moderated Blocking the mouse buttons:


Angel
 

I understand, from going through my power settings, one may turn off the lap tops monitor.  I have considered looking into this.  But, should I require sighted assistance, for example, should I lose speech altogether, I should want the sighted person to be able to assist me to regain the use of the computer.  I have the power settings set to turn off the computer immediately upon its lid being closed.  That way, I can close the lid, and restart it again without speech, and have a sighted person assist me.




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K0LNY
 


Some laptops have a function key when used with the special FN key, will turn off the monitor.
I usually do a search on the make and model and the words turn off the screen
and get the answer.
Or some eyes may tell a reader, if they can figure out the hieroglyphics on the keys.
Glenn

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From: Angel
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2022 4:19 PM
Subject: Blocking the mouse buttons:

I understand, from going through my power settings, one may turn off the lap tops monitor.  I have considered looking into this.  But, should I require sighted assistance, for example, should I lose speech altogether, I should want the sighted person to be able to assist me to regain the use of the computer.  I have the power settings set to turn off the computer immediately upon its lid being closed.  That way, I can close the lid, and restart it again without speech, and have a sighted person assist me.




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Gene Warner
 

lol! Hieroglyphics is right! Some of those symbols look like they came from Egyptian times.

Gene...

On 8/7/2022 5:25 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:

Some laptops have a function key when used with the special FN key, will turn off the monitor.
I usually do a search on the make and model and the words turn off the screen
and get the answer.
Or some eyes may tell a reader, if they can figure out the hieroglyphics on the keys.
Glenn
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*Subject:* Blocking the mouse buttons:
I understand, from going through my power settings, one may turn off the lap tops monitor.  I have considered looking into this. But, should I require sighted assistance, for example, should I lose speech altogether, I should want the sighted person to be able to assist me to regain the use of the computer.  I have the power settings set to turn off the computer immediately upon its lid being closed.  That way, I can close the lid, and restart it again without speech, and have a sighted person assist me.
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David Diamond
 

Angel, you are going the long way round the bush.  You can turn JAWS on or off with a couple simple key strokes. Jaws, space and s.  will toggle jaws on or off. My blind tutor got us to turn off our computer monitors to make sure there was no cheating. The funny thing was, his sighted live in thought the monitor was broke because she could not see my monitor on.      

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Angel
Sent: August 7, 2022 2:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Blocking the mouse buttons:

 

I understand, from going through my power settings, one may turn off the lap tops monitor.  I have considered looking into this.  But, should I require sighted assistance, for example, should I lose speech altogether, I should want the sighted person to be able to assist me to regain the use of the computer.  I have the power settings set to turn off the computer immediately upon its lid being closed.  That way, I can close the lid, and restart it again without speech, and have a sighted person assist me.

 


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JM Casey
 

I don’t think Angel is concerned witht urnign JAWS on or off – I think they are concerend about sighted people seeing what they are doing when they don’t’ want them to.

 

On my old laptop I used to just tilt the screen way, way down..not enough to obstruct my hand movement on the keyboard, but someone would have to lift the lid into a more vertical position in order to see anything.

It’s not something I really worry about now. On my desktop I generally have the monitor off unless friends and I are watching films.

My suggestion if someone really doesn’t want their stuff to be seen is to just keep the monitor off or even unplugged, unless it’s needed. Of course hat’s a bit more complicated with a laptop. Newer JAWS and nVDA do have the option to obscure the screen. That is pretty good, but I would like a more direct, low-level kind of way of doing this, that’s not directly related to the screen reader, personally.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: August 7, 2022 05:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Blocking the mouse buttons:

 

Angel, you are going the long way round the bush.  You can turn JAWS on or off with a couple simple key strokes. Jaws, space and s.  will toggle jaws on or off. My blind tutor got us to turn off our computer monitors to make sure there was no cheating. The funny thing was, his sighted live in thought the monitor was broke because she could not see my monitor on.      

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Angel
Sent: August 7, 2022 2:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Blocking the mouse buttons:

 

I understand, from going through my power settings, one may turn off the lap tops monitor.  I have considered looking into this.  But, should I require sighted assistance, for example, should I lose speech altogether, I should want the sighted person to be able to assist me to regain the use of the computer.  I have the power settings set to turn off the computer immediately upon its lid being closed.  That way, I can close the lid, and restart it again without speech, and have a sighted person assist me.

 


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K0LNY
 


Sometimes new laptops come with a foam sleeve over the lid, folks could keep this on at all times and only slip it off if it needs to be seen.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2022 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: Blocking the mouse buttons:

I don’t think Angel is concerned witht urnign JAWS on or off – I think they are concerend about sighted people seeing what they are doing when they don’t’ want them to.

 

On my old laptop I used to just tilt the screen way, way down..not enough to obstruct my hand movement on the keyboard, but someone would have to lift the lid into a more vertical position in order to see anything.

It’s not something I really worry about now. On my desktop I generally have the monitor off unless friends and I are watching films.

My suggestion if someone really doesn’t want their stuff to be seen is to just keep the monitor off or even unplugged, unless it’s needed. Of course hat’s a bit more complicated with a laptop. Newer JAWS and nVDA do have the option to obscure the screen. That is pretty good, but I would like a more direct, low-level kind of way of doing this, that’s not directly related to the screen reader, personally.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: August 7, 2022 05:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Blocking the mouse buttons:

 

Angel, you are going the long way round the bush.  You can turn JAWS on or off with a couple simple key strokes. Jaws, space and s.  will toggle jaws on or off. My blind tutor got us to turn off our computer monitors to make sure there was no cheating. The funny thing was, his sighted live in thought the monitor was broke because she could not see my monitor on.      

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Angel
Sent: August 7, 2022 2:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Blocking the mouse buttons:

 

I understand, from going through my power settings, one may turn off the lap tops monitor.  I have considered looking into this.  But, should I require sighted assistance, for example, should I lose speech altogether, I should want the sighted person to be able to assist me to regain the use of the computer.  I have the power settings set to turn off the computer immediately upon its lid being closed.  That way, I can close the lid, and restart it again without speech, and have a sighted person assist me.

 


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Nermin
 

Hi,


the key combination Dave gave in his earlier message will not, in fact, turn off JAWS.

All it does is mute speech temporarily, unless certain key combinations are pressed, JAWS+T being one of them, which will anounce the window title.


To turn off JAWS, press JAWS+F4.

That will open up a confirmation dialogue, just press enter and JAWS is off.

Make sure you either know that JAWS is the only item on your desktop starting with j, use Narrator or assign a hotkey for JAWS so you can turn it on later.


Regards,

Nermin


Gene Warner
 

My laptop allows me to adjust the screen brightness using the blue Fn key and the up and down arrows. If I want to mask my screen from prying eyes, I just turn the brightness all the way down. When I'm at home, my computer is in its docking station and the screen is kept closed. To do this I set the "What to do when the lid is close" option to "do nothing".

Gene...

On 8/7/2022 5:40 PM, JM Casey wrote:
I don’t think Angel is concerned witht urnign JAWS on or off – I think they are concerend about sighted people seeing what they are doing when they don’t’ want them to.
On my old laptop I used to just tilt the screen way, way down..not enough to obstruct my hand movement on the keyboard, but someone would have to lift the lid into a more vertical position in order to see anything.
It’s not something I really worry about now. On my desktop I generally have the monitor off unless friends and I are watching films.
My suggestion if someone really doesn’t want their stuff to be seen is to just keep the monitor off or even unplugged, unless it’s needed. Of course hat’s a bit more complicated with a laptop. Newer JAWS and nVDA do have the option to obscure the screen. That is pretty good, but I would like a more direct, low-level kind of way of doing this, that’s not directly related to the screen reader, personally.
*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *David Diamond
*Sent:* August 7, 2022 05:34 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Blocking the mouse buttons:
Angel, you are going the long way round the bush.  You can turn JAWS on or off with a couple simple key strokes. Jaws, space and s.  will toggle jaws on or off. My blind tutor got us to turn off our computer monitors to make sure there was no cheating. The funny thing was, his sighted live in thought the monitor was broke because she could not see my monitor on.
*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Angel
*Sent:* August 7, 2022 2:19 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Blocking the mouse buttons:
I understand, from going through my power settings, one may turn off the lap tops monitor.  I have considered looking into this.  But, should I require sighted assistance, for example, should I lose speech altogether, I should want the sighted person to be able to assist me to regain the use of the computer.  I have the power settings set to turn off the computer immediately upon its lid being closed.  That way, I can close the lid, and restart it again without speech, and have a sighted person assist me.
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Gene Warner
 

Those foam things are rather fragile, if you or a friend can sew, you could make a cloth bag that can be slid over the screen when needed.

Gene...

On 8/7/2022 5:43 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:

Sometimes new laptops come with a foam sleeve over the lid, folks could keep this on at all times and only slip it off if it needs to be seen.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
*From:* JM Casey <mailto:jmcasey@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Sunday, August 07, 2022 4:40 PM
*Subject:* Re: Blocking the mouse buttons:
I don’t think Angel is concerned witht urnign JAWS on or off – I think they are concerend about sighted people seeing what they are doing when they don’t’ want them to.
On my old laptop I used to just tilt the screen way, way down..not enough to obstruct my hand movement on the keyboard, but someone would have to lift the lid into a more vertical position in order to see anything.
It’s not something I really worry about now. On my desktop I generally have the monitor off unless friends and I are watching films.
My suggestion if someone really doesn’t want their stuff to be seen is to just keep the monitor off or even unplugged, unless it’s needed. Of course hat’s a bit more complicated with a laptop. Newer JAWS and nVDA do have the option to obscure the screen. That is pretty good, but I would like a more direct, low-level kind of way of doing this, that’s not directly related to the screen reader, personally.
*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *David Diamond
*Sent:* August 7, 2022 05:34 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Blocking the mouse buttons:
Angel, you are going the long way round the bush.  You can turn JAWS on or off with a couple simple key strokes. Jaws, space and s.  will toggle jaws on or off. My blind tutor got us to turn off our computer monitors to make sure there was no cheating. The funny thing was, his sighted live in thought the monitor was broke because she could not see my monitor on.
*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Angel
*Sent:* August 7, 2022 2:19 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Blocking the mouse buttons:
I understand, from going through my power settings, one may turn off the lap tops monitor.  I have considered looking into this.  But, should I require sighted assistance, for example, should I lose speech altogether, I should want the sighted person to be able to assist me to regain the use of the computer.  I have the power settings set to turn off the computer immediately upon its lid being closed.  That way, I can close the lid, and restart it again without speech, and have a sighted person assist me.
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Few laptops allow you to turn off the screen when a docking station is not involved.  Note: Few, not none.

Most screen readers in recent (and by that I mean for the last several years) have supported a screen curtain feature, regardless of what they called it.  NVDA actually calls it Screen Curtain and it's in the Vision settings.  JAWS calls it screen shade, and according to a topic from May 2018 on this very group, that was entitled screen curtain, the key sequence to toggle screen shade on/off with JAWS is JAWS Key + Space, F11.
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David Diamond
 

True, you could turn off jaws. However, then you need a shortcut combo to turn it back on. As with most things, there are many roads to Rome.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nermin via groups.io
Sent: August 7, 2022 2:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Blocking the mouse buttons:

Hi,


the key combination Dave gave in his earlier message will not, in fact, turn off JAWS.

All it does is mute speech temporarily, unless certain key combinations are pressed, JAWS+T being one of them, which will anounce the window title.


To turn off JAWS, press JAWS+F4.

That will open up a confirmation dialogue, just press enter and JAWS is off.

Make sure you either know that JAWS is the only item on your desktop
starting with j, use Narrator or assign a hotkey for JAWS so you can
turn it on later.


Regards,

Nermin