moderated Accessing video subtitles with JAWS


James Benstead
 

Earlier today a friend of mine phoned me up to ask me about how JAWS interacts with the subtitles on videos: both standalone video files that play in apps like VLC, and videos that run in websites like YouTube.

I know that without very quick OCR, JAWS would always struggle with subtitles that are "burnt in" to a video. But what about subtitles that are included as a text file along with the video? Can JAWS access these, and somehow synchronise them with a video as it plays?

In speaking to my friend it struck me that this isn't something I've ever done, and that I don't know how to do it. My friend wants to know because he produces educational videos for a publishing company, and he wants to make them more accessible. It also occurs to me that having JAWS read out subtitles could be used to create a form of audio description.

Do any of you know how to do this?

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Soronel Haetir
 

I don't know a general answer but do know on youtube I've encountered
videos with accompanying transcription text where the text is
highlighted in time with the progressing video. I actually find this
particular set-up incredibly annoying to deal with because jaws reads
the changing selection as the voice on the recording advances.

On 2/24/21, James Benstead <james.benstead@gmail.com> wrote:
Earlier today a friend of mine phoned me up to ask me about how JAWS
interacts with the subtitles on videos: both standalone video files that
play in apps like VLC, and videos that run in websites like YouTube.

I know that without very quick OCR, JAWS would always struggle with
subtitles that are "burnt in" to a video. But what about subtitles that are
included as a text file along with the video? Can JAWS access these, and
somehow synchronise them with a video as it plays?

In speaking to my friend it struck me that this isn't something I've ever
done, and that I don't know how to do it. My friend wants to know because
he produces educational videos for a publishing company, and he wants to
make them more accessible. It also occurs to me that having JAWS read out
subtitles could be used to create a form of audio description.

Do any of you know how to do this?

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JM Casey
 

Yeah...there doesn't really seem anything else it could do, honestly.

In my opinion, the *only* really pleasant way to deal with subtitles is with a braille display.
I try to find .srt files on the internet, which are basically just text fiels with time codes.
It's not the best experience but, well, there are millions of films in languages I don't understand, so as a person who appreciates cinema, what else can you do? Lol

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: February 24, 2021 02:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessing video subtitles with JAWS

I don't know a general answer but do know on youtube I've encountered videos with accompanying transcription text where the text is highlighted in time with the progressing video. I actually find this particular set-up incredibly annoying to deal with because jaws reads the changing selection as the voice on the recording advances.

On 2/24/21, James Benstead <james.benstead@gmail.com> wrote:
Earlier today a friend of mine phoned me up to ask me about how JAWS
interacts with the subtitles on videos: both standalone video files
that play in apps like VLC, and videos that run in websites like YouTube.

I know that without very quick OCR, JAWS would always struggle with
subtitles that are "burnt in" to a video. But what about subtitles
that are included as a text file along with the video? Can JAWS access
these, and somehow synchronise them with a video as it plays?

In speaking to my friend it struck me that this isn't something I've
ever done, and that I don't know how to do it. My friend wants to know
because he produces educational videos for a publishing company, and
he wants to make them more accessible. It also occurs to me that
having JAWS read out subtitles could be used to create a form of audio description.

Do any of you know how to do this?

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paul lemm
 

Hi,

 

Although this doesn’t directly answer your question, I haven’t tried it but there is an experimental add on for NVDA which I believe can read OCR in real time from a video. Again, I haven’t tried this, it seems people are using it to read subtitles (some people seem to be having more success than others) but if you want to read more about the add on there is a topic on the audio games forum, I’ll put the link below. Just talking subtitles, I know  on my iPhone voice over will read subtitles if I’m watching something on the Netflix  app which has subtitles (I know as I accidently turned on subtitles by mistake the other day hahaha). anyway, link to that NVDA addon topic below:

 

https://forum.audiogames.net/topic/33489/lion-nvda-continuous-ocr-reader-works-for-subtitles-video-games/

 

Paul

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Benstead
Sent: 24 February 2021 19:04
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Subject: Accessing video subtitles with JAWS

 

Earlier today a friend of mine phoned me up to ask me about how JAWS interacts with the subtitles on videos: both standalone video files that play in apps like VLC, and videos that run in websites like YouTube.

 

I know that without very quick OCR, JAWS would always struggle with subtitles that are "burnt in" to a video. But what about subtitles that are included as a text file along with the video? Can JAWS access these, and somehow synchronise them with a video as it plays?

 

In speaking to my friend it struck me that this isn't something I've ever done, and that I don't know how to do it. My friend wants to know because he produces educational videos for a publishing company, and he wants to make them more accessible. It also occurs to me that having JAWS read out subtitles could be used to create a form of audio description.

 

Do any of you know how to do this?

 

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Glenn / Lenny
 


You could always use the iPhone, maybe Android to read it with the app Seeing AI.
You would need a clamp to hold the phone in front of the TV.
They do make bendable clamps for holding phones.
I would think it would need to be plugged in for power backup if watching an entire movie.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 1:04 PM
Subject: Accessing video subtitles with JAWS

Earlier today a friend of mine phoned me up to ask me about how JAWS interacts with the subtitles on videos: both standalone video files that play in apps like VLC, and videos that run in websites like YouTube.

I know that without very quick OCR, JAWS would always struggle with subtitles that are "burnt in" to a video. But what about subtitles that are included as a text file along with the video? Can JAWS access these, and somehow synchronise them with a video as it plays?

In speaking to my friend it struck me that this isn't something I've ever done, and that I don't know how to do it. My friend wants to know because he produces educational videos for a publishing company, and he wants to make them more accessible. It also occurs to me that having JAWS read out subtitles could be used to create a form of audio description.

Do any of you know how to do this?

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JM Casey
 

Maybe. Would be interesting to see it tried. I personally feel it wouldn’t’ be fast enough and result in a fairly unpleasant experience, but I’m not really certain.

Despite the lack of sync-up (I don’t know how or if that can be done), having a braille display with a text file loaded (srt) still seems the best choice to me, personally. Trouble is, you’d have trouble finding new content this way. I’m ok with it because I mostly watch old cult films. Lol

That said I did want to watch the series Dark in German because the english dubbing is horrendous to me (although interestingly, my german friend didn’t find it so).

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: February 24, 2021 02:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessing video subtitles with JAWS

 

You could always use the iPhone, maybe Android to read it with the app Seeing AI.

You would need a clamp to hold the phone in front of the TV.

They do make bendable clamps for holding phones.

I would think it would need to be plugged in for power backup if watching an entire movie.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 1:04 PM

Subject: Accessing video subtitles with JAWS

 

Earlier today a friend of mine phoned me up to ask me about how JAWS interacts with the subtitles on videos: both standalone video files that play in apps like VLC, and videos that run in websites like YouTube.

 

I know that without very quick OCR, JAWS would always struggle with subtitles that are "burnt in" to a video. But what about subtitles that are included as a text file along with the video? Can JAWS access these, and somehow synchronise them with a video as it plays?

 

In speaking to my friend it struck me that this isn't something I've ever done, and that I don't know how to do it. My friend wants to know because he produces educational videos for a publishing company, and he wants to make them more accessible. It also occurs to me that having JAWS read out subtitles could be used to create a form of audio description.

 

Do any of you know how to do this?

 

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michaelpbaity@...
 

In your conversation, you mentioned a bendable clamps for holding a phone in front of a computer. Where would I look to purchase such a device? Thanks, Michael Baity


Glenn / Lenny
 

I'll have to look back to see if I bought mine on Amazon or eBay.
If I can find them, I'll post a link.
I know I found it by doing a web search for bendable phone clamp.
Glenn

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Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: Accessing video subtitles with JAWS

In your conversation, you mentioned a bendable clamps for holding a phone in front of a computer. Where would I look to purchase such a device? Thanks, Michael Baity