Moderated Changing versions of JAWS without sighted assistance
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John Doering
Hello: I am having problems with my Netflix DVD list on www.dvd.com. I am using the latest versions of Windows 10 with Chrome and the latest version of JAWS 2023. Under each title you have in your list there should be 3 links to either move that title to the top of your list, move it to another position in the list, or delete the title from your list. For me, all I get under each title in that area is JAWS saying “link bullet, bullet, bullet”. I have called Netflix tech support and reported the problem but did not get any help. I thought of trying to see if an older version of JAWS still works. I have several older versions still installed in my computer. Is there a way of switching versions without sighted help? To change versions, I believe I would need to close 2023 then start the older version, but once 2023 is closed I will not have speech to find the other version I wish to start. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
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Milton Ota
Use Ctrl + Escape and you should be placed in the search field. Just type JAWS2022 JAWS 2022 should start in a few seconds.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2022 7:58 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Cc: John Doering <John.Doering@...>; John Doering <doering@...> Subject: Changing versions of JAWS without sighted assistance
Hello: I am having problems with my Netflix DVD list on www.dvd.com. I am using the latest versions of Windows 10 with Chrome and the latest version of JAWS 2023. Under each title you have in your list there should be 3 links to either move that title to the top of your list, move it to another position in the list, or delete the title from your list. For me, all I get under each title in that area is JAWS saying “link bullet, bullet, bullet”. I have called Netflix tech support and reported the problem but did not get any help. I thought of trying to see if an older version of JAWS still works. I have several older versions still installed in my computer. Is there a way of switching versions without sighted help? To change versions, I believe I would need to close 2023 then start the older version, but once 2023 is closed I will not have speech to find the other version I wish to start. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
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Gene Warner
I assign each version with it's own hot key for launching, for example I have both then 2022 and 2023 versions installed, for the 2022 version I have alt+control+shift+J and its hot key to start it, for the 2023 version the hot key is alt+control+shift+K.
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Another way is after exiting one version of JAWS, press the Windows key, then type JAWS with the version then press enter, so to launch the 2022 version, you'd type "JAWS2022" then press enter. Finally, before exiting one version of JAWS, put the focus on the icon for the version you want to run, now exit JAWS, the cursor will still be on the version you want to run, so just press enter to launch it. Hope that helps. For what it's worth, I have always found it useful to keep the current version of JAWS installed along with the new version until I feel confident that the new version is ready for daily use. Right now there are some issues with the 2023 version so I am still using the 2022 version for daily use. Gene... On 12/6/2022 8:58 AM, John Doering wrote:
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Adrian Spratt
Really? I just tried it, and predictably, JAWS 2023 still ran.
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Milton Ota
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2022 9:05 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Changing versions of JAWS without sighted assistance
Use Ctrl + Escape and you should be placed in the search field. Just type JAWS2022 JAWS 2022 should start in a few seconds.
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On Behalf Of John Doering
Hello: I am having problems with my Netflix DVD list on www.dvd.com. I am using the latest versions of Windows 10 with Chrome and the latest version of JAWS 2023. Under each title you have in your list there should be 3 links to either move that title to the top of your list, move it to another position in the list, or delete the title from your list. For me, all I get under each title in that area is JAWS saying “link bullet, bullet, bullet”. I have called Netflix tech support and reported the problem but did not get any help. I thought of trying to see if an older version of JAWS still works. I have several older versions still installed in my computer. Is there a way of switching versions without sighted help? To change versions, I believe I would need to close 2023 then start the older version, but once 2023 is closed I will not have speech to find the other version I wish to start. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
John Doering
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
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NFB Lab 4
If you do, the keystroke windows are, for the run dialog box, then type in JAWS2022, it will bring up Chaz 2022, if you type in JAWS2021, it will bring up the 2021 version. If you need some speech, when you do not have jaws, the keystroke control windows enter will turn on narrator, it’s the same key stroke to turn it off again
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Adrian Spratt
John,
There are at least two fairly simple ways to open any version of JAWS after you close the currently running JAWS.
I believe there’s a third method, but I haven’t got into the habit of using it. As I recall, type Windows key-r to open the Windows run dialog, then type JAWS and the version number you want. Press enter, and JAWS should start speaking. But I may have a detail wrong here, so wait for someone to post who uses this method.
-- My novel Caroline is now available in paperback, Kindle and audiobook versions and, for qualified readers in the US, at the National Library Service/BARD. Go to: https://adrianspratt.com/book/
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
John Doering
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2022 8:58 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Cc: John Doering <John.Doering@...>; John Doering <doering@...> Subject: Changing versions of JAWS without sighted assistance
Hello: I am having problems with my Netflix DVD list on www.dvd.com. I am using the latest versions of Windows 10 with Chrome and the latest version of JAWS 2023. Under each title you have in your list there should be 3 links to either move that title to the top of your list, move it to another position in the list, or delete the title from your list. For me, all I get under each title in that area is JAWS saying “link bullet, bullet, bullet”. I have called Netflix tech support and reported the problem but did not get any help. I thought of trying to see if an older version of JAWS still works. I have several older versions still installed in my computer. Is there a way of switching versions without sighted help? To change versions, I believe I would need to close 2023 then start the older version, but once 2023 is closed I will not have speech to find the other version I wish to start. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
John Doering
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
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Justin Williams
That method with the run command is right. Go to your desktop, Type windows r, Then Jaws followed by the version you'd like to use.
Also, about creating a shortcut. If you go to your jaws and version and hit alt enter as previous suggested by Adrien, you can then hig alt k to get ot the shortcut key.
After arriving at the shortcut key, you should hear shortcurt none.
Then, press whatever letter or number you'd like to use.
I normally use the run command to open the version I have decided to use.
So, Windows key with the letter r, Then jaws2022.
Thanks,
Justin
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2022 9:24 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Changing versions of JAWS without sighted assistance
John,
There are at least two fairly simple ways to open any version of JAWS after you close the currently running JAWS.
I believe there’s a third method, but I haven’t got into the habit of using it. As I recall, type Windows key-r to open the Windows run dialog, then type JAWS and the version number you want. Press enter, and JAWS should start speaking. But I may have a detail wrong here, so wait for someone to post who uses this method.
-- My novel Caroline is now available in paperback, Kindle and audiobook versions and, for qualified readers in the US, at the National Library Service/BARD. Go to: https://adrianspratt.com/book/
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Hello: I am having problems with my Netflix DVD list on www.dvd.com. I am using the latest versions of Windows 10 with Chrome and the latest version of JAWS 2023. Under each title you have in your list there should be 3 links to either move that title to the top of your list, move it to another position in the list, or delete the title from your list. For me, all I get under each title in that area is JAWS saying “link bullet, bullet, bullet”. I have called Netflix tech support and reported the problem but did not get any help. I thought of trying to see if an older version of JAWS still works. I have several older versions still installed in my computer. Is there a way of switching versions without sighted help? To change versions, I believe I would need to close 2023 then start the older version, but once 2023 is closed I will not have speech to find the other version I wish to start. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
John Doering Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063 Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. |
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JM Casey
Hello.
I would use the run (windows + r) command followed by jaws+ version number as suggested by a couple of others. It’s almost foolproof, unless you make a typo of course. But nobody has pointed out yet, that you have a perfectly usable screen-reader built into windows that you can activate if you find yourself in a position of needing to do something without JAWS, and still want speech. Use ctrl-windows-enter to activate narrator, and then you can mess around on the desktop, run task manager, or do whatever you like. Sure, it’s not a replacement for JAWS and won’t function as well in most areas, but definitely more than sufficient for running programmes, stopping a programme that’s not working, and so on.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: December 6, 2022 08:58 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Cc: John Doering <John.Doering@...>; John Doering <doering@...> Subject: Changing versions of JAWS without sighted assistance
Hello: I am having problems with my Netflix DVD list on www.dvd.com. I am using the latest versions of Windows 10 with Chrome and the latest version of JAWS 2023. Under each title you have in your list there should be 3 links to either move that title to the top of your list, move it to another position in the list, or delete the title from your list. For me, all I get under each title in that area is JAWS saying “link bullet, bullet, bullet”. I have called Netflix tech support and reported the problem but did not get any help. I thought of trying to see if an older version of JAWS still works. I have several older versions still installed in my computer. Is there a way of switching versions without sighted help? To change versions, I believe I would need to close 2023 then start the older version, but once 2023 is closed I will not have speech to find the other version I wish to start. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
John Doering Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063 Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. |
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TJ McElroy gMail
Hi John,
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jaws create shortcut example - Google Search How do I create a shortcut with JAWS? 1. Press Windows+D to go to the Desktop and then press letter J until you get to the JAWS program icon. 2. Press ALT+ENTER on it to open properties. 3. Then press TAB to reach the “shortcut key” edit box, 4. then just type a letter J here. 5. Press TAB to move to the “OK” button and press SPACEBAR on it. Apr 20, 2022 #notes: [4 - the normal shortcut key for Jaws is ( control alt j ) when you are in the shortcut key” edit box: a. if you only press one key like ( j ) windows will pre-pend the ( control alt ) ( this will create the ( control alt j ) shortcut key combination to start Jaws b. you can use almost any key combination c. for your case ( setting up an older version of Jaws to run ) follow the steps above, however when you get to the Jaws icon, insure you are selecting Jaws 2022 when you are in the shortcut key” edit box: press ( shift control j ) this will assign the ( shift control j ) shortcut key combination to start Jaws 2022 to test your work: insure you have created a shortcut key to start Jaws unload the currently running version of Jaws ( insert f4 ) press your newly created shortcut key (control alt j) for Jaws 2023, (shift control j) for Jaws 2022 Jaws should start in a few seconds hth TJ McElroy USMC Ret. Certified Salesforce Professional BosmaForce Salesforce Training Phone: 317 867 0277 Email: tjmcelroy@... On 12/6/2022 1:10 PM, JM Casey wrote:
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David Ingram
Hi, how are you? if you want to change versions of jaws without sighted assistance, here is what you can do. Lets say that you have jaws 2022 loaded and you want to load jaws2023, you can first quit jaws 2022 then use control+windows+enter to bring up narrator, then tab until you here type text then type the version of jaws 2023 press enter then the other version of jaws starts. -----Original Message-----
From: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Dec 6, 2022 12:11 PM To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: Changing versions of JAWS without sighted assistance
Hello.
I would use the run (windows + r) command followed by jaws+ version number as suggested by a couple of others. It’s almost foolproof, unless you make a typo of course. But nobody has pointed out yet, that you have a perfectly usable screen-reader built into windows that you can activate if you find yourself in a position of needing to do something without JAWS, and still want speech. Use ctrl-windows-enter to activate narrator, and then you can mess around on the desktop, run task manager, or do whatever you like. Sure, it’s not a replacement for JAWS and won’t function as well in most areas, but definitely more than sufficient for running programmes, stopping a programme that’s not working, and so on.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Hello: I am having problems with my Netflix DVD list on www.dvd.com. I am using the latest versions of Windows 10 with Chrome and the latest version of JAWS 2023. Under each title you have in your list there should be 3 links to either move that title to the top of your list, move it to another position in the list, or delete the title from your list. For me, all I get under each title in that area is JAWS saying “link bullet, bullet, bullet”. I have called Netflix tech support and reported the problem but did not get any help. I thought of trying to see if an older version of JAWS still works. I have several older versions still installed in my computer. Is there a way of switching versions without sighted help? To change versions, I believe I would need to close 2023 then start the older version, but once 2023 is closed I will not have speech to find the other version I wish to start. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
John Doering Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.
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Rod & Ele Macdonald
I use the following:
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`. Insert+F4 to shut down the current version of Jaws. 2. Press Windows Key+R to open the Run dialog. 3. Type jaws2023 (or whatever version) and press enter. The new version of Jaws will open after a few seconds. I also do this if, for some reason, the current version is not working properly. Rod ----- Original Message -----
From: David Ingram <dingram269@...> To: main@jfw.groups.io CC: Date: Tuesday, December 6, 2022 1:58 pm Subject: Re: Changing versions of JAWS without sighted assistance
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Mike Pietruk
I'm late to this discussion so this may already have been mentioned.
I have 2021, 2022 and 2023 on my system. Each has a desktop shortcut with a beginning character not used by anything else in the shortcuts group. So, I shut down the running version of Jaws; hit window+m, hit the first character of the appropriate shortcut and hit return. Launches without a hitch. So, no assistance is needed so long as you remember how you named the shortcut. And, if you prefer something simpler: creat a hotkey for each. Either way: shutdown the running version of Jaws and start whatever version you want at that point. Straightforward as could be. |
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Adrian Spratt
Mike,
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I never thought to do that, and now I just did. It accomplishes another objective as well. As a Vispero tech support guy told me a long time ago, the shortcut generated on installing a new version of JAWS is unstable and often lost. I can confirm it. However, changing the name, however slightly, seems to stabilize it, which I can also confirm. So now, following your suggestion, I'll kill two birds with one stone the next time I install a new JAWS version. If anyone is interested, I've assigned numbers to my three desktop JAWS icons. 2018 begins with 8, 2023 with 3, etc. For me, they're memorable. -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2022 9:07 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Changing versions of JAWS without sighted assistance I'm late to this discussion so this may already have been mentioned. I have 2021, 2022 and 2023 on my system. Each has a desktop shortcut with a beginning character not used by anything else in the shortcuts group. So, I shut down the running version of Jaws; hit window+m, hit the first character of the appropriate shortcut and hit return. Launches without a hitch. So, no assistance is needed so long as you remember how you named the shortcut. And, if you prefer something simpler: creat a hotkey for each. Either way: shutdown the running version of Jaws and start whatever version you want at that point. Straightforward as could be. |
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David Diamond
I guess I’m having a dumb moment, why would one want to switch back and forth from JAWS versions? With an update, after everything is working fine, I delete the prior version of JAWS, such as when getting 023, I deleted 022. |
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David Ingram
Hi, if you want to load a prior version of jaws without sighted assistance, here is what you do. First unload the current version of jaws that you are using, then turn on narrator, then use the tab key until you hear type hear to search, press enter then type in the older version of jaws. press enter then you should hear the older version of jaws speaking. i hope that this helps. -----Original Message-----
From: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Dec 6, 2022 11:52 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: Changing versions of JAWS without sighted assistance
I guess I’m having a dumb moment, why would one want to switch back and forth from JAWS versions? With an update, after everything is working fine, I delete the prior version of JAWS, such as when getting 023, I deleted 022.
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JM Casey
Updates break things sometimes, as we all know. JAWS doesn’t overwrite old copies of itself. One thing I guess they were good enough to realise is that someone might still need their old jaws versions for something.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: December 7, 2022 12:52 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Changing versions of JAWS without sighted assistance
I guess I’m having a dumb moment, why would one want to switch back and forth from JAWS versions? With an update, after everything is working fine, I delete the prior version of JAWS, such as when getting 023, I deleted 022. |
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Mike Pietruk
David
An older version can be a security blanket if something should fail on the newest. Now, I don't recall which script Brian Hartgen was referring to, but when I purchased Leasey, I recall reading something to the effect that some other script package could not be run on the same version as Leasey. And, when I purchased Leasey at the beginning of this year, I placed it initially on Jaws 2021 so I could become comfortable with it. Since JAWS allows the use of multiple versions, what harm is there in having multiple versions on a pc? |
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Ashleigh Piccinino
I think this thread has gone on long enough, so please contact the mods to end it. Thank you.
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Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2022 9:15:46 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: Changing versions of JAWS without sighted assistance David
An older version can be a security blanket if something should fail on the newest. Now, I don't recall which script Brian Hartgen was referring to, but when I purchased Leasey, I recall reading something to the effect that some other script package could not be run on the same version as Leasey. And, when I purchased Leasey at the beginning of this year, I placed it initially on Jaws 2021 so I could become comfortable with it. Since JAWS allows the use of multiple versions, what harm is there in having multiple versions on a pc? |
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Ashleigh Piccinino
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of David Diamond <Daviddiamond2019@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2022 11:51:54 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: Changing versions of JAWS without sighted assistance I guess I’m having a dumb moment, why would one want to switch back and forth from JAWS versions? With an update, after everything is working fine, I delete the prior version of JAWS, such as when getting 023, I deleted 022. |
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