moderated downgrading to Windows 10


Madison Martin
 

Hi all,
Can anyone tell me how I go back to Windows 10? Is it something that I can do
simply using Jaws and my braille display like when I do a Windows update, or
would I need sighted assistance? Upgrading is generally fairly easy/simple to do
(though I realize that this might not be the case for everyone) and if
downgrading is the same then I'd much rather do that then get help to uninstall
and then re-install Windows 11 because this seems far less risky and
nerve-wracking. Plus I didn't have this issue when using Windows 10 and Jaws
2022 and I know that Windows 10 will be supported for awhile longer. Really hope
someone can help me just as you have all tried to do to fix this issue, I really
appreciate it, I just wish that someone's suggestion had worked and then it
wouldn't have had to come to this. Thanks
Madison


stewartross <stewartross@...>
 

hi can someone tell me if i can use jaws 2020 with windows seven,
and re down grading i would also be interested to no re this.
stew

----- Original Message -----
From: "Madison Martin" <maddymartin@mymts.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2021 2:16 PM
Subject: downgrading to Windows 10


Hi all,
Can anyone tell me how I go back to Windows 10? Is it something that I can do
simply using Jaws and my braille display like when I do a Windows update, or
would I need sighted assistance? Upgrading is generally fairly easy/simple to do
(though I realize that this might not be the case for everyone) and if
downgrading is the same then I'd much rather do that then get help to uninstall
and then re-install Windows 11 because this seems far less risky and
nerve-wracking. Plus I didn't have this issue when using Windows 10 and Jaws
2022 and I know that Windows 10 will be supported for awhile longer. Really hope
someone can help me just as you have all tried to do to fix this issue, I really
appreciate it, I just wish that someone's suggestion had worked and then it
wouldn't have had to come to this. Thanks
Madison





T. Civitello
 

I have no problems with WLM running either Jaws 20 or 21. Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: stewartross via groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2021 7:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: downgrading to Windows 10

hi can someone tell me if i can use jaws 2020 DXwith windows seven,
and re down grading i would also be interested to no re this.
stew
----- Original Message -----
From: "Madison Martin" <maddymartin@mymts.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2021 2:16 PM
Subject: downgrading to Windows 10


Hi all,
Can anyone tell me how I go back to Windows 10? Is it something that I can do
simply using Jaws and my braille display like when I do a Windows update, or
would I need sighted assistance? Upgrading is generally fairly easy/simple to do
(though I realize that this might not be the case for everyone) and if
downgrading is the same then I'd much rather do that then get help to uninstall
and then re-install Windows 11 because this seems far less risky and
nerve-wracking. Plus I didn't have this issue when using Windows 10 and Jaws
2022 and I know that Windows 10 will be supported for awhile longer. Really hope
someone can help me just as you have all tried to do to fix this issue, I really
appreciate it, I just wish that someone's suggestion had worked and then it
wouldn't have had to come to this. Thanks
Madison






stewartross <stewartross@...>
 

so r u saying that i can upgrade from jaws 19 to 2020 using windows seven?
stew

----- Original Message -----
From: "T. Civitello" <tcivi31@comcast.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2021 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: downgrading to Windows 10


I have no problems with WLM running either Jaws 20 or 21. Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: stewartross via groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2021 7:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: downgrading to Windows 10

hi can someone tell me if i can use jaws 2020 DXwith windows seven,
and re down grading i would also be interested to no re this.
stew
----- Original Message -----
From: "Madison Martin" <maddymartin@mymts.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2021 2:16 PM
Subject: downgrading to Windows 10


Hi all,
Can anyone tell me how I go back to Windows 10? Is it something that I can do
simply using Jaws and my braille display like when I do a Windows update, or
would I need sighted assistance? Upgrading is generally fairly easy/simple to do
(though I realize that this might not be the case for everyone) and if
downgrading is the same then I'd much rather do that then get help to uninstall
and then re-install Windows 11 because this seems far less risky and
nerve-wracking. Plus I didn't have this issue when using Windows 10 and Jaws
2022 and I know that Windows 10 will be supported for awhile longer. Really hope
someone can help me just as you have all tried to do to fix this issue, I really
appreciate it, I just wish that someone's suggestion had worked and then it
wouldn't have had to come to this. Thanks
Madison













T. Civitello
 

Nope! I am saying that Windows Live Mail works for me with Jaws 2021
or 2020with Windows 10 or 7. Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: stewartross via groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2021 7:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: downgrading to Windows 10

so r u saying that i can upgrade from jaws 19 to 2020 using windows seven?
stew
----- Original Message -----
From: "T. Civitello" <tcivi31@comcast.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2021 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: downgrading to Windows 10


I have no problems with WLM running either Jaws 20 or 21. Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: stewartross via groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2021 7:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: downgrading to Windows 10

hi can someone tell me if i can use jaws 2020 DXwith windows seven,
and re down grading i would also be interested to no re this.
stew
----- Original Message -----
From: "Madison Martin" <maddymartin@mymts.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2021 2:16 PM
Subject: downgrading to Windows 10


Hi all,
Can anyone tell me how I go back to Windows 10? Is it something that I can do
simply using Jaws and my braille display like when I do a Windows update, or
would I need sighted assistance? Upgrading is generally fairly easy/simple to do
(though I realize that this might not be the case for everyone) and if
downgrading is the same then I'd much rather do that then get help to uninstall
and then re-install Windows 11 because this seems far less risky and
nerve-wracking. Plus I didn't have this issue when using Windows 10 and Jaws
2022 and I know that Windows 10 will be supported for awhile longer. Really hope
someone can help me just as you have all tried to do to fix this issue, I really
appreciate it, I just wish that someone's suggestion had worked and then it
wouldn't have had to come to this. Thanks
Madison














Glenn / Lenny
 

Yes you can, I'm using it with 7.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "stewartross via groups.io" <stewartross=sky.com@groups.io>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2021 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: downgrading to Windows 10


hi can someone tell me if i can use jaws 2020 with windows seven,
and re down grading i would also be interested to no re this.
stew
----- Original Message -----
From: "Madison Martin" <maddymartin@mymts.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2021 2:16 PM
Subject: downgrading to Windows 10


Hi all,
Can anyone tell me how I go back to Windows 10? Is it something that I can do
simply using Jaws and my braille display like when I do a Windows update, or
would I need sighted assistance? Upgrading is generally fairly easy/simple to do
(though I realize that this might not be the case for everyone) and if
downgrading is the same then I'd much rather do that then get help to uninstall
and then re-install Windows 11 because this seems far less risky and
nerve-wracking. Plus I didn't have this issue when using Windows 10 and Jaws
2022 and I know that Windows 10 will be supported for awhile longer. Really hope
someone can help me just as you have all tried to do to fix this issue, I really
appreciate it, I just wish that someone's suggestion had worked and then it
wouldn't have had to come to this. Thanks
Madison








Glenn / Lenny
 

You can.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "stewartross via groups.io" <stewartross=sky.com@groups.io>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2021 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: downgrading to Windows 10


so r u saying that i can upgrade from jaws 19 to 2020 using windows seven?
stew
----- Original Message -----
From: "T. Civitello" <tcivi31@comcast.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2021 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: downgrading to Windows 10


I have no problems with WLM running either Jaws 20 or 21. Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: stewartross via groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2021 7:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: downgrading to Windows 10

hi can someone tell me if i can use jaws 2020 DXwith windows seven,
and re down grading i would also be interested to no re this.
stew
----- Original Message -----
From: "Madison Martin" <maddymartin@mymts.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2021 2:16 PM
Subject: downgrading to Windows 10


Hi all,
Can anyone tell me how I go back to Windows 10? Is it something that I can do
simply using Jaws and my braille display like when I do a Windows update, or
would I need sighted assistance? Upgrading is generally fairly easy/simple to do
(though I realize that this might not be the case for everyone) and if
downgrading is the same then I'd much rather do that then get help to uninstall
and then re-install Windows 11 because this seems far less risky and
nerve-wracking. Plus I didn't have this issue when using Windows 10 and Jaws
2022 and I know that Windows 10 will be supported for awhile longer. Really hope
someone can help me just as you have all tried to do to fix this issue, I really
appreciate it, I just wish that someone's suggestion had worked and then it
wouldn't have had to come to this. Thanks
Madison
















stewartross <stewartross@...>
 

hi glen thanks

----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@ervin.email>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2021 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: downgrading to Windows 10


You can.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "stewartross via groups.io" <stewartross=sky.com@groups.io>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2021 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: downgrading to Windows 10


so r u saying that i can upgrade from jaws 19 to 2020 using windows seven?
stew
----- Original Message -----
From: "T. Civitello" <tcivi31@comcast.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2021 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: downgrading to Windows 10


I have no problems with WLM running either Jaws 20 or 21. Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: stewartross via groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2021 7:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: downgrading to Windows 10

hi can someone tell me if i can use jaws 2020 DXwith windows seven,
and re down grading i would also be interested to no re this.
stew
----- Original Message -----
From: "Madison Martin" <maddymartin@mymts.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2021 2:16 PM
Subject: downgrading to Windows 10


Hi all,
Can anyone tell me how I go back to Windows 10? Is it something that I can do
simply using Jaws and my braille display like when I do a Windows update, or
would I need sighted assistance? Upgrading is generally fairly easy/simple to do
(though I realize that this might not be the case for everyone) and if
downgrading is the same then I'd much rather do that then get help to uninstall
and then re-install Windows 11 because this seems far less risky and
nerve-wracking. Plus I didn't have this issue when using Windows 10 and Jaws
2022 and I know that Windows 10 will be supported for awhile longer. Really hope
someone can help me just as you have all tried to do to fix this issue, I really
appreciate it, I just wish that someone's suggestion had worked and then it
wouldn't have had to come to this. Thanks
Madison



















 

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 10:15 AM, Madison Martin wrote:
Can anyone tell me how I go back to Windows 10?
-
Posting this on three separate lists at the same time, particularly where there is significant overlap in the membership, is really not necessary.

On Posting to More Than One Online Support Forum for the Same Issue – AKA Forum Cross Posting

 
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


Chris
 

If its anything like win10 then you can restore back to your previous  operating system  under update and security  > backup

 

Thats if you haven’t deleted any of the previous os backups or later than 10 days

 

 

From: Madison Martin
Sent: 05 November 2021 14:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: downgrading to Windows 10

 

Hi all,

Can anyone tell me how I go back to Windows 10? Is it something that I can do

simply using Jaws and my braille display like when I do a Windows update, or

would I need sighted assistance? Upgrading is generally fairly easy/simple to do

(though I realize that this might not be the case for everyone) and if

downgrading is the same then I'd much rather do that then get help to uninstall

and then re-install Windows 11 because this seems far less risky and

nerve-wracking. Plus I didn't have this issue when using Windows 10 and Jaws

2022 and I know that Windows 10 will be supported for awhile longer. Really hope

someone can help me just as you have all tried to do to fix this issue, I really

appreciate it, I just wish that someone's suggestion had worked and then it

wouldn't have had to come to this. Thanks

Madison

 

 

 

 

 

 


Mario
 

I tend to disagree. Madison is simply multiposting, trying to get as many responces to her issue.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com]
Subject: downgrading to Windows 10
Date: Friday, November 5, 2021, 12:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 10:15 AM, Madison Martin wrote:

Can anyone tell me how I go back to Windows 10?

-
Posting this on three separate lists at the same time, particularly
where there is significant overlap in the membership, is really not
necessary.

On Posting to More Than One Online Support Forum for the Same Issue –
AKA Forum Cross Posting <https://www.excelguru.ca/content.php?184>


--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

*/It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between
thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly
different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power
to connect the seemingly unconnected./*

    ~ William Plomer


Glenn / Lenny
 

I think it can only be considered cross-posting if someone sends the same message to multiple lists in one message, by putting all groups in the CC or BCC fields.
If people cross-post by sending to multiple groups in one message, what can happen is when someone on the list replies, and their eMail client is sending to all, they are then also sending to a list that they may not belong to and will get an error message from that server.
But although annoying, I don't consider it cross-posting if the messages were sent separately.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2021 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: downgrading to Windows 10


I tend to disagree. Madison is simply multiposting, trying to get as
many responces to her issue.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com]
Subject: downgrading to Windows 10
Date: Friday, November 5, 2021, 12:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 10:15 AM, Madison Martin wrote:

Can anyone tell me how I go back to Windows 10?

-
Posting this on three separate lists at the same time, particularly
where there is significant overlap in the membership, is really not
necessary.

On Posting to More Than One Online Support Forum for the Same Issue â?"
AKA Forum Cross Posting <https://www.excelguru.ca/content.php?184>


--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

*/It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between
thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly
different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power
to connect the seemingly unconnected./*

   ~ William Plomer


 

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 12:41 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
But although annoying, I don't consider it cross-posting if the messages were sent separately.
-
Whether cross-posting, or multi-posting, the end result is the same.  And the article I referenced gives a better explanation of why this has been considered "poor form" for as long as I've been participating on technical support forums or emailing lists.

And the warning the gentleman who wrote that article gives is, I can assure you, quite true.  You can and will eventually be ignored once you have a reputation for multi-posting/cross-posting.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


Glenn / Lenny
 

True enough about not paying as much attention to a message that you get three times in your inbox.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2021 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: downgrading to Windows 10

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 12:41 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
But although annoying, I don't consider it cross-posting if the messages were sent separately.
-
Whether cross-posting, or multi-posting, the end result is the same.  And the article I referenced gives a better explanation of why this has been considered "poor form" for as long as I've been participating on technical support forums or emailing lists.

And the warning the gentleman who wrote that article gives is, I can assure you, quite true.  You can and will eventually be ignored once you have a reputation for multi-posting/cross-posting.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


Mario
 

oops. forgot:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting

Crossposting is the act of posting the same message to multiple information channels, such as forums, mailing lists, or newsgroups.
This is distinct from multiposting, which is the posting of separate identical messages, individually, to each channel, (a forum, a newsgroup, an email list, or topic area). Enforcement actions against crossposting individuals vary from simple admonishments up to total lifetime bans. In some cases, on email lists and forums, an individual is put under a Stealth Ban where their posts are distributed back to them as if they were being distributed normally, but the rest of the subscribers are not sent the messages.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@hotmail.com]
Subject: downgrading to Windows 10
Date: Friday, November 5, 2021, 12:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
I tend to disagree. Madison is simply multiposting, trying to get as
many responces to her issue.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com]
Subject: downgrading to Windows 10
Date: Friday, November 5, 2021, 12:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 10:15 AM, Madison Martin wrote:

    Can anyone tell me how I go back to Windows 10?

-
Posting this on three separate lists at the same time, particularly
where there is significant overlap in the membership, is really not
necessary.

On Posting to More Than One Online Support Forum for the Same Issue –
AKA Forum Cross Posting <https://www.excelguru.ca/content.php?184>


Glenn / Lenny
 

I think it is best to select the list that is best for a particular question.
If no results come from one after a day or so, then post to another list.
Or if posting to different lists at the same time, use a different subject and change your wording to best match the flavor of the list.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2021 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: downgrading to Windows 10


oops. forgot:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting

Crossposting is the act of posting the same message to multiple
information channels, such as forums, mailing lists, or newsgroups.
This is distinct from multiposting, which is the posting of separate
identical messages, individually, to each channel, (a forum, a
newsgroup, an email list, or topic area). Enforcement actions against
crossposting individuals vary from simple admonishments up to total
lifetime bans. In some cases, on email lists and forums, an individual
is put under a Stealth Ban where their posts are distributed back to
them as if they were being distributed normally, but the rest of the
subscribers are not sent the messages.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@hotmail.com]
Subject: downgrading to Windows 10
Date: Friday, November 5, 2021, 12:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
I tend to disagree. Madison is simply multiposting, trying to get as
many responces to her issue.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com]
Subject: downgrading to Windows 10
Date: Friday, November 5, 2021, 12:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 10:15 AM, Madison Martin wrote:

   Can anyone tell me how I go back to Windows 10?

-
Posting this on three separate lists at the same time, particularly
where there is significant overlap in the membership, is really not
necessary.

On Posting to More Than One Online Support Forum for the Same Issue â?"
AKA Forum Cross Posting <https://www.excelguru.ca/content.php?184>


Chris
 

But she is a serial cross / multi poster

Now and again is tolerable, but Everytime is annoying

 

I usually ignore those who post on multiple groups

With the same question

 

 

 

From: Mario
Sent: 05 November 2021 16:36
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: downgrading to Windows 10

 

I tend to disagree. Madison is simply multiposting, trying to get as

many responces to her issue.

 

-------- Original Message --------

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]

Subject: downgrading to Windows 10

Date: Friday, November 5, 2021, 12:24 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 10:15 AM, Madison Martin wrote:

 

     Can anyone tell me how I go back to Windows 10?

 

-

Posting this on three separate lists at the same time, particularly

where there is significant overlap in the membership, is really not

necessary.

 

On Posting to More Than One Online Support Forum for the Same Issue –

AKA Forum Cross Posting <https://www.excelguru.ca/content.php?184>

 

 

--

 

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

 

*/It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between

thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly

different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power

to connect the seemingly unconnected./*

 

      ~ William Plomer

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

And let's all keep in mind that not everybody is an old hand at using mailing lists. I happen to know that Madison is quite young so instead of criticizing let's tell her that cross-posting or posting the same question on multiple lists at the same time without giving one list a chance to provide answers is considered bad etiquette because many of use are on the Jaws and WinAccess lists she is in any case asking the same people and she may not realize this. We are all here to either educate or be educated and it's always a good idea to give somebody the benefit of the doubt at least until they have really proven they are not able or willing to get it. I think, for example, if somebody had replied explaining how this is considered to be bad list etiquette sending it privately is even a better approach.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: November 5, 2021 9:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: downgrading to Windows 10

 

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 12:41 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:

But although annoying, I don't consider it cross-posting if the messages were sent separately.

-
Whether cross-posting, or multi-posting, the end result is the same.  And the article I referenced gives a better explanation of why this has been considered "poor form" for as long as I've been participating on technical support forums or emailing lists.

And the warning the gentleman who wrote that article gives is, I can assure you, quite true.  You can and will eventually be ignored once you have a reputation for multi-posting/cross-posting.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


Rick Mladek
 

If it is on different lists, she has done not one thing wrong and I support her asking as many as needed to get the answers sought. Remember, your delete key is, as you all often state, your option. Is a cross is done and yuou seem to be on more than one list, again, hit your delete key. She has done nothing wrong and just because you get a second or a third identical message from all you hold membership within, you are the individual with many memberships, she has not done one thing in error within any one individual group list. Get over it and move on...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 2:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: downgrading to Windows 10

 

And let's all keep in mind that not everybody is an old hand at using mailing lists. I happen to know that Madison is quite young so instead of criticizing let's tell her that cross-posting or posting the same question on multiple lists at the same time without giving one list a chance to provide answers is considered bad etiquette because many of use are on the Jaws and WinAccess lists she is in any case asking the same people and she may not realize this. We are all here to either educate or be educated and it's always a good idea to give somebody the benefit of the doubt at least until they have really proven they are not able or willing to get it. I think, for example, if somebody had replied explaining how this is considered to be bad list etiquette sending it privately is even a better approach.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: November 5, 2021 9:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: downgrading to Windows 10

 

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 12:41 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:

But although annoying, I don't consider it cross-posting if the messages were sent separately.

-
Whether cross-posting, or multi-posting, the end result is the same.  And the article I referenced gives a better explanation of why this has been considered "poor form" for as long as I've been participating on technical support forums or emailing lists.

And the warning the gentleman who wrote that article gives is, I can assure you, quite true.  You can and will eventually be ignored once you have a reputation for multi-posting/cross-posting.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


 

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 02:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
I think, for example, if somebody had replied explaining how this is considered to be bad list etiquette sending it privately is even a better approach.
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Well, I disagree.  This is something that needs to be a part of the public record.  At one time it needed to be said less than it seems to need to be said lately.

And telling someone that something is bad netiquette, when it is indeed bad netiquette, is educating them.  It's not an attack.  It's not telling them they're stupid.  It's informing them of something they did not know.

We are not children here, and not everything needs to be couched in the softest possible terms.  I've really grown tired of the attitude that when someone says something in a direct and businesslike manner that it's offensive.

Anyone thinking that multi-posting or cross-posting is a good idea needs to be disabused of that notion.
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It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer