moderated extremely long links


leonard morris
 

I am using Jaws v2021. Which settings can I change to try and decrease spoken long links in Thunderbird email For example:


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Marty Hutchings
 

Yes, and I would like the same thing for links on web pages and anywhere there is a long string of alphanumerical strings.  I feel like I have wasted so much of my life waiting for an endless string to be read only to find out that at the end is a graphic, or the wrong link, or the element is unlabeled.  Very annoying indeed.

On 9/15/2021 12:28 AM, leonard morris wrote:
I am using Jaws v2021. Which settings can I change to try and decrease spoken long links in Thunderbird email For example:


qP3M9NjgyNzAzJmxpPSZlPWxtb3JyaXMxOTUzQGdtYWlsLmNvbSZwPTQ2ODg4NCZzdHBlPWRlZmF1bHQmdXRtX3Rlcm09MTYzMTY1MDM0NDYwOWQ1ZDk3YzczN2E3YiZ1dG1fc291cmNlPWNubl9GYXJlZWQlMjdzK0dsb2JhbCtCcmllZmluZyUyQytTZXB0LisxNCUyQysyMDIxJnV0bV9tZWRpdW09ZW1haWwmYnRfZWU9ejAlMkJmdHpKTTl2RW1ZY0lIeWtuRVdJR2RpZUVLSlclMkZnMk1vY2syRUJJY3pLM0hlU244amZLNkQ4aWJKZXhDZ08mYnRfdHM9MTYzMTY1MDM0NDYxMQ/sdcb9b1d5e




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Richard Turner
 

I'm not clear how you would tell Jaws what links you want read and which ones you don't.
The links you are talking about are great examples of crappy web page creation. They are not using a text tag so all you get is the full URL.

I would try contacting web sites concerning this.

I find it annoying as well, but I am not sure FS is responsible to create a work around for bad web site design.

I find it very annoying when there is a link to a document be it word or pdf, but it isn't made clear in the link, so you end up opening or downloading a document when you thought you were going to a web page. Again, poor web design/lazy coding.





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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 5:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: extremely long links

Yes, and I would like the same thing for links on web pages and anywhere there is a long string of alphanumerical strings.  I feel like I have wasted so much of my life waiting for an endless string to be read only to find out that at the end is a graphic, or the wrong link, or the element is unlabeled.  Very annoying indeed.

On 9/15/2021 12:28 AM, leonard morris wrote:
I am using Jaws v2021. Which settings can I change to try and decrease
spoken long links in Thunderbird email For example:


qP3M9NjgyNzAzJmxpPSZlPWxtb3JyaXMxOTUzQGdtYWlsLmNvbSZwPTQ2ODg4NCZzdHBlP
WRlZmF1bHQmdXRtX3Rlcm09MTYzMTY1MDM0NDYwOWQ1ZDk3YzczN2E3YiZ1dG1fc291cmN
lPWNubl9GYXJlZWQlMjdzK0dsb2JhbCtCcmllZmluZyUyQytTZXB0LisxNCUyQysyMDIxJ
nV0bV9tZWRpdW09ZW1haWwmYnRfZWU9ejAlMkJmdHpKTTl2RW1ZY0lIeWtuRVdJR2RpZUV
LSlclMkZnMk1vY2syRUJJY3pLM0hlU244amZLNkQ4aWJKZXhDZ08mYnRfdHM9MTYzMTY1M
DM0NDYxMQ/sdcb9b1d5e






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Thanks,
Lion Marty Hutchings
BOLD Secretary, Program Director and VIP Liaison
(262) 605-8981
mhutchings152730@gmail.com
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On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 10:59 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
The links you are talking about are great examples of crappy web page creation. They are not using a text tag so all you get is the full URL.
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No pun intended, but that's the long and the short of it.

The age of the "naked URL" is long dead and gone.  Any well-designed website uses what I dub "click-through" links with the descriptive text telling you what it is that you're clicking through for.

Even services like TinyURL get far less traffic than they once did as people have gotten used to typing the phrase they want to use as the text, selecting it, hitting CTRL + K to bring up the insert link dialog, and hitting OK.  It's no more steps and, in fact, it's usually fewer.

I also agree that, absent some very sophisticated and as-yet-unavailable AI component in screen readers, they can't and don't have a way to know what is, and is not, likely to be relevant and to omit "likely irrelevant" content from being announced.
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Mario
 

plus most modern browsers have some way of copying the underlying URL.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com]
Subject: extremely long links
Date: Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 11:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 10:59 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

The links you are talking about are great examples of crappy web
page creation. They are not using a text tag so all you get is the
full URL.

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No pun intended, but that's the long and the short of it.

The age of the "naked URL" is long dead and gone.  Any well-designed
website uses what I dub "click-through" links with the descriptive text
telling you what it is that you're clicking through for.

Even services like TinyURL get far less traffic than they once did as
people have gotten used to typing the phrase they want to use as the
text, selecting it, hitting CTRL + K to bring up the insert link dialog,
and hitting OK.  It's no more steps and, in fact, it's usually fewer.

I also agree that, absent some very sophisticated and as-yet-unavailable
AI component in screen readers, they can't and don't have a way to know
what is, and is not, likely to be relevant and to omit "likely
irrelevant" content from being announced.
--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

*/It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between
thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly
different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power
to connect the seemingly unconnected./*

    ~ William Plomer


 

On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 11:58 AM, Mario wrote:
plus most modern browsers have some way of copying the underlying URL.
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I literally don't know of any that don't.  If you have focus on a click-through URL and bring up the context menu in any browser I can think of, you'll be presented with an option to Copy Link Address (most Chromium-based browsers), or Copy Link (MS-Edge and Firefox).  Some even include an option to copy the text used rather than the URL itself.
 
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer