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crayton Benner <craybay3198@...>
He. That’s one way to check your battery.
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On Jun 17, 2022, at 07:40, molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@...> wrote:
I just use the Jaws voice assistant to ask for the battery level/time
and date. Guess I'm lazy lol.
On 6/16/22, Madison Martin <Madison.Martin2000@...> wrote:
Hi Glenn,
I'm using the latest version of Windows 11 and I just tried that keystroke;
you can't arrow down to get to the battery info but if you right arrow
right 5 times you'll hear "system power state button," followed by the
battery status (don't activate the button).
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: June 16, 2022 6:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Curiosity: What makes people choose Jaws over NVDA?
I don't know about 11, but in windows 10, and earlier windows, I press
windows B and arrow to battery in the system tray.
Glenn
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From: "meow meow" <soberwater26q@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: Curiosity: What makes people choose Jaws over NVDA?
sometime I have hard time with window 11 that when I want to check on
battery by instert plus window key plus f10 sometime it will bring up and
sometime it won't that I have to keep trying few time
and someone told me to use control m to bring up decktop but mine would not
work my laptop have hard time getting decktop that only I press humm not
sure what key was it below power buttone I think it is { button
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From: "Chris Hill" <hillco@...>
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2022 8:40 PM
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Curiosity: What makes people choose Jaws over NVDA?
Hello.
Have not had any trouble with either one of those. Sounds like a
machine-specific problem that might be solvable with a reinstall of
jaws or something.
CH
On 6/
1/2022 20:40, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
One thing I've noticed with Jaws 2022 lately is that at least on my
machine, it seems to become completely unresponsive while using the
task manager and device manager, whereas NVDA works perfectly fine. I
don't know if this is just a Windows 11 issue or if it's something
unique to my machine or if it's an issue with Jaws. Either way I
prefer to use NVDA while using both the task manager and device
manager.
On 6/11/22, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:
I've always thought NVDA was more like Window Eyes.
Now, if there was a Jaws add-on for NVDA, that set the keyboard
functions to
be like Jaws, I think a lot more people would use it.
I remember when Microsoft Word had a WordPerfect keyboard layout,
that made
it a lot easier for WP users.
Glenn
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From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2022 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: Curiosity: What makes people choose Jaws over NVDA?
Having been a long time Window Eyes user I found the move to NVDA
much easier than a move to Jaws. I have NVDA and the latest version
of Jaws on my computer and use NVDA 90 percent of the time.
On 6/11/2022 5:04 PM, Mich Verrier wrote:
Hi I have triedNVDA but I never got verry far with it. I used Jaws
and that is what I have used all the way back to Jaws 3.7 I am now
using Jaws
2022 and am having a lot of fun with it. From Mich.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly
the blind
tech lover
Sent: June 11, 2022 3:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Curiosity: What makes people choose Jaws over NVDA?
Hi. This is such an interesting topic. I rather enjoy discussions
like this. I prefer Jaws over NVDA because Jaws has the Braille
math editor, which I need to use for math class. NVDA is a great
screen reader if you don't need to do math. Also, I love Jaws
picture smart, voice assistant feature, and the convenient OCR. I
do use NVDA occasionally, and I like how there are so many unique NVDA
add-ons.
However, my overall preference is Jaws.
On 6/11/22, James Malone <james.malone93502@...> wrote:
Hi all,
inspired from an earlier topic, I got to wondering:
What makes people keep coming back to Jaws over NVDA? I also want
to emphasise that this is not a topic trying to bash one or the
other, I'd really like to hear some opinions from the Jaws side.
What do you think it does better? Where do you think it's
weakness's are? I've been a long time NVDA user and occasionally
dabbled in Jaws here and there over the past year or so. Something
I commonly see is that Jaws still seems to have better braille
support. I also don't know how many organisations would be super
happy with the idea of putting NVDA on a work computer, so there's
that. I used Jaws growing up, so I have a fair amount of
experience in both readers. Using Jaws recently also told me that
the overall look and feel hasn't really changed either, so there
was next to no learning curve when it came to reacquainting
myself. I know NV access have been working on this, but to my
understanding Jaws also seems to have better UIA support, something
that can only be a positive!
Looking forward to hearing from you, James
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Hi,
Just efficiency really.
A simple example is reading Email in Outlook 365. JAWS will continue to read the whole Email as soon as you open it, but NVDA will only read the first line and give all that garbage about HTML document and stuff. NVDA is simply not as polished as JAWS. In fact, Narrator does a better job with outlook than NVDA.
Just my personal opinion, but I'd say if you're a home user, NVDA is fine, but when the rubber hits the road, JAWS has more chops.
All the best
Steve
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Malone
Sent: 11 June 2022 09:04
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Curiosity: What makes people choose Jaws over NVDA?
Hi all,
inspired from an earlier topic, I got to wondering:
What makes people keep coming back to Jaws over NVDA? I also want to emphasise that this is not a topic trying to bash one or the other, I'd really like to hear some opinions from the Jaws side. What do you think it does better? Where do you think it's weakness's are? I've been a long time NVDA user and occasionally dabbled in Jaws here and there over the past year or so. Something I commonly see is that Jaws still seems to have better braille support. I also don't know how many organisations would be super happy with the idea of putting NVDA on a work computer, so there's that. I used Jaws growing up, so I have a fair amount of experience in both readers. Using Jaws recently also told me that the overall look and feel hasn't really changed either, so there was next to no learning curve when it came to reacquainting myself. I know NV access have been working on this, but to my understanding Jaws also seems to have better UIA support, something that can only be a positive!
Looking forward to hearing from you,
James
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Then there’s support. If you want to get NVDA support, you really have to rely on the community, but you can hit FS directly. Updates are also more frequent with JAWS, at least one a month now. All the best
Steve
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: 11 June 2022 09:33
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Curiosity: What makes people choose Jaws over NVDA? Hi James, I find JAWS’s Office support better than NVDA’s, and also find it more responsive in Office applications. Some of its productivity features are also really good like text analyzer. This could be just my impression, but I also find the NVDA add-on process a bit messy, EG. a lot of add-ons always seem to break when NVDA is updated and it takes a while for them to get fixed. While I’m sure that does happen to external scripts and JAWS, it doesn’t feel as though it happens nearly as often. Cheers, Ed On 11 June 2022 09:03:58 "James Malone" <james.malone93502@...> wrote: Hi all,
inspired from an earlier topic, I got to wondering:
What makes people keep coming back to Jaws over NVDA? I also want to
emphasise that this is not a topic trying to bash one or the other,
I'd really like to hear some opinions from the Jaws side. What do you
think it does better? Where do you think it's weakness's are? I've
been a long time NVDA user and occasionally dabbled in Jaws here and
there over the past year or so. Something I commonly see is that Jaws
still seems to have better braille support. I also don't know how many
organisations would be super happy with the idea of putting NVDA on a
work computer, so there's that. I used Jaws growing up, so I have a
fair amount of experience in both readers. Using Jaws recently also
told me that the overall look and feel hasn't really changed either,
so there was next to no learning curve when it came to reacquainting
myself. I know NV access have been working on this, but to my
understanding Jaws also seems to have better UIA support, something
that can only be a positive!
Looking forward to hearing from you,
James
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-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: 11 June 2022 23:32 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Curiosity: What makes people choose Jaws over NVDA? I've always thought NVDA was more like Window Eyes. Now, if there was a Jaws add-on for NVDA, that set the keyboard functions to be like Jaws, I think a lot more people would use it. I remember when Microsoft Word had a WordPerfect keyboard layout, that made it a lot easier for WP users. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2022 5:25 PM Subject: Re: Curiosity: What makes people choose Jaws over NVDA? Having been a long time Window Eyes user I found the move to NVDA much easier than a move to Jaws. I have NVDA and the latest version of Jaws on my computer and use NVDA 90 percent of the time. On 6/11/2022 5:04 PM, Mich Verrier wrote: Hi I have triedNVDA but I never got verry far with it. I used Jaws and
that is what I have used all the way back to Jaws 3.7 I am now using
Jaws
2022 and am having a lot of fun with it. From Mich.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the
blind tech lover
Sent: June 11, 2022 3:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Curiosity: What makes people choose Jaws over NVDA?
Hi. This is such an interesting topic. I rather enjoy discussions like
this. I prefer Jaws over NVDA because Jaws has the Braille math
editor, which I need to use for math class. NVDA is a great screen
reader if you don't need to do math. Also, I love Jaws picture smart,
voice assistant feature, and the convenient OCR. I do use NVDA
occasionally, and I like how there are so many unique NVDA add-ons.
However, my overall preference is Jaws.
On 6/11/22, James Malone <james.malone93502@...> wrote:
Hi all,
inspired from an earlier topic, I got to wondering:
What makes people keep coming back to Jaws over NVDA? I also want to
emphasise that this is not a topic trying to bash one or the other,
I'd really like to hear some opinions from the Jaws side. What do you
think it does better? Where do you think it's weakness's are? I've
been a long time NVDA user and occasionally dabbled in Jaws here and
there over the past year or so. Something I commonly see is that Jaws
still seems to have better braille support. I also don't know how
many organisations would be super happy with the idea of putting NVDA
on a work computer, so there's that. I used Jaws growing up, so I
have a fair amount of experience in both readers. Using Jaws recently
also told me that the overall look and feel hasn't really changed
either, so there was next to no learning curve when it came to
reacquainting myself. I know NV access have been working on this, but
to my understanding Jaws also seems to have better UIA support,
something that can only be a positive!
Looking forward to hearing from you,
James
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Also worth updating to JAWS 2022, rather than reporting bugs in old versions.
All the best
Steve
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-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill Sent: 12 June 2022 03:40 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Curiosity: What makes people choose Jaws over NVDA? Hello. Have not had any trouble with either one of those. Sounds like a machine-specific problem that might be solvable with a reinstall of jaws or something. CH On 6/ 1/2022 20:40, molly the blind tech lover wrote: One thing I've noticed with Jaws 2022 lately is that at least on my
machine, it seems to become completely unresponsive while using the
task manager and device manager, whereas NVDA works perfectly fine. I
don't know if this is just a Windows 11 issue or if it's something
unique to my machine or if it's an issue with Jaws. Either way I
prefer to use NVDA while using both the task manager and device
manager.
On 6/11/22, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:
I've always thought NVDA was more like Window Eyes.
Now, if there was a Jaws add-on for NVDA, that set the keyboard
functions to
be like Jaws, I think a lot more people would use it.
I remember when Microsoft Word had a WordPerfect keyboard layout,
that made
it a lot easier for WP users.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2022 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: Curiosity: What makes people choose Jaws over NVDA?
Having been a long time Window Eyes user I found the move to NVDA
much easier than a move to Jaws. I have NVDA and the latest version
of Jaws on my computer and use NVDA 90 percent of the time.
On 6/11/2022 5:04 PM, Mich Verrier wrote:
Hi I have triedNVDA but I never got verry far with it. I used Jaws
and that is what I have used all the way back to Jaws 3.7 I am now
using Jaws
2022 and am having a lot of fun with it. From Mich.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the
blind
tech lover
Sent: June 11, 2022 3:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Curiosity: What makes people choose Jaws over NVDA?
Hi. This is such an interesting topic. I rather enjoy discussions
like this. I prefer Jaws over NVDA because Jaws has the Braille math
editor, which I need to use for math class. NVDA is a great screen
reader if you don't need to do math. Also, I love Jaws picture
smart, voice assistant feature, and the convenient OCR. I do use
NVDA occasionally, and I like how there are so many unique NVDA add-ons.
However, my overall preference is Jaws.
On 6/11/22, James Malone <james.malone93502@...> wrote:
Hi all,
inspired from an earlier topic, I got to wondering:
What makes people keep coming back to Jaws over NVDA? I also want
to emphasise that this is not a topic trying to bash one or the
other, I'd really like to hear some opinions from the Jaws side.
What do you think it does better? Where do you think it's
weakness's are? I've been a long time NVDA user and occasionally
dabbled in Jaws here and there over the past year or so. Something
I commonly see is that Jaws still seems to have better braille
support. I also don't know how many organisations would be super
happy with the idea of putting NVDA on a work computer, so there's
that. I used Jaws growing up, so I have a fair amount of experience
in both readers. Using Jaws recently also told me that the overall
look and feel hasn't really changed either, so there was next to no
learning curve when it came to reacquainting myself. I know NV
access have been working on this, but to my understanding Jaws also
seems to have better UIA support, something that can only be a positive!
Looking forward to hearing from you, James
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