Moderated CanJaws 2023 Speak Passwords
Hello
Does anybody know of a setting or script that will allow Jaws 2023 to emulate the functionality of NVDA with the Speak Passwords addon.
At the moment all that Jaws will announce is star at my bank login page which is stressful for a clumsy totally blind typist like myself. I risk being locked out of my accounts with clumsy mis-typings as I cannot see the keyboard to check what is being typed.
For this reason I normally use NVDA for this purpose but this has stopped working on the bank login page and is unable to locate the required edit boxes. Jaws 2023 can, however, still detect the edit box but is otherwise unhelpful.
David griffith
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Hello
Does anybody know of a setting or script that will allow Jaws 2023 to emulate the functionality of NVDA with the Speak Passwords addon.
At the moment all that Jaws will announce is star at my bank login page which is stressful for a clumsy totally blind typist like myself. I risk being locked out of my accounts with clumsy mis-typings as I cannot see the keyboard to check what is being typed.
For this reason I normally use NVDA for this purpose but this has stopped working on the bank login page and is unable to locate the required edit boxes. Jaws 2023 can, however, still detect the edit box but is otherwise unhelpful.
David griffith
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From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2023 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: CanJaws 2023 Speak Passwords
Narrator can do it. Press ALT + f8, then read the line with I think insert + up arrow.
At 07:03 AM 2/10/2023, you wrote:Hello
Does anybody know of a setting or script that will allow Jaws 2023 to emulate the functionality of NVDA with the Speak Passwords addon.
At the moment all that Jaws will announce is star at my bank login page which is stressful for a clumsy totally blind typist like myself. I risk being locked out of my accounts with clumsy mis-typings as I cannot see the keyboard to check what is being typed.
For this reason I normally use NVDA for this purpose but this has stopped working on the bank login page and is unable to locate the required edit boxes. Jaws 2023 can, however, still detect the edit box but is otherwise unhelpful.
David griffith
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Thanks for the suggestion.
Unfortunately the way the login works is to request randomly generated fields which have to be entered from pin and password sequences.
That is enter character 6 of your password and so on.
David Griffith
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Sent: 10 February 2023 13:23
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CanJaws 2023 Speak Passwords
A work around for this is to type your password in notepad and copy and
paste it into your password field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2023 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: CanJaws 2023 Speak Passwords
> Narrator can do it. Press ALT + f8, then read the line with I think
> insert + up arrow.
> At 07:03 AM 2/10/2023, you wrote:
>
>>Hello
>>
>>Does anybody know of a setting or script that will allow Jaws 2023 to
>>emulate the functionality of NVDA with the Speak Passwords addon.
>>
>>At the moment all that Jaws will announce is star at my bank login page
>>which is stressful for a clumsy totally blind typist like myself. I risk
>>being locked out of my accounts with clumsy mis-typings as I cannot see
>>the keyboard to check what is being typed.
>>
>>For this reason I normally use NVDA for this purpose but this has stopped
>>working on the bank login page and is unable to locate the required edit
>>boxes. Jaws 2023 can, however, still detect the edit box but is otherwise
>>unhelpful.
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>>David griffith
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>>Sent from <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>Mail for Windows
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne via groups.io
Sent: Friday, 10 February 2023 8:16
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CanJaws 2023 Speak Passwords
Narrator can do it. Press ALT + f8, then read the line with I think insert + up arrow.
At 07:03 AM 2/10/2023, you wrote:
Hello
Does anybody know of a setting or script that will allow Jaws 2023 to
emulate the functionality of NVDA with the Speak Passwords addon.
At the moment all that Jaws will announce is star at my bank login page
which is stressful for a clumsy totally blind typist like myself. I
risk being locked out of my accounts with clumsy mis-typings as I
cannot see the keyboard to check what is being typed.
For this reason I normally use NVDA for this purpose but this has
stopped working on the bank login page and is unable to locate the
required edit boxes. Jaws 2023 can, however, still detect the edit box
but is otherwise unhelpful.
David griffith
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Windows
Thanks
I did not know Narrator had this functionality. Can Narrator do this whilst Jaws is still running?
Normally I would just switch to using Narrator for the bank site but there seems something non-standard about the updated web page. As I say NVDA cannot see the required edit boxes now, but thankfully Jaws can at least get into the edit boxes.
I will experiment with Narrator anyway to see if it can access the login edit boxes.
Thanks again for the suggestion.
David Griffith
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Sent: 10 February 2023 13:16
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CanJaws 2023 Speak Passwords
Narrator can do it. Press ALT + f8, then read the line with I think
insert + up arrow.
At 07:03 AM 2/10/2023, you wrote:
>Hello
>
>Does anybody know of a setting or script that will allow Jaws 2023
>to emulate the functionality of NVDA with the Speak Passwords addon.
>
>At the moment all that Jaws will announce is star at my bank login
>page which is stressful for a clumsy totally blind typist like
>myself. I risk being locked out of my accounts with clumsy
>mis-typings as I cannot see the keyboard to check what is being typed.
>
>For this reason I normally use NVDA for this purpose but this has
>stopped working on the bank login page and is unable to locate the
>required edit boxes. Jaws 2023 can, however, still detect the edit
>box but is otherwise unhelpful.
>
>
>
>David griffith
>
>Sent from <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>Mail for Windows
>
>
>
Hi David,
When it is critical like that, I type it into notepad. I don’t add a space after it, nor a line under or above it, just the password. Then I can go over it character by character. If correct, I can do control a to select it all, control x to cut it and then control v to paste it into the password field. Good luck.
Karen
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2023 8:03 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: CanJaws 2023 Speak Passwords
Hello
Does anybody know of a setting or script that will allow Jaws 2023 to emulate the functionality of NVDA with the Speak Passwords addon.
At the moment all that Jaws will announce is star at my bank login page which is stressful for a clumsy totally blind typist like myself. I risk being locked out of my accounts with clumsy mis-typings as I cannot see the keyboard to check what is being typed.
For this reason I normally use NVDA for this purpose but this has stopped working on the bank login page and is unable to locate the required edit boxes. Jaws 2023 can, however, still detect the edit box but is otherwise unhelpful.
David griffith
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Thanks
My bank site does not support |Windows Hello and only supports finger print on iOS/Android apps which I want to avoid like the absolute plague for banking purposes. As soon as I install bank apps on my iPhone I am forced to start entering passcodes to access my phone for anything. Even turning on finger print recognition does not help as even after this the blasted phone still insists on me typing a passcode at least once a day for what it calls “extra security”. If I am clumsy on a keyboard I am an absolute disaster on a touch screen keyboard.
Hopefully NVDA will get some kind of update which will allow it to detect the edit boxes on this website if Jaws is not up to the job in providing this support.
David Griffith
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Sent: 10 February 2023 13:28
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CanJaws 2023 Speak Passwords
Perhaps it's time to move to Windows Hello (with fingerprint or face recognition), a Fido 2 security key, or some other option that doesn't involve the use of passwords and which is more secure.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne via groups.io
Sent: Friday, 10 February 2023 8:16
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CanJaws 2023 Speak Passwords
Narrator can do it. Press ALT + f8, then read the line with I think insert + up arrow.
At 07:03 AM 2/10/2023, you wrote:
>Hello
>
>Does anybody know of a setting or script that will allow Jaws 2023 to
>emulate the functionality of NVDA with the Speak Passwords addon.
>
>At the moment all that Jaws will announce is star at my bank login page
>which is stressful for a clumsy totally blind typist like myself. I
>risk being locked out of my accounts with clumsy mis-typings as I
>cannot see the keyboard to check what is being typed.
>
>For this reason I normally use NVDA for this purpose but this has
>stopped working on the bank login page and is unable to locate the
>required edit boxes. Jaws 2023 can, however, still detect the edit box
>but is otherwise unhelpful.
>
>
>
>David griffith
>
>Sent from <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>Mail for
>Windows
>
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I’ve run into a few password fields that won’t allow pasting.
Tony
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2023 7:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CanJaws 2023 Speak Passwords
Hi David,
When it is critical like that, I type it into notepad. I don’t add a space after it, nor a line under or above it, just the password. Then I can go over it character by character. If correct, I can do control a to select it all, control x to cut it and then control v to paste it into the password field. Good luck.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2023 8:03 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: CanJaws 2023 Speak Passwords
Hello
Does anybody know of a setting or script that will allow Jaws 2023 to emulate the functionality of NVDA with the Speak Passwords addon.
At the moment all that Jaws will announce is star at my bank login page which is stressful for a clumsy totally blind typist like myself. I risk being locked out of my accounts with clumsy mis-typings as I cannot see the keyboard to check what is being typed.
For this reason I normally use NVDA for this purpose but this has stopped working on the bank login page and is unable to locate the required edit boxes. Jaws 2023 can, however, still detect the edit box but is otherwise unhelpful.
David griffith
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I’ve had some luck contacting the bank. Some don’t understand the problem or don’t care about a few customers. Some have made changes and contacted me to test their new procedures. Most don’t move very fast.
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2023 7:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CanJaws 2023 Speak Passwords
Thanks for the suggestion.
Unfortunately the way the login works is to request randomly generated fields which have to be entered from pin and password sequences.
That is enter character 6 of your password and so on.
David Griffith
.
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From: Loy
Sent: 10 February 2023 13:23
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CanJaws 2023 Speak Passwords
A work around for this is to type your password in notepad and copy and
paste it into your password field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2023 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: CanJaws 2023 Speak Passwords
> Narrator can do it. Press ALT + f8, then read the line with I think
> insert + up arrow.
> At 07:03 AM 2/10/2023, you wrote:
>
>>Hello
>>
>>Does anybody know of a setting or script that will allow Jaws 2023 to
>>emulate the functionality of NVDA with the Speak Passwords addon.
>>
>>At the moment all that Jaws will announce is star at my bank login page
>>which is stressful for a clumsy totally blind typist like myself. I risk
>>being locked out of my accounts with clumsy mis-typings as I cannot see
>>the keyboard to check what is being typed.
>>
>>For this reason I normally use NVDA for this purpose but this has stopped
>>working on the bank login page and is unable to locate the required edit
>>boxes. Jaws 2023 can, however, still detect the edit box but is otherwise
>>unhelpful.
>>
>>
>>
>>David griffith
>>
>>Sent from <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>Mail for Windows
>>
>>
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Version 22H2 (OS Build 19045.2546)
I tried turning off JAWS, starting Narrator, typing in my password, and
using ALT plus F8, followed by INSERT plus Up Arrow, and Narrator still says
bullet, bullet, bullet.
Bill White
billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2023 5:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CanJaws 2023 Speak Passwords
Narrator can do it. Press ALT + f8, then read the line with I think
insert + up arrow.
At 07:03 AM 2/10/2023, you wrote:
Hello
Does anybody know of a setting or script that will allow Jaws 2023
to emulate the functionality of NVDA with the Speak Passwords addon.
At the moment all that Jaws will announce is star at my bank login
page which is stressful for a clumsy totally blind typist like
myself. I risk being locked out of my accounts with clumsy
mis-typings as I cannot see the keyboard to check what is being typed.
For this reason I normally use NVDA for this purpose but this has
stopped working on the bank login page and is unable to locate the
required edit boxes. Jaws 2023 can, however, still detect the edit
box but is otherwise unhelpful.
David griffith
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It's flakey.
I guess yu figured that out already.
Hi, Ann. I'm using Windows 10,
Version 22H2 (OS Build 19045.2546)
I tried turning off JAWS, starting Narrator, typing in my password, and
using ALT plus F8, followed by INSERT plus Up Arrow, and Narrator still says
bullet, bullet, bullet.
Bill White
billwhite92701@...
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2023 5:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CanJaws 2023 Speak Passwords
Narrator can do it. Press ALT + f8, then read the line with I think
insert + up arrow.
At 07:03 AM 2/10/2023, you wrote:Hello
Does anybody know of a setting or script that will allow Jaws 2023
to emulate the functionality of NVDA with the Speak Passwords addon.
At the moment all that Jaws will announce is star at my bank login
page which is stressful for a clumsy totally blind typist like
myself. I risk being locked out of my accounts with clumsy
mis-typings as I cannot see the keyboard to check what is being typed.
For this reason I normally use NVDA for this purpose but this has
stopped working on the bank login page and is unable to locate the
required edit boxes. Jaws 2023 can, however, still detect the edit
box but is otherwise unhelpful.
David griffith
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From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2023 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: CanJaws 2023 Speak Passwords
I tried it on my windows 10 machine, and it did work. I typed in the password, then pressed alt+f8 and then insert+up arrow. When I pressed alt+up arrow a second time, it didn't work.
It's flakey.
I guess yu figured that out already.
At 10:39 AM 2/10/2023, you wrote:Hi, Ann. I'm using Windows 10,
Version 22H2 (OS Build 19045.2546)
I tried turning off JAWS, starting Narrator, typing in my password, and
using ALT plus F8, followed by INSERT plus Up Arrow, and Narrator still says
bullet, bullet, bullet.
Bill White
billwhite92701@...
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2023 5:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CanJaws 2023 Speak Passwords
Narrator can do it. Press ALT + f8, then read the line with I think
insert + up arrow.
At 07:03 AM 2/10/2023, you wrote:Hello
Does anybody know of a setting or script that will allow Jaws 2023
to emulate the functionality of NVDA with the Speak Passwords addon.
At the moment all that Jaws will announce is star at my bank login
page which is stressful for a clumsy totally blind typist like
myself. I risk being locked out of my accounts with clumsy
mis-typings as I cannot see the keyboard to check what is being typed.
For this reason I normally use NVDA for this purpose but this has
stopped working on the bank login page and is unable to locate the
required edit boxes. Jaws 2023 can, however, still detect the edit
box but is otherwise unhelpful.
David griffith
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Hi David,
Is there not a Show Password button on your bank site?
All the best
Steve
Sent: 10 February 2023 13:03
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: CanJaws 2023 Speak Passwords
Hello
Does anybody know of a setting or script that will allow Jaws 2023 to emulate the functionality of NVDA with the Speak Passwords addon.
At the moment all that Jaws will announce is star at my bank login page which is stressful for a clumsy totally blind typist like myself. I risk being locked out of my accounts with clumsy mis-typings as I cannot see the keyboard to check what is being typed.
For this reason I normally use NVDA for this purpose but this has stopped working on the bank login page and is unable to locate the required edit boxes. Jaws 2023 can, however, still detect the edit box but is otherwise unhelpful.
David griffith
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This is a good idea if there is such a button. I’ve got several pages where I have to enter passwords that have eliminated the link or button that would show the password being typed.
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2023 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CanJaws 2023 Speak Passwords
Hi David,
Is there not a Show Password button on your bank site?
All the best
Steve
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 10 February 2023 13:03
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: CanJaws 2023 Speak Passwords
Hello
Does anybody know of a setting or script that will allow Jaws 2023 to emulate the functionality of NVDA with the Speak Passwords addon.
At the moment all that Jaws will announce is star at my bank login page which is stressful for a clumsy totally blind typist like myself. I risk being locked out of my accounts with clumsy mis-typings as I cannot see the keyboard to check what is being typed.
For this reason I normally use NVDA for this purpose but this has stopped working on the bank login page and is unable to locate the required edit boxes. Jaws 2023 can, however, still detect the edit box but is otherwise unhelpful.
David griffith
Sent from Mail for Windows