had the need to script anything for jaws yet.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

What i cannot understand, is why jaws wont assign a custom label to it. Afterall, its just an image tag!!

 

pat

 

Richard Turner
 

It is a layered keystroke.

Insert+spacebar, then p.

Here are the helps if you do insert+p then question mark.

The following commands are available in the Picture Smart layer.

Acquire and describe an image from a Scanner or Freedom Scientific Camera such as PEARL, using the letter A.

From Windows Explorer, you can describe any image file using the letter F.

From the computer screen or application, you can describe a Control with the letter C.

An image on the clipboard can be described using the letter B.

An image can be described by saving it to the "PictureSmart" directory in your User's "Pictures" folder

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 8:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to get jaws to read image src.

 

No, can you tell me where this is?

 

pat

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday 31 July 2020 15:08
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to get jaws to read image src.

 

Have you tried using the Picture Smart to read the screen with Jaws 2020?

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 7:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: how to get jaws to read image src.

 

Hi,

 

This goes back to something i posted here before.

I have a buffalo link station ls440 nas device.

Whenever you need to shut it down, you are asked for a 4 digit number.

This is displayed on the screen as four images.

However, the alt attribute for each of these numbers is “number_1” “number_2” etc.

This alt attribute is assigned when the confirmation number is asked for.

So, if you try to shut it down you could get a number like 1234.

The next time it could be 4321.

However, the alt attribute always remains at “number_1” “number_2” etc.

Therefore, you don’t know what number is actually displayed.

Tried custom label, graphics labeller, hight and width of graphics, show hide tagged etc.

Nothing works.

However, by examining the element in my browser, i have determined, that the actual image file is the actual number.

e.g. if the first number being displayed on screen is the number 6:

the img tag will be:

<img alt=”number_1” src=”num6.jpg”>

So, if i could force jaws to read the actual name of the file, it would indicate to me what the four numbers actually are.

I have tried every setting i can find both in the default application settings and the browser specific settings in relation to graphics.

Nothing works!!

This is the same for jaws 2018 and 2020.

Jaws has a scripting language.

Has anyone ever used this to force something?

I have programming experience, but i haven’t had the need to script anything for jaws yet.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

What i cannot understand, is why jaws wont assign a custom label to it. Afterall, its just an image tag!!

 

pat

 

Patrick Murphy
 

Hi Richard,

 

Thanks so much for the info.

 

I tried this, and jaws tells me that picture smart is not available in trial versions.

I have jaws 2020, latest version.

There does not seem to be any mention on freedom scientific’s web site about why this would not be available.

Surely, the point of a trial, is to try out all the functions!!!

 

Any ideas?

 

Regards,

 

Pat

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday 31 July 2020 21:16
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to get jaws to read image src.

 

It is a layered keystroke.

Insert+spacebar, then p.

Here are the helps if you do insert+p then question mark.

The following commands are available in the Picture Smart layer.

Acquire and describe an image from a Scanner or Freedom Scientific Camera such as PEARL, using the letter A.

From Windows Explorer, you can describe any image file using the letter F.

From the computer screen or application, you can describe a Control with the letter C.

An image on the clipboard can be described using the letter B.

An image can be described by saving it to the "PictureSmart" directory in your User's "Pictures" folder

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 8:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to get jaws to read image src.

 

No, can you tell me where this is?

 

pat

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday 31 July 2020 15:08
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to get jaws to read image src.

 

Have you tried using the Picture Smart to read the screen with Jaws 2020?

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 7:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: how to get jaws to read image src.

 

Hi,

 

This goes back to something i posted here before.

I have a buffalo link station ls440 nas device.

Whenever you need to shut it down, you are asked for a 4 digit number.

This is displayed on the screen as four images.

However, the alt attribute for each of these numbers is “number_1” “number_2” etc.

This alt attribute is assigned when the confirmation number is asked for.

So, if you try to shut it down you could get a number like 1234.

The next time it could be 4321.

However, the alt attribute always remains at “number_1” “number_2” etc.

Therefore, you don’t know what number is actually displayed.

Tried custom label, graphics labeller, hight and width of graphics, show hide tagged etc.

Nothing works.

However, by examining the element in my browser, i have determined, that the actual image file is the actual number.

e.g. if the first number being displayed on screen is the number 6:

the img tag will be:

<img alt=”number_1” src=”num6.jpg”>

So, if i could force jaws to read the actual name of the file, it would indicate to me what the four numbers actually are.

I have tried every setting i can find both in the default application settings and the browser specific settings in relation to graphics.

Nothing works!!

This is the same for jaws 2018 and 2020.

Jaws has a scripting language.

Has anyone ever used this to force something?

I have programming experience, but i haven’t had the need to script anything for jaws yet.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

What i cannot understand, is why jaws wont assign a custom label to it. Afterall, its just an image tag!!

 

pat

 

Richard Turner
 

Yes, Write to Eric Damery, edamery@...
and ask him when a trial is not a trial.
I agree, it is silly to offer a trial without all functions being available.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Aug 1, 2020, at 1:09 AM, Patrick Murphy <murphy.patrick42@...> wrote:



Hi Richard,

 

Thanks so much for the info.

 

I tried this, and jaws tells me that picture smart is not available in trial versions.

I have jaws 2020, latest version.

There does not seem to be any mention on freedom scientific’s web site about why this would not be available.

Surely, the point of a trial, is to try out all the functions!!!

 

Any ideas?

 

Regards,

 

Pat

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday 31 July 2020 21:16
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to get jaws to read image src.

 

It is a layered keystroke.

Insert+spacebar, then p.

Here are the helps if you do insert+p then question mark.

The following commands are available in the Picture Smart layer.

Acquire and describe an image from a Scanner or Freedom Scientific Camera such as PEARL, using the letter A.

From Windows Explorer, you can describe any image file using the letter F.

From the computer screen or application, you can describe a Control with the letter C.

An image on the clipboard can be described using the letter B.

An image can be described by saving it to the "PictureSmart" directory in your User's "Pictures" folder

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 8:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to get jaws to read image src.

 

No, can you tell me where this is?

 

pat

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday 31 July 2020 15:08
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to get jaws to read image src.

 

Have you tried using the Picture Smart to read the screen with Jaws 2020?

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 7:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: how to get jaws to read image src.

 

Hi,

 

This goes back to something i posted here before.

I have a buffalo link station ls440 nas device.

Whenever you need to shut it down, you are asked for a 4 digit number.

This is displayed on the screen as four images.

However, the alt attribute for each of these numbers is “number_1” “number_2” etc.

This alt attribute is assigned when the confirmation number is asked for.

So, if you try to shut it down you could get a number like 1234.

The next time it could be 4321.

However, the alt attribute always remains at “number_1” “number_2” etc.

Therefore, you don’t know what number is actually displayed.

Tried custom label, graphics labeller, hight and width of graphics, show hide tagged etc.

Nothing works.

However, by examining the element in my browser, i have determined, that the actual image file is the actual number.

e.g. if the first number being displayed on screen is the number 6:

the img tag will be:

<img alt=”number_1” src=”num6.jpg”>

So, if i could force jaws to read the actual name of the file, it would indicate to me what the four numbers actually are.

I have tried every setting i can find both in the default application settings and the browser specific settings in relation to graphics.

Nothing works!!

This is the same for jaws 2018 and 2020.

Jaws has a scripting language.

Has anyone ever used this to force something?

I have programming experience, but i haven’t had the need to script anything for jaws yet.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

What i cannot understand, is why jaws wont assign a custom label to it. Afterall, its just an image tag!!

 

pat