Moderated activating a search box on a web site
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nermin via groups.io
Sent: October 26, 2022 1:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: activating a search box on a web site
To route the JAWS cursor to the virtual cursor, you'd usually use the key to the right of the letter p while in laptop mode.
If you don't have a number keypad on your external keyboard, I don't know how you'd do that in desktop mode.
I am assuming that some of your keys will double as a numpad and they will be arranged so that they resemble a numpad, something like 1 2 3 on the letters j k and l, then u i o, etc. Then you will have a numlock key or some kind of modifier key.
Anyway, do you have the exact model and name of that keyboard.
By exact I mean exact, and not just ... It's a logitech keyboard.
Hello madison.
Yes, for sure those two are the most popular all round. Waterfox is a modified version fo Firefox. I don’t sue it much but recently Firefox got a lot slower and I don’t want to use Chromium browsers for everything. There’s also Brave and Vivaldi. Anyway, the point is, have multiple tools available.
If you look at the document I linked earlier, it will show you the desktop layout keystrokes and their laptop layout equivalents. All JAWS trainers are pretty much told why I’ts good to use/know how to use the laptop layout, and it makes sense – but a lot of people simply don’t use it. Some of it probably goes back to the days when other, older screen-readers all used the number pad for command input. So it made sense for JAWS (and later nVDA) to do the same. I don’t know how you learned to use jAWS in the first place – but it seems a bit unconventional. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, of course!
Sent: October 26, 2022 11:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: activating a search box on a web site
Okay, I’ve never heard of waterfox before but then again there are likely other browsers that I’ve never heard of as Edge, Google Chrome and Firefox seem to be the main ones.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: October 26, 2022 8:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: activating a search box on a web site
Hello madison.
It sounds like, even with the desktop layout running, you needt o at least learn some of the laptop layout keystrokes. They should still work as far as I know. I would spend some time witht eh jAWS manual, learning about the different cursors as well as some of the keyboard commands to take advantage of the screen-reader you have.
And it can’t hurt to install another browser. People are always saying on these lists that you should have as many browsers as you can, and, well, it’s actually pretty sound reasoning. Often what doesn’t work well with one combination will work better with another. I regularly have to switch between chrome, firefox, and now, waterfox too. But they all work more or less the same from a user perspective, so I don’t consider it a big deal.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: October 25, 2022 05:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: activating a search box on a web site
No; before you ask I don’t have any other browsers installed. I can’t even route the jaws cursor
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: October 25, 2022 4:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: activating a search box on a web site
Did you get ‘er done?
I forgot that you were using Edge, which I don’t really use, and went there with chrome. When I hit enter ont eh word “searcH” using that browser, the search box does open and there is an edit field to type into. No mouse clicks required. However mervyn described how you can do this using edge and the left mouse click.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: October 25, 2022 12:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: activating a search box on a web site
I use an external keyboard but it doesn’t have a numb pad but since my keyboard layout is set to desktop the insert key works. Here’s the link:
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: October 24, 2022 4:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: activating a search box on a web site
Hello madison.
I think if you want really concrete answers, you’ll have to tell us what site/page it is, so that someone can try it out.
The first thing I would say is, if enter or space won’t work, try a left mouse click. Th at is, use the simulated mouse. Hopefully your keyboard is working now. If you have a numpad this would be the / 9slash) key.
When that doesn’t even work, you could also try doing a real mouse click with the real mouse. Of course in both cases, you have to make sure your mouse pointer is actually in the right place. To do this, you might have to route the jaws cursor with insert-slash.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: October 24, 2022 05:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: activating a search box on a web site
Hi all,
Really hoping that someone can help me as I find this really strange.
I’m trying to search on a web site but even though there’s an option to search I can’t get an edit box to come up, I’ve tried pressing enter, the spacebar, bringing up the context menu and pressing e to find edit fields on the site but can’t get the box to come up. Any ideas as to how I can get the search box to come up on the site? Using the latest versions of Edge and the Jaws beata. Thanks
Madison
one thing you might want to do is switch JAWS to laptop layout.
You can then use laptop commands as well as desktop commands, if you have a numpad, and you can assign your insert key to be the JAWS key, CAPSLOCK or both.
First, under JAWS Options, General, choose laptop in the keyboard layout combo box.
Then start the settings centre with INSERT+6.
Open the default file with control+Shift+d.
Next, find the settings tree view with Tab, and locate "keyboard.
Open it, then open "general", then open "JAWS Insert Key".
You can assign either the extended insert, meaning the so-called sixpack, or the numpad Insert key, if you had one, or choose for both to act as JAWS keys.
Hope you'll be able to sort this out.
If you choose the laptop layout as I suggested previously, the key to route your cursor is the one to the right of the letter p.
Regards,
Nermin