moderated getting jaws to pronounce the euros symbol.


Patrick Murphy
 

hi,
can anyone help me with this?
i know, that the shortcut key in windows for the euros symbol is ctrl-alt-e.
however, when i press this shortcut, jaws says "e ecute".
i know this sounds funny, but it is saying the letter "e" with some sort of symbol after it, like a french accent or something like that.
i was able to get it to say "euros sign" before with this combination.
i have searched the settings center up and down, and i cannot find anything.
please, please, please help me before i go insane!!!
i am using jaws 2021 latest version.
it is not related to any particular program, it happens for everything.

regards and thanks,

patrick


 

The problem here is that CTRL + ALT + E is not a Windows shortcut for the Euro symbol, but it is a shortcut for same in MS-Word (or, more accurately, in Office programs).

If you need to use the Euro symbol very frequently and you don't have a keyboard with native support for the symbol, it makes sense to use a key remapping utility like Microsoft PowerToys (it's one among the PowerToys) or SharpKeys to remap some seldom used or never used key to the Euro Symbol.

It's also possible to generate it using ALT + [Number pad digits] 0128, but for a screen reader user that means quickly toggling on Num Lock for the number pad which is not only a PITA, but will almost certainly lead to a mess at some point when it isn't toggled back off again and you start issuing typical screen reader commands using the number pad in non-number mode.
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NFB Lab 4
 

Try using your jaws key in the number line for to open up special symbols then arrow down to euro you may be able to do the first never let her navigation with the letter E.


On Jul 26, 2022, at 1:49 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

The problem here is that CTRL + ALT + E is not a Windows shortcut for the Euro symbol, but it is a shortcut for same in MS-Word (or, more accurately, in Office programs).

If you need to use the Euro symbol very frequently and you don't have a keyboard with native support for the symbol, it makes sense to use a key remapping utility like Microsoft PowerToys (it's one among the PowerToys) or SharpKeys to remap some seldom used or never used key to the Euro Symbol.

It's also possible to generate it using ALT + [Number pad digits] 0128, but for a screen reader user that means quickly toggling on Num Lock for the number pad which is not only a PITA, but will almost certainly lead to a mess at some point when it isn't toggled back off again and you start issuing typical screen reader commands using the number pad in non-number mode.
--

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Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.
     ~ Lauren Bacall


Soronel Haetir
 

I prefer jaws+4 for the rare times I need special characters.

On 7/26/22, NFB Lab 4 <nfbsc.lab.4@...> wrote:
Try using your jaws key in the number line for to open up special symbols
then arrow down to euro you may be able to do the first never let her
navigation with the letter E.
On Jul 26, 2022, at 1:49 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

The problem here is that CTRL + ALT + E is not a Windows shortcut for the
Euro symbol, but it is a shortcut for same in MS-Word (or, more
accurately, in Office programs).

If you need to use the Euro symbol very frequently and you don't have a
keyboard with native support for the symbol, it makes sense to use a key
remapping utility like Microsoft PowerToys (it's one among the PowerToys)
or SharpKeys to remap some seldom used or never used key to the Euro
Symbol.

It's also possible to generate it using ALT + [Number pad digits] 0128,
but for a screen reader user that means quickly toggling on Num Lock for
the number pad which is not only a PITA, but will almost certainly lead to
a mess at some point when it isn't toggled back off again and you start
issuing typical screen reader commands using the number pad in non-number
mode.
--
Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If
you’re alive, it isn’t.
~ Lauren Bacall




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Adrian Spratt
 

Absolutely, assuming the symbol is in the list. It happens that "Euros" is. As Soronel says, press JAWS key+4 above the letters, then repeatedly the letter "e" until Euros is verbalized.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2022 2:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting jaws to pronounce the euros symbol.

I prefer jaws+4 for the rare times I need special characters.

On 7/26/22, NFB Lab 4 <nfbsc.lab.4@...> wrote:
Try using your jaws key in the number line for to open up special
symbols then arrow down to euro you may be able to do the first never
let her navigation with the letter E.
On Jul 26, 2022, at 1:49 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

The problem here is that CTRL + ALT + E is not a Windows shortcut
for the Euro symbol, but it is a shortcut for same in MS-Word (or,
more accurately, in Office programs).

If you need to use the Euro symbol very frequently and you don't have
a keyboard with native support for the symbol, it makes sense to use
a key remapping utility like Microsoft PowerToys (it's one among the
PowerToys) or SharpKeys to remap some seldom used or never used key
to the Euro Symbol.

It's also possible to generate it using ALT + [Number pad digits]
0128, but for a screen reader user that means quickly toggling on Num
Lock for the number pad which is not only a PITA, but will almost
certainly lead to a mess at some point when it isn't toggled back off
again and you start issuing typical screen reader commands using the
number pad in non-number mode.
--
Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Here is a test
to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re
alive, it isn’t.
~ Lauren Bacall





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Soronel Haetir
 

Since the Euro symbol is at the end of the list of 'e' symbols I
prefer typing 'f' then up-arrow

On 7/26/22, Adrian Spratt <adrian@...> wrote:
Absolutely, assuming the symbol is in the list. It happens that "Euros" is.
As Soronel says, press JAWS key+4 above the letters, then repeatedly the
letter "e" until Euros is verbalized.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2022 2:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting jaws to pronounce the euros symbol.

I prefer jaws+4 for the rare times I need special characters.

On 7/26/22, NFB Lab 4 <nfbsc.lab.4@...> wrote:
Try using your jaws key in the number line for to open up special
symbols then arrow down to euro you may be able to do the first never
let her navigation with the letter E.
On Jul 26, 2022, at 1:49 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

The problem here is that CTRL + ALT + E is not a Windows shortcut
for the Euro symbol, but it is a shortcut for same in MS-Word (or,
more accurately, in Office programs).

If you need to use the Euro symbol very frequently and you don't have
a keyboard with native support for the symbol, it makes sense to use
a key remapping utility like Microsoft PowerToys (it's one among the
PowerToys) or SharpKeys to remap some seldom used or never used key
to the Euro Symbol.

It's also possible to generate it using ALT + [Number pad digits]
0128, but for a screen reader user that means quickly toggling on Num
Lock for the number pad which is not only a PITA, but will almost
certainly lead to a mess at some point when it isn't toggled back off
again and you start issuing typical screen reader commands using the
number pad in non-number mode.
--
Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Here is a test
to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re
alive, it isn’t.
~ Lauren Bacall





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soronel.haetir@...


Adrian Spratt
 

Even better!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2022 3:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting jaws to pronounce the euros symbol.

Since the Euro symbol is at the end of the list of 'e' symbols I prefer typing 'f' then up-arrow

On 7/26/22, Adrian Spratt <adrian@...> wrote:
Absolutely, assuming the symbol is in the list. It happens that "Euros" is.
As Soronel says, press JAWS key+4 above the letters, then repeatedly
the letter "e" until Euros is verbalized.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Soronel
Haetir
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2022 2:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting jaws to pronounce the euros symbol.

I prefer jaws+4 for the rare times I need special characters.

On 7/26/22, NFB Lab 4 <nfbsc.lab.4@...> wrote:
Try using your jaws key in the number line for to open up special
symbols then arrow down to euro you may be able to do the first never
let her navigation with the letter E.
On Jul 26, 2022, at 1:49 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

The problem here is that CTRL + ALT + E is not a Windows shortcut
for the Euro symbol, but it is a shortcut for same in MS-Word (or,
more accurately, in Office programs).

If you need to use the Euro symbol very frequently and you don't
have a keyboard with native support for the symbol, it makes sense
to use a key remapping utility like Microsoft PowerToys (it's one
among the
PowerToys) or SharpKeys to remap some seldom used or never used key
to the Euro Symbol.

It's also possible to generate it using ALT + [Number pad digits]
0128, but for a screen reader user that means quickly toggling on
Num Lock for the number pad which is not only a PITA, but will
almost certainly lead to a mess at some point when it isn't toggled
back off again and you start issuing typical screen reader commands
using the number pad in non-number mode.
--
Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Here is a test
to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re
alive, it isn’t.
~ Lauren Bacall





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soronel.haetir@...


Artur Räpp
 

Hi,

Windows shortcut should be (US-English keyboard layout)
Right CTRL+left ALT+e
Only right CTRL and Left alt, no other combinations. That works here at least.

Artur

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2022 10:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting jaws to pronounce the euros symbol.

Even better!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2022 3:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting jaws to pronounce the euros symbol.

Since the Euro symbol is at the end of the list of 'e' symbols I prefer typing 'f' then up-arrow

On 7/26/22, Adrian Spratt <adrian@...> wrote:
Absolutely, assuming the symbol is in the list. It happens that "Euros" is.
As Soronel says, press JAWS key+4 above the letters, then repeatedly
the letter "e" until Euros is verbalized.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Soronel
Haetir
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2022 2:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting jaws to pronounce the euros symbol.

I prefer jaws+4 for the rare times I need special characters.

On 7/26/22, NFB Lab 4 <nfbsc.lab.4@...> wrote:
Try using your jaws key in the number line for to open up special
symbols then arrow down to euro you may be able to do the first never
let her navigation with the letter E.
On Jul 26, 2022, at 1:49 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

The problem here is that CTRL + ALT + E is not a Windows shortcut
for the Euro symbol, but it is a shortcut for same in MS-Word (or,
more accurately, in Office programs).

If you need to use the Euro symbol very frequently and you don't
have a keyboard with native support for the symbol, it makes sense
to use a key remapping utility like Microsoft PowerToys (it's one
among the
PowerToys) or SharpKeys to remap some seldom used or never used key
to the Euro Symbol.

It's also possible to generate it using ALT + [Number pad digits]
0128, but for a screen reader user that means quickly toggling on
Num Lock for the number pad which is not only a PITA, but will
almost certainly lead to a mess at some point when it isn't toggled
back off again and you start issuing typical screen reader commands
using the number pad in non-number mode.
--
Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Here is a test
to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re
alive, it isn’t.
~ Lauren Bacall





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Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@...


 

I haven't played with Keyboard Manager in PowerToys for ages, but it has vastly improved and allows you to either globally remap a key if you have need for something like the Euro symbol on a constant basis and never use, say, the tilde.  It also allows you to remap keys only when you're using a given application.

One word of warning is that this particular latest version of PowerToys is glacially slow to install, but is snappy to use when it's running.
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Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.
     ~ Lauren Bacall


 

On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 03:21 PM, Artur Räpp wrote:
Windows shortcut should be (US-English keyboard layout)
Right CTRL+left ALT+e
-
I will repeat, this is NOT a Windows level shortcut.  It is a Microsoft Office Shortcut.  It will not work in Notepad, a web browser edit field, or any program that is not a part of the Microsoft Office suite of programs.  This is documented by Microsoft.

It this is working outside of Office then some sort of key remapping has already been performed and there are multiple ways to potentially achieve such a remapping.
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Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.
     ~ Lauren Bacall


Artur Räpp
 

Hi,

 

I tried it in notepad and it worked. no key remapping is done here. In fact it does not depends on Windows, it depends on keyboard layout. For example there are 2 different key combinations for euro sign in Estonian keyboard layout.  It seems that one of them works in US-English keyboard layout too.

 

Artur

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2022 10:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting jaws to pronounce the euros symbol.

 

On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 03:21 PM, Artur Räpp wrote:

Windows shortcut should be (US-English keyboard layout)
Right CTRL+left ALT+e

-
I will repeat, this is NOT a Windows level shortcut.  It is a Microsoft Office Shortcut.  It will not work in Notepad, a web browser edit field, or any program that is not a part of the Microsoft Office suite of programs.  This is documented by Microsoft.

It this is working outside of Office then some sort of key remapping has already been performed and there are multiple ways to potentially achieve such a remapping.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.
     ~ Lauren Bacall


Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

Hi Patrick/all,

Unfortunately I do not know why, but in my case, writing from Greece=eurozone, jaws always says euro when I use this combination. Hope someone understands and can be of greater help.

                                                                Cheers, Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of murphy.patrick42@...
Sent: Τρίτη, 26 Ιουλίου 2022 12:01
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting jaws to pronounce the euros symbol.

 

hi,
can anyone help me with this?
i know, that the shortcut key in windows for the euros symbol is ctrl-alt-e.
however, when i press this shortcut, jaws says "e ecute".
i know this sounds funny, but it is saying the letter "e" with some sort of symbol after it, like a french accent or something like that.
i was able to get it to say "euros sign" before with this combination.
i have searched the settings center up and down, and i cannot find anything.
please, please, please help me before i go insane!!!
i am using jaws 2021 latest version.
it is not related to any particular program, it happens for everything.

regards and thanks,

patrick


Patrick Murphy
 

hi,

 

i found a way around it.

here it is.

insert+j to get to the jaws menu.

expand utilities.

go to the dictionary manager.

ctrl+shift+d to open the default.

select add.

in the first box press ctrl+alt+e.

in the second box press ctrl+alt+4 (in my case this also generates a euros symbol).

then add it.

 

now, you can jump around with excitement!!!

jaws will now say "euro sign" for everything, even if you press it on your desktop for no reason.

it maps everywhere.

 

just to note, everything for my windows 10 (latest version with all updates) is set to ireland, date, time, keyboard etc.

i am from ireland, so this makes perfect sense.

however, i have found out from time to time, that freedom scientific seems to forget that irish people exist, when it comes to jaws.

 

anyway, thanks to you all.

i hope this helps someone else.

 

regards and thanks,

 

patrick

 

Sent from my gmail account.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Wednesday 27 July 2022 06:28
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting jaws to pronounce the euros symbol.

 

Hi Patrick/all,

Unfortunately I do not know why, but in my case, writing from Greece=eurozone, jaws always says euro when I use this combination. Hope someone understands and can be of greater help.

                                                                Cheers, Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of murphy.patrick42@...
Sent: Τρίτη, 26 Ιουλίου 2022 12:01
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting jaws to pronounce the euros symbol.

 

hi,
can anyone help me with this?
i know, that the shortcut key in windows for the euros symbol is ctrl-alt-e.
however, when i press this shortcut, jaws says "e ecute".
i know this sounds funny, but it is saying the letter "e" with some sort of symbol after it, like a french accent or something like that.
i was able to get it to say "euros sign" before with this combination.
i have searched the settings center up and down, and i cannot find anything.
please, please, please help me before i go insane!!!
i am using jaws 2021 latest version.
it is not related to any particular program, it happens for everything.

regards and thanks,

patrick


Adrian Spratt
 

Takis, did you see Soronel’s JAWS key+4 suggestion? This key combo brings up a list of symbols. It isn’t exhaustive, but it does include the euro. As Soronel suggests, once the list is opened, press f to go to the first item after the euro, then up-arrow once to euro. (I realize I’m assuming the same options appear in your version, which may not be the case.)

 

--

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 1:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting jaws to pronounce the euros symbol.

 

Hi Patrick/all,

Unfortunately I do not know why, but in my case, writing from Greece=eurozone, jaws always says euro when I use this combination. Hope someone understands and can be of greater help.

                                                                Cheers, Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of murphy.patrick42@...
Sent: Τρίτη, 26 Ιουλίου 2022 12:01
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting jaws to pronounce the euros symbol.

 

hi,
can anyone help me with this?
i know, that the shortcut key in windows for the euros symbol is ctrl-alt-e.
however, when i press this shortcut, jaws says "e ecute".
i know this sounds funny, but it is saying the letter "e" with some sort of symbol after it, like a french accent or something like that.
i was able to get it to say "euros sign" before with this combination.
i have searched the settings center up and down, and i cannot find anything.
please, please, please help me before i go insane!!!
i am using jaws 2021 latest version.
it is not related to any particular program, it happens for everything.

regards and thanks,

patrick


Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

Hi Adrian/all,

My congratulations for having your novel published Adrian, this is good. I have always maintained a dream of writing a something either a silly novel, or something on the middle ages onboard a steamer cruising the seas and ports of the world, with me maintaining a luxury  cabin where I could work, spending my time with writing, visiting places, eating bestially and being entertained in the company of pleasant ladies

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Τετάρτη, 27 Ιουλίου 2022 15:41
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting jaws to pronounce the euros symbol.

!!! Now to our points. Actually it has been within office that I have used the symbol, I use left cntrl-alt-e, or same combination with epsilon when on a Greek keyboard, but perhaps this is because I have a laptop keyboard in jaws? However, I am almost always using an office program when I need to use that symbol, so there may be a point, although I think I have produced the same effect outside office once. That’s why I said to Patrick that it seems that I am always getting the euro symbol without having done anything particular.

                                                                Cheers to all,

                                                                Takis

Takis, did you see Soronel’s JAWS key+4 suggestion? This key combo brings up a list of symbols. It isn’t exhaustive, but it does include the euro. As Soronel suggests, once the list is opened, press f to go to the first item after the euro, then up-arrow once to euro. (I realize I’m assuming the same options appear in your version, which may not be the case.)

 

--

My novel Caroline is now available in paperback, Kindle and audiobook versions and, for qualified readers in the US, at the National Library Service/BARD. Go to: https://adrianspratt.com/book/

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 1:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting jaws to pronounce the euros symbol.

 

Hi Patrick/all,

Unfortunately I do not know why, but in my case, writing from Greece=eurozone, jaws always says euro when I use this combination. Hope someone understands and can be of greater help.

                                                                Cheers, Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of murphy.patrick42@...
Sent: Τρίτη, 26 Ιουλίου 2022 12:01
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting jaws to pronounce the euros symbol.

 

hi,
can anyone help me with this?
i know, that the shortcut key in windows for the euros symbol is ctrl-alt-e.
however, when i press this shortcut, jaws says "e ecute".
i know this sounds funny, but it is saying the letter "e" with some sort of symbol after it, like a french accent or something like that.
i was able to get it to say "euros sign" before with this combination.
i have searched the settings center up and down, and i cannot find anything.
please, please, please help me before i go insane!!!
i am using jaws 2021 latest version.
it is not related to any particular program, it happens for everything.

regards and thanks,

patrick