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moderated Can no longer close menus in Edge
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Adrian Spratt
Hi. This problem started in Edge just the other day. For reasons I haven't yet figured out, an Edge webpage will be taken over by the Edge menu. No matter what I do, I can't close it. I've tried the alt key, escape and even control-F4, which only succeeds in closing both the menus and the webpage.
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The menu may turn up after I've done an alt-tab to go into another window, but I'm not sure. Has anyone else experienced this? Any ideas?
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Friday, January 1, 2021 10:52 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Please help with WinWord error...is it JAWS? Shirley and all, A week or two ago, my sighted wife happened to be alongside me when I restarted my computer. It was taking a long time. She saw a message saying that Office 2016 was being updated. JAWS did not verbalize it. I set Office updates to automatic a long time ago. I was going to suggest making that change so that it happens during the restart process. However, that option isn't showing up anymore in my file menus. Here's the best I can offer, based on what I could figure out just now: While in Word, press alt-f. Arrow up to "More options." Press enter. Arrow up to Account. Start tabbing. The update button should appear. Press spacebar and tab through the options. I hope this gets you somewhere. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Friday, January 1, 2021 10:31 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Please help with WinWord error...is it JAWS? When that happened to me, it cured itself after a couple of hours. At 09:19 AM 1/1/2021, you wrote: Since it doesn't mention jaws, I would start with the obvious,
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John Covici
Does hitting f6 or shift-f6 help?
On Fri, 01 Jan 2021 11:10:41 -0500, Adrian Spratt wrote: -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una covici@ccs.covici.com
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Debby Hill
Hi Adrian,
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I am taking a wild guess, but have you tried Control + W to close it? Also, I am wondering if it is appearing because for some reason when you press alt + tab, the tab key isn't working. Just a couple of thoughts. Happy New Year! Take care and stay safe! Debby
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Friday, January 01, 2021 11:11 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Can no longer close menus in Edge Hi. This problem started in Edge just the other day. For reasons I haven't yet figured out, an Edge webpage will be taken over by the Edge menu. No matter what I do, I can't close it. I've tried the alt key, escape and even control-F4, which only succeeds in closing both the menus and the webpage. The menu may turn up after I've done an alt-tab to go into another window, but I'm not sure. Has anyone else experienced this? Any ideas? -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Friday, January 1, 2021 10:52 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Please help with WinWord error...is it JAWS? Shirley and all, A week or two ago, my sighted wife happened to be alongside me when I restarted my computer. It was taking a long time. She saw a message saying that Office 2016 was being updated. JAWS did not verbalize it. I set Office updates to automatic a long time ago. I was going to suggest making that change so that it happens during the restart process. However, that option isn't showing up anymore in my file menus. Here's the best I can offer, based on what I could figure out just now: While in Word, press alt-f. Arrow up to "More options." Press enter. Arrow up to Account. Start tabbing. The update button should appear. Press spacebar and tab through the options. I hope this gets you somewhere. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Friday, January 1, 2021 10:31 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Please help with WinWord error...is it JAWS? When that happened to me, it cured itself after a couple of hours. At 09:19 AM 1/1/2021, you wrote: Since it doesn't mention jaws, I would start with the obvious,
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Adrian Spratt
I should have thought of that, but no, it doesn’t solve it. I just tried.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici Sent: Friday, January 1, 2021 12:45 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Can no longer close menus in Edge Does hitting f6 or shift-f6 help? On Fri, 01 Jan 2021 11:10:41 -0500, Adrian Spratt wrote: -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una covici@ccs.covici.com
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Adrian Spratt
Thanks, Debby, but no to both.
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The alt keys does work with tab to move focus to another window. Also, I just tried closing the menu with the other alt key. Still no luck. Here's the current status. When I open the Edge menu, deliberately or otherwise, I can't close it. control-w, F6 and shift-F6, another press of alt, the escape key: nothing works. My only remedy is to close Edge and start over. I can't think even how to explain this. Can anyone?
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Debby Hill Sent: Friday, January 1, 2021 12:48 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Can no longer close menus in Edge Hi Adrian, I am taking a wild guess, but have you tried Control + W to close it? Also, I am wondering if it is appearing because for some reason when you press alt + tab, the tab key isn't working. Just a couple of thoughts. Happy New Year! Take care and stay safe! Debby -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Friday, January 01, 2021 11:11 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Can no longer close menus in Edge Hi. This problem started in Edge just the other day. For reasons I haven't yet figured out, an Edge webpage will be taken over by the Edge menu. No matter what I do, I can't close it. I've tried the alt key, escape and even control-F4, which only succeeds in closing both the menus and the webpage. The menu may turn up after I've done an alt-tab to go into another window, but I'm not sure. Has anyone else experienced this? Any ideas? -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Friday, January 1, 2021 10:52 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Please help with WinWord error...is it JAWS? Shirley and all, A week or two ago, my sighted wife happened to be alongside me when I restarted my computer. It was taking a long time. She saw a message saying that Office 2016 was being updated. JAWS did not verbalize it. I set Office updates to automatic a long time ago. I was going to suggest making that change so that it happens during the restart process. However, that option isn't showing up anymore in my file menus. Here's the best I can offer, based on what I could figure out just now: While in Word, press alt-f. Arrow up to "More options." Press enter. Arrow up to Account. Start tabbing. The update button should appear. Press spacebar and tab through the options. I hope this gets you somewhere. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Friday, January 1, 2021 10:31 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Please help with WinWord error...is it JAWS? When that happened to me, it cured itself after a couple of hours. At 09:19 AM 1/1/2021, you wrote: Since it doesn't mention jaws, I would start with the obvious,
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Adrian,
Consider: Using SFC (System File Checker) and DISM (Deployment Imaging Servicing and Management) to Repair Windows 8 & 10 These sorts of completely atypical issues in anything shipped with Windows strongly suggests an underlying corruption, somewhere, and who knows where. Those two utilities repair same, and harm nothing, so they're a good place to start. It may or may not work, but at least you'll have more data. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time. ~ André Gide
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Hi, I think what’s actually happening is that focus moves to the Edge menu control. If so, press F6 to move to the document window. Cheers, Joseph
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, January 1, 2021 10:09 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Can no longer close menus in Edge
Adrian, Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time. ~ André Gide
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Dan Longmore
Yes, at times, I have to tab around to get back to the page. Quite annoying
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On Jan 1, 2021, at 11:10 AM, Adrian Spratt <adrian@adrianspratt.com> wrote:
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Adrian Spratt
Thank you, Brian.
May I make a suggestion for your helpful form instructions? For some reason, I couldn’t get power shell to work for me. However, Google led me to the following method that enabled me to run my system as administrator, and in turn both programs:
Windows-r CMD followed immediately by control-shift-enter.
For better or worse, neither program detected any flaws.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, January 1, 2021 1:09 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Can no longer close menus in Edge
Adrian, Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time. ~ André Gide
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Adrian Spratt
Thanks, Joseph, but sadly, F6 isn’t the answer.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, January 1, 2021 1:22 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Can no longer close menus in Edge
Hi, I think what’s actually happening is that focus moves to the Edge menu control. If so, press F6 to move to the document window. Cheers, Joseph
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Adrian, Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time. ~ André Gide
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Adrian,
With regard to the instructions, I believe I said it doesn't matter whether PowerShell or Command Prompt was used to run the commands, but I'll double check. Given the current "state of the Windows 10 world" a number of people will have PowerShell invoked while others may have set things back to use Command Prompt. The next step I'd suggest: Doing a Windows 10 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows 10 ISO file This process takes longer, but like the SFC/DISM technique, is one of those "you've got nothing to lose" deals. There had been a short period where a repair install with the 20H2 ISO was not working because you could not choose to keep both files AND apps, but I downloaded it about 1.5 weeks ago and that version has the fix applied, so any copy obtained these days will, too. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time. ~ André Gide
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Mike B
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Brian,
What is the difference between Power Shell and
Command Prompt? Thanks much.
Stay safe and take care. Mike.
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From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2021 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: Can no longer close menus in Edge With regard to the instructions, I believe I said it doesn't matter whether PowerShell or Command Prompt was used to run the commands, but I'll double check. Given the current "state of the Windows 10 world" a number of people will have PowerShell invoked while others may have set things back to use Command Prompt. The next step I'd suggest: Doing a Windows 10 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows 10 ISO file This process takes longer, but like the SFC/DISM technique, is one of those "you've got nothing to lose" deals. There had been a short period where a repair install with the 20H2 ISO was not working because you could not choose to keep both files AND apps, but I downloaded it about 1.5 weeks ago and that version has the fix applied, so any copy obtained these days will, too. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build
19042 One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time. ~ André Gide
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On Fri, Jan 1, 2021 at 08:00 PM, Mike B wrote:
What is the difference between Power Shell and Command Prompt?- I am going to give the very short answer: Both are command line interfaces (CLIs) included with Windows. Command Prompt is the successor of what those of us old enough to be familiar with DOS knew as DOS. PowerShell is a much newer CLI with a very different command syntax, but where a number of "classic" commands are aliased so that they can be used in their familiar format with PowerShell. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time. ~ André Gide
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Mario
sometimes this happens to me in Firefox or Chrome. to get back to the page, I press alt+d and then shift+tab.
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From: Dan Longmore [mailto:danlongmore44@gmail.com] To: main@jfw.groups.io Date: Friday, January 1, 2021, 5:26 PM Subject: Can no longer close menus in Edge Yes, at times, I have to tab around to get back to the page. Quite annoying On Jan 1, 2021, at 11:10 AM, Adrian Spratt <adrian@adrianspratt.com> wrote: Hi. This problem started in Edge just the other day. For reasons I haven't yet figured out, an Edge webpage will be taken over by the Edge menu. No matter what I do, I can't close it. I've tried the alt key, escape and even control-F4, which only succeeds in closing both the menus and the webpage. The menu may turn up after I've done an alt-tab to go into another window, but I'm not sure. Has anyone else experienced this? Any ideas? -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Friday, January 1, 2021 10:52 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Please help with WinWord error...is it JAWS? Shirley and all, A week or two ago, my sighted wife happened to be alongside me when I restarted my computer. It was taking a long time. She saw a message saying that Office 2016 was being updated. JAWS did not verbalize it. I set Office updates to automatic a long time ago. I was going to suggest making that change so that it happens during the restart process. However, that option isn't showing up anymore in my file menus. Here's the best I can offer, based on what I could figure out just now: While in Word, press alt-f. Arrow up to "More options." Press enter. Arrow up to Account. Start tabbing. The update button should appear. Press spacebar and tab through the options. I hope this gets you somewhere. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Friday, January 1, 2021 10:31 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Please help with WinWord error...is it JAWS? When that happened to me, it cured itself after a couple of hours. At 09:19 AM 1/1/2021, you wrote: Since it doesn't mention jaws, I would start with the obvious, something has gone wrong with your ms-word. I'd suggest finding it in add/remove programs which you can search for by hitting the windows key and typing add followed by the slash key. Once there, find your microsoft office, and try to do a repair on it. On 1/1/2021 09:02, Shirley Tracy wrote:  Hi List,  This morning I opened a Word document and got the message “Office Updateâ€�, the same as I got one time last year (a couple weeks ago). The last time it happened, I rebooted and it went away. This time, it did not. I cannot open any Word documents—keep getting error messages telling me the program could not open properly. Is this something with JAWS or with Windows? How to fix?  Shirley  PS. I’m using Windows 10 and Word 2016. This didn’t happen before the latest update for JAWS and also for Windows. Not sure which is causing problem. Help!  .
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Mario
this may seem obvious, but may I add, using Power Shell is much more capable than Command Prompt.
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From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com] To: main@jfw.groups.io Date: Friday, January 1, 2021, 8:27 PM Subject: Can no longer close menus in Edge On Fri, Jan 1, 2021 at 08:00 PM, Mike B wrote: What is the difference between Power Shell and Command Prompt? - I am going to give the very short answer: Both are command line interfaces (CLIs) included with Windows. Command Prompt is the successor of what those of us old enough to be familiar with DOS knew as DOS. PowerShell is a much newer CLI with a very different command syntax, but where a number of "classic" commands are aliased so that they can be used in their familiar format with PowerShell. -- Brian -Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 *One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.* ~ André Gide
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Adrian Spratt
Thanks, Mario. This workaround does the trick. In Edge, I need to add to your two steps an additional two presses of F6. Meanwhile, I'll keep looking for a solution.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2021 11:30 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Can no longer close menus in Edge sometimes this happens to me in Firefox or Chrome. to get back to the page, I press alt+d and then shift+tab. -------- Original Message -------- From: Dan Longmore [mailto:danlongmore44@gmail.com] To: main@jfw.groups.io Date: Friday, January 1, 2021, 5:26 PM Subject: Can no longer close menus in Edge Yes, at times, I have to tab around to get back to the page. Quite annoying On Jan 1, 2021, at 11:10 AM, Adrian Spratt <adrian@adrianspratt.com> wrote: Hi. This problem started in Edge just the other day. For reasons I haven't yet figured out, an Edge webpage will be taken over by the Edge menu. No matter what I do, I can't close it. I've tried the alt key, escape and even control-F4, which only succeeds in closing both the menus and the webpage. The menu may turn up after I've done an alt-tab to go into another window, but I'm not sure. Has anyone else experienced this? Any ideas? -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Friday, January 1, 2021 10:52 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Please help with WinWord error...is it JAWS? Shirley and all, A week or two ago, my sighted wife happened to be alongside me when I restarted my computer. It was taking a long time. She saw a message saying that Office 2016 was being updated. JAWS did not verbalize it. I set Office updates to automatic a long time ago. I was going to suggest making that change so that it happens during the restart process. However, that option isn't showing up anymore in my file menus. Here's the best I can offer, based on what I could figure out just now: While in Word, press alt-f. Arrow up to "More options." Press enter. Arrow up to Account. Start tabbing. The update button should appear. Press spacebar and tab through the options. I hope this gets you somewhere. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Friday, January 1, 2021 10:31 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Please help with WinWord error...is it JAWS? When that happened to me, it cured itself after a couple of hours. At 09:19 AM 1/1/2021, you wrote: Since it doesn't mention jaws, I would start with the obvious, something has gone wrong with your ms-word. I'd suggest finding it in add/remove programs which you can search for by hitting the windows key and typing add followed by the slash key. Once there, find your microsoft office, and try to do a repair on it. On 1/1/2021 09:02, Shirley Tracy wrote:  Hi List,  This morning I opened a Word document and got the message “Office Updateâ€�, the same as I got one time last year (a couple weeks ago). The last time it happened, I rebooted and it went away. This time, it did not. I cannot open any Word documents—keep getting error messages telling me the program could not open properly. Is this something with JAWS or with Windows? How to fix?  Shirley  PS. I’m using Windows 10 and Word 2016. This didn’t happen before the latest update for JAWS and also for Windows. Not sure which is causing problem. Help!  .
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On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 11:57 AM, Mario wrote:
but may I add, using Power Shell is much more capable than Command Prompt.- That depends entirely on what it is you're trying to do. There are many things where I still strongly prefer Command Prompt to PowerShell because, to my mind, the syntax is cleaner and easier. Tool to task. But there are definitely a lot of things that PowerShell is much better for, but they're also not things that most typical users will ever need to do. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time. ~ André Gide
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