moderated End Insertion/Insertion


Ayers, David (ITCS)
 

Hello,

 

I updated JAWS to version 2022.2206.9 and  now JAWS reads a web app the following way.

 

End Insertion then the link on the page – insertion

 

I am guessing that these are tags on the page.  I am not sure why this is reading this way, but it did not do this in the previous build of version 2022.  This also only reads in this specific section of the page.  Does anyone know how I can stop Jaws from saying end insertion and insertion?

 

Thanks,

 

David Ayers

 


Bill White
 

Hi, David. What I have found that the Begin Insertion, and End Insertion announcements usually surround an ad on a webpage, which is not part of the page itself, but is put there as an advertisement. I don't know how to turn this off, but for me, it doesn't matter, because I want to know what has been inserted into the page, and what is not actually part of the page itself.

 

Bill White

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ayers, David (ITCS)
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2022 10:24 AM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: End Insertion/Insertion

 

Hello,

 

I updated JAWS to version 2022.2206.9 and  now JAWS reads a web app the following way.

 

End Insertion then the link on the page – insertion

 

I am guessing that these are tags on the page.  I am not sure why this is reading this way, but it did not do this in the previous build of version 2022.  This also only reads in this specific section of the page.  Does anyone know how I can stop Jaws from saying end insertion and insertion?

 

Thanks,

 

David Ayers

 


Gene Warner
 

You should be able to use JAWS' Flexible Web feature to filter out those insert, end insert tags and whatever is between them.

Gene...

On 7/20/2022 9:28 PM, Bill White wrote:
Hi, David. What I have found that the Begin Insertion, and End Insertion announcements usually surround an ad on a webpage, which is not part of the page itself, but is put there as an advertisement. I don't know how to turn this off, but for me, it doesn't matter, because I want to know what has been inserted into the page, and what is not actually part of the page itself.
Bill White
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*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Ayers, David (ITCS)
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 20, 2022 10:24 AM
*To:* 'main@jfw.groups.io'
*Subject:* End Insertion/Insertion
Hello,
I updated JAWS to version 2022.2206.9 and  now JAWS reads a web app the following way.
End Insertion then the link on the page – insertion
I am guessing that these are tags on the page.  I am not sure why this is reading this way, but it did not do this in the previous build of version 2022.  This also only reads in this specific section of the page.  Does anyone know how I can stop Jaws from saying end insertion and insertion?
Thanks,
David Ayers


Bill White
 

Hi, Gene. Yes, you can do that, but only page by page. It would be better if there were a setting that would suppress those announcements, the same way region and heading announcements can be suppressed.

Bill White

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2022 6:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: End Insertion/Insertion

You should be able to use JAWS' Flexible Web feature to filter out those
insert, end insert tags and whatever is between them.

Gene...


On 7/20/2022 9:28 PM, Bill White wrote:
Hi, David. What I have found that the Begin Insertion, and End Insertion
announcements usually surround an ad on a webpage, which is not part of
the page itself, but is put there as an advertisement. I don't know how
to turn this off, but for me, it doesn't matter, because I want to know
what has been inserted into the page, and what is not actually part of
the page itself.

Bill White

billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Ayers, David (ITCS)
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 20, 2022 10:24 AM
*To:* 'main@jfw.groups.io'
*Subject:* End Insertion/Insertion

Hello,

I updated JAWS to version 2022.2206.9 and now JAWS reads a web app the
following way.

End Insertion then the link on the page – insertion

I am guessing that these are tags on the page. I am not sure why this
is reading this way, but it did not do this in the previous build of
version 2022. This also only reads in this specific section of the
page. Does anyone know how I can stop Jaws from saying end insertion
and insertion?

Thanks,

David Ayers


Gene Warner
 

I seem to remember that you could set each rule to work for just that page, the entire site, or globally . I admit I played with Flexible Web when it was first introduced, but then turned it off, and that was quite a while ago so my memory might be questionable about it.

Gene...

On 7/20/2022 10:53 PM, Bill White wrote:
Hi, Gene. Yes, you can do that, but only page by page. It would be better if there were a setting that would suppress those announcements, the same way region and heading announcements can be suppressed.
Bill White
billwhite92701@...
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2022 6:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: End Insertion/Insertion
You should be able to use JAWS' Flexible Web feature to filter out those
insert, end insert tags and whatever is between them.
Gene...
On 7/20/2022 9:28 PM, Bill White wrote:
Hi, David. What I have found that the Begin Insertion, and End Insertion
announcements usually surround an ad on a webpage, which is not part of
the page itself, but is put there as an advertisement. I don't know how
to turn this off, but for me, it doesn't matter, because I want to know
what has been inserted into the page, and what is not actually part of
the page itself.

Bill White

billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Ayers, David (ITCS)
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 20, 2022 10:24 AM
*To:* 'main@jfw.groups.io'
*Subject:* End Insertion/Insertion

Hello,

I updated JAWS to version 2022.2206.9 and now JAWS reads a web app the
following way.

End Insertion then the link on the page – insertion

I am guessing that these are tags on the page. I am not sure why this
is reading this way, but it did not do this in the previous build of
version 2022. This also only reads in this specific section of the
page. Does anyone know how I can stop Jaws from saying end insertion
and insertion?

Thanks,

David Ayers


Cohn, Jonathan
 

While this might happen in some places, this sounds like a new JAWS feature related to tracking changes in documents. One place you might see this is on a  shopping site where the price is listed as 12.99 and then crossed out and a 8.99  price is glowing in your face. There is a rather new feature in HTML to indicate that. 
I would expect that the JAWS  features provided in Microsoft Word for reading with track changes should also control this on web pages, but I don't remember the details.


Tom Behler
 

I’ve been seeing this on certain web pages, and it’s actually quite anoying.

 

Does anyone know how this can be turned off?

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 6:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: End Insertion/Insertion

 

While this might happen in some places, this sounds like a new JAWS feature related to tracking changes in documents. One place you might see this is on a  shopping site where the price is listed as 12.99 and then crossed out and a 8.99  price is glowing in your face. There is a rather new feature in HTML to indicate that. 
I would expect that the JAWS  features provided in Microsoft Word for reading with track changes should also control this on web pages, but I don't remember the details.


Karen Reynolds
 

Hi Tom,

If I remember this from the program the other day these are inline frames. You don’t want to turn them off globally. It will turn off things like youtube videos in the middle of pages too. Go to setting center, use control shift W instread of d. Then type inline in the search box and arrow down and check or uncheck it. Press enter and then ok. It will be gone for that page. I’ve also discovered that sometimes f9 gives just the article and not those ads.

 

Karen

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 6:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: End Insertion/Insertion

 

I’ve been seeing this on certain web pages, and it’s actually quite anoying.

 

Does anyone know how this can be turned off?

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 6:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: End Insertion/Insertion

 

While this might happen in some places, this sounds like a new JAWS feature related to tracking changes in documents. One place you might see this is on a  shopping site where the price is listed as 12.99 and then crossed out and a 8.99  price is glowing in your face. There is a rather new feature in HTML to indicate that. 
I would expect that the JAWS  features provided in Microsoft Word for reading with track changes should also control this on web pages, but I don't remember the details.


Tom Behler
 

OK.

 

I don’t understand the purpose of those for web pages, since no editing with track changes is occurring.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 7:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: End Insertion/Insertion

 

Hi Tom,

If I remember this from the program the other day these are inline frames. You don’t want to turn them off globally. It will turn off things like youtube videos in the middle of pages too. Go to setting center, use control shift W instread of d. Then type inline in the search box and arrow down and check or uncheck it. Press enter and then ok. It will be gone for that page. I’ve also discovered that sometimes f9 gives just the article and not those ads.

 

Karen

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 6:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: End Insertion/Insertion

 

I’ve been seeing this on certain web pages, and it’s actually quite anoying.

 

Does anyone know how this can be turned off?

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 6:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: End Insertion/Insertion

 

While this might happen in some places, this sounds like a new JAWS feature related to tracking changes in documents. One place you might see this is on a  shopping site where the price is listed as 12.99 and then crossed out and a 8.99  price is glowing in your face. There is a rather new feature in HTML to indicate that. 
I would expect that the JAWS  features provided in Microsoft Word for reading with track changes should also control this on web pages, but I don't remember the details.


Karen Reynolds
 

Hi Tom,

I don’t understand all that either. It was in the presentation on Thursday on being more productive. I think the podcast will be put up in a week and you can listen to it there. Maybe it will make more sense then.

 

Karen

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 8:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: End Insertion/Insertion

 

OK.

 

I don’t understand the purpose of those for web pages, since no editing with track changes is occurring.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 7:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: End Insertion/Insertion

 

Hi Tom,

If I remember this from the program the other day these are inline frames. You don’t want to turn them off globally. It will turn off things like youtube videos in the middle of pages too. Go to setting center, use control shift W instread of d. Then type inline in the search box and arrow down and check or uncheck it. Press enter and then ok. It will be gone for that page. I’ve also discovered that sometimes f9 gives just the article and not those ads.

 

Karen

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 6:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: End Insertion/Insertion

 

I’ve been seeing this on certain web pages, and it’s actually quite anoying.

 

Does anyone know how this can be turned off?

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 6:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: End Insertion/Insertion

 

While this might happen in some places, this sounds like a new JAWS feature related to tracking changes in documents. One place you might see this is on a  shopping site where the price is listed as 12.99 and then crossed out and a 8.99  price is glowing in your face. There is a rather new feature in HTML to indicate that. 
I would expect that the JAWS  features provided in Microsoft Word for reading with track changes should also control this on web pages, but I don't remember the details.