Moderated Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?


Gene Warner
 

They do, I have a home license that I keep up to date with SMAs.

Gene...

On 7/6/2022 8:57 AM, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io wrote:
I have a SMA for a professional license, since I use it for work and home. I'm not sure FS even offers a SMA for home licenses anymore, but don't hold me to that.
As I understand it, JAWS is mine to keep, even if I don't renew the SMA, but eventually the software won't work as Windows and applications keep progressing. Like you, I like the idea of owning my copy, even if it becomes outdated if I don't renew the SMA. The annual license is great for removing the barrier of entry for new JAWS users, but feels like a fleeting thing that you lose if you cannot afford the annual license one year.
If your last SMA was 2002, you may not be able to switch base to even a professional SMA at this point. You are probably best to call FS Sales and ask about your situation.
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2022 4:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?
WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before clicking links or opening attachments.
I purchased my SMA with a college trust fund back in 2002, as I was going to school back then. The SMA was a "Professional" license. I want to try to change my recent home annual license to a perpetual license, but I'm not sure how much it would cost to upgrade from one license to another. Am I right when I hear that a perpetual license never expires?
On 07/06/2022 2:58 AM molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@...> wrote:


I used to have an SMA for Jaws, not sure which version of Jaws it was.
My SMA had expired, and rather than renewing the SMA I purchased the
home annual yearly subscription for around $95. In my opinion it's
easier than trying to renew an expired SMA.

On 7/3/22, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:
I originally purchased an SMA when I originally purchased JAWS,
starting with version 3.7.

On 07/03/2022 3:27 AM Gerald Levy via groups.io
<bwaylimited@...> wrote:




Sorry, no can do. Once you have selected the annual license
option, you cannot switch to the SMA option without purchasing JAWS
outright for $950, if you have not previously done so.


Gerald



On 7/2/2022 9:59 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

> > Hi, it's Annabelle.
I have an Annual license for JAWS 2021, and I'd like to
change it to a perpetual license. Those are the ones that don't expire, right?
Will it cost me anything? If so, how much. Specifically, I have a
home license for JAWS 2021.

>





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Annabelle Susan Morison
 

What's even more interesting, I run Windows with Automatic Updates turned off. I know most folks will say that's a security risk, but unfortunately I learned the hard way when I updated Windows 7 and it did something funky that led to mismatched drivers, program incompatibility, and broken accessibility.

On 07/06/2022 5:57 AM Van Lant, Robin via groups.io <robin_van_lant@...> wrote:


I have a SMA for a professional license, since I use it for work and home. I'm not sure FS even offers a SMA for home licenses anymore, but don't hold me to that.

As I understand it, JAWS is mine to keep, even if I don't renew the SMA, but eventually the software won't work as Windows and applications keep progressing. Like you, I like the idea of owning my copy, even if it becomes outdated if I don't renew the SMA. The annual license is great for removing the barrier of entry for new JAWS users, but feels like a fleeting thing that you lose if you cannot afford the annual license one year.

If your last SMA was 2002, you may not be able to switch base to even a professional SMA at this point. You are probably best to call FS Sales and ask about your situation.

Robin


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2022 4:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before clicking links or opening attachments.


I purchased my SMA with a college trust fund back in 2002, as I was going to school back then. The SMA was a "Professional" license. I want to try to change my recent home annual license to a perpetual license, but I'm not sure how much it would cost to upgrade from one license to another. Am I right when I hear that a perpetual license never expires?
On 07/06/2022 2:58 AM molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@...> wrote:


I used to have an SMA for Jaws, not sure which version of Jaws it was.
My SMA had expired, and rather than renewing the SMA I purchased the
home annual yearly subscription for around $95. In my opinion it's
easier than trying to renew an expired SMA.

On 7/3/22, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:
I originally purchased an SMA when I originally purchased JAWS,
starting with version 3.7.

On 07/03/2022 3:27 AM Gerald Levy via groups.io
<bwaylimited@...> wrote:




Sorry, no can do. Once you have selected the annual license
option, you cannot switch to the SMA option without purchasing JAWS
outright for $950, if you have not previously done so.


Gerald



On 7/2/2022 9:59 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

> > Hi, it's Annabelle.
I have an Annual license for JAWS 2021, and I'd like to
change it to a perpetual license. Those are the ones that don't expire, right?
Will it cost me anything? If so, how much. Specifically, I have a
home license for JAWS 2021.

>











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Gene Warner
 

Hi Annabelle!

You woun't hear that from me! I've been the computer industry since 1980 and I have always felt that automatic updates are a very bad idea. The problem with automatic updates is that you may get an update that does bad thing to your computer, and while you might be able remove the update, the automatic update feature will just put it back again. It is always better to wait a while to see what others are saying about an update and if the news isn't good, you just don't install it!

Gene...

On 7/6/2022 9:25 AM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
What's even more interesting, I run Windows with Automatic Updates turned off. I know most folks will say that's a security risk, but unfortunately I learned the hard way when I updated Windows 7 and it did something funky that led to mismatched drivers, program incompatibility, and broken accessibility.
On 07/06/2022 5:57 AM Van Lant, Robin via groups.io <robin_van_lant@...> wrote:

I have a SMA for a professional license, since I use it for work and home. I'm not sure FS even offers a SMA for home licenses anymore, but don't hold me to that.

As I understand it, JAWS is mine to keep, even if I don't renew the SMA, but eventually the software won't work as Windows and applications keep progressing. Like you, I like the idea of owning my copy, even if it becomes outdated if I don't renew the SMA. The annual license is great for removing the barrier of entry for new JAWS users, but feels like a fleeting thing that you lose if you cannot afford the annual license one year.

If your last SMA was 2002, you may not be able to switch base to even a professional SMA at this point. You are probably best to call FS Sales and ask about your situation.

Robin


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2022 4:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before clicking links or opening attachments.


I purchased my SMA with a college trust fund back in 2002, as I was going to school back then. The SMA was a "Professional" license. I want to try to change my recent home annual license to a perpetual license, but I'm not sure how much it would cost to upgrade from one license to another. Am I right when I hear that a perpetual license never expires?
On 07/06/2022 2:58 AM molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@...> wrote:


I used to have an SMA for Jaws, not sure which version of Jaws it was.
My SMA had expired, and rather than renewing the SMA I purchased the
home annual yearly subscription for around $95. In my opinion it's
easier than trying to renew an expired SMA.

On 7/3/22, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:
I originally purchased an SMA when I originally purchased JAWS,
starting with version 3.7.

On 07/03/2022 3:27 AM Gerald Levy via groups.io
<bwaylimited@...> wrote:




Sorry, no can do. Once you have selected the annual license
option, you cannot switch to the SMA option without purchasing JAWS
outright for $950, if you have not previously done so.


Gerald



On 7/2/2022 9:59 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

> > Hi, it's Annabelle.
I have an Annual license for JAWS 2021, and I'd like to
change it to a perpetual license. Those are the ones that don't expire, right?
Will it cost me anything? If so, how much. Specifically, I have a
home license for JAWS 2021.

>











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K0LNY
 

Yes, turning off automatic updates is a good thing.
I don't know if windows 10 or that newer one, LOL, allow one to select which
updates can be installed through windows update, like we can in earlier
windows.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?


Hi Annabelle!

You woun't hear that from me! I've been the computer industry since 1980
and I have always felt that automatic updates are a very bad idea. The
problem with automatic updates is that you may get an update that does
bad thing to your computer, and while you might be able remove the
update, the automatic update feature will just put it back again. It is
always better to wait a while to see what others are saying about an
update and if the news isn't good, you just don't install it!

Gene...


On 7/6/2022 9:25 AM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
What's even more interesting, I run Windows with Automatic Updates turned
off. I know most folks will say that's a security risk, but unfortunately
I learned the hard way when I updated Windows 7 and it did something funky
that led to mismatched drivers, program incompatibility, and broken
accessibility.
On 07/06/2022 5:57 AM Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
<robin_van_lant@...> wrote:


I have a SMA for a professional license, since I use it for work and
home. I'm not sure FS even offers a SMA for home licenses anymore, but
don't hold me to that.

As I understand it, JAWS is mine to keep, even if I don't renew the SMA,
but eventually the software won't work as Windows and applications keep
progressing. Like you, I like the idea of owning my copy, even if it
becomes outdated if I don't renew the SMA. The annual license is great
for removing the barrier of entry for new JAWS users, but feels like a
fleeting thing that you lose if you cannot afford the annual license one
year.

If your last SMA was 2002, you may not be able to switch base to even a
professional SMA at this point. You are probably best to call FS Sales
and ask about your situation.

Robin


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle
Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2022 4:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before
clicking links or opening attachments.


I purchased my SMA with a college trust fund back in 2002, as I was going
to school back then. The SMA was a "Professional" license. I want to try
to change my recent home annual license to a perpetual license, but I'm
not sure how much it would cost to upgrade from one license to another.
Am I right when I hear that a perpetual license never expires?
On 07/06/2022 2:58 AM molly the blind tech lover
<brainardmolly@...> wrote:


I used to have an SMA for Jaws, not sure which version of Jaws it was.
My SMA had expired, and rather than renewing the SMA I purchased the
home annual yearly subscription for around $95. In my opinion it's
easier than trying to renew an expired SMA.

On 7/3/22, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:
I originally purchased an SMA when I originally purchased JAWS,
starting with version 3.7.

On 07/03/2022 3:27 AM Gerald Levy via groups.io
<bwaylimited@...> wrote:




Sorry, no can do. Once you have selected the annual license
option, you cannot switch to the SMA option without purchasing JAWS
outright for $950, if you have not previously done so.


Gerald



On 7/2/2022 9:59 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

> > Hi, it's Annabelle.
I have an Annual license for JAWS 2021, and I'd like to
change it to a perpetual license. Those are the ones that don't
expire, right?
Will it cost me anything? If so, how much. Specifically, I have a
home license for JAWS 2021.

>











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Gene Warner
 

Hi Glenn!

No,, Microsoft took that away from us. You have to get a professional edition of Windows to have any control over which updates you get.

You would think that a software company like Microsoft would know how bad an idea automatic updates are.

Gene...

On 7/6/2022 10:16 AM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Yes, turning off automatic updates is a good thing.
I don't know if windows 10 or that newer one, LOL, allow one to select which
updates can be installed through windows update, like we can in earlier
windows.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?
Hi Annabelle!
You woun't hear that from me! I've been the computer industry since 1980
and I have always felt that automatic updates are a very bad idea. The
problem with automatic updates is that you may get an update that does
bad thing to your computer, and while you might be able remove the
update, the automatic update feature will just put it back again. It is
always better to wait a while to see what others are saying about an
update and if the news isn't good, you just don't install it!
Gene...
On 7/6/2022 9:25 AM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
What's even more interesting, I run Windows with Automatic Updates turned
off. I know most folks will say that's a security risk, but unfortunately
I learned the hard way when I updated Windows 7 and it did something funky
that led to mismatched drivers, program incompatibility, and broken
accessibility.
On 07/06/2022 5:57 AM Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
<robin_van_lant@...> wrote:


I have a SMA for a professional license, since I use it for work and
home. I'm not sure FS even offers a SMA for home licenses anymore, but
don't hold me to that.

As I understand it, JAWS is mine to keep, even if I don't renew the SMA,
but eventually the software won't work as Windows and applications keep
progressing. Like you, I like the idea of owning my copy, even if it
becomes outdated if I don't renew the SMA. The annual license is great
for removing the barrier of entry for new JAWS users, but feels like a
fleeting thing that you lose if you cannot afford the annual license one
year.

If your last SMA was 2002, you may not be able to switch base to even a
professional SMA at this point. You are probably best to call FS Sales
and ask about your situation.

Robin


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle
Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2022 4:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before
clicking links or opening attachments.


I purchased my SMA with a college trust fund back in 2002, as I was going
to school back then. The SMA was a "Professional" license. I want to try
to change my recent home annual license to a perpetual license, but I'm
not sure how much it would cost to upgrade from one license to another.
Am I right when I hear that a perpetual license never expires?
On 07/06/2022 2:58 AM molly the blind tech lover
<brainardmolly@...> wrote:


I used to have an SMA for Jaws, not sure which version of Jaws it was.
My SMA had expired, and rather than renewing the SMA I purchased the
home annual yearly subscription for around $95. In my opinion it's
easier than trying to renew an expired SMA.

On 7/3/22, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:
I originally purchased an SMA when I originally purchased JAWS,
starting with version 3.7.

On 07/03/2022 3:27 AM Gerald Levy via groups.io
<bwaylimited@...> wrote:




Sorry, no can do. Once you have selected the annual license
option, you cannot switch to the SMA option without purchasing JAWS
outright for $950, if you have not previously done so.


Gerald



On 7/2/2022 9:59 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

> > Hi, it's Annabelle.
I have an Annual license for JAWS 2021, and I'd like to
change it to a perpetual license. Those are the ones that don't
expire, right?
Will it cost me anything? If so, how much. Specifically, I have a
home license for JAWS 2021.

>











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information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. No
confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost as a result of any
transmission errors. If you are not the intended recipient, you are
strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any
of this information. If you have received this communication in error,
please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its
entirety, whether electronic or hard copy.

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or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as
investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market
price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other
information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is
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Bill White
 

Hi, Molly. You are right, that it is easier to buy the Annual Licence than to update an expired SMA. The difference is that, even if your SMA expires, your current version of JAWS will keep working indefinitely. The Annual Licence, on the other hand, will go into 40-minute mode, the month in which your Annual Licence expires.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2022 2:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?

I used to have an SMA for Jaws, not sure which version of Jaws it was.
My SMA had expired, and rather than renewing the SMA I purchased the
home annual yearly subscription for around $95. In my opinion it's
easier than trying to renew an expired SMA.

On 7/3/22, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:
I originally purchased an SMA when I originally purchased JAWS, starting
with version 3.7.

On 07/03/2022 3:27 AM Gerald Levy via groups.io
<bwaylimited@...> wrote:




Sorry, no can do. Once you have selected the annual license option,
you cannot switch to the SMA option without purchasing JAWS outright for
$950, if you have not previously done so.


Gerald



On 7/2/2022 9:59 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

> > Hi, it's Annabelle.
I have an Annual license for JAWS 2021, and I'd like to change
it to a perpetual license. Those are the ones that don't expire, right?
Will it cost me anything? If so, how much. Specifically, I have a home
license for JAWS 2021.

>





Maria Campbell
 

I have the SMA for home license and just updated.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

On 7/6/2022 8:57 AM, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io wrote:
I have a SMA for a professional license, since I use it for work and home. I'm not sure FS even offers a SMA for home licenses anymore, but don't hold me to that.

As I understand it, JAWS is mine to keep, even if I don't renew the SMA, but eventually the software won't work as Windows and applications keep progressing. Like you, I like the idea of owning my copy, even if it becomes outdated if I don't renew the SMA. The annual license is great for removing the barrier of entry for new JAWS users, but feels like a fleeting thing that you lose if you cannot afford the annual license one year.

If your last SMA was 2002, you may not be able to switch base to even a professional SMA at this point. You are probably best to call FS Sales and ask about your situation.

Robin


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2022 4:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before clicking links or opening attachments.


I purchased my SMA with a college trust fund back in 2002, as I was going to school back then. The SMA was a "Professional" license. I want to try to change my recent home annual license to a perpetual license, but I'm not sure how much it would cost to upgrade from one license to another. Am I right when I hear that a perpetual license never expires?
On 07/06/2022 2:58 AM molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@...> wrote:


I used to have an SMA for Jaws, not sure which version of Jaws it was.
My SMA had expired, and rather than renewing the SMA I purchased the
home annual yearly subscription for around $95. In my opinion it's
easier than trying to renew an expired SMA.

On 7/3/22, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:
I originally purchased an SMA when I originally purchased JAWS,
starting with version 3.7.

On 07/03/2022 3:27 AM Gerald Levy via groups.io
<bwaylimited@...> wrote:




Sorry, no can do. Once you have selected the annual license
option, you cannot switch to the SMA option without purchasing JAWS
outright for $950, if you have not previously done so.


Gerald



On 7/2/2022 9:59 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

> > Hi, it's Annabelle.
I have an Annual license for JAWS 2021, and I'd like to
change it to a perpetual license. Those are the ones that don't expire, right?
Will it cost me anything? If so, how much. Specifically, I have a
home license for JAWS 2021.

>








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meow meow
 

how can u turn it off on window 11



--------------------------------------------------
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 8:16 AM
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?

Yes, turning off automatic updates is a good thing.
I don't know if windows 10 or that newer one, LOL, allow one to select which
updates can be installed through windows update, like we can in earlier
windows.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?


Hi Annabelle!

You woun't hear that from me! I've been the computer industry since 1980
and I have always felt that automatic updates are a very bad idea. The
problem with automatic updates is that you may get an update that does
bad thing to your computer, and while you might be able remove the
update, the automatic update feature will just put it back again. It is
always better to wait a while to see what others are saying about an
update and if the news isn't good, you just don't install it!

Gene...


On 7/6/2022 9:25 AM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
What's even more interesting, I run Windows with Automatic Updates turned
off. I know most folks will say that's a security risk, but unfortunately
I learned the hard way when I updated Windows 7 and it did something funky
that led to mismatched drivers, program incompatibility, and broken
accessibility.
On 07/06/2022 5:57 AM Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
<robin_van_lant@...> wrote:


I have a SMA for a professional license, since I use it for work and
home. I'm not sure FS even offers a SMA for home licenses anymore, but
don't hold me to that.

As I understand it, JAWS is mine to keep, even if I don't renew the SMA,
but eventually the software won't work as Windows and applications keep
progressing. Like you, I like the idea of owning my copy, even if it
becomes outdated if I don't renew the SMA. The annual license is great
for removing the barrier of entry for new JAWS users, but feels like a
fleeting thing that you lose if you cannot afford the annual license one
year.

If your last SMA was 2002, you may not be able to switch base to even a
professional SMA at this point. You are probably best to call FS Sales
and ask about your situation.

Robin


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle
Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2022 4:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before
clicking links or opening attachments.


I purchased my SMA with a college trust fund back in 2002, as I was going
to school back then. The SMA was a "Professional" license. I want to try
to change my recent home annual license to a perpetual license, but I'm
not sure how much it would cost to upgrade from one license to another.
Am I right when I hear that a perpetual license never expires?
On 07/06/2022 2:58 AM molly the blind tech lover
<brainardmolly@...> wrote:


I used to have an SMA for Jaws, not sure which version of Jaws it was.
My SMA had expired, and rather than renewing the SMA I purchased the
home annual yearly subscription for around $95. In my opinion it's
easier than trying to renew an expired SMA.

On 7/3/22, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:
I originally purchased an SMA when I originally purchased JAWS,
starting with version 3.7.

On 07/03/2022 3:27 AM Gerald Levy via groups.io
<bwaylimited@...> wrote:




Sorry, no can do. Once you have selected the annual license
option, you cannot switch to the SMA option without purchasing JAWS
outright for $950, if you have not previously done so.


Gerald



On 7/2/2022 9:59 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

> > Hi, it's Annabelle.
I have an Annual license for JAWS 2021, and I'd like to
change it to a perpetual license. Those are the ones that don't
expire, right?
Will it cost me anything? If so, how much. Specifically, I have a
home license for JAWS 2021.

>











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Annabelle Susan Morison
 

Hey there Meow Meow!
Your name makes me smile! To turn off automatic updates in new versions of Windows like Windows 10, which doesn't seem to have that parameter in the Control Panel like other previous versions (That really makes me mad), you actually have to create a registry key. If it's not already there, go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion. create a new key called "WindowsUpdate". within that key, create another key called AU. Within that key, create a Dword value called NoAutoUpdate. Set that value to 1. If you have Winaero Tweaker, which also helps, set the parameter of Disable Windows Update to checked, and you should be good to go. It does sound complicated, but it's definitely worth it if you don't wanna be bothered with constant updates!

On 07/06/2022 3:01 PM meow meow <soberwater26q@...> wrote:


how can u turn it off on window 11



--------------------------------------------------
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 8:16 AM
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?

Yes, turning off automatic updates is a good thing.
I don't know if windows 10 or that newer one, LOL, allow one to select
which
updates can be installed through windows update, like we can in earlier
windows.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?


Hi Annabelle!

You woun't hear that from me! I've been the computer industry since 1980
and I have always felt that automatic updates are a very bad idea. The
problem with automatic updates is that you may get an update that does
bad thing to your computer, and while you might be able remove the
update, the automatic update feature will just put it back again. It is
always better to wait a while to see what others are saying about an
update and if the news isn't good, you just don't install it!

Gene...


On 7/6/2022 9:25 AM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
What's even more interesting, I run Windows with Automatic Updates turned
off. I know most folks will say that's a security risk, but unfortunately
I learned the hard way when I updated Windows 7 and it did something
funky
that led to mismatched drivers, program incompatibility, and broken
accessibility.
On 07/06/2022 5:57 AM Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
<robin_van_lant@...> wrote:


I have a SMA for a professional license, since I use it for work and
home. I'm not sure FS even offers a SMA for home licenses anymore, but
don't hold me to that.

As I understand it, JAWS is mine to keep, even if I don't renew the SMA,
but eventually the software won't work as Windows and applications keep
progressing. Like you, I like the idea of owning my copy, even if it
becomes outdated if I don't renew the SMA. The annual license is great
for removing the barrier of entry for new JAWS users, but feels like a
fleeting thing that you lose if you cannot afford the annual license one
year.

If your last SMA was 2002, you may not be able to switch base to even a
professional SMA at this point. You are probably best to call FS Sales
and ask about your situation.

Robin


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle
Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2022 4:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional
Costs?

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think
before
clicking links or opening attachments.


I purchased my SMA with a college trust fund back in 2002, as I was
going
to school back then. The SMA was a "Professional" license. I want to try
to change my recent home annual license to a perpetual license, but I'm
not sure how much it would cost to upgrade from one license to another.
Am I right when I hear that a perpetual license never expires?
On 07/06/2022 2:58 AM molly the blind tech lover
<brainardmolly@...> wrote:


I used to have an SMA for Jaws, not sure which version of Jaws it was.
My SMA had expired, and rather than renewing the SMA I purchased the
home annual yearly subscription for around $95. In my opinion it's
easier than trying to renew an expired SMA.

On 7/3/22, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:
I originally purchased an SMA when I originally purchased JAWS,
starting with version 3.7.

On 07/03/2022 3:27 AM Gerald Levy via groups.io
<bwaylimited@...> wrote:




Sorry, no can do. Once you have selected the annual license
option, you cannot switch to the SMA option without purchasing JAWS
outright for $950, if you have not previously done so.


Gerald



On 7/2/2022 9:59 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

> > Hi, it's Annabelle.
I have an Annual license for JAWS 2021, and I'd like to
change it to a perpetual license. Those are the ones that don't
expire, right?
Will it cost me anything? If so, how much. Specifically, I have a
home license for JAWS 2021.

>











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meow meow
 

thanks lol I'm Rosie lol
Iwould like to get window 10 but my new laptop is window 11 and it not work well what I want too
install window 10 would it work?
thanks meow meow lol Rosie



--------------------------------------------------
From: "Annabelle Susan Morison" <foristnights@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 4:16 PM
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?

Hey there Meow Meow!
Your name makes me smile! To turn off automatic updates in new versions of Windows like Windows 10, which doesn't seem to have that parameter in the Control Panel like other previous versions (That really makes me mad), you actually have to create a registry key. If it's not already there, go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion. create a new key called "WindowsUpdate". within that key, create another key called AU. Within that key, create a Dword value called NoAutoUpdate. Set that value to 1. If you have Winaero Tweaker, which also helps, set the parameter of Disable Windows Update to checked, and you should be good to go. It does sound complicated, but it's definitely worth it if you don't wanna be bothered with constant updates!
On 07/06/2022 3:01 PM meow meow <soberwater26q@...> wrote:


how can u turn it off on window 11



--------------------------------------------------
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 8:16 AM
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?

Yes, turning off automatic updates is a good thing.
I don't know if windows 10 or that newer one, LOL, allow one to select
which
updates can be installed through windows update, like we can in earlier
windows.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?


Hi Annabelle!

You woun't hear that from me! I've been the computer industry since 1980
and I have always felt that automatic updates are a very bad idea. The
problem with automatic updates is that you may get an update that does
bad thing to your computer, and while you might be able remove the
update, the automatic update feature will just put it back again. It is
always better to wait a while to see what others are saying about an
update and if the news isn't good, you just don't install it!

Gene...


On 7/6/2022 9:25 AM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
What's even more interesting, I run Windows with Automatic Updates turned
off. I know most folks will say that's a security risk, but unfortunately
I learned the hard way when I updated Windows 7 and it did something
funky
that led to mismatched drivers, program incompatibility, and broken
accessibility.
On 07/06/2022 5:57 AM Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
<robin_van_lant@...> wrote:


I have a SMA for a professional license, since I use it for work and
home. I'm not sure FS even offers a SMA for home licenses anymore, but
don't hold me to that.

As I understand it, JAWS is mine to keep, even if I don't renew the SMA,
but eventually the software won't work as Windows and applications keep
progressing. Like you, I like the idea of owning my copy, even if it
becomes outdated if I don't renew the SMA. The annual license is great
for removing the barrier of entry for new JAWS users, but feels like a
fleeting thing that you lose if you cannot afford the annual license one
year.

If your last SMA was 2002, you may not be able to switch base to even a
professional SMA at this point. You are probably best to call FS Sales
and ask about your situation.

Robin


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle
Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2022 4:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional
Costs?

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think
before
clicking links or opening attachments.


I purchased my SMA with a college trust fund back in 2002, as I was
going
to school back then. The SMA was a "Professional" license. I want to try
to change my recent home annual license to a perpetual license, but I'm
not sure how much it would cost to upgrade from one license to another.
Am I right when I hear that a perpetual license never expires?
On 07/06/2022 2:58 AM molly the blind tech lover
<brainardmolly@...> wrote:


I used to have an SMA for Jaws, not sure which version of Jaws it was.
My SMA had expired, and rather than renewing the SMA I purchased the
home annual yearly subscription for around $95. In my opinion it's
easier than trying to renew an expired SMA.

On 7/3/22, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:
I originally purchased an SMA when I originally purchased JAWS,
starting with version 3.7.

On 07/03/2022 3:27 AM Gerald Levy via groups.io
<bwaylimited@...> wrote:




Sorry, no can do. Once you have selected the annual license
option, you cannot switch to the SMA option without purchasing JAWS
outright for $950, if you have not previously done so.


Gerald



On 7/2/2022 9:59 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

> > Hi, it's Annabelle.
I have an Annual license for JAWS 2021, and I'd like to
change it to a perpetual license. Those are the ones that don't
expire, right?
Will it cost me anything? If so, how much. Specifically, I have a
home license for JAWS 2021.

>











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or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as
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Annabelle Susan Morison
 

You could try that. But be sure to install it on an empty hard drive in case you have data you want to save on the one with Windows 11. And, if you can believe it, my sighted friend Markus (Yes, that's "Markus" with a "K", not a "C"), helped me to install Windows 10, with narrator! Isn't that amazing that you can install Windows using Narrator?

On 07/06/2022 3:23 PM meow meow <soberwater26q@...> wrote:


thanks lol I'm Rosie lol
Iwould like to get window 10 but my new laptop is window 11 and it not work
well what I want too
install window 10 would it work?
thanks meow meow lol Rosie



--------------------------------------------------
From: "Annabelle Susan Morison" <foristnights@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 4:16 PM
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?

Hey there Meow Meow!
Your name makes me smile! To turn off automatic updates in new versions of
Windows like Windows 10, which doesn't seem to have that parameter in the
Control Panel like other previous versions (That really makes me mad), you
actually have to create a registry key. If it's not already there, go to
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion. create a new
key called "WindowsUpdate". within that key, create another key called AU.
Within that key, create a Dword value called NoAutoUpdate. Set that value
to 1. If you have Winaero Tweaker, which also helps, set the parameter of
Disable Windows Update to checked, and you should be good to go. It does
sound complicated, but it's definitely worth it if you don't wanna be
bothered with constant updates!
On 07/06/2022 3:01 PM meow meow <soberwater26q@...> wrote:


how can u turn it off on window 11



--------------------------------------------------
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 8:16 AM
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?

Yes, turning off automatic updates is a good thing.
I don't know if windows 10 or that newer one, LOL, allow one to select
which
updates can be installed through windows update, like we can in earlier
windows.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional
Costs?


Hi Annabelle!

You woun't hear that from me! I've been the computer industry since
1980
and I have always felt that automatic updates are a very bad idea. The
problem with automatic updates is that you may get an update that does
bad thing to your computer, and while you might be able remove the
update, the automatic update feature will just put it back again. It is
always better to wait a while to see what others are saying about an
update and if the news isn't good, you just don't install it!

Gene...


On 7/6/2022 9:25 AM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
What's even more interesting, I run Windows with Automatic Updates
turned
off. I know most folks will say that's a security risk, but
unfortunately
I learned the hard way when I updated Windows 7 and it did something
funky
that led to mismatched drivers, program incompatibility, and broken
accessibility.
On 07/06/2022 5:57 AM Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
<robin_van_lant@...> wrote:


I have a SMA for a professional license, since I use it for work and
home. I'm not sure FS even offers a SMA for home licenses anymore,
but
don't hold me to that.

As I understand it, JAWS is mine to keep, even if I don't renew the
SMA,
but eventually the software won't work as Windows and applications
keep
progressing. Like you, I like the idea of owning my copy, even if it
becomes outdated if I don't renew the SMA. The annual license is
great
for removing the barrier of entry for new JAWS users, but feels like
a
fleeting thing that you lose if you cannot afford the annual license
one
year.

If your last SMA was 2002, you may not be able to switch base to even
a
professional SMA at this point. You are probably best to call FS
Sales
and ask about your situation.

Robin


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle
Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2022 4:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional
Costs?

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think
before
clicking links or opening attachments.


I purchased my SMA with a college trust fund back in 2002, as I was
going
to school back then. The SMA was a "Professional" license. I want to
try
to change my recent home annual license to a perpetual license, but
I'm
not sure how much it would cost to upgrade from one license to
another.
Am I right when I hear that a perpetual license never expires?
On 07/06/2022 2:58 AM molly the blind tech lover
<brainardmolly@...> wrote:


I used to have an SMA for Jaws, not sure which version of Jaws it
was.
My SMA had expired, and rather than renewing the SMA I purchased the
home annual yearly subscription for around $95. In my opinion it's
easier than trying to renew an expired SMA.

On 7/3/22, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:
I originally purchased an SMA when I originally purchased JAWS,
starting with version 3.7.

On 07/03/2022 3:27 AM Gerald Levy via groups.io
<bwaylimited@...> wrote:




Sorry, no can do. Once you have selected the annual license
option, you cannot switch to the SMA option without purchasing
JAWS
outright for $950, if you have not previously done so.


Gerald



On 7/2/2022 9:59 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

> > Hi, it's Annabelle.
I have an Annual license for JAWS 2021, and I'd like to
change it to a perpetual license. Those are the ones that don't
expire, right?
Will it cost me anything? If so, how much. Specifically, I have a
home license for JAWS 2021.

>











KeyCorp Public

KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. prohibits the use of texts or other
unapproved messaging applications for business purposes.

This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential
information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. No
confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost as a result of any
transmission errors. If you are not the intended recipient, you are
strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using
any
of this information. If you have received this communication in
error,
please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its
entirety, whether electronic or hard copy.

This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an
offer,
solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to
buy
or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended
as
investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market
price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other
information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy,
is
subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc.
accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any
views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily
of
KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc.

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representative
employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member
FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association
(“KeyBank
N.A.”). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc
Capital
Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank
N.A.

127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114

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Yup! I'vw done it several times, twice for my own computers and twice for my sister.

Gene...

On 7/6/2022 6:43 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
You could try that. But be sure to install it on an empty hard drive in case you have data you want to save on the one with Windows 11. And, if you can believe it, my sighted friend Markus (Yes, that's "Markus" with a "K", not a "C"), helped me to install Windows 10, with narrator! Isn't that amazing that you can install Windows using Narrator?
On 07/06/2022 3:23 PM meow meow <soberwater26q@...> wrote:

thanks lol I'm Rosie lol
Iwould like to get window 10 but my new laptop is window 11 and it not work
well what I want too
install window 10 would it work?
thanks meow meow lol Rosie



--------------------------------------------------
From: "Annabelle Susan Morison" <foristnights@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 4:16 PM
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?

Hey there Meow Meow!
Your name makes me smile! To turn off automatic updates in new versions of
Windows like Windows 10, which doesn't seem to have that parameter in the
Control Panel like other previous versions (That really makes me mad), you
actually have to create a registry key. If it's not already there, go to
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion. create a new
key called "WindowsUpdate". within that key, create another key called AU.
Within that key, create a Dword value called NoAutoUpdate. Set that value
to 1. If you have Winaero Tweaker, which also helps, set the parameter of
Disable Windows Update to checked, and you should be good to go. It does
sound complicated, but it's definitely worth it if you don't wanna be
bothered with constant updates!
On 07/06/2022 3:01 PM meow meow <soberwater26q@...> wrote:


how can u turn it off on window 11



--------------------------------------------------
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 8:16 AM
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?

Yes, turning off automatic updates is a good thing.
I don't know if windows 10 or that newer one, LOL, allow one to select
which
updates can be installed through windows update, like we can in earlier
windows.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional
Costs?


Hi Annabelle!

You woun't hear that from me! I've been the computer industry since
1980
and I have always felt that automatic updates are a very bad idea. The
problem with automatic updates is that you may get an update that does
bad thing to your computer, and while you might be able remove the
update, the automatic update feature will just put it back again. It is
always better to wait a while to see what others are saying about an
update and if the news isn't good, you just don't install it!

Gene...


On 7/6/2022 9:25 AM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
What's even more interesting, I run Windows with Automatic Updates
turned
off. I know most folks will say that's a security risk, but
unfortunately
I learned the hard way when I updated Windows 7 and it did something
funky
that led to mismatched drivers, program incompatibility, and broken
accessibility.
On 07/06/2022 5:57 AM Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
<robin_van_lant@...> wrote:


I have a SMA for a professional license, since I use it for work and
home. I'm not sure FS even offers a SMA for home licenses anymore,
but
don't hold me to that.

As I understand it, JAWS is mine to keep, even if I don't renew the
SMA,
but eventually the software won't work as Windows and applications
keep
progressing. Like you, I like the idea of owning my copy, even if it
becomes outdated if I don't renew the SMA. The annual license is
great
for removing the barrier of entry for new JAWS users, but feels like
a
fleeting thing that you lose if you cannot afford the annual license
one
year.

If your last SMA was 2002, you may not be able to switch base to even
a
professional SMA at this point. You are probably best to call FS
Sales
and ask about your situation.

Robin


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle
Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2022 4:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional
Costs?

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think
before
clicking links or opening attachments.


I purchased my SMA with a college trust fund back in 2002, as I was
going
to school back then. The SMA was a "Professional" license. I want to
try
to change my recent home annual license to a perpetual license, but
I'm
not sure how much it would cost to upgrade from one license to
another.
Am I right when I hear that a perpetual license never expires?
On 07/06/2022 2:58 AM molly the blind tech lover
<brainardmolly@...> wrote:


I used to have an SMA for Jaws, not sure which version of Jaws it
was.
My SMA had expired, and rather than renewing the SMA I purchased the
home annual yearly subscription for around $95. In my opinion it's
easier than trying to renew an expired SMA.

On 7/3/22, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:
I originally purchased an SMA when I originally purchased JAWS,
starting with version 3.7.

On 07/03/2022 3:27 AM Gerald Levy via groups.io
<bwaylimited@...> wrote:




Sorry, no can do. Once you have selected the annual license
option, you cannot switch to the SMA option without purchasing
JAWS
outright for $950, if you have not previously done so.


Gerald



On 7/2/2022 9:59 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

> > Hi, it's Annabelle.
I have an Annual license for JAWS 2021, and I'd like to
change it to a perpetual license. Those are the ones that don't
expire, right?
Will it cost me anything? If so, how much. Specifically, I have a
home license for JAWS 2021.

>











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I have Jaws 22



--------------------------------------------------
From: "Annabelle Susan Morison" <foristnights@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 4:43 PM
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?

You could try that. But be sure to install it on an empty hard drive in case you have data you want to save on the one with Windows 11. And, if you can believe it, my sighted friend Markus (Yes, that's "Markus" with a "K", not a "C"), helped me to install Windows 10, with narrator! Isn't that amazing that you can install Windows using Narrator?
On 07/06/2022 3:23 PM meow meow <soberwater26q@...> wrote:


thanks lol I'm Rosie lol
Iwould like to get window 10 but my new laptop is window 11 and it not work
well what I want too
install window 10 would it work?
thanks meow meow lol Rosie



--------------------------------------------------
From: "Annabelle Susan Morison" <foristnights@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 4:16 PM
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?

Hey there Meow Meow!
Your name makes me smile! To turn off automatic updates in new versions of
Windows like Windows 10, which doesn't seem to have that parameter in the
Control Panel like other previous versions (That really makes me mad), you
actually have to create a registry key. If it's not already there, go to
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion. create a new
key called "WindowsUpdate". within that key, create another key called AU.
Within that key, create a Dword value called NoAutoUpdate. Set that value
to 1. If you have Winaero Tweaker, which also helps, set the parameter of
Disable Windows Update to checked, and you should be good to go. It does
sound complicated, but it's definitely worth it if you don't wanna be
bothered with constant updates!
On 07/06/2022 3:01 PM meow meow <soberwater26q@...> wrote:


how can u turn it off on window 11



--------------------------------------------------
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 8:16 AM
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?

Yes, turning off automatic updates is a good thing.
I don't know if windows 10 or that newer one, LOL, allow one to select
which
updates can be installed through windows update, like we can in earlier
windows.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional
Costs?


Hi Annabelle!

You woun't hear that from me! I've been the computer industry since
1980
and I have always felt that automatic updates are a very bad idea. The
problem with automatic updates is that you may get an update that does
bad thing to your computer, and while you might be able remove the
update, the automatic update feature will just put it back again. It is
always better to wait a while to see what others are saying about an
update and if the news isn't good, you just don't install it!

Gene...


On 7/6/2022 9:25 AM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
What's even more interesting, I run Windows with Automatic Updates
turned
off. I know most folks will say that's a security risk, but
unfortunately
I learned the hard way when I updated Windows 7 and it did something
funky
that led to mismatched drivers, program incompatibility, and broken
accessibility.
On 07/06/2022 5:57 AM Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
<robin_van_lant@...> wrote:


I have a SMA for a professional license, since I use it for work and
home. I'm not sure FS even offers a SMA for home licenses anymore,
but
don't hold me to that.

As I understand it, JAWS is mine to keep, even if I don't renew the
SMA,
but eventually the software won't work as Windows and applications
keep
progressing. Like you, I like the idea of owning my copy, even if it
becomes outdated if I don't renew the SMA. The annual license is
great
for removing the barrier of entry for new JAWS users, but feels like
a
fleeting thing that you lose if you cannot afford the annual license
one
year.

If your last SMA was 2002, you may not be able to switch base to even
a
professional SMA at this point. You are probably best to call FS
Sales
and ask about your situation.

Robin


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle
Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2022 4:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional
Costs?

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think
before
clicking links or opening attachments.


I purchased my SMA with a college trust fund back in 2002, as I was
going
to school back then. The SMA was a "Professional" license. I want to
try
to change my recent home annual license to a perpetual license, but
I'm
not sure how much it would cost to upgrade from one license to
another.
Am I right when I hear that a perpetual license never expires?
On 07/06/2022 2:58 AM molly the blind tech lover
<brainardmolly@...> wrote:


I used to have an SMA for Jaws, not sure which version of Jaws it
was.
My SMA had expired, and rather than renewing the SMA I purchased the
home annual yearly subscription for around $95. In my opinion it's
easier than trying to renew an expired SMA.

On 7/3/22, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:
I originally purchased an SMA when I originally purchased JAWS,
starting with version 3.7.

On 07/03/2022 3:27 AM Gerald Levy via groups.io
<bwaylimited@...> wrote:




Sorry, no can do. Once you have selected the annual license
option, you cannot switch to the SMA option without purchasing
JAWS
outright for $950, if you have not previously done so.


Gerald



On 7/2/2022 9:59 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

> > Hi, it's Annabelle.
I have an Annual license for JAWS 2021, and I'd like to
change it to a perpetual license. Those are the ones that don't
expire, right?
Will it cost me anything? If so, how much. Specifically, I have a
home license for JAWS 2021.

>











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Generally it is not recommended for you to downgrade back from an original windows 11 to windows 10.
Windows 11 is quite stable now, a year into its launched. Perhaps you can describe what didn't work well on Windows 11.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of meow meow
Sent: Thursday, 7 July, 2022 6:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?

thanks lol I'm Rosie lol
Iwould like to get window 10 but my new laptop is window 11 and it not work well what I want too install window 10 would it work?
thanks meow meow lol Rosie



--------------------------------------------------
From: "Annabelle Susan Morison" <foristnights@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 4:16 PM
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?

Hey there Meow Meow!
Your name makes me smile! To turn off automatic updates in new versions of
Windows like Windows 10, which doesn't seem to have that parameter in the
Control Panel like other previous versions (That really makes me mad), you
actually have to create a registry key. If it's not already there, go to
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion. create a new
key called "WindowsUpdate". within that key, create another key called AU.
Within that key, create a Dword value called NoAutoUpdate. Set that value
to 1. If you have Winaero Tweaker, which also helps, set the parameter of
Disable Windows Update to checked, and you should be good to go. It does
sound complicated, but it's definitely worth it if you don't wanna be
bothered with constant updates!
On 07/06/2022 3:01 PM meow meow <soberwater26q@...> wrote:


how can u turn it off on window 11



--------------------------------------------------
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 8:16 AM
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?

Yes, turning off automatic updates is a good thing.
I don't know if windows 10 or that newer one, LOL, allow one to select
which
updates can be installed through windows update, like we can in earlier
windows.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional
Costs?


Hi Annabelle!

You woun't hear that from me! I've been the computer industry since
1980
and I have always felt that automatic updates are a very bad idea. The
problem with automatic updates is that you may get an update that does
bad thing to your computer, and while you might be able remove the
update, the automatic update feature will just put it back again. It is
always better to wait a while to see what others are saying about an
update and if the news isn't good, you just don't install it!

Gene...


On 7/6/2022 9:25 AM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
What's even more interesting, I run Windows with Automatic Updates
turned
off. I know most folks will say that's a security risk, but
unfortunately
I learned the hard way when I updated Windows 7 and it did something
funky
that led to mismatched drivers, program incompatibility, and broken
accessibility.
On 07/06/2022 5:57 AM Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
<robin_van_lant@...> wrote:


I have a SMA for a professional license, since I use it for work and
home. I'm not sure FS even offers a SMA for home licenses anymore,
but
don't hold me to that.

As I understand it, JAWS is mine to keep, even if I don't renew the
SMA,
but eventually the software won't work as Windows and applications
keep
progressing. Like you, I like the idea of owning my copy, even if it
becomes outdated if I don't renew the SMA. The annual license is
great
for removing the barrier of entry for new JAWS users, but feels like
a
fleeting thing that you lose if you cannot afford the annual license
one
year.

If your last SMA was 2002, you may not be able to switch base to even
a
professional SMA at this point. You are probably best to call FS
Sales
and ask about your situation.

Robin


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle
Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2022 4:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional
Costs?

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think
before
clicking links or opening attachments.


I purchased my SMA with a college trust fund back in 2002, as I was
going
to school back then. The SMA was a "Professional" license. I want to
try
to change my recent home annual license to a perpetual license, but
I'm
not sure how much it would cost to upgrade from one license to
another.
Am I right when I hear that a perpetual license never expires?
On 07/06/2022 2:58 AM molly the blind tech lover
<brainardmolly@...> wrote:


I used to have an SMA for Jaws, not sure which version of Jaws it
was.
My SMA had expired, and rather than renewing the SMA I purchased the
home annual yearly subscription for around $95. In my opinion it's
easier than trying to renew an expired SMA.

On 7/3/22, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:
I originally purchased an SMA when I originally purchased JAWS,
starting with version 3.7.

On 07/03/2022 3:27 AM Gerald Levy via groups.io
<bwaylimited@...> wrote:




Sorry, no can do. Once you have selected the annual license
option, you cannot switch to the SMA option without purchasing
JAWS
outright for $950, if you have not previously done so.


Gerald



On 7/2/2022 9:59 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

> > Hi, it's Annabelle.
I have an Annual license for JAWS 2021, and I'd like to
change it to a perpetual license. Those are the ones that don't
expire, right?
Will it cost me anything? If so, how much. Specifically, I have a
home license for JAWS 2021.

>











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buy
or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended
as
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price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other
information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy,
is
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views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily
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employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member
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