Moderated finding time with jaws


Rahul Bajaj
 

Hi,

I use JAWS 2022. When I press insert+f12 to find out the time, JAWS says nothing in response. How can I find out the current time using a keystroke on my Windows laptop?

Rahul

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Rahul Bajaj
Attorney, Ira Law
Senior Associate Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018), University of Oxford
Co-Founder, Mission Accessibility
Special Correspondent on the rights of persons with disabilities, Oxford Human Rights Hub
Coordinator of the working group on accessibility, e-Committee, Supreme Court of India





Bill White
 

Hi, Rahul. Depending on what laptop you have, you must either press a keystroke such as FN plus ESCAPE (if it is a Dell), or maybe left Shift Key plus ESCAPE, or you may need a sighted person to go into the BIOS before Windows boots up, and disable "Action Keys" in order for you to get the legacy function key behavior you are wanting.

 

Bill White

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 6:15 PM
To: main
Subject: finding time with jaws

 

Hi,

 

I use JAWS 2022. When I press insert+f12 to find out the time, JAWS says nothing in response. How can I find out the current time using a keystroke on my Windows laptop?

 

Rahul

 

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Rahul Bajaj
Attorney, Ira Law

Senior Associate Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018), University of Oxford

Co-Founder, Mission Accessibility

Special Correspondent on the rights of persons with disabilities, Oxford Human Rights Hub

Coordinator of the working group on accessibility, e-Committee, Supreme Court of India





Rahul Bajaj
 

thanks bill. fn please insert plus f12 simply says f12 and opens dev tools. pressing escape plus f12 says page down.

rahul

On Fri, 3 Feb 2023 at 07:54, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:

Hi, Rahul. Depending on what laptop you have, you must either press a keystroke such as FN plus ESCAPE (if it is a Dell), or maybe left Shift Key plus ESCAPE, or you may need a sighted person to go into the BIOS before Windows boots up, and disable "Action Keys" in order for you to get the legacy function key behavior you are wanting.

 

Bill White

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 6:15 PM
To: main
Subject: finding time with jaws

 

Hi,

 

I use JAWS 2022. When I press insert+f12 to find out the time, JAWS says nothing in response. How can I find out the current time using a keystroke on my Windows laptop?

 

Rahul

 

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Rahul Bajaj
Attorney, Ira Law

Senior Associate Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018), University of Oxford

Co-Founder, Mission Accessibility

Special Correspondent on the rights of persons with disabilities, Oxford Human Rights Hub

Coordinator of the working group on accessibility, e-Committee, Supreme Court of India






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Rahul Bajaj
Attorney, Ira Law
Senior Associate Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018), University of Oxford
Co-Founder, Mission Accessibility
Special Correspondent on the rights of persons with disabilities, Oxford Human Rights Hub
Coordinator of the working group on accessibility, e-Committee, Supreme Court of India





Bill White
 

Hi, Rahul. I was not clear, apparently. I am not asking you to press F12 at all, I am saying the FN key next to the CONTROL plus ESCAPE, or FN (next to the CONTROL key) plus the left Shift Key. Otherwise, you will need a sighted person to see the screen before Windows boots up, and go into BIOS, and disable Action Keys.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 6:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: finding time with jaws

 

thanks bill. fn please insert plus f12 simply says f12 and opens dev tools. pressing escape plus f12 says page down.

 

rahul

 

On Fri, 3 Feb 2023 at 07:54, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:

Hi, Rahul. Depending on what laptop you have, you must either press a keystroke such as FN plus ESCAPE (if it is a Dell), or maybe left Shift Key plus ESCAPE, or you may need a sighted person to go into the BIOS before Windows boots up, and disable "Action Keys" in order for you to get the legacy function key behavior you are wanting.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 6:15 PM
To: main
Subject: finding time with jaws

 

Hi,

 

I use JAWS 2022. When I press insert+f12 to find out the time, JAWS says nothing in response. How can I find out the current time using a keystroke on my Windows laptop?

 

Rahul

 

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Rahul Bajaj
Attorney, Ira Law

Senior Associate Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018), University of Oxford

Co-Founder, Mission Accessibility

Special Correspondent on the rights of persons with disabilities, Oxford Human Rights Hub

Coordinator of the working group on accessibility, e-Committee, Supreme Court of India




 

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Rahul Bajaj
Attorney, Ira Law

Senior Associate Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018), University of Oxford

Co-Founder, Mission Accessibility

Special Correspondent on the rights of persons with disabilities, Oxford Human Rights Hub

Coordinator of the working group on accessibility, e-Committee, Supreme Court of India





Curtis Chong
 

You are using the keystroke which gives the time and date. Since this is not working, there is a different issue. Suggest contacting Vispero Technical Support.

 

What has changed on your system? How long has this problem persisted?

 

Cordially,

 

Curtis Chong

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2023 7:15 PM
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: finding time with jaws

 

Hi,

 

I use JAWS 2022. When I press insert+f12 to find out the time, JAWS says nothing in response. How can I find out the current time using a keystroke on my Windows laptop?

 

Rahul

 

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Rahul Bajaj
Attorney, Ira Law

Senior Associate Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018), University of Oxford

Co-Founder, Mission Accessibility

Special Correspondent on the rights of persons with disabilities, Oxford Human Rights Hub

Coordinator of the working group on accessibility, e-Committee, Supreme Court of India





K0LNY
 


Hi, although it does not address the insert key issue, you can confirm that it is or is not the computer's secondary use of the F-keys, by trying:
caps lock F12
Assuming you are using laptop layout.
Glenn

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Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2023 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: finding time with jaws

thanks bill. fn please insert plus f12 simply says f12 and opens dev tools. pressing escape plus f12 says page down.

rahul

On Fri, 3 Feb 2023 at 07:54, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:

Hi, Rahul. Depending on what laptop you have, you must either press a keystroke such as FN plus ESCAPE (if it is a Dell), or maybe left Shift Key plus ESCAPE, or you may need a sighted person to go into the BIOS before Windows boots up, and disable "Action Keys" in order for you to get the legacy function key behavior you are wanting.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 6:15 PM
To: main
Subject: finding time with jaws

 

Hi,

 

I use JAWS 2022. When I press insert+f12 to find out the time, JAWS says nothing in response. How can I find out the current time using a keystroke on my Windows laptop?

 

Rahul

 

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Rahul Bajaj
Attorney, Ira Law

Senior Associate Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018), University of Oxford

Co-Founder, Mission Accessibility

Special Correspondent on the rights of persons with disabilities, Oxford Human Rights Hub

Coordinator of the working group on accessibility, e-Committee, Supreme Court of India






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Rahul Bajaj
Attorney, Ira Law
Senior Associate Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018), University of Oxford
Co-Founder, Mission Accessibility
Special Correspondent on the rights of persons with disabilities, Oxford Human Rights Hub
Coordinator of the working group on accessibility, e-Committee, Supreme Court of India





TJ McElroy gMail
 

Hi Bill,

If Rahul did not have access to a sighted person to help with

going into BIOS, and disabling
Action Keys.

would using an external keyboard and making sure Jaws was using the desktop keyboard layout,

be a useful fix, until he could get sighted help?

Thanks,

TJ


On 2/2/2023 9:49 PM, Bill White wrote:

Hi, Rahul. I was not clear, apparently. I am not asking you to press F12 at all, I am saying the FN key next to the CONTROL plus ESCAPE, or FN (next to the CONTROL key) plus the left Shift Key. Otherwise, you will need a sighted person to see the screen before Windows boots up, and go into BIOS, and disable Action Keys.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 6:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: finding time with jaws

 

thanks bill. fn please insert plus f12 simply says f12 and opens dev tools. pressing escape plus f12 says page down.

 

rahul

 

On Fri, 3 Feb 2023 at 07:54, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:

Hi, Rahul. Depending on what laptop you have, you must either press a keystroke such as FN plus ESCAPE (if it is a Dell), or maybe left Shift Key plus ESCAPE, or you may need a sighted person to go into the BIOS before Windows boots up, and disable "Action Keys" in order for you to get the legacy function key behavior you are wanting.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 6:15 PM
To: main
Subject: finding time with jaws

 

Hi,

 

I use JAWS 2022. When I press insert+f12 to find out the time, JAWS says nothing in response. How can I find out the current time using a keystroke on my Windows laptop?

 

Rahul

 

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Rahul Bajaj
Attorney, Ira Law

Senior Associate Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018), University of Oxford

Co-Founder, Mission Accessibility

Special Correspondent on the rights of persons with disabilities, Oxford Human Rights Hub

Coordinator of the working group on accessibility, e-Committee, Supreme Court of India




 

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Rahul Bajaj
Attorney, Ira Law

Senior Associate Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018), University of Oxford

Co-Founder, Mission Accessibility

Special Correspondent on the rights of persons with disabilities, Oxford Human Rights Hub

Coordinator of the working group on accessibility, e-Committee, Supreme Court of India






Bill White
 

Hi, TJ,. Yes, it would.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of TJ McElroy gMail
Sent: Friday, February 3, 2023 1:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: finding time with jaws

 

Hi Bill,

If Rahul did not have access to a sighted person to help with

going into BIOS, and disabling
Action Keys.

would using an external keyboard and making sure Jaws was using the desktop keyboard layout,

be a useful fix, until he could get sighted help?

Thanks,

TJ

On 2/2/2023 9:49 PM, Bill White wrote:

Hi, Rahul. I was not clear, apparently. I am not asking you to press F12 at all, I am saying the FN key next to the CONTROL plus ESCAPE, or FN (next to the CONTROL key) plus the left Shift Key. Otherwise, you will need a sighted person to see the screen before Windows boots up, and go into BIOS, and disable Action Keys.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 6:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: finding time with jaws

 

thanks bill. fn please insert plus f12 simply says f12 and opens dev tools. pressing escape plus f12 says page down.

 

rahul

 

On Fri, 3 Feb 2023 at 07:54, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:

Hi, Rahul. Depending on what laptop you have, you must either press a keystroke such as FN plus ESCAPE (if it is a Dell), or maybe left Shift Key plus ESCAPE, or you may need a sighted person to go into the BIOS before Windows boots up, and disable "Action Keys" in order for you to get the legacy function key behavior you are wanting.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 6:15 PM
To: main
Subject: finding time with jaws

 

Hi,

 

I use JAWS 2022. When I press insert+f12 to find out the time, JAWS says nothing in response. How can I find out the current time using a keystroke on my Windows laptop?

 

Rahul

 

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Rahul Bajaj
Attorney, Ira Law

Senior Associate Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018), University of Oxford

Co-Founder, Mission Accessibility

Special Correspondent on the rights of persons with disabilities, Oxford Human Rights Hub

Coordinator of the working group on accessibility, e-Committee, Supreme Court of India




 

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Rahul Bajaj
Attorney, Ira Law

Senior Associate Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018), University of Oxford

Co-Founder, Mission Accessibility

Special Correspondent on the rights of persons with disabilities, Oxford Human Rights Hub

Coordinator of the working group on accessibility, e-Committee, Supreme Court of India




 


Van Lant, Robin
 

Rahul,

On my HP Pavilion, I have to press the FN key, Insert and F12 together to have it say the time. If I don’t include the FN key, it toggles airplane mode.   

 

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thanks bill. fn please insert plus f12 simply says f12 and opens dev tools. pressing escape plus f12 says page down.

 

rahul

 

On Fri, 3 Feb 2023 at 07:54, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:

Hi, Rahul. Depending on what laptop you have, you must either press a keystroke such as FN plus ESCAPE (if it is a Dell), or maybe left Shift Key plus ESCAPE, or you may need a sighted person to go into the BIOS before Windows boots up, and disable "Action Keys" in order for you to get the legacy function key behavior you are wanting.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 6:15 PM
To: main
Subject: finding time with jaws

 

Hi,

 

I use JAWS 2022. When I press insert+f12 to find out the time, JAWS says nothing in response. How can I find out the current time using a keystroke on my Windows laptop?

 

Rahul

 

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--
Rahul Bajaj
Attorney, Ira Law

Senior Associate Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018), University of Oxford

Co-Founder, Mission Accessibility

Special Correspondent on the rights of persons with disabilities, Oxford Human Rights Hub

Coordinator of the working group on accessibility, e-Committee, Supreme Court of India




 

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Rahul Bajaj
Attorney, Ira Law

Senior Associate Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018), University of Oxford

Co-Founder, Mission Accessibility

Special Correspondent on the rights of persons with disabilities, Oxford Human Rights Hub

Coordinator of the working group on accessibility, e-Committee, Supreme Court of India






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