Moderated annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
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Rick Mladek
Thanks, this worked. Now, what does this show in groups do?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 11:35 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Try this: Alt then arrow over to view. Arrow down, then tab to arrange by button and hit enter. Tab to show in groups and uncheck with space bar. This should kick you out and should be good. I am using Windows 10, JAWS 2019, and Outlook 13 I believe.
HTH,
John Doering Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063 Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Not working, are you sure this is correct?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
I’m back on my computer, press alt+v then a, v, w to turn off arrange by groups. To turn it back on do the same.
HTH,
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Any idea how to turn off that feature? Would like to see how the messages arrange with it off.
Thanks,
John Doering Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063 Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates. I'm not at my computer right now, but you can turn off that feature in outlook. If you want it left on, but want Jaws to ignore it, maybe Mike B, or someone else who knows Jaws settings better will chime in.
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On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 12:33 PM, Rick Mladek wrote:
Now, what does this show in groups do?Exactly what it's name implies, and in the case of the default settings, that grouping is by date. So, in your typical Outlook message listing it will start with the Today group (which is generally expanded along with several of the "more recent messages" groups that follow), then Yesterday, then each of the days of this current week, working back to Sunday. After that there will be groups for Last Week, Two Weeks Ago, Three Weeks Ago, Last Month, then, finally, the Older group. When you're arrowing up or down through your message list and, say, you know the message you're cruising to find came in Yesterday (and lets presume that Yesterday in this case is Tuesday) if you suddenly encounter the Monday group you know you've either missed it, or you're not remembering the correct day it came in. But even when grouping is on, it's there as a quick convenience for seeing groups of messages from specific time periods. The sort order, if kept in the default of newest to oldest, by date, will have all the conversations arranged that way or, if you turn conversation view off, all of the individual messages arranged that way. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them. ~ Joshua Liebman |
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It is very annoying. I hope there will be a way to toggle it off. StanB From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
John Doering
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:37 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
I have noticed the same thing. Will be tuning in to see if someone has a fix.
Regards,
John Doering
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
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On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Hello,
Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox: Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?
Al |
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On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 02:48 PM, Stan Bobbitt wrote:
I hope there will be a way to toggle it off.Answered twice and already confirmed as working once, in this very topic. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them. ~ Joshua Liebman |
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Alan Robbins <arobbins1057@...>
John,
This worked good. However, once I saved the changes by selecting ok, exited Outlook, then rebooted computer same issue occurred. Now the directions you suggested don’t work as tabbing does not show arrange by choice. Suggestions?
Al
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 11:35 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Try this: Alt then arrow over to view. Arrow down, then tab to arrange by button and hit enter. Tab to show in groups and uncheck with space bar. This should kick you out and should be good. I am using Windows 10, JAWS 2019, and Outlook 13 I believe.
HTH,
John Doering Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063 Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Not working, are you sure this is correct?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
I’m back on my computer, press alt+v then a, v, w to turn off arrange by groups. To turn it back on do the same.
HTH,
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Any idea how to turn off that feature? Would like to see how the messages arrange with it off.
Thanks,
John Doering Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063 Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates. I'm not at my computer right now, but you can turn off that feature in outlook. If you want it left on, but want Jaws to ignore it, maybe Mike B, or someone else who knows Jaws settings better will chime in.
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Excuse me
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 3:23 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 02:48 PM, Stan Bobbitt wrote:
Answered twice and already confirmed as working once, in this very topic. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them. ~ Joshua Liebman |
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On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 09:44 AM, Stan Bobbitt wrote:
Excuse meSorry, but it wasn't me who ignored content posted hours before, than fixed the issue, then asking for it again. That's on you. Read through the topics BEFORE replying. It's just common netiquette. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them. ~ Joshua Liebman |
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CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...>
How do I adjust Jaws so it doesn’t read all the punctuation – especially the apostraophies. Alison
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stan Bobbitt
Sent: 19 March 2020 13:45 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Excuse me
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 02:48 PM, Stan Bobbitt wrote:
Answered twice and already confirmed as working once, in this very topic. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them. ~ Joshua Liebman |
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Mike B.
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Hi Alison,
The punctuation level most people prefer is, Some,
and how to change the punctuation level is below.
Here are 3 ways of changing the punctuation
level setting:
#1. For an individual application using Jaws Quick Settings: 1. While in any application / program press, Insert + V, to open the Jaws quick settings. 2. In the search field type, punctuation, or just the 1st 4 letters will work as well and it'll take a second for the list to populate. You should hear something like, Punctuation 1 of 1 search results. Now down arrow and you should hear Jaws report, punctuation... with the ... meaning your current level setting. Now press the spacebar to toggle through your punctuation level options. They are None, Some, Most & All. 3. When you hear the level setting you want stop pressing the spacebar, tab to, Okay, and press enter to save and close. #2. To change the punctuation level for an individual application in the Settings Center: 1. Open the Settings Center by pressing, Insert + 6, on the number row. 2. Down arrow to, Punctuation closed, and right arrow to open. 3. Down arrow 2 times to, Punctuation level..., the ... is the current level you're set on. Now press the spacebar to toggle through your punctuation level options. They are None, Some, Most & All. 4. When you hear the level setting you want stop pressing the spacebar, tab to, Apply, press the spacebar, now tab to, Okay, and press enter to save and close. #3. To change the punctuation level for all applications in Settings Center default all applications: 1. Open the Settings Center by pressing, Insert + 6, on the number row, now press, control, shift + D, to open Settings Center default all applications. 2. Down arrow to, Punctuation closed, and right arrow to open. 3. Down arrow 2 times to, Punctuation level..., the ... is the current level you're set on. Now press the spacebar to toggle through your punctuation level options. They are None, Some, Most & All. 4. When you hear the level setting you want stop pressing the spacebar, tab to, Apply, press the spacebar, now tab to, Okay, and press enter to save and close. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers! I didn't stop shaking hands because of, COVID-19, I stopped because noone can buy toilet paper! But, good news! Due to the hording of toilet paper the LA Times is temporarily changing it's name to: The Daily Wipe! ----- Original Message -----
From: CJ &AA
MAY
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's
update How do I adjust Jaws so it doesn’t read all the punctuation – especially the apostraophies. Alison
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Stan Bobbitt
Excuse me
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Brian Vogel
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 02:48 PM, Stan Bobbitt wrote:
Answered twice and already confirmed as
working once, in this very topic. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them. ~ Joshua Liebman |
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Norma A. Boge
Brian, I am having the same problem as Stan. Went through the steps and got back the normal view. Then, and I’m not sure what happened, it reverted back to being arranged by date. I will go back and go through the steps again. And please don’t snark at me, I do not need it today or any other, for that matter. Norma
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 09:44 AM, Stan Bobbitt wrote:
Sorry, but it wasn't me who ignored content posted hours before, than fixed the issue, then asking for it again. That's on you. Read through the topics BEFORE replying. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them. ~ Joshua Liebman |
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On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 01:49 PM, Norma A. Boge wrote:
I will go back and go through the steps again.Which is exactly what you should do. I also don't need any lectures about snark, as what I said was not snark. I am sick and tired of the same question, which has already been answered in the very same topic, being asked again and again and again hours after the initial answers have been given. It's just plain rude to those who have taken the time and effort to provide said answers. I make no apology whatsoever for pointing this out. Basic netiquette dictates that you should read through a topic before posting to it. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them. ~ Joshua Liebman |
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Gezim Rexha
Hi all,
In addition to what was mentioned, while arrowing up and down in Outlook, JAWS says something like ‘if the message is not displayed correctly, click…’. Any solution appreciated.
Best regards, Gezim
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 6:50 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Brian, I am having the same problem as Stan. Went through the steps and got back the normal view. Then, and I’m not sure what happened, it reverted back to being arranged by date. I will go back and go through the steps again. And please don’t snark at me, I do not need it today or any other, for that matter. Norma
From:
main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 09:44 AM, Stan Bobbitt wrote:
Sorry, but it wasn't me who ignored content posted hours before, than fixed the issue, then asking for it again. That's on you. Read through the topics BEFORE replying. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them. ~ Joshua Liebman |
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David Griffith
The fix for this problem is to bring up the context menu – go to Junk and select the never block option. This adds the address to your safe senders list and should allow the download of images and prevent the annoying message.
David Griffith
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gezim Rexha
Sent: 19 March 2020 23:22 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Hi all,
In addition to what was mentioned, while arrowing up and down in Outlook, JAWS says something like ‘if the message is not displayed correctly, click…’. Any solution appreciated.
Best regards, Gezim
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Brian, I am having the same problem as Stan. Went through the steps and got back the normal view. Then, and I’m not sure what happened, it reverted back to being arranged by date. I will go back and go through the steps again. And please don’t snark at me, I do not need it today or any other, for that matter. Norma
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 09:44 AM, Stan Bobbitt wrote:
Sorry, but it wasn't me who ignored content posted hours before, than fixed the issue, then asking for it again. That's on you. Read through the topics BEFORE replying. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them. ~ Joshua Liebman |
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Gezim Rexha
Hi David,
Can that fix be applied in general, or must it be done for each address separately?
Best regards, Gezim
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 12:52 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
The fix for this problem is to bring up the context menu – go to Junk and select the never block option. This adds the address to your safe senders list and should allow the download of images and prevent the annoying message.
David Griffith
From:
main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Gezim Rexha
Hi all,
In addition to what was mentioned, while arrowing up and down in Outlook, JAWS says something like ‘if the message is not displayed correctly, click…’. Any solution appreciated.
Best regards, Gezim
From:
main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Brian, I am having the same problem as Stan. Went through the steps and got back the normal view. Then, and I’m not sure what happened, it reverted back to being arranged by date. I will go back and go through the steps again. And please don’t snark at me, I do not need it today or any other, for that matter. Norma
From:
main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 09:44 AM, Stan Bobbitt wrote:
Sorry, but it wasn't me who ignored content posted hours before, than fixed the issue, then asking for it again. That's on you. Read through the topics BEFORE replying. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them. ~ Joshua Liebman |
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David Griffith
I am afraid for each address separately though there is an option to never block from senders domain which could include all email addresses from a particular source such as @nhs.uk or something like that.
David Griffith
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From: Gezim Rexha
Sent: 20 March 2020 15:03 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Hi David,
Can that fix be applied in general, or must it be done for each address separately?
Best regards, Gezim
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
The fix for this problem is to bring up the context menu – go to Junk and select the never block option. This adds the address to your safe senders list and should allow the download of images and prevent the annoying message.
David Griffith
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gezim Rexha
Hi all,
In addition to what was mentioned, while arrowing up and down in Outlook, JAWS says something like ‘if the message is not displayed correctly, click…’. Any solution appreciated.
Best regards, Gezim
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Brian, I am having the same problem as Stan. Went through the steps and got back the normal view. Then, and I’m not sure what happened, it reverted back to being arranged by date. I will go back and go through the steps again. And please don’t snark at me, I do not need it today or any other, for that matter. Norma
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 09:44 AM, Stan Bobbitt wrote:
Sorry, but it wasn't me who ignored content posted hours before, than fixed the issue, then asking for it again. That's on you. Read through the topics BEFORE replying. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them. ~ Joshua Liebman
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