moderated Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
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Glenn / Lenny
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Because it wants to make an image of the empty
space.
I would think Windows backup software would be
smarter than that.
I think backup software other than Windows won't do
that.
7Zip will only make a copy of the files, but you
need to be in Win PE to do that.
Glenn
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From: Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the
latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit Can some one tell me why the drive that you are backing up to has to be
bigger than the drive that you are backing up, even though the amount of data on
the drive to be backed up is far less than the space available on the drive that
you are backing up to? I have a 4 tb drive with less than 300 gb of data
on it that I want to back up to a 1 tb external drive, but Windows won’t let me
saying that the drive doesn't have enough space. I can just back up files,
but no system image.
Love in
Christ
Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 From: James Bentley
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the
latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit You can definitely boot IFW up off a 16GB thumb drive and then use Narrator to go get your back up image off of your USB external SSD or mechanical drive. You can also store your backup image on to a second drive in your PC if it has a second drive. You can also store images in separate particians on just one drive. However, using an external drive is the only safe place to store your backed up images. If you back up to a drive or partician that is connected to your PC, some malicious viruses can wipe out your back up images at the same time that it wipes out your primary drive.
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io
<main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard TurnerJames B
That helps greatly. Two last questions: How large does the bootable media need to be? Can I boot up off a thumb drive, and then restore from a SSD flash drive?
Or do I need to make the SSD flash drive bootable?
Richard "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
James Bentley
Richard said in part: James, I have not followed this entire thread, But, are you saying that with Image For Windows you can have Narrator talk you through the restore process without any sighted help?
*Yes it is definitely [possible for a blind person to do a restore by themselves with the right preparation.
The recovery/restore disk that you must make with IFW is bootable and it does have Narrator included so you will have speech.
So, the problem is just that there are probably only 2 ways for a blind person to boot up their PC using any bootable thumb drive or DVD disk.
You can get a sighted person to make a one-time change in your PC’s BIOS which will always cause your PC to first look for something other than your PC’s primary drive. This would always allow you to boot up off of any bootable media with no additional changes.
The second option, which is what I always do is to use F12, I think it is F 12 on my particular laptops to do a one-time change to the boot sequence. This must be done every time that you want to boot up off of an IFW bootable medium. And it doesn’t matter how messed up your drive is, your PC will still boot from the bootable recovery DVD or thumb drive. Which ever way that you boot up, Narrator can be launched with the standard Windows command, Control+Windows+Enter. You can then restore your damaged PC and exit out to a new restart of your PC with your ehntire drive appearing just like it was the day that you created the back up. If the backup is 5 years old, then you will be restoring to that same 5 year old backup.
I hope this helps,
James B From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
James Bentley
With Image for Windows Version 3… some of the check boxes in settings are checked by default and some are not. Routing the Jaws cursor to the PC will cause Jaws to anounce the status of check boxes. Note, in some places in the menus, you get a plus sign to let you know that something got added instead of a check box.
With the exceptions below, I recommend that you use the default settings if you are just trying to back up your Primary/C drive.
I always check the accessible check box. I also check the completion alarm so I know when the job is finished. There will be a few other check boxes and settings that are easy to understand and checking them is optional. But, I wouldn’t change any setting unless I was certain that I know exactly what I am doing.
I also check both the verification and the byte per byte verification. IFW will remember these settings if you answer yes to the prompt that ask if you want to save the settings.
IFW is an extremely complicated and powerful software suite and I never make additional changes and it has always worked for me. My backups are verified. And, around 6 times now, I have restored backups.
Once, I restored a backup that was created back when I was using Jaws Version 12 just to see if it would work. It did. It was strange to look at files and emails and an OS. that were over 5 years old.
Stay safe,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Dave Durber
René:
As you know, the check boxes on the items to which you are referring, , are not spoken by Jaws when you use the SPACE BAR, to either check or uncheck the items. By default, all the check boxes are unchecked. Once you have highlighted an item and tapped the SPACE BAR, to check it, route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor, then, use the Read Current Line command and JAWS will announce whether the item is checked or not.
HTH
Dave
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James Bentley
Greetings to Cihan Yazici and list,
I sure wish that I had the skill and ability to create a tutorial or pod cast to assist others with using Image for Windows. However, I do not.
IFW is extremely complicated for me. Everything from installation of the software to its use under many varying circumstances make creating a useful tutorial or podcast beyond my communication and current PC skills. I have tried to share as many tips as possible and Hopefully, there are others who can share additional information so that new users of IFW or other backup options can learn how to do image backups of their computers.
Regards,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cihan Yazici
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 2:06 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
Hello friends;
I have reviewed the program you suggested. I had difficulty using it because its interface and settings are so many. I wonder if our friends using this program can prepare a narration for us? I think it would be nice if they told us the important settings for us at least. love to all of you.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
With Image for Windows Version 3… some of the check boxes in settings are checked by default and some are not. Routing the Jaws cursor to the PC will cause Jaws to anounce the status of check boxes. Note, in some places in the menus, you get a plus sign to let you know that something got added instead of a check box.
With the exceptions below, I recommend that you use the default settings if you are just trying to back up your Primary/C drive.
I always check the accessible check box. I also check the completion alarm so I know when the job is finished. There will be a few other check boxes and settings that are easy to understand and checking them is optional. But, I wouldn’t change any setting unless I was certain that I know exactly what I am doing.
I also check both the verification and the byte per byte verification. IFW will remember these settings if you answer yes to the prompt that ask if you want to save the settings.
IFW is an extremely complicated and powerful software suite and I never make additional changes and it has always worked for me. My backups are verified. And, around 6 times now, I have restored backups.
Once, I restored a backup that was created back when I was using Jaws Version 12 just to see if it would work. It did. It was strange to look at files and emails and an OS. that were over 5 years old.
Stay safe,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
René:
As you know, the check boxes on the items to which you are referring, , are not spoken by Jaws when you use the SPACE BAR, to either check or uncheck the items. By default, all the check boxes are unchecked. Once you have highlighted an item and tapped the SPACE BAR, to check it, route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor, then, use the Read Current Line command and JAWS will announce whether the item is checked or not.
HTH
Dave
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On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 05:21 PM, Steve Matzura wrote:
I've never used Windows BackupAnd you shouldn't start, as the core component for same was deprecated several years back. It's not gone, yet, but once something is deprecated it's living on borrowed time. Microsoft has suggested using the third-party solution of your choosing since that time. Microsoft Announcement of Deprecated Features, including SIB [Backup and Restore (Windows 7)] -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Arkadiusz Świętnicki
I actually like IFW and I gained understanding of the software just some minutes after starting to use it, so I can try and record a solution.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 1:02 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
Greetings to Cihan Yazici and list,
I sure wish that I had the skill and ability to create a tutorial or pod cast to assist others with using Image for Windows. However, I do not.
IFW is extremely complicated for me. Everything from installation of the software to its use under many varying circumstances make creating a useful tutorial or podcast beyond my communication and current PC skills. I have tried to share as many tips as possible and Hopefully, there are others who can share additional information so that new users of IFW or other backup options can learn how to do image backups of their computers.
Regards,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cihan Yazici
Hello friends;
I have reviewed the program you suggested. I had difficulty using it because its interface and settings are so many. I wonder if our friends using this program can prepare a narration for us? I think it would be nice if they told us the important settings for us at least. love to all of you.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
With Image for Windows Version 3… some of the check boxes in settings are checked by default and some are not. Routing the Jaws cursor to the PC will cause Jaws to anounce the status of check boxes. Note, in some places in the menus, you get a plus sign to let you know that something got added instead of a check box.
With the exceptions below, I recommend that you use the default settings if you are just trying to back up your Primary/C drive.
I always check the accessible check box. I also check the completion alarm so I know when the job is finished. There will be a few other check boxes and settings that are easy to understand and checking them is optional. But, I wouldn’t change any setting unless I was certain that I know exactly what I am doing.
I also check both the verification and the byte per byte verification. IFW will remember these settings if you answer yes to the prompt that ask if you want to save the settings.
IFW is an extremely complicated and powerful software suite and I never make additional changes and it has always worked for me. My backups are verified. And, around 6 times now, I have restored backups.
Once, I restored a backup that was created back when I was using Jaws Version 12 just to see if it would work. It did. It was strange to look at files and emails and an OS. that were over 5 years old.
Stay safe,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
René:
As you know, the check boxes on the items to which you are referring, , are not spoken by Jaws when you use the SPACE BAR, to either check or uncheck the items. By default, all the check boxes are unchecked. Once you have highlighted an item and tapped the SPACE BAR, to check it, route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor, then, use the Read Current Line command and JAWS will announce whether the item is checked or not.
HTH
Dave
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James Bentley
That was quick. It took me forever to learn just enough to backup and recover my laptops.
As you become more acquainted with the complexities of IFW, maybe you will share what you have discovered.
Did you have any problems with the multitude of questions ask during installation?
Congratulations,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 4:40 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
I actually like IFW and I gained understanding of the software just some minutes after starting to use it, so I can try and record a solution.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Greetings to Cihan Yazici and list,
I sure wish that I had the skill and ability to create a tutorial or pod cast to assist others with using Image for Windows. However, I do not.
IFW is extremely complicated for me. Everything from installation of the software to its use under many varying circumstances make creating a useful tutorial or podcast beyond my communication and current PC skills. I have tried to share as many tips as possible and Hopefully, there are others who can share additional information so that new users of IFW or other backup options can learn how to do image backups of their computers.
Regards,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cihan Yazici
Hello friends;
I have reviewed the program you suggested. I had difficulty using it because its interface and settings are so many. I wonder if our friends using this program can prepare a narration for us? I think it would be nice if they told us the important settings for us at least. love to all of you.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
With Image for Windows Version 3… some of the check boxes in settings are checked by default and some are not. Routing the Jaws cursor to the PC will cause Jaws to anounce the status of check boxes. Note, in some places in the menus, you get a plus sign to let you know that something got added instead of a check box.
With the exceptions below, I recommend that you use the default settings if you are just trying to back up your Primary/C drive.
I always check the accessible check box. I also check the completion alarm so I know when the job is finished. There will be a few other check boxes and settings that are easy to understand and checking them is optional. But, I wouldn’t change any setting unless I was certain that I know exactly what I am doing.
I also check both the verification and the byte per byte verification. IFW will remember these settings if you answer yes to the prompt that ask if you want to save the settings.
IFW is an extremely complicated and powerful software suite and I never make additional changes and it has always worked for me. My backups are verified. And, around 6 times now, I have restored backups.
Once, I restored a backup that was created back when I was using Jaws Version 12 just to see if it would work. It did. It was strange to look at files and emails and an OS. that were over 5 years old.
Stay safe,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
René:
As you know, the check boxes on the items to which you are referring, , are not spoken by Jaws when you use the SPACE BAR, to either check or uncheck the items. By default, all the check boxes are unchecked. Once you have highlighted an item and tapped the SPACE BAR, to check it, route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor, then, use the Read Current Line command and JAWS will announce whether the item is checked or not.
HTH
Dave
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Arkadiusz Świętnicki
No, it was quick and painless. I have unchecked the components I know I wont need. If there’s a need for such a tutorial,. I am more than happy to help
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 1:09 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
That was quick. It took me forever to learn just enough to backup and recover my laptops.
As you become more acquainted with the complexities of IFW, maybe you will share what you have discovered.
Did you have any problems with the multitude of questions ask during installation?
Congratulations,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
I actually like IFW and I gained understanding of the software just some minutes after starting to use it, so I can try and record a solution.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Greetings to Cihan Yazici and list,
I sure wish that I had the skill and ability to create a tutorial or pod cast to assist others with using Image for Windows. However, I do not.
IFW is extremely complicated for me. Everything from installation of the software to its use under many varying circumstances make creating a useful tutorial or podcast beyond my communication and current PC skills. I have tried to share as many tips as possible and Hopefully, there are others who can share additional information so that new users of IFW or other backup options can learn how to do image backups of their computers.
Regards,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cihan Yazici
Hello friends;
I have reviewed the program you suggested. I had difficulty using it because its interface and settings are so many. I wonder if our friends using this program can prepare a narration for us? I think it would be nice if they told us the important settings for us at least. love to all of you.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
With Image for Windows Version 3… some of the check boxes in settings are checked by default and some are not. Routing the Jaws cursor to the PC will cause Jaws to anounce the status of check boxes. Note, in some places in the menus, you get a plus sign to let you know that something got added instead of a check box.
With the exceptions below, I recommend that you use the default settings if you are just trying to back up your Primary/C drive.
I always check the accessible check box. I also check the completion alarm so I know when the job is finished. There will be a few other check boxes and settings that are easy to understand and checking them is optional. But, I wouldn’t change any setting unless I was certain that I know exactly what I am doing.
I also check both the verification and the byte per byte verification. IFW will remember these settings if you answer yes to the prompt that ask if you want to save the settings.
IFW is an extremely complicated and powerful software suite and I never make additional changes and it has always worked for me. My backups are verified. And, around 6 times now, I have restored backups.
Once, I restored a backup that was created back when I was using Jaws Version 12 just to see if it would work. It did. It was strange to look at files and emails and an OS. that were over 5 years old.
Stay safe,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
René:
As you know, the check boxes on the items to which you are referring, , are not spoken by Jaws when you use the SPACE BAR, to either check or uncheck the items. By default, all the check boxes are unchecked. Once you have highlighted an item and tapped the SPACE BAR, to check it, route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor, then, use the Read Current Line command and JAWS will announce whether the item is checked or not.
HTH
Dave
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Richard Turner
I, for one, would appreciate a bsic tutorial from installing the software to doing a system backup, which I gather automatically includes Narrator for restoring, is that correct?
Thanks,
Richard "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Arkadiusz Swietnicki
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 4:11 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
No, it was quick and painless. I have unchecked the components I know I wont need. If there’s a need for such a tutorial,. I am more than happy to help
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of James Bentley
That was quick. It took me forever to learn just enough to backup and recover my laptops.
As you become more acquainted with the complexities of IFW, maybe you will share what you have discovered.
Did you have any problems with the multitude of questions ask during installation?
Congratulations,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
I actually like IFW and I gained understanding of the software just some minutes after starting to use it, so I can try and record a solution.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of James Bentley
Greetings to Cihan Yazici and list,
I sure wish that I had the skill and ability to create a tutorial or pod cast to assist others with using Image for Windows. However, I do not.
IFW is extremely complicated for me. Everything from installation of the software to its use under many varying circumstances make creating a useful tutorial or podcast beyond my communication and current PC skills. I have tried to share as many tips as possible and Hopefully, there are others who can share additional information so that new users of IFW or other backup options can learn how to do image backups of their computers.
Regards,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Cihan Yazici
Hello friends;
I have reviewed the program you suggested. I had difficulty using it because its interface and settings are so many. I wonder if our friends using this program can prepare a narration for us? I think it would be nice if they told us the important settings for us at least. love to all of you.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of James Bentley
With Image for Windows Version 3… some of the check boxes in settings are checked by default and some are not. Routing the Jaws cursor to the PC will cause Jaws to anounce the status of check boxes. Note, in some places in the menus, you get a plus sign to let you know that something got added instead of a check box.
With the exceptions below, I recommend that you use the default settings if you are just trying to back up your Primary/C drive.
I always check the accessible check box. I also check the completion alarm so I know when the job is finished. There will be a few other check boxes and settings that are easy to understand and checking them is optional. But, I wouldn’t change any setting unless I was certain that I know exactly what I am doing.
I also check both the verification and the byte per byte verification. IFW will remember these settings if you answer yes to the prompt that ask if you want to save the settings.
IFW is an extremely complicated and powerful software suite and I never make additional changes and it has always worked for me. My backups are verified. And, around 6 times now, I have restored backups.
Once, I restored a backup that was created back when I was using Jaws Version 12 just to see if it would work. It did. It was strange to look at files and emails and an OS. that were over 5 years old.
Stay safe,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Dave Durber
René:
As you know, the check boxes on the items to which you are referring, , are not spoken by Jaws when you use the SPACE BAR, to either check or uncheck the items. By default, all the check boxes are unchecked. Once you have highlighted an item and tapped the SPACE BAR, to check it, route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor, then, use the Read Current Line command and JAWS will announce whether the item is checked or not.
HTH
Dave
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James Bentley
Hello,
There is an option in the Image for Windows menus to create an IFW recovery boot disk.
Yes, this recovery disk includes Narrator which can be activated by typing Control+Windows+enter. And, this allows a blind person to do the restore of a previously created backup image.
I made this disk on a thumb drive a long time ago. I do not remember the steps and I remember it gave me a lot of trouble before I kind of accidently got it done. If the directions are not clear to you, maybe someone can offer assistance. But, if you buy IFW, you will have Narrator available on the recovery disk.
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 8:05 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
I, for one, would appreciate a bsic tutorial from installing the software to doing a system backup, which I gather automatically includes Narrator for restoring, is that correct?
Thanks,
Richard "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
No, it was quick and painless. I have unchecked the components I know I wont need. If there’s a need for such a tutorial,. I am more than happy to help
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
That was quick. It took me forever to learn just enough to backup and recover my laptops.
As you become more acquainted with the complexities of IFW, maybe you will share what you have discovered.
Did you have any problems with the multitude of questions ask during installation?
Congratulations,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
I actually like IFW and I gained understanding of the software just some minutes after starting to use it, so I can try and record a solution.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Greetings to Cihan Yazici and list,
I sure wish that I had the skill and ability to create a tutorial or pod cast to assist others with using Image for Windows. However, I do not.
IFW is extremely complicated for me. Everything from installation of the software to its use under many varying circumstances make creating a useful tutorial or podcast beyond my communication and current PC skills. I have tried to share as many tips as possible and Hopefully, there are others who can share additional information so that new users of IFW or other backup options can learn how to do image backups of their computers.
Regards,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cihan Yazici
Hello friends;
I have reviewed the program you suggested. I had difficulty using it because its interface and settings are so many. I wonder if our friends using this program can prepare a narration for us? I think it would be nice if they told us the important settings for us at least. love to all of you.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
With Image for Windows Version 3… some of the check boxes in settings are checked by default and some are not. Routing the Jaws cursor to the PC will cause Jaws to anounce the status of check boxes. Note, in some places in the menus, you get a plus sign to let you know that something got added instead of a check box.
With the exceptions below, I recommend that you use the default settings if you are just trying to back up your Primary/C drive.
I always check the accessible check box. I also check the completion alarm so I know when the job is finished. There will be a few other check boxes and settings that are easy to understand and checking them is optional. But, I wouldn’t change any setting unless I was certain that I know exactly what I am doing.
I also check both the verification and the byte per byte verification. IFW will remember these settings if you answer yes to the prompt that ask if you want to save the settings.
IFW is an extremely complicated and powerful software suite and I never make additional changes and it has always worked for me. My backups are verified. And, around 6 times now, I have restored backups.
Once, I restored a backup that was created back when I was using Jaws Version 12 just to see if it would work. It did. It was strange to look at files and emails and an OS. that were over 5 years old.
Stay safe,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
René:
As you know, the check boxes on the items to which you are referring, , are not spoken by Jaws when you use the SPACE BAR, to either check or uncheck the items. By default, all the check boxes are unchecked. Once you have highlighted an item and tapped the SPACE BAR, to check it, route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor, then, use the Read Current Line command and JAWS will announce whether the item is checked or not.
HTH
Dave
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Glenn / Lenny
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Hi James,
That recovery disk would be the same thing as Win
PE.
That is basically what microsoft provides in Win
PE.
But the talking one has NVDA instead of Narrator
and extra tools that are not Microsoft tools.
Glenn
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From: James
Bentley
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2020 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the
latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit Hello,
There is an option in the Image for Windows menus to create an IFW recovery boot disk.
Yes, this recovery disk includes Narrator which can be activated by typing Control+Windows+enter. And, this allows a blind person to do the restore of a previously created backup image.
I made this disk on a thumb drive a long time ago. I do not remember the steps and I remember it gave me a lot of trouble before I kind of accidently got it done. If the directions are not clear to you, maybe someone can offer assistance. But, if you buy IFW, you will have Narrator available on the recovery disk.
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
I, for one, would appreciate a bsic tutorial from installing the software to doing a system backup, which I gather automatically includes Narrator for restoring, is that correct?
Thanks,
Richard "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Arkadiusz Swietnicki
No, it was quick and painless. I have unchecked the components I know I wont need. If there’s a need for such a tutorial,. I am more than happy to help
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
James Bentley
That was quick. It took me forever to learn just enough to backup and recover my laptops.
As you become more acquainted with the complexities of IFW, maybe you will share what you have discovered.
Did you have any problems with the multitude of questions ask during installation?
Congratulations,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Arkadiusz Swietnicki
I actually like IFW and I gained understanding of the software just some minutes after starting to use it, so I can try and record a solution.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
James Bentley
Greetings to Cihan Yazici and list,
I sure wish that I had the skill and ability to create a tutorial or pod cast to assist others with using Image for Windows. However, I do not.
IFW is extremely complicated for me. Everything from installation of the software to its use under many varying circumstances make creating a useful tutorial or podcast beyond my communication and current PC skills. I have tried to share as many tips as possible and Hopefully, there are others who can share additional information so that new users of IFW or other backup options can learn how to do image backups of their computers.
Regards,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Cihan Yazici
Hello friends;
I have reviewed the program you suggested. I had difficulty using it because its interface and settings are so many. I wonder if our friends using this program can prepare a narration for us? I think it would be nice if they told us the important settings for us at least. love to all of you.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
James Bentley
With Image for Windows Version 3… some of the check boxes in settings are checked by default and some are not. Routing the Jaws cursor to the PC will cause Jaws to anounce the status of check boxes. Note, in some places in the menus, you get a plus sign to let you know that something got added instead of a check box.
With the exceptions below, I recommend that you use the default settings if you are just trying to back up your Primary/C drive.
I always check the accessible check box. I also check the completion alarm so I know when the job is finished. There will be a few other check boxes and settings that are easy to understand and checking them is optional. But, I wouldn’t change any setting unless I was certain that I know exactly what I am doing.
I also check both the verification and the byte per byte verification. IFW will remember these settings if you answer yes to the prompt that ask if you want to save the settings.
IFW is an extremely complicated and powerful software suite and I never make additional changes and it has always worked for me. My backups are verified. And, around 6 times now, I have restored backups.
Once, I restored a backup that was created back when I was using Jaws Version 12 just to see if it would work. It did. It was strange to look at files and emails and an OS. that were over 5 years old.
Stay safe,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Dave Durber
René:
As you know, the check boxes on the items to which you are referring, , are not spoken by Jaws when you use the SPACE BAR, to either check or uncheck the items. By default, all the check boxes are unchecked. Once you have highlighted an item and tapped the SPACE BAR, to check it, route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor, then, use the Read Current Line command and JAWS will announce whether the item is checked or not.
HTH
Dave
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Hi Glenn,
I just know that I was surprised to see that Microsoft and a third party software company were able to get together to provide a much needed feature to IFW. I wish other third party companies could do the same.
I never thought of the IFW recovery disk as a Windows PE because it is so stripped down but it sure works.
Apparently, it doesn’t have the necessary sound card drivers to work with my6 month old Acer Aspire but a $9, external USB sound card fixes that problem.
Cheers,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 1:00 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
Hi James, That recovery disk would be the same thing as Win PE. That is basically what microsoft provides in Win PE. But the talking one has NVDA instead of Narrator and extra tools that are not Microsoft tools. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: James Bentley Sent: Friday, May 08, 2020 12:55 PM Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
Hello,
There is an option in the Image for Windows menus to create an IFW recovery boot disk.
Yes, this recovery disk includes Narrator which can be activated by typing Control+Windows+enter. And, this allows a blind person to do the restore of a previously created backup image.
I made this disk on a thumb drive a long time ago. I do not remember the steps and I remember it gave me a lot of trouble before I kind of accidently got it done. If the directions are not clear to you, maybe someone can offer assistance. But, if you buy IFW, you will have Narrator available on the recovery disk.
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
I, for one, would appreciate a bsic tutorial from installing the software to doing a system backup, which I gather automatically includes Narrator for restoring, is that correct?
Thanks,
Richard "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
No, it was quick and painless. I have unchecked the components I know I wont need. If there’s a need for such a tutorial,. I am more than happy to help
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
That was quick. It took me forever to learn just enough to backup and recover my laptops.
As you become more acquainted with the complexities of IFW, maybe you will share what you have discovered.
Did you have any problems with the multitude of questions ask during installation?
Congratulations,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
I actually like IFW and I gained understanding of the software just some minutes after starting to use it, so I can try and record a solution.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Greetings to Cihan Yazici and list,
I sure wish that I had the skill and ability to create a tutorial or pod cast to assist others with using Image for Windows. However, I do not.
IFW is extremely complicated for me. Everything from installation of the software to its use under many varying circumstances make creating a useful tutorial or podcast beyond my communication and current PC skills. I have tried to share as many tips as possible and Hopefully, there are others who can share additional information so that new users of IFW or other backup options can learn how to do image backups of their computers.
Regards,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cihan Yazici
Hello friends;
I have reviewed the program you suggested. I had difficulty using it because its interface and settings are so many. I wonder if our friends using this program can prepare a narration for us? I think it would be nice if they told us the important settings for us at least. love to all of you.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
With Image for Windows Version 3… some of the check boxes in settings are checked by default and some are not. Routing the Jaws cursor to the PC will cause Jaws to anounce the status of check boxes. Note, in some places in the menus, you get a plus sign to let you know that something got added instead of a check box.
With the exceptions below, I recommend that you use the default settings if you are just trying to back up your Primary/C drive.
I always check the accessible check box. I also check the completion alarm so I know when the job is finished. There will be a few other check boxes and settings that are easy to understand and checking them is optional. But, I wouldn’t change any setting unless I was certain that I know exactly what I am doing.
I also check both the verification and the byte per byte verification. IFW will remember these settings if you answer yes to the prompt that ask if you want to save the settings.
IFW is an extremely complicated and powerful software suite and I never make additional changes and it has always worked for me. My backups are verified. And, around 6 times now, I have restored backups.
Once, I restored a backup that was created back when I was using Jaws Version 12 just to see if it would work. It did. It was strange to look at files and emails and an OS. that were over 5 years old.
Stay safe,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
René:
As you know, the check boxes on the items to which you are referring, , are not spoken by Jaws when you use the SPACE BAR, to either check or uncheck the items. By default, all the check boxes are unchecked. Once you have highlighted an item and tapped the SPACE BAR, to check it, route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor, then, use the Read Current Line command and JAWS will announce whether the item is checked or not.
HTH
Dave
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kevin meyers
Okay, IFW is talked about. When looking on the internet there are muultiple sites that provide the software. Well at least that is what I find. Does anyone have a suggestion of which site would be the best? I did try TeraByte and I didn’t like it.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
I, for one, would appreciate a bsic tutorial from installing the software to doing a system backup, which I gather automatically includes Narrator for restoring, is that correct?
Thanks,
Richard "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
No, it was quick and painless. I have unchecked the components I know I wont need. If there’s a need for such a tutorial,. I am more than happy to help
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
That was quick. It took me forever to learn just enough to backup and recover my laptops.
As you become more acquainted with the complexities of IFW, maybe you will share what you have discovered.
Did you have any problems with the multitude of questions ask during installation?
Congratulations,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
I actually like IFW and I gained understanding of the software just some minutes after starting to use it, so I can try and record a solution.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Greetings to Cihan Yazici and list,
I sure wish that I had the skill and ability to create a tutorial or pod cast to assist others with using Image for Windows. However, I do not.
IFW is extremely complicated for me. Everything from installation of the software to its use under many varying circumstances make creating a useful tutorial or podcast beyond my communication and current PC skills. I have tried to share as many tips as possible and Hopefully, there are others who can share additional information so that new users of IFW or other backup options can learn how to do image backups of their computers.
Regards,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cihan Yazici
Hello friends;
I have reviewed the program you suggested. I had difficulty using it because its interface and settings are so many. I wonder if our friends using this program can prepare a narration for us? I think it would be nice if they told us the important settings for us at least. love to all of you.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
With Image for Windows Version 3… some of the check boxes in settings are checked by default and some are not. Routing the Jaws cursor to the PC will cause Jaws to anounce the status of check boxes. Note, in some places in the menus, you get a plus sign to let you know that something got added instead of a check box.
With the exceptions below, I recommend that you use the default settings if you are just trying to back up your Primary/C drive.
I always check the accessible check box. I also check the completion alarm so I know when the job is finished. There will be a few other check boxes and settings that are easy to understand and checking them is optional. But, I wouldn’t change any setting unless I was certain that I know exactly what I am doing.
I also check both the verification and the byte per byte verification. IFW will remember these settings if you answer yes to the prompt that ask if you want to save the settings.
IFW is an extremely complicated and powerful software suite and I never make additional changes and it has always worked for me. My backups are verified. And, around 6 times now, I have restored backups.
Once, I restored a backup that was created back when I was using Jaws Version 12 just to see if it would work. It did. It was strange to look at files and emails and an OS. that were over 5 years old.
Stay safe,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
René:
As you know, the check boxes on the items to which you are referring, , are not spoken by Jaws when you use the SPACE BAR, to either check or uncheck the items. By default, all the check boxes are unchecked. Once you have highlighted an item and tapped the SPACE BAR, to check it, route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor, then, use the Read Current Line command and JAWS will announce whether the item is checked or not.
HTH
Dave
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Steve Matzura
Yes, and if you edit a certain file according to on-screen instructions when the recovery disk is created, you can set it to start Narrator for you when it boots. Great stuff!
On 5/8/2020 1:55 PM, James Bentley
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IFW is a Terabyte Unlimited product. A thirty-day free trial is offered. What about it did you not like, or would you change about it?
Narrator gets included when a certain initialization (.INI)file is edited before the recovery disk is created. It can be started manually I think, but this particular option will start it when the recovery disk is booted.
On 5/8/2020 6:44 PM, kevin meyers
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I installed it and realized I need to install the traditional option. Support at TeraByte told me I could uninstall and reinstall. I did that and when I started the software it asked me to purchase, cancel. I used the Jaws cursor and found continued was unavailable. I told support that and was told to click on continue. I knew that wouldn’t work. I tried it any and it didn’t work. Told support and they have not gotten back to me. There has only been 1 day since the download. Not 30 days. Now what?go to the point of creating the image
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 7:22 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
IFW is a Terabyte Unlimited product. A thirty-day free trial is offered. What about it did you not like, or would you change about it?
Narrator gets included when a certain initialization (.INI)file is edited before the recovery disk is created. It can be started manually I think, but this particular option will start it when the recovery disk is booted.
On 5/8/2020 6:44 PM, kevin meyers wrote:
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Hi,
You can download a 30-day trial version of Image for Windows (The TeraByte Unlimited :: TeraByte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite) at the link below.
To download, click on the link that says something like 30-day trial GUI. Note, GUI stands for graphical user interface.
https://www.terabyteunlimited.com/image-for-windows.htm
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 5:44 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
Okay, IFW is talked about. When looking on the internet there are muultiple sites that provide the software. Well at least that is what I find. Does anyone have a suggestion of which site would be the best? I did try TeraByte and I didn’t like it.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
I, for one, would appreciate a bsic tutorial from installing the software to doing a system backup, which I gather automatically includes Narrator for restoring, is that correct?
Thanks,
Richard "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
No, it was quick and painless. I have unchecked the components I know I wont need. If there’s a need for such a tutorial,. I am more than happy to help
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
That was quick. It took me forever to learn just enough to backup and recover my laptops.
As you become more acquainted with the complexities of IFW, maybe you will share what you have discovered.
Did you have any problems with the multitude of questions ask during installation?
Congratulations,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
I actually like IFW and I gained understanding of the software just some minutes after starting to use it, so I can try and record a solution.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Greetings to Cihan Yazici and list,
I sure wish that I had the skill and ability to create a tutorial or pod cast to assist others with using Image for Windows. However, I do not.
IFW is extremely complicated for me. Everything from installation of the software to its use under many varying circumstances make creating a useful tutorial or podcast beyond my communication and current PC skills. I have tried to share as many tips as possible and Hopefully, there are others who can share additional information so that new users of IFW or other backup options can learn how to do image backups of their computers.
Regards,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cihan Yazici
Hello friends;
I have reviewed the program you suggested. I had difficulty using it because its interface and settings are so many. I wonder if our friends using this program can prepare a narration for us? I think it would be nice if they told us the important settings for us at least. love to all of you.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
With Image for Windows Version 3… some of the check boxes in settings are checked by default and some are not. Routing the Jaws cursor to the PC will cause Jaws to anounce the status of check boxes. Note, in some places in the menus, you get a plus sign to let you know that something got added instead of a check box.
With the exceptions below, I recommend that you use the default settings if you are just trying to back up your Primary/C drive.
I always check the accessible check box. I also check the completion alarm so I know when the job is finished. There will be a few other check boxes and settings that are easy to understand and checking them is optional. But, I wouldn’t change any setting unless I was certain that I know exactly what I am doing.
I also check both the verification and the byte per byte verification. IFW will remember these settings if you answer yes to the prompt that ask if you want to save the settings.
IFW is an extremely complicated and powerful software suite and I never make additional changes and it has always worked for me. My backups are verified. And, around 6 times now, I have restored backups.
Once, I restored a backup that was created back when I was using Jaws Version 12 just to see if it would work. It did. It was strange to look at files and emails and an OS. that were over 5 years old.
Stay safe,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
René:
As you know, the check boxes on the items to which you are referring, , are not spoken by Jaws when you use the SPACE BAR, to either check or uncheck the items. By default, all the check boxes are unchecked. Once you have highlighted an item and tapped the SPACE BAR, to check it, route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor, then, use the Read Current Line command and JAWS will announce whether the item is checked or not.
HTH
Dave
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Steve Matzura
Actually you didn't have to uninstall. You could have changed the type of interface in the Settings dialog. Whoever told you to uninstall is obviously not familiar with the product they are being paid to support. Sad really.
On 5/8/2020 8:42 PM, kevin meyers
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I did do the 30 day trial. Ran into some problems.
Here is what happen. Now I can no longer try out the trial.
I installed it and realized I need to install the traditional option. Support at TeraByte told me I could uninstall and reinstall. I did that and when I started the software it asked me to purchase, cancel. I used the Jaws cursor and found continued was unavailable. I told support that and was told to click on continue. I knew that wouldn’t work. I tried it any and it didn’t work. Told support and they have not gotten back to me. There has only been 1 day since the download. Not 30 days. Now what?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 7:52 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
Hi,
You can download a 30-day trial version of Image for Windows (The TeraByte Unlimited :: TeraByte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite) at the link below.
To download, click on the link that says something like 30-day trial GUI. Note, GUI stands for graphical user interface.
https://www.terabyteunlimited.com/image-for-windows.htm
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Okay, IFW is talked about. When looking on the internet there are muultiple sites that provide the software. Well at least that is what I find. Does anyone have a suggestion of which site would be the best? I did try TeraByte and I didn’t like it.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
I, for one, would appreciate a bsic tutorial from installing the software to doing a system backup, which I gather automatically includes Narrator for restoring, is that correct?
Thanks,
Richard "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
No, it was quick and painless. I have unchecked the components I know I wont need. If there’s a need for such a tutorial,. I am more than happy to help
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
That was quick. It took me forever to learn just enough to backup and recover my laptops.
As you become more acquainted with the complexities of IFW, maybe you will share what you have discovered.
Did you have any problems with the multitude of questions ask during installation?
Congratulations,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
I actually like IFW and I gained understanding of the software just some minutes after starting to use it, so I can try and record a solution.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Greetings to Cihan Yazici and list,
I sure wish that I had the skill and ability to create a tutorial or pod cast to assist others with using Image for Windows. However, I do not.
IFW is extremely complicated for me. Everything from installation of the software to its use under many varying circumstances make creating a useful tutorial or podcast beyond my communication and current PC skills. I have tried to share as many tips as possible and Hopefully, there are others who can share additional information so that new users of IFW or other backup options can learn how to do image backups of their computers.
Regards,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cihan Yazici
Hello friends;
I have reviewed the program you suggested. I had difficulty using it because its interface and settings are so many. I wonder if our friends using this program can prepare a narration for us? I think it would be nice if they told us the important settings for us at least. love to all of you.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
With Image for Windows Version 3… some of the check boxes in settings are checked by default and some are not. Routing the Jaws cursor to the PC will cause Jaws to anounce the status of check boxes. Note, in some places in the menus, you get a plus sign to let you know that something got added instead of a check box.
With the exceptions below, I recommend that you use the default settings if you are just trying to back up your Primary/C drive.
I always check the accessible check box. I also check the completion alarm so I know when the job is finished. There will be a few other check boxes and settings that are easy to understand and checking them is optional. But, I wouldn’t change any setting unless I was certain that I know exactly what I am doing.
I also check both the verification and the byte per byte verification. IFW will remember these settings if you answer yes to the prompt that ask if you want to save the settings.
IFW is an extremely complicated and powerful software suite and I never make additional changes and it has always worked for me. My backups are verified. And, around 6 times now, I have restored backups.
Once, I restored a backup that was created back when I was using Jaws Version 12 just to see if it would work. It did. It was strange to look at files and emails and an OS. that were over 5 years old.
Stay safe,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
René:
As you know, the check boxes on the items to which you are referring, , are not spoken by Jaws when you use the SPACE BAR, to either check or uncheck the items. By default, all the check boxes are unchecked. Once you have highlighted an item and tapped the SPACE BAR, to check it, route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor, then, use the Read Current Line command and JAWS will announce whether the item is checked or not.
HTH
Dave
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Hi Kevin,
Sorry that you are having some problems installing Image for Windows. Since I do not know an answer, I suggest two options.
First, I would consider trying IFW tech support again. I think you received a wrong answer the last time that you tried tech support but you might get lucky with a different person.
Second, there still may be members on this list who can offer a possible solution to assist you in installing Image for Windows.
Hope you have the best of luck,
James B From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
I did do the 30 day trial. Ran into some problems.
Here is what happen. Now I can no longer try out the trial.
I installed it and realized I need to install the traditional option. Support at TeraByte told me I could uninstall and reinstall. I did that and when I started the software it asked me to purchase, cancel. I used the Jaws cursor and found continued was unavailable. I told support that and was told to click on continue. I knew that wouldn’t work. I tried it any and it didn’t work. Told support and they have not gotten back to me. There has only been 1 day since the download. Not 30 days. Now what?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 7:52 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
Hi,
You can download a 30-day trial version of Image for Windows (The TeraByte Unlimited :: TeraByte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite) at the link below.
To download, click on the link that says something like 30-day trial GUI. Note, GUI stands for graphical user interface.
https://www.terabyteunlimited.com/image-for-windows.htm
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Okay, IFW is talked about. When looking on the internet there are muultiple sites that provide the software. Well at least that is what I find. Does anyone have a suggestion of which site would be the best? I did try TeraByte and I didn’t like it.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
I, for one, would appreciate a bsic tutorial from installing the software to doing a system backup, which I gather automatically includes Narrator for restoring, is that correct?
Thanks,
Richard "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
No, it was quick and painless. I have unchecked the components I know I wont need. If there’s a need for such a tutorial,. I am more than happy to help
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
That was quick. It took me forever to learn just enough to backup and recover my laptops.
As you become more acquainted with the complexities of IFW, maybe you will share what you have discovered.
Did you have any problems with the multitude of questions ask during installation?
Congratulations,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
I actually like IFW and I gained understanding of the software just some minutes after starting to use it, so I can try and record a solution.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Greetings to Cihan Yazici and list,
I sure wish that I had the skill and ability to create a tutorial or pod cast to assist others with using Image for Windows. However, I do not.
IFW is extremely complicated for me. Everything from installation of the software to its use under many varying circumstances make creating a useful tutorial or podcast beyond my communication and current PC skills. I have tried to share as many tips as possible and Hopefully, there are others who can share additional information so that new users of IFW or other backup options can learn how to do image backups of their computers.
Regards,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cihan Yazici
Hello friends;
I have reviewed the program you suggested. I had difficulty using it because its interface and settings are so many. I wonder if our friends using this program can prepare a narration for us? I think it would be nice if they told us the important settings for us at least. love to all of you.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
With Image for Windows Version 3… some of the check boxes in settings are checked by default and some are not. Routing the Jaws cursor to the PC will cause Jaws to anounce the status of check boxes. Note, in some places in the menus, you get a plus sign to let you know that something got added instead of a check box.
With the exceptions below, I recommend that you use the default settings if you are just trying to back up your Primary/C drive.
I always check the accessible check box. I also check the completion alarm so I know when the job is finished. There will be a few other check boxes and settings that are easy to understand and checking them is optional. But, I wouldn’t change any setting unless I was certain that I know exactly what I am doing.
I also check both the verification and the byte per byte verification. IFW will remember these settings if you answer yes to the prompt that ask if you want to save the settings.
IFW is an extremely complicated and powerful software suite and I never make additional changes and it has always worked for me. My backups are verified. And, around 6 times now, I have restored backups.
Once, I restored a backup that was created back when I was using Jaws Version 12 just to see if it would work. It did. It was strange to look at files and emails and an OS. that were over 5 years old.
Stay safe,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
René:
As you know, the check boxes on the items to which you are referring, , are not spoken by Jaws when you use the SPACE BAR, to either check or uncheck the items. By default, all the check boxes are unchecked. Once you have highlighted an item and tapped the SPACE BAR, to check it, route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor, then, use the Read Current Line command and JAWS will announce whether the item is checked or not.
HTH
Dave
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kevin meyers
James,
I uninstalled it again and reinstalled it. This time it works. Must have donething wrong.
There are some options I have no idea what to do with. Did you install simple or traditional version? Then when I ran the IFP there were more things I didn’t know what to do with. There was two screens with global options. I just left these alone.
Thanks,
Kevin
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 9:21 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
Hi Kevin,
Sorry that you are having some problems installing Image for Windows. Since I do not know an answer, I suggest two options.
First, I would consider trying IFW tech support again. I think you received a wrong answer the last time that you tried tech support but you might get lucky with a different person.
Second, there still may be members on this list who can offer a possible solution to assist you in installing Image for Windows.
Hope you have the best of luck,
James B From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
I did do the 30 day trial. Ran into some problems.
Here is what happen. Now I can no longer try out the trial.
I installed it and realized I need to install the traditional option. Support at TeraByte told me I could uninstall and reinstall. I did that and when I started the software it asked me to purchase, cancel. I used the Jaws cursor and found continued was unavailable. I told support that and was told to click on continue. I knew that wouldn’t work. I tried it any and it didn’t work. Told support and they have not gotten back to me. There has only been 1 day since the download. Not 30 days. Now what?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Hi,
You can download a 30-day trial version of Image for Windows (The TeraByte Unlimited :: TeraByte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite) at the link below.
To download, click on the link that says something like 30-day trial GUI. Note, GUI stands for graphical user interface.
https://www.terabyteunlimited.com/image-for-windows.htm
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Okay, IFW is talked about. When looking on the internet there are muultiple sites that provide the software. Well at least that is what I find. Does anyone have a suggestion of which site would be the best? I did try TeraByte and I didn’t like it.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
I, for one, would appreciate a bsic tutorial from installing the software to doing a system backup, which I gather automatically includes Narrator for restoring, is that correct?
Thanks,
Richard "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
No, it was quick and painless. I have unchecked the components I know I wont need. If there’s a need for such a tutorial,. I am more than happy to help
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
That was quick. It took me forever to learn just enough to backup and recover my laptops.
As you become more acquainted with the complexities of IFW, maybe you will share what you have discovered.
Did you have any problems with the multitude of questions ask during installation?
Congratulations,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
I actually like IFW and I gained understanding of the software just some minutes after starting to use it, so I can try and record a solution.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Greetings to Cihan Yazici and list,
I sure wish that I had the skill and ability to create a tutorial or pod cast to assist others with using Image for Windows. However, I do not.
IFW is extremely complicated for me. Everything from installation of the software to its use under many varying circumstances make creating a useful tutorial or podcast beyond my communication and current PC skills. I have tried to share as many tips as possible and Hopefully, there are others who can share additional information so that new users of IFW or other backup options can learn how to do image backups of their computers.
Regards,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cihan Yazici
Hello friends;
I have reviewed the program you suggested. I had difficulty using it because its interface and settings are so many. I wonder if our friends using this program can prepare a narration for us? I think it would be nice if they told us the important settings for us at least. love to all of you.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
With Image for Windows Version 3… some of the check boxes in settings are checked by default and some are not. Routing the Jaws cursor to the PC will cause Jaws to anounce the status of check boxes. Note, in some places in the menus, you get a plus sign to let you know that something got added instead of a check box.
With the exceptions below, I recommend that you use the default settings if you are just trying to back up your Primary/C drive.
I always check the accessible check box. I also check the completion alarm so I know when the job is finished. There will be a few other check boxes and settings that are easy to understand and checking them is optional. But, I wouldn’t change any setting unless I was certain that I know exactly what I am doing.
I also check both the verification and the byte per byte verification. IFW will remember these settings if you answer yes to the prompt that ask if you want to save the settings.
IFW is an extremely complicated and powerful software suite and I never make additional changes and it has always worked for me. My backups are verified. And, around 6 times now, I have restored backups.
Once, I restored a backup that was created back when I was using Jaws Version 12 just to see if it would work. It did. It was strange to look at files and emails and an OS. that were over 5 years old.
Stay safe,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
René:
As you know, the check boxes on the items to which you are referring, , are not spoken by Jaws when you use the SPACE BAR, to either check or uncheck the items. By default, all the check boxes are unchecked. Once you have highlighted an item and tapped the SPACE BAR, to check it, route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor, then, use the Read Current Line command and JAWS will announce whether the item is checked or not.
HTH
Dave
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James Bentley
Hi Kevin,
I am pretty sure that I went with traditional. Its been a while. I do remember not changing any global options.
Yep, there were loads of questions that I did not know how to answer during the installation. I think I remember trying to use what appeared to just be the default settings.
I’m not sure about what you mean when you use the acronym IFP. But, in the Image for Windows settings, you can go with the default settings and be OK with just two or three changes.
I think Jaws will read more of the check boxes in settings if you check the accessible check box. I always check the completion alarm so I know when the entire process has finished. I always always, check the verification and the byte per byte verification check boxes. But, these show up as a plus sign to show you that these settings were added.
There is more than one place in the IFW menus where you get the option to create an IFW recovery boot disk. One place is in the Windows start menu within the Terabyte folder.
I’m Still wishing good luck for all who are developing an image backup game plan.
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
James,
I uninstalled it again and reinstalled it. This time it works. Must have donething wrong.
There are some options I have no idea what to do with. Did you install simple or traditional version? Then when I ran the IFP there were more things I didn’t know what to do with. There was two screens with global options. I just left these alone.
Thanks,
Kevin
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Hi Kevin,
Sorry that you are having some problems installing Image for Windows. Since I do not know an answer, I suggest two options.
First, I would consider trying IFW tech support again. I think you received a wrong answer the last time that you tried tech support but you might get lucky with a different person.
Second, there still may be members on this list who can offer a possible solution to assist you in installing Image for Windows.
Hope you have the best of luck,
James B From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
I did do the 30 day trial. Ran into some problems.
Here is what happen. Now I can no longer try out the trial.
I installed it and realized I need to install the traditional option. Support at TeraByte told me I could uninstall and reinstall. I did that and when I started the software it asked me to purchase, cancel. I used the Jaws cursor and found continued was unavailable. I told support that and was told to click on continue. I knew that wouldn’t work. I tried it any and it didn’t work. Told support and they have not gotten back to me. There has only been 1 day since the download. Not 30 days. Now what?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Hi,
You can download a 30-day trial version of Image for Windows (The TeraByte Unlimited :: TeraByte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite) at the link below.
To download, click on the link that says something like 30-day trial GUI. Note, GUI stands for graphical user interface.
https://www.terabyteunlimited.com/image-for-windows.htm
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Okay, IFW is talked about. When looking on the internet there are muultiple sites that provide the software. Well at least that is what I find. Does anyone have a suggestion of which site would be the best? I did try TeraByte and I didn’t like it.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
I, for one, would appreciate a bsic tutorial from installing the software to doing a system backup, which I gather automatically includes Narrator for restoring, is that correct?
Thanks,
Richard "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
No, it was quick and painless. I have unchecked the components I know I wont need. If there’s a need for such a tutorial,. I am more than happy to help
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
That was quick. It took me forever to learn just enough to backup and recover my laptops.
As you become more acquainted with the complexities of IFW, maybe you will share what you have discovered.
Did you have any problems with the multitude of questions ask during installation?
Congratulations,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
I actually like IFW and I gained understanding of the software just some minutes after starting to use it, so I can try and record a solution.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Greetings to Cihan Yazici and list,
I sure wish that I had the skill and ability to create a tutorial or pod cast to assist others with using Image for Windows. However, I do not.
IFW is extremely complicated for me. Everything from installation of the software to its use under many varying circumstances make creating a useful tutorial or podcast beyond my communication and current PC skills. I have tried to share as many tips as possible and Hopefully, there are others who can share additional information so that new users of IFW or other backup options can learn how to do image backups of their computers.
Regards,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cihan Yazici
Hello friends;
I have reviewed the program you suggested. I had difficulty using it because its interface and settings are so many. I wonder if our friends using this program can prepare a narration for us? I think it would be nice if they told us the important settings for us at least. love to all of you.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
With Image for Windows Version 3… some of the check boxes in settings are checked by default and some are not. Routing the Jaws cursor to the PC will cause Jaws to anounce the status of check boxes. Note, in some places in the menus, you get a plus sign to let you know that something got added instead of a check box.
With the exceptions below, I recommend that you use the default settings if you are just trying to back up your Primary/C drive.
I always check the accessible check box. I also check the completion alarm so I know when the job is finished. There will be a few other check boxes and settings that are easy to understand and checking them is optional. But, I wouldn’t change any setting unless I was certain that I know exactly what I am doing.
I also check both the verification and the byte per byte verification. IFW will remember these settings if you answer yes to the prompt that ask if you want to save the settings.
IFW is an extremely complicated and powerful software suite and I never make additional changes and it has always worked for me. My backups are verified. And, around 6 times now, I have restored backups.
Once, I restored a backup that was created back when I was using Jaws Version 12 just to see if it would work. It did. It was strange to look at files and emails and an OS. that were over 5 years old.
Stay safe,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
René:
As you know, the check boxes on the items to which you are referring, , are not spoken by Jaws when you use the SPACE BAR, to either check or uncheck the items. By default, all the check boxes are unchecked. Once you have highlighted an item and tapped the SPACE BAR, to check it, route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor, then, use the Read Current Line command and JAWS will announce whether the item is checked or not.
HTH
Dave
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