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moderated Email Migration


Don Walls
 

    Today I installed the JAWS update without problems.  However, my server migrated my emails to Google Mail.  With help from a sighted friend and a tech guy at my server, we did the deed.  I note that since then my JFW list emails come to a spam folder.  Is there a way of altering this?
 
Don


 

Don,

            Not knowing how you're reading your e-mail messages, it's hard to be any more specific than this:  Virtually all webmail and e-mail clients have a "mark not spam" button/function for things that land in spam in appropriately.  Once you use that function a couple of times, that tends to fix it.

            I don't know exactly what you mean by "my server migrated me emails to Google Mail," in this context.  But you can definitely also set up a Gmail filter that says if something comes from the groups.io domain it should not be marked as spam.  That probably won't be necessary, though, if you unmark as spam for a day or two.  
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


netbat66
 

marking it as not spam doesn't always work with gmail.
i am on the nearby explorer group and i was marking it as not spam for months. both in wlm and in the gmail web mail and it would not stop.
i had to log on to gmail and create a filter useing the to field, not the from field. now this group is going to the normal in box.
the only thing i don't remember is if i am useing the simple html view on gmail or not.
with one you can setup this rule. with the other you can not.

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 11:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Email Migration

Don,

Not knowing how you're reading your e-mail messages, it's hard to be any more specific than this: Virtually all webmail and e-mail clients have a "mark not spam" button/function for things that land in spam in appropriately. Once you use that function a couple of times, that tends to fix it.

I don't know exactly what you mean by "my server migrated me emails to Google Mail," in this context. But you can definitely also set up a Gmail filter that says if something comes from the groups.io domain it should not be marked as spam. That probably won't be necessary, though, if you unmark as spam for a day or two.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041


The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
~ Lawrence Krauss


 

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 03:15 PM, netbat66 wrote:
marking it as not spam doesn't always work with gmail
I'm not arguing with you here, but I have never had this not work if I am doing so within Gmail webmail.  If a client is involved it depends on exactly what it communicates back to the Gmail server, and some don't communicate back that something has been unmarked as spam.

But, Gmail itself should not be marking Groups.io messages as spam anyway.  There has been a lot of direct interaction between Groups.io management and Google to get this to stop happening quite a while back.  I just turned on individual message delivery again for five different groups yesterday and not a one of the messages that resulted was classed as spam by Gmail itself via its webmail interface.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


Don Walls
 

Brian, thanks for your responses.  As always, thoughtful and to the point.  Curiously, both of your emails came to my In box, whereas nine others from the group came to the spam folder.  (Well, of course, nothing you send would ever be spam, chuckle.)
 
I’ve rooted around a bit but am not sure where to find the function to mark as not spam.  Any suggestions gladly received.
 
Don


 

Don,

           What are you using to read e-mail?   I would need to know exactly what webmail interface or email client before I could possibly give accurate assistance in this regard.  If it's an e-mail client, and it's not one I have installed, you may be out of luck.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


Don Walls
 

I’m using windows Live Mail.
 
Don


 

Don,

          I do have Windows Live Mail 2012 installed, but I would advise anyone, including you, that's attempting to use it with Gmail to switch to another, supported, email client that handles modern security protocols.

          I cannot even get Windows Live Mail 2012 to behave consistently with a Gmail account when the Google setting to allow less secure apps is turned on.  If it's off, it fails entirely.

          I've helped a lot of people get Windows Live Mail up and running even after it went out of support.  I won't be doing that going forward because it does appear to be getting flaky, which I knew would eventually happen.  I'm telling everyone to wash their hands of it, as matters will only continue to get worse with the passing of time.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


Don Walls
 

Brian, thanks for your adivce.  When I have someone who can help me with this, I will see about changing email formats.
 
Have a good weekend and stay healthy.
 
Don
 
P.S. I’ve had a few other JFW emails come into the In box, yet others go to the spam folder.  Curious!