moderated Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.


Michael Walker
 

Hi,

I have an issue where when I open iTunes and am on the main window, I cannot tab or shift tab through it.  I do not get feedback from JAWS 2021.  However, when I test with NVDA, I have no issues.  How can I make this work with JAWS?

Thank you,

Mike


Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

I had an iTunes update this morning, iTunes Version 12.11.4.15 and can tab fine with Jaws 2021.

It may depend on the view you have set, etc.






Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 8:34 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi,

I have an issue where when I open iTunes and am on the main window, I cannot tab or shift tab through it.  I do not get feedback from JAWS 2021.  However, when I test with NVDA, I have no issues.  How can I make this work with JAWS?

Thank you,

Mike


Michael Walker
 

Hi Richard,

Microsoft Store updated me to your version of iTunes just now.  I still have the same problem where I can tab, but not with JAWS. What view should I set, to work best with JAWS?

Thank you,

Mike

On 8/11/2021 10:59 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
I had an iTunes update this morning, iTunes Version 12.11.4.15 and can tab fine with Jaws 2021.

It may depend on the view you have set, etc.






Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 8:34 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi,

I have an issue where when I open iTunes and am on the main window, I cannot tab or shift tab through it.  I do not get feedback from JAWS 2021.  However, when I test with NVDA, I have no issues.  How can I make this work with JAWS?

Thank you,

Mike










Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Well, I'm not sure I'm using the Microsoft store version, but this is what I get when I launch iTunes and start tabbing.
My view is set to Grid and the current settings is to show albums.

iTunes
table
play Button
To activate press spacebar.
volume left right slider
37 percent
To increase or decrease use the Arrow keys.
airplay Button
To activate press spacebar.
Edit
iTunes
up next Button
To activate press spacebar.
search options
iTunes
Music Button
To activate press spacebar.
Library radio button checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
For You radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Browse radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Radio radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Store radio button not checked
1 of 5
iTunes
Store radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Library Sidebar Tree view
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.
Library Sidebar
Library
Edit Button
To activate press spacebar.
Music Playlists Button
To activate press spacebar.
Hide Button
To activate press spacebar.
table
play Button
To activate press spacebar.
table
*At this point, I did a shift tab to the "table, and began using my right arrow key.

table
Whatever Is True, Acapeldridge
Whatever Is True, Acapeldridge selected
Column 1, Row 1
Whatever Is Noble, Acapeldridge
God Forgive The USA, Adam Hill
End of Jaws speech history.


iTunes is most certainly a royal pain. I think I have the Show side bar on, but can't remember exactly.
I just know I can kind of muddle through.







Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 9:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi Richard,

Microsoft Store updated me to your version of iTunes just now.  I still have the same problem where I can tab, but not with JAWS. What view should I set, to work best with JAWS?

Thank you,

Mike

On 8/11/2021 10:59 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
I had an iTunes update this morning, iTunes Version 12.11.4.15 and can tab fine with Jaws 2021.

It may depend on the view you have set, etc.






Richard
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Web site:
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 8:34 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi,

I have an issue where when I open iTunes and am on the main window, I cannot tab or shift tab through it.  I do not get feedback from JAWS 2021.  However, when I test with NVDA, I have no issues.  How can I make this work with JAWS?

Thank you,

Mike











Michael Walker
 

How did you set your view to grid?

On 8/11/2021 11:31 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
Well, I'm not sure I'm using the Microsoft store version, but this is what I get when I launch iTunes and start tabbing.
My view is set to Grid and the current settings is to show albums.

iTunes
table
play Button
To activate press spacebar.
volume left right slider
37 percent
To increase or decrease use the Arrow keys.
airplay Button
To activate press spacebar.
Edit
iTunes
up next Button
To activate press spacebar.
search options
iTunes
Music Button
To activate press spacebar.
Library radio button checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
For You radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Browse radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Radio radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Store radio button not checked
1 of 5
iTunes
Store radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Library Sidebar Tree view
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.
Library Sidebar
Library
Edit Button
To activate press spacebar.
Music Playlists Button
To activate press spacebar.
Hide Button
To activate press spacebar.
table
play Button
To activate press spacebar.
table
*At this point, I did a shift tab to the "table, and began using my right arrow key.

table
Whatever Is True, Acapeldridge
Whatever Is True, Acapeldridge selected
Column 1, Row 1
Whatever Is Noble, Acapeldridge
God Forgive The USA, Adam Hill
End of Jaws speech history.


iTunes is most certainly a royal pain. I think I have the Show side bar on, but can't remember exactly.
I just know I can kind of muddle through.







Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 9:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi Richard,

Microsoft Store updated me to your version of iTunes just now.  I still have the same problem where I can tab, but not with JAWS. What view should I set, to work best with JAWS?

Thank you,

Mike

On 8/11/2021 10:59 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
I had an iTunes update this morning, iTunes Version 12.11.4.15 and can tab fine with Jaws 2021.

It may depend on the view you have set, etc.






Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site:
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 8:34 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi,

I have an issue where when I open iTunes and am on the main window, I cannot tab or shift tab through it.  I do not get feedback from JAWS 2021.  However, when I test with NVDA, I have no issues.  How can I make this work with JAWS?

Thank you,

Mike

















Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Hi,
Press Alt+v and down arrow through:
Media Kind sub menu
All Music a
Only Downloaded Music checked
View As sub menu *right arrow to open the View As menu and the first item is:
Grid
Press enter to check it and close the menu.

HTH,


Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 9:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

How did you set your view to grid?

On 8/11/2021 11:31 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
Well, I'm not sure I'm using the Microsoft store version, but this is what I get when I launch iTunes and start tabbing.
My view is set to Grid and the current settings is to show albums.

iTunes
table
play Button
To activate press spacebar.
volume left right slider
37 percent
To increase or decrease use the Arrow keys.
airplay Button
To activate press spacebar.
Edit
iTunes
up next Button
To activate press spacebar.
search options
iTunes
Music Button
To activate press spacebar.
Library radio button checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
For You radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Browse radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Radio radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Store radio button not checked
1 of 5
iTunes
Store radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Library Sidebar Tree view
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.
Library Sidebar
Library
Edit Button
To activate press spacebar.
Music Playlists Button
To activate press spacebar.
Hide Button
To activate press spacebar.
table
play Button
To activate press spacebar.
table
*At this point, I did a shift tab to the "table, and began using my right arrow key.

table
Whatever Is True, Acapeldridge
Whatever Is True, Acapeldridge selected Column 1, Row 1 Whatever Is
Noble, Acapeldridge God Forgive The USA, Adam Hill End of Jaws speech
history.


iTunes is most certainly a royal pain. I think I have the Show side bar on, but can't remember exactly.
I just know I can kind of muddle through.







Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&;data=04%7C01%7C%7C6f5061bf826f44b5682f08d95ce5fbcb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637642965099820724%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=yK12viaZqpgygabHihn3uR4vQCb0OH%2BHYxFvmhuXQH4%3D&amp;reserved=0

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 9:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi Richard,

Microsoft Store updated me to your version of iTunes just now.  I still have the same problem where I can tab, but not with JAWS. What view should I set, to work best with JAWS?

Thank you,

Mike

On 8/11/2021 10:59 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
I had an iTunes update this morning, iTunes Version 12.11.4.15 and can tab fine with Jaws 2021.

It may depend on the view you have set, etc.






Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site:
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu%2F&;data=04%7C01%7C%7C6f5061bf826f44b5682f08d95ce5fbcb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637642965099820724%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=4ia3duzo8IgLeIgmHNQE7nmQtzRnJeZ6Pqp0c41IYac%3D&amp;reserved=0
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 8:34 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi,

I have an issue where when I open iTunes and am on the main window, I cannot tab or shift tab through it.  I do not get feedback from JAWS 2021.  However, when I test with NVDA, I have no issues.  How can I make this work with JAWS?

Thank you,

Mike


















Michael Walker
 

Strange that I don't get a view as option and you do.

On 8/11/2021 11:47 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
Hi,
Press Alt+v and down arrow through:
Media Kind sub menu
All Music a
Only Downloaded Music checked
View As sub menu *right arrow to open the View As menu and the first item is:
Grid
Press enter to check it and close the menu.

HTH,


Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 9:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

How did you set your view to grid?

On 8/11/2021 11:31 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
Well, I'm not sure I'm using the Microsoft store version, but this is what I get when I launch iTunes and start tabbing.
My view is set to Grid and the current settings is to show albums.

iTunes
table
play Button
To activate press spacebar.
volume left right slider
37 percent
To increase or decrease use the Arrow keys.
airplay Button
To activate press spacebar.
Edit
iTunes
up next Button
To activate press spacebar.
search options
iTunes
Music Button
To activate press spacebar.
Library radio button checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
For You radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Browse radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Radio radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Store radio button not checked
1 of 5
iTunes
Store radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Library Sidebar Tree view
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.
Library Sidebar
Library
Edit Button
To activate press spacebar.
Music Playlists Button
To activate press spacebar.
Hide Button
To activate press spacebar.
table
play Button
To activate press spacebar.
table
*At this point, I did a shift tab to the "table, and began using my right arrow key.

table
Whatever Is True, Acapeldridge
Whatever Is True, Acapeldridge selected Column 1, Row 1 Whatever Is
Noble, Acapeldridge God Forgive The USA, Adam Hill End of Jaws speech
history.


iTunes is most certainly a royal pain. I think I have the Show side bar on, but can't remember exactly.
I just know I can kind of muddle through.







Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&;data=04%7C01%7C%7C6f5061bf826f44b5682f08d95ce5fbcb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637642965099820724%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=yK12viaZqpgygabHihn3uR4vQCb0OH%2BHYxFvmhuXQH4%3D&amp;reserved=0

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 9:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi Richard,

Microsoft Store updated me to your version of iTunes just now.  I still have the same problem where I can tab, but not with JAWS. What view should I set, to work best with JAWS?

Thank you,

Mike

On 8/11/2021 10:59 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
I had an iTunes update this morning, iTunes Version 12.11.4.15 and can tab fine with Jaws 2021.

It may depend on the view you have set, etc.






Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site:
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 8:34 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi,

I have an issue where when I open iTunes and am on the main window, I cannot tab or shift tab through it.  I do not get feedback from JAWS 2021.  However, when I test with NVDA, I have no issues.  How can I make this work with JAWS?

Thank you,

Mike























Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Michael,
Press Control+1 to make sure Music is selected as the Media Kind and check the View menu again.
Or, press Control+j for the View Options and see if that helps.

Like I say, iTunes is a pain.




Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 9:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Strange that I don't get a view as option and you do.

On 8/11/2021 11:47 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
Hi,
Press Alt+v and down arrow through:
Media Kind sub menu
All Music a
Only Downloaded Music checked
View As sub menu *right arrow to open the View As menu and the first item is:
Grid
Press enter to check it and close the menu.

HTH,


Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site:
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 9:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

How did you set your view to grid?

On 8/11/2021 11:31 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
Well, I'm not sure I'm using the Microsoft store version, but this is what I get when I launch iTunes and start tabbing.
My view is set to Grid and the current settings is to show albums.

iTunes
table
play Button
To activate press spacebar.
volume left right slider
37 percent
To increase or decrease use the Arrow keys.
airplay Button
To activate press spacebar.
Edit
iTunes
up next Button
To activate press spacebar.
search options
iTunes
Music Button
To activate press spacebar.
Library radio button checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
For You radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Browse radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Radio radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Store radio button not checked
1 of 5
iTunes
Store radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Library Sidebar Tree view
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.
Library Sidebar
Library
Edit Button
To activate press spacebar.
Music Playlists Button
To activate press spacebar.
Hide Button
To activate press spacebar.
table
play Button
To activate press spacebar.
table
*At this point, I did a shift tab to the "table, and began using my right arrow key.

table
Whatever Is True, Acapeldridge
Whatever Is True, Acapeldridge selected Column 1, Row 1 Whatever Is
Noble, Acapeldridge God Forgive The USA, Adam Hill End of Jaws speech
history.


iTunes is most certainly a royal pain. I think I have the Show side bar on, but can't remember exactly.
I just know I can kind of muddle through.







Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site:
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 9:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi Richard,

Microsoft Store updated me to your version of iTunes just now.  I still have the same problem where I can tab, but not with JAWS. What view should I set, to work best with JAWS?

Thank you,

Mike

On 8/11/2021 10:59 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
I had an iTunes update this morning, iTunes Version 12.11.4.15 and can tab fine with Jaws 2021.

It may depend on the view you have set, etc.






Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site:
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 8:34 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi,

I have an issue where when I open iTunes and am on the main window, I cannot tab or shift tab through it.  I do not get feedback from JAWS 2021.  However, when I test with NVDA, I have no issues.  How can I make this work with JAWS?

Thank you,

Mike
























Michael Walker
 

Music is selected as the media kind. View options doesn't have anything for me. I think I may just reinstall iTunes from the Apple website, instead of using the Windows Store version.

On 8/11/2021 11:53 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
Michael,
Press Control+1 to make sure Music is selected as the Media Kind and check the View menu again.
Or, press Control+j for the View Options and see if that helps.

Like I say, iTunes is a pain.




Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 9:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Strange that I don't get a view as option and you do.

On 8/11/2021 11:47 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
Hi,
Press Alt+v and down arrow through:
Media Kind sub menu
All Music a
Only Downloaded Music checked
View As sub menu *right arrow to open the View As menu and the first item is:
Grid
Press enter to check it and close the menu.

HTH,


Richard
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 9:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

How did you set your view to grid?

On 8/11/2021 11:31 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
Well, I'm not sure I'm using the Microsoft store version, but this is what I get when I launch iTunes and start tabbing.
My view is set to Grid and the current settings is to show albums.

iTunes
table
play Button
To activate press spacebar.
volume left right slider
37 percent
To increase or decrease use the Arrow keys.
airplay Button
To activate press spacebar.
Edit
iTunes
up next Button
To activate press spacebar.
search options
iTunes
Music Button
To activate press spacebar.
Library radio button checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
For You radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Browse radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Radio radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Store radio button not checked
1 of 5
iTunes
Store radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Library Sidebar Tree view
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.
Library Sidebar
Library
Edit Button
To activate press spacebar.
Music Playlists Button
To activate press spacebar.
Hide Button
To activate press spacebar.
table
play Button
To activate press spacebar.
table
*At this point, I did a shift tab to the "table, and began using my right arrow key.

table
Whatever Is True, Acapeldridge
Whatever Is True, Acapeldridge selected Column 1, Row 1 Whatever Is
Noble, Acapeldridge God Forgive The USA, Adam Hill End of Jaws speech
history.


iTunes is most certainly a royal pain. I think I have the Show side bar on, but can't remember exactly.
I just know I can kind of muddle through.







Richard
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 9:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi Richard,

Microsoft Store updated me to your version of iTunes just now.  I still have the same problem where I can tab, but not with JAWS. What view should I set, to work best with JAWS?

Thank you,

Mike

On 8/11/2021 10:59 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
I had an iTunes update this morning, iTunes Version 12.11.4.15 and can tab fine with Jaws 2021.

It may depend on the view you have set, etc.






Richard
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 8:34 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi,

I have an issue where when I open iTunes and am on the main window, I cannot tab or shift tab through it.  I do not get feedback from JAWS 2021.  However, when I test with NVDA, I have no issues.  How can I make this work with JAWS?

Thank you,

Mike




























Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Are you using F6? It's at least as important as tab in iTunes

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 9:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi Richard,

Microsoft Store updated me to your version of iTunes just now.  I still have the same problem where I can tab, but not with JAWS. What view should I set, to work best with JAWS?

Thank you,

Mike

On 8/11/2021 10:59 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
I had an iTunes update this morning, iTunes Version 12.11.4.15 and can tab fine with Jaws 2021.

It may depend on the view you have set, etc.






Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 8:34 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi,

I have an issue where when I open iTunes and am on the main window, I cannot tab or shift tab through it.  I do not get feedback from JAWS 2021.  However, when I test with NVDA, I have no issues.  How can I make this work with JAWS?

Thank you,

Mike











Michael Walker
 

Yes. I used both. With JAWS, the problem I get is that when I use either tab or f6, I may not get any speech, and the cursor doesn't move, unless I tab or f6 multiple times. It acts as if it's locked up, but when I use NVDA, everything navigates smoothly.

On 8/11/2021 11:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Are you using F6? It's at least as important as tab in iTunes

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 9:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi Richard,

Microsoft Store updated me to your version of iTunes just now.  I still have the same problem where I can tab, but not with JAWS. What view should I set, to work best with JAWS?

Thank you,

Mike

On 8/11/2021 10:59 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
I had an iTunes update this morning, iTunes Version 12.11.4.15 and can tab fine with Jaws 2021.

It may depend on the view you have set, etc.






Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 8:34 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi,

I have an issue where when I open iTunes and am on the main window, I cannot tab or shift tab through it.  I do not get feedback from JAWS 2021.  However, when I test with NVDA, I have no issues.  How can I make this work with JAWS?

Thank you,

Mike

















Michael Mote
 

Hi all. I would not recommend using the Windows Store app version of iTunes.
I would download the desktop version instead. The easiest way to do that is
through the ninite site.
http://www.ninite.com. Select the check box for iTunes, and then locate the
button that says "Get Your Ninite" and download the file that way. You get
iTunes, and no add-ons or anything like that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 11:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Well, I'm not sure I'm using the Microsoft store version, but this is what I
get when I launch iTunes and start tabbing.
My view is set to Grid and the current settings is to show albums.

iTunes
table
play Button
To activate press spacebar.
volume left right slider
37 percent
To increase or decrease use the Arrow keys.
airplay Button
To activate press spacebar.
Edit
iTunes
up next Button
To activate press spacebar.
search options
iTunes
Music Button
To activate press spacebar.
Library radio button checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
For You radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Browse radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Radio radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Store radio button not checked
1 of 5
iTunes
Store radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Library Sidebar Tree view
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.
Library Sidebar
Library
Edit Button
To activate press spacebar.
Music Playlists Button
To activate press spacebar.
Hide Button
To activate press spacebar.
table
play Button
To activate press spacebar.
table
*At this point, I did a shift tab to the "table, and began using my right
arrow key.

table
Whatever Is True, Acapeldridge
Whatever Is True, Acapeldridge selected Column 1, Row 1 Whatever Is Noble,
Acapeldridge God Forgive The USA, Adam Hill End of Jaws speech history.


iTunes is most certainly a royal pain. I think I have the Show side bar on,
but can't remember exactly.
I just know I can kind of muddle through.







Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 9:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi Richard,

Microsoft Store updated me to your version of iTunes just now.  I still have
the same problem where I can tab, but not with JAWS. What view should I set,
to work best with JAWS?

Thank you,

Mike

On 8/11/2021 10:59 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
I had an iTunes update this morning, iTunes Version 12.11.4.15 and can tab
fine with Jaws 2021.

It may depend on the view you have set, etc.






Richard
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 8:34 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi,

I have an issue where when I open iTunes and am on the main window, I
cannot tab or shift tab through it.  I do not get feedback from JAWS 2021. 
However, when I test with NVDA, I have no issues.  How can I make this work
with JAWS?

Thank you,

Mike











Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Try control_j and see what that gives you.




Richard
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Web site: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 9:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Music is selected as the media kind. View options doesn't have anything for me. I think I may just reinstall iTunes from the Apple website, instead of using the Windows Store version.

On 8/11/2021 11:53 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
Michael,
Press Control+1 to make sure Music is selected as the Media Kind and check the View menu again.
Or, press Control+j for the View Options and see if that helps.

Like I say, iTunes is a pain.




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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 9:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Strange that I don't get a view as option and you do.

On 8/11/2021 11:47 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
Hi,
Press Alt+v and down arrow through:
Media Kind sub menu
All Music a
Only Downloaded Music checked
View As sub menu *right arrow to open the View As menu and the first item is:
Grid
Press enter to check it and close the menu.

HTH,


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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 9:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

How did you set your view to grid?

On 8/11/2021 11:31 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
Well, I'm not sure I'm using the Microsoft store version, but this is what I get when I launch iTunes and start tabbing.
My view is set to Grid and the current settings is to show albums.

iTunes
table
play Button
To activate press spacebar.
volume left right slider
37 percent
To increase or decrease use the Arrow keys.
airplay Button
To activate press spacebar.
Edit
iTunes
up next Button
To activate press spacebar.
search options
iTunes
Music Button
To activate press spacebar.
Library radio button checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
For You radio button not checked To change the selection press
Up or Down Arrow.
Browse radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Radio radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Store radio button not checked
1 of 5
iTunes
Store radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Library Sidebar Tree view
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.
Library Sidebar
Library
Edit Button
To activate press spacebar.
Music Playlists Button
To activate press spacebar.
Hide Button
To activate press spacebar.
table
play Button
To activate press spacebar.
table
*At this point, I did a shift tab to the "table, and began using my right arrow key.

table
Whatever Is True, Acapeldridge
Whatever Is True, Acapeldridge selected Column 1, Row 1 Whatever
Is Noble, Acapeldridge God Forgive The USA, Adam Hill End of Jaws
speech history.


iTunes is most certainly a royal pain. I think I have the Show side bar on, but can't remember exactly.
I just know I can kind of muddle through.







Richard
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 9:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi Richard,

Microsoft Store updated me to your version of iTunes just now.  I still have the same problem where I can tab, but not with JAWS. What view should I set, to work best with JAWS?

Thank you,

Mike

On 8/11/2021 10:59 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
I had an iTunes update this morning, iTunes Version 12.11.4.15 and can tab fine with Jaws 2021.

It may depend on the view you have set, etc.






Richard
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 8:34 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi,

I have an issue where when I open iTunes and am on the main window, I cannot tab or shift tab through it.  I do not get feedback from JAWS 2021.  However, when I test with NVDA, I have no issues.  How can I make this work with JAWS?

Thank you,

Mike





























Michael Walker
 

Michael, why wouldn't you download the desktop version from Apple, instead of using the website you posted?

On 8/11/2021 12:02 PM, Michael Mote wrote:
Hi all. I would not recommend using the Windows Store app version of iTunes.
I would download the desktop version instead. The easiest way to do that is
through the ninite site.
http://www.ninite.com. Select the check box for iTunes, and then locate the
button that says "Get Your Ninite" and download the file that way. You get
iTunes, and no add-ons or anything like that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 11:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Well, I'm not sure I'm using the Microsoft store version, but this is what I
get when I launch iTunes and start tabbing.
My view is set to Grid and the current settings is to show albums.

iTunes
table
play Button
To activate press spacebar.
volume left right slider
37 percent
To increase or decrease use the Arrow keys.
airplay Button
To activate press spacebar.
Edit
iTunes
up next Button
To activate press spacebar.
search options
iTunes
Music Button
To activate press spacebar.
Library radio button checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
For You radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Browse radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Radio radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Store radio button not checked
1 of 5
iTunes
Store radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Library Sidebar Tree view
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.
Library Sidebar
Library
Edit Button
To activate press spacebar.
Music Playlists Button
To activate press spacebar.
Hide Button
To activate press spacebar.
table
play Button
To activate press spacebar.
table
*At this point, I did a shift tab to the "table, and began using my right
arrow key.

table
Whatever Is True, Acapeldridge
Whatever Is True, Acapeldridge selected Column 1, Row 1 Whatever Is Noble,
Acapeldridge God Forgive The USA, Adam Hill End of Jaws speech history.


iTunes is most certainly a royal pain. I think I have the Show side bar on,
but can't remember exactly.
I just know I can kind of muddle through.







Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 9:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi Richard,

Microsoft Store updated me to your version of iTunes just now.  I still have
the same problem where I can tab, but not with JAWS. What view should I set,
to work best with JAWS?

Thank you,

Mike

On 8/11/2021 10:59 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
I had an iTunes update this morning, iTunes Version 12.11.4.15 and can tab
fine with Jaws 2021.
It may depend on the view you have set, etc.






Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site:
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
rner42.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C5bb29b940eaa46970f7f08d95ce3c1c6%7
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 8:34 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi,

I have an issue where when I open iTunes and am on the main window, I
cannot tab or shift tab through it.  I do not get feedback from JAWS 2021.
However, when I test with NVDA, I have no issues.  How can I make this work
with JAWS?
Thank you,

Mike























Michael Mote
 

Hi Michael. You certainly can, but the web-site I mentioned allows you to download a lot of programs without any add-ons. IT folks use it a lot, and it is quite handy.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 12:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Michael, why wouldn't you download the desktop version from Apple, instead of using the website you posted?

On 8/11/2021 12:02 PM, Michael Mote wrote:
Hi all. I would not recommend using the Windows Store app version of iTunes.
I would download the desktop version instead. The easiest way to do
that is through the ninite site.
http://www.ninite.com. Select the check box for iTunes, and then
locate the button that says "Get Your Ninite" and download the file
that way. You get iTunes, and no add-ons or anything like that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 11:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Well, I'm not sure I'm using the Microsoft store version, but this is
what I get when I launch iTunes and start tabbing.
My view is set to Grid and the current settings is to show albums.

iTunes
table
play Button
To activate press spacebar.
volume left right slider
37 percent
To increase or decrease use the Arrow keys.
airplay Button
To activate press spacebar.
Edit
iTunes
up next Button
To activate press spacebar.
search options
iTunes
Music Button
To activate press spacebar.
Library radio button checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
For You radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Browse radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Radio radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Store radio button not checked
1 of 5
iTunes
Store radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Library Sidebar Tree view
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.
Library Sidebar
Library
Edit Button
To activate press spacebar.
Music Playlists Button
To activate press spacebar.
Hide Button
To activate press spacebar.
table
play Button
To activate press spacebar.
table
*At this point, I did a shift tab to the "table, and began using my
right arrow key.

table
Whatever Is True, Acapeldridge
Whatever Is True, Acapeldridge selected Column 1, Row 1 Whatever Is
Noble, Acapeldridge God Forgive The USA, Adam Hill End of Jaws speech history.


iTunes is most certainly a royal pain. I think I have the Show side
bar on, but can't remember exactly.
I just know I can kind of muddle through.







Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 9:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi Richard,

Microsoft Store updated me to your version of iTunes just now. I
still have the same problem where I can tab, but not with JAWS. What
view should I set, to work best with JAWS?

Thank you,

Mike

On 8/11/2021 10:59 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
I had an iTunes update this morning, iTunes Version 12.11.4.15 and
can tab
fine with Jaws 2021.
It may depend on the view you have set, etc.






Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site:
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
u
rner42.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C5bb29b940eaa46970f7f08d95ce3c1c6%
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 8:34 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi,

I have an issue where when I open iTunes and am on the main window, I
cannot tab or shift tab through it. I do not get feedback from JAWS 2021.
However, when I test with NVDA, I have no issues. How can I make this
work with JAWS?
Thank you,

Mike
























Michael Walker
 

Richard, CTRL+J is what I tried, to bring up the view options. Grid view wasn't an option there. I may try Michael's suggestion of downloading the desktop version from Apple.

On 8/11/2021 12:04 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
Try control_j and see what that gives you.




Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 9:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Music is selected as the media kind. View options doesn't have anything for me. I think I may just reinstall iTunes from the Apple website, instead of using the Windows Store version.

On 8/11/2021 11:53 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
Michael,
Press Control+1 to make sure Music is selected as the Media Kind and check the View menu again.
Or, press Control+j for the View Options and see if that helps.

Like I say, iTunes is a pain.




Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site:
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rner42.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7Cfb997e072d654ae1c7e908d95ce8f533%7
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 9:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Strange that I don't get a view as option and you do.

On 8/11/2021 11:47 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
Hi,
Press Alt+v and down arrow through:
Media Kind sub menu
All Music a
Only Downloaded Music checked
View As sub menu *right arrow to open the View As menu and the first item is:
Grid
Press enter to check it and close the menu.

HTH,


Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 9:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

How did you set your view to grid?

On 8/11/2021 11:31 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
Well, I'm not sure I'm using the Microsoft store version, but this is what I get when I launch iTunes and start tabbing.
My view is set to Grid and the current settings is to show albums.

iTunes
table
play Button
To activate press spacebar.
volume left right slider
37 percent
To increase or decrease use the Arrow keys.
airplay Button
To activate press spacebar.
Edit
iTunes
up next Button
To activate press spacebar.
search options
iTunes
Music Button
To activate press spacebar.
Library radio button checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
For You radio button not checked To change the selection press
Up or Down Arrow.
Browse radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Radio radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Store radio button not checked
1 of 5
iTunes
Store radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Library Sidebar Tree view
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.
Library Sidebar
Library
Edit Button
To activate press spacebar.
Music Playlists Button
To activate press spacebar.
Hide Button
To activate press spacebar.
table
play Button
To activate press spacebar.
table
*At this point, I did a shift tab to the "table, and began using my right arrow key.

table
Whatever Is True, Acapeldridge
Whatever Is True, Acapeldridge selected Column 1, Row 1 Whatever
Is Noble, Acapeldridge God Forgive The USA, Adam Hill End of Jaws
speech history.


iTunes is most certainly a royal pain. I think I have the Show side bar on, but can't remember exactly.
I just know I can kind of muddle through.







Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site:
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.
t%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7Cfb997e072d654ae1c7e908d95ce8f533%7C84df9e
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 9:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi Richard,

Microsoft Store updated me to your version of iTunes just now.  I still have the same problem where I can tab, but not with JAWS. What view should I set, to work best with JAWS?

Thank you,

Mike

On 8/11/2021 10:59 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
I had an iTunes update this morning, iTunes Version 12.11.4.15 and can tab fine with Jaws 2021.

It may depend on the view you have set, etc.






Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site:
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 8:34 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi,

I have an issue where when I open iTunes and am on the main window, I cannot tab or shift tab through it.  I do not get feedback from JAWS 2021.  However, when I test with NVDA, I have no issues.  How can I make this work with JAWS?

Thank you,

Mike
































Michael Walker
 

Hi Michael, I see. I'm typically just skeptical of downloading the programs I want from third party sources, as opposed to getting the program from the company that makes it. The reason for this is that the third party site may eventually not keep up with the latest version, or could insert a backdoor that one doesn't know about. You never know what a third party site could do, since it is outside of the control of the company that makes the program you want.

On 8/11/2021 12:06 PM, Michael Mote wrote:
Hi Michael. You certainly can, but the web-site I mentioned allows you to download a lot of programs without any add-ons. IT folks use it a lot, and it is quite handy.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 12:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Michael, why wouldn't you download the desktop version from Apple, instead of using the website you posted?

On 8/11/2021 12:02 PM, Michael Mote wrote:
Hi all. I would not recommend using the Windows Store app version of iTunes.
I would download the desktop version instead. The easiest way to do
that is through the ninite site.
http://www.ninite.com. Select the check box for iTunes, and then
locate the button that says "Get Your Ninite" and download the file
that way. You get iTunes, and no add-ons or anything like that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 11:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Well, I'm not sure I'm using the Microsoft store version, but this is
what I get when I launch iTunes and start tabbing.
My view is set to Grid and the current settings is to show albums.

iTunes
table
play Button
To activate press spacebar.
volume left right slider
37 percent
To increase or decrease use the Arrow keys.
airplay Button
To activate press spacebar.
Edit
iTunes
up next Button
To activate press spacebar.
search options
iTunes
Music Button
To activate press spacebar.
Library radio button checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
For You radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Browse radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Radio radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Store radio button not checked
1 of 5
iTunes
Store radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Library Sidebar Tree view
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.
Library Sidebar
Library
Edit Button
To activate press spacebar.
Music Playlists Button
To activate press spacebar.
Hide Button
To activate press spacebar.
table
play Button
To activate press spacebar.
table
*At this point, I did a shift tab to the "table, and began using my
right arrow key.

table
Whatever Is True, Acapeldridge
Whatever Is True, Acapeldridge selected Column 1, Row 1 Whatever Is
Noble, Acapeldridge God Forgive The USA, Adam Hill End of Jaws speech history.


iTunes is most certainly a royal pain. I think I have the Show side
bar on, but can't remember exactly.
I just know I can kind of muddle through.







Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 9:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi Richard,

Microsoft Store updated me to your version of iTunes just now. I
still have the same problem where I can tab, but not with JAWS. What
view should I set, to work best with JAWS?

Thank you,

Mike

On 8/11/2021 10:59 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
I had an iTunes update this morning, iTunes Version 12.11.4.15 and
can tab
fine with Jaws 2021.
It may depend on the view you have set, etc.






Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site:
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 8:34 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi,

I have an issue where when I open iTunes and am on the main window, I
cannot tab or shift tab through it. I do not get feedback from JAWS 2021.
However, when I test with NVDA, I have no issues. How can I make this
work with JAWS?
Thank you,

Mike






























Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

No add-on is included if you download iTunes from Apple directly.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Mote
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 10:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi Michael. You certainly can, but the web-site I mentioned allows you to download a lot of programs without any add-ons. IT folks use it a lot, and it is quite handy.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 12:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Michael, why wouldn't you download the desktop version from Apple, instead of using the website you posted?

On 8/11/2021 12:02 PM, Michael Mote wrote:
Hi all. I would not recommend using the Windows Store app version of iTunes.
I would download the desktop version instead. The easiest way to do
that is through the ninite site.
http://www.ninite.com. Select the check box for iTunes, and then
locate the button that says "Get Your Ninite" and download the file
that way. You get iTunes, and no add-ons or anything like that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 11:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Well, I'm not sure I'm using the Microsoft store version, but this is
what I get when I launch iTunes and start tabbing.
My view is set to Grid and the current settings is to show albums.

iTunes
table
play Button
To activate press spacebar.
volume left right slider
37 percent
To increase or decrease use the Arrow keys.
airplay Button
To activate press spacebar.
Edit
iTunes
up next Button
To activate press spacebar.
search options
iTunes
Music Button
To activate press spacebar.
Library radio button checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
For You radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Browse radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Radio radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Store radio button not checked
1 of 5
iTunes
Store radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Library Sidebar Tree view
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.
Library Sidebar
Library
Edit Button
To activate press spacebar.
Music Playlists Button
To activate press spacebar.
Hide Button
To activate press spacebar.
table
play Button
To activate press spacebar.
table
*At this point, I did a shift tab to the "table, and began using my
right arrow key.

table
Whatever Is True, Acapeldridge
Whatever Is True, Acapeldridge selected Column 1, Row 1 Whatever Is
Noble, Acapeldridge God Forgive The USA, Adam Hill End of Jaws speech history.


iTunes is most certainly a royal pain. I think I have the Show side
bar on, but can't remember exactly.
I just know I can kind of muddle through.







Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 9:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi Richard,

Microsoft Store updated me to your version of iTunes just now. I
still have the same problem where I can tab, but not with JAWS. What
view should I set, to work best with JAWS?

Thank you,

Mike

On 8/11/2021 10:59 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
I had an iTunes update this morning, iTunes Version 12.11.4.15 and
can tab
fine with Jaws 2021.
It may depend on the view you have set, etc.






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Web site:
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 8:34 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi,

I have an issue where when I open iTunes and am on the main window, I
cannot tab or shift tab through it. I do not get feedback from JAWS 2021.
However, when I test with NVDA, I have no issues. How can I make this
work with JAWS?
Thank you,

Mike
























Michael Walker
 

I suppose you could consider Apple Software Update an add-on since that helps update iTunes and other Apple products like iCloud. Add-ons like that are necessary though.

On 8/11/2021 12:46 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
No add-on is included if you download iTunes from Apple directly.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Mote
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 10:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi Michael. You certainly can, but the web-site I mentioned allows you to download a lot of programs without any add-ons. IT folks use it a lot, and it is quite handy.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 12:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Michael, why wouldn't you download the desktop version from Apple, instead of using the website you posted?

On 8/11/2021 12:02 PM, Michael Mote wrote:
Hi all. I would not recommend using the Windows Store app version of iTunes.
I would download the desktop version instead. The easiest way to do
that is through the ninite site.
http://www.ninite.com. Select the check box for iTunes, and then
locate the button that says "Get Your Ninite" and download the file
that way. You get iTunes, and no add-ons or anything like that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 11:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Well, I'm not sure I'm using the Microsoft store version, but this is
what I get when I launch iTunes and start tabbing.
My view is set to Grid and the current settings is to show albums.

iTunes
table
play Button
To activate press spacebar.
volume left right slider
37 percent
To increase or decrease use the Arrow keys.
airplay Button
To activate press spacebar.
Edit
iTunes
up next Button
To activate press spacebar.
search options
iTunes
Music Button
To activate press spacebar.
Library radio button checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
For You radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Browse radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Radio radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Store radio button not checked
1 of 5
iTunes
Store radio button not checked
To change the selection press Up or Down Arrow.
Library Sidebar Tree view
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.
Library Sidebar
Library
Edit Button
To activate press spacebar.
Music Playlists Button
To activate press spacebar.
Hide Button
To activate press spacebar.
table
play Button
To activate press spacebar.
table
*At this point, I did a shift tab to the "table, and began using my
right arrow key.

table
Whatever Is True, Acapeldridge
Whatever Is True, Acapeldridge selected Column 1, Row 1 Whatever Is
Noble, Acapeldridge God Forgive The USA, Adam Hill End of Jaws speech history.


iTunes is most certainly a royal pain. I think I have the Show side
bar on, but can't remember exactly.
I just know I can kind of muddle through.







Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 9:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi Richard,

Microsoft Store updated me to your version of iTunes just now. I
still have the same problem where I can tab, but not with JAWS. What
view should I set, to work best with JAWS?

Thank you,

Mike

On 8/11/2021 10:59 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
I had an iTunes update this morning, iTunes Version 12.11.4.15 and
can tab
fine with Jaws 2021.
It may depend on the view you have set, etc.






Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site:
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
u
rner42.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C5bb29b940eaa46970f7f08d95ce3c1c6%
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C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637642955535175150%7CUnkn
o
wn%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
L
CJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=Tt68vpi0wYB%2BdUNlS5QTCmrLcIQxsLvcmM2Q
F
0MV3Zk%3D&amp;reserved=0

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 8:34 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Cannot tab through iTunes 12.11.3.17 with JAWS 2021.

Hi,

I have an issue where when I open iTunes and am on the main window, I
cannot tab or shift tab through it. I do not get feedback from JAWS 2021.
However, when I test with NVDA, I have no issues. How can I make this
work with JAWS?
Thank you,

Mike